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Coming to a version near you in 7 months, hope you're all still alive by then. o/
I've been avoiding this thread, lord knows why, it's been a hysterical read. Only reason I can think of that someone would be against something like this is if they're selling their regular noct on the broker and don't want to lose that method of moneymaking. Original poster mentions doing AAHM, a dungeon with a pretty harsh DPS check; even the groups that glitch the final boss during his cage phase often clear with a scary small amount of time to spare since the dungeon is balanced around talents that our version doesn't have. So it makes sense that people would blue noct for that kind of content, and it makes sense for that level of content to drop at least 1 blue noct for every person who ran the dungeon. To me this seems intuitive and I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be a thing unless you just enjoy playing devil's advocate for no reason.

Like, legit, every time someone makes a thread suggesting something that would only help everyone, there're always people who come in and do this. Who even are you people, lmao. And telling them to get noct as their dungeon jackpot, I'm dying over here; no team would've rolled with that. I tried to just IMS TRNM during a jackpot weekend, not even caring about the reward I got, and dealt with so much drama and [filtered] from people who wanted to reroll because we got blue noct. If OP had made "blue noct" LFGs he would've been sitting alone for hours, you people are absolutely nuts.
OP's not even wrong. When you run into a zone and it's a bunch of grey blobs, and then one of them backstabs you before you can even see him? That's a [filtered] joke, dude. And the desync is out of control, my god. People who show up nowhere near you will be hitting you. You'll see people chaining their skills in front of another player but hitting them from behind. You'll leash people and see the skill hitting but the people just keep walking like nothing happened. Certain classes are completely imbalanced, where all they have to do is stagger you once or backstab stun you and they can keep you locked for ages with zero counterplay. Mass pvp favors zerg guilds that can just swarm smaller groups with zero strategy involved, so the same lousy guild wins CU every week because it's just a numbers game. God help you if you want to build your rank in FWC. If you queue with friends, the queue will literally never pop because of how party queues work now. If you queue alone, you'll get trapped with BRs who afk at the entrance, and if you try to sync queue you'll end up pitted against your friends. Whole teams getting wiped out at the first encounter and then swimming in the water for 15 minutes because their team's fodder and the other team's not. It's a genuine joke, a one sided farce over half of the time. My friend is always trying to duel me in town, and honestly the game's combat has never felt less fluid than when I'm trying to duel someone.

I've yet to see pvp done well in a korean mmo, but this game has some of the most underwhelming stuff I've ever seen. Nobody I know even enjoys fraywind canyon, everyone just seemed pissy and aggravated all weekend, but they put up with it for the jackpot event rewards. If you like it, kudos to you and keep doing what you're doing, but on some level you've gotta realize pvp in tera is jank as [filtered].
Considering how solo content and easy pug (i.e. done with random people without much communication necessary) dungeons give the most from a time:money standpoint, I don't think you'd be in a bad spot at all. You'd definitely get bored fast, though. The world is pretty empty, and the aforementioned content gets samey/old quick if it's all you're doing.
bekbekzor wrote: »
What's the point of complaining about a price of a cosmetic? If it is too expensive for you, just pass it up, find something cheaper that you like.
If you don't buy it, it's not gonna ruin your game-play. (At least is shouldn't) :) And there are many other great ways in life to spend your money :D

However, if almost no one buys these skins, they should/could lower the price of them. That's how economically it should work. xD
So if you just boycott this price and not purchase, you might get a better price.

Pretty much this. End of the day if someone finds that price acceptable, fine. I don't though, nor am I found of the item in general, so I won't be buying it. "Find something cheaper that you like" doesn't really work when EME removed most of their shop last week, but I get your main idea.
voidy wrote: »
I think we can say "great job, thanks for listening to feedback" on the one hand and still be like "50 dollars for a weapon skin is [filtered] insane and I'm under no obligation to purchase it just to 'show my support'" on the other.
I don't think anyone should buy to "show support." But I think people at least need to realize that this isn't an increase in price for rares or anything. It's a reflection that rares have always been really expensive in this market, and maybe some people just didn't realize it before because it was "hidden."

I'd like to believe you on this, but since neither of us have the lootbox rates there's really no way to say for sure how EME arrived at their price point. The Koreans are required to publish the rates for kTera, and surprise surprise they're really small, but for all I know those values could be changed for better (lol) or worse when they arrive in North America. :shrug:
Yeah it’s great there’s a buyout option. But it way over priced you can easily get a triple A game on steam for the same price.

A top selling game or a weapon skin hmmm.

Pretty much this. It's great to have a buyout option, but people in here are so happy to finally have their feedback heard on an issue that they've jumped at the first "option" they received instead of asking themselves if it's even a good deal. For example, TeraEU has buyout options on dyeable outfits for like 20 bucks, and has done it this way for some time. These publishers all answer to Bluehole, so it's not like Gameforge just has a more lenient boss than EME or something; our publisher simply chose, for whatever reason, to charge us over double what the other regions charge. Again -- good on EME for listening to feedback. Not trying to downplay that. I'll totally give them a thumbs up for that. But at the end of the day, what they did was introduce an exorbitant price payable through non-cancerous means instead of a loot box, and some of you guys are defending this like SeanDynamite just cured your grandmother's diabetes.

I think we can say "great job, thanks for listening to feedback" on the one hand and still be like "50 dollars for a weapon skin is [filtered] insane and I'm under no obligation to purchase it just to 'show my support'" on the other. If this is some subtle attempt to hold player feedback hostage ("better buy these expensive items or else we'll stop listening to you guys and introduce more lootboxes!"), it's pretty sad, especially considering other, more successful branches have had buyout options for ages, but of course the people here will defend it passionately for hours.

edit: dude above me beat me to the gameforge stuff, lmao
metagame wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
When I go alone, I see 1 stack of talents per boss, and I always get that stack.
[...]
Either way, it's better than a single hypnotic device from a boss that took nearly as long as a low tier dungeon just to kill.
so you think that one example from a mid/high tier dg is comparable to multiple runs of a low tier one? sorry you got "unlucky" in two different dungeons man, but your one experience in both runs do not give an accurate idea of what drops are like there.

higher tier dungeons grant more item exp. there are ways to make use of this no matter what your gear looks like.

I could give you dozens of examples, it happened to me today too. And yesterday. And the day before that. I play a lot, lol.
>higher tier dungeons grant more item exp.
Dude, nobody is talking about item exp in this thread, so I don't know why you're even bringing it up. Check this out, this is my weapon: unknown.png
I haven't cared about item exp in like 5 months, dude. My bottleneck are talents. Everyone I talk to, their bottleneck are talents. People want talents. High tier content that should drop talents, doesn't drop talents. Low tier garbage content that takes 5 minutes to complete, drops the thing that everyone needs. Legit, in this case you are not making any sense at all, I'm sorry. Yeah, they give more item exp. Nobody cares dude. Nobody's running 446s for item exp at this point, do you even play the game
To anyone who's been looking for talents, darics, or plates at high tier dungeons, worry not. It's been there all along. We just weren't looking hard enough.
metagame wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
Then I went and soloed Ravenous Gorge.
while it isn't a difficult feat, each dungeon was not designed with soloing it in mind

had you ran with 2 others, based on your other examples you would have gotten 2 wood scraps per boss and maybe a single gold talent. the drops from rg would also only total up to 1k tops

I like how this is the thing you decided to focus on, and you're not even correct. With joy of partying buffs, I would've actually had a chance at getting MORE stuff, not less. I just didn't feel like forming a group so I went alone and, admittedly, got pretty lucky at the final boss.

edit: I'm sleepy, but I do get what you're saying. Here's what I mean though. When I do RG in groups, I see several stacks of golden and silver talents. I pretty much always get one of those stacks. When I go alone, I see 1 stack of talents per boss, and I always get that stack. All that changes is the number of talents, which just depends on how lucky I am at the time. Either way, it's better than a single hypnotic device from a boss that took nearly as long as a low tier dungeon just to kill.

Just dropping in to agree with this. I did Ruinous Manor today. Each boss took forever because our group was carrying a random who kept dying. Know what I got from each boss? One (1) hypnotic device. I'd have gained more from just doing island of dawn.

Later, I did the new dungeon, Antaroth's Abyss. Whole thing took about 30 minutes. From that, I got one (1) pansophic ash. It actually dropped a mask, which was the first I'd seen EVER, since the patch dropped, but hey. At least it exists. Too bad somebody else got it since everyone in the group rolled on the thing.

Then I went and soloed Ravenous Gorge. I got 3 silver talents, 7 gold talents, and a bunch of trash I could convert into metas for more materials. I sold the talents and in total made more than I made from doing the "challenging" group content.

You guys should seriously tweak this; it's horrible and makes it barely worth doing harder stuff. Even when something good DOES drop, you make the team fight among each other for the reward which only creates jealousy since everyone needs the item, everyone worked for it, but only one person gets it. The situation with masks is particularly atrocious; you made masks the focal point of your event, even naming the event after the item, yet NOBODY I know has gotten one until today. Like, if the stats on a mask are random to begin with, you could at least boost the drop rate so we see them every once in a while, especially if you're gonna make it so we can only do these mask dungeons once a [filtered] day.

Tried to just be chill while writing this out but it's so annoying like sometimes, everything you guys do, I feel like I would do the opposite thing. Why would you release a new dungeon and then make an event centered around Kalivan's dreadnaught, the most boring mid tier content in the game? Why wouldn't you center it around the new dungeon? Why would you make masks the main focus of your event and then keep the drop rate ridiculously low and limit them only to the hardest dungeons in the game? Why, when the game is so incredibly dead, would you choose to wait another week before starting the recycled summer events instead of just releasing them now to get people back into the game? Like, nothing you guys do makes any sense to me and this thread is just another example of it.
If we're going to theoretically have any possible item available from these daily sales, could we also get every item viewable in the dressing room? Currently it only lists items present in the shop, which isn't a whole lot since a ton of it just got deleted. Even if we don't have the option to purchase these items in the store, I know a lot of players would welcome the ability to just see what some of this stuff looks like, especially on the off chance that it comes up for sale one day.
I just logged in today. No bots in velika.

Which server is this? Here on CH, the amount of bots DOUBLED, as if they're doing it just to spite the recent measures.
I experience that occasionally when cyclone resets. I'll go to cyclone again and she'll just hit once and stop. This happens VERY rarely, seen it maybe twice total the entire patch, so I'm chalking it up to bad lag.
Original post got deleted, what was OP suggesting?
Turns wrote: »
I play other MMOs what use XIGNCODE and I've never had this problem before

That's because other MMOs have publishers that whitelist those programs so people don't get this error as often. A big part of why players were concerned is because xigncode's usability is highly dependent on EME being on the ball about it. And, here we are.
Could you please post a screenshot of the error?
Can we get back on track, for [filtered]'s sake. Whether you agree with that Misty dude or not, he posted screens of xhunter1 causing someone's system to Blue Screen, which is the point of this thread: providing objective evidence that xigncode is garbage that creates more issues than it solves. Conveniently, no one's addressed that. Maybe the people accusing him and others of overblowing the problem should go apply for positions at wellbia; I mean, you might as well get paid if you're gonna sit around defending friggin' xigncode3 while pretending the neverending criticisms against it is all just "overblown" since it hasn't happened to you yet.

Honestly all of those risks are made worse by the fact that it doesn't even work as intended. Get that nasty stuff out of here fam. Legit no good argument to have it has been posted even once; it doesn't stop proxy users. It doesn't stop dps meters. The gold sellers are still at it. Meanwhile there's heaps of evidence showing that it CAN cause issues ranging from false positives to actual hardware failure and you're all like "just use it, you're being paranoid," it's like they're paying you for every post you make.
ChrisL wrote: »
was wondering where you would look too see if it was downloaded or installed?
Try this:
Hit the windows key + R to open the run window. Type 'regedit' without the quotes. The registry editor window will open. Be very careful in here.
On the left in this window, there'll be a few folders. Click where it says HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE.
That'll open a new set of folders. In there, click where it says SYSTEM.
That'll open another set of folders. In there, click CurrentControlSet.
From there, click Services.
In this folder, you're going to scroll to the bottom until you find a file marked xhunter1. That is xigncode's, and it's how you'll know if it's on your PC or not. When I uninstalled BDO, I had to manually delete this because it would not remove itself upon uninstall.

For a quicker reference of the file directory: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\xhunter1
https://steamcommunity.com/app/582660/discussions/0/1290691308571849109/#c1290691308571902026
^ source for this info, did it myself a while back. If it doesn't appear, then it's as counterpoint said and this version will not make itself known even here in the registry files, which is troublesome and quite unusual. I'd try it now but I'm not home.


Again, for the sake of the argument, if it's so true that 1) the software is so laughably trivial to bypass (and "everybody's doing it"), and 2) that it's completely ineffectual and (by design) can't possibly negatively impact anything "evil" any player might want to do anyway, then it raises the question: what are people so mad about?

And to me the answer seems fairly obvious. Because the company running this software is sketchy as heck and they tried to stealth-drop their nasty malware-tier "security" onto us with no notice. If, for argument's sake, I were someone who was bypassing xigncode, I would still be upset about it because:
1. It forces me to choose between quitting the game or playing the game using third party tools if I don't want sketchy garbage (that doesn't even do its job) installed on my pc.
2. Despite massive community outcry against it and solid proof that it doesn't even work, EME went ahead with it anyway and didn't even communicate it until someone found out, and only communicated again on the issue to close a thread about it.
3. Already we're getting people who can't log in, or who crash constantly. My guild's been dead this afternoon, on a content release date. It's never been dead on a content release date. Even if, for argument's sake, I weren't affected by xigncode, I wouldn't want to play in a community that either left the game when presented with the options seen in #1, or who couldn't log in at all because they were running minecraft in the background or something. I certainly wouldn't want to dungeon with people who can't react because they're getting performance issues whenever xigncode decides to scan something on top of this poorly optimized bloated mmo. And I wouldn't want to waste time explaining the bypass method to dozens of people every time I log in, but I'd sure be tempted if it appeared to be affecting performance, which it has. For argument's sake, of course.

From a practical standpoint, the hypothetical bypasser has to deal with a community affected by EME/BHS's poor management of xigncode, which is itself complete trash. I'm already pissed because even though my PC is a beast and runs decently no matter what, I've already had runs where I've wasted tons of consumables waiting around while we wiped and wiped and wiped and then waited while people relogged and relogged and relogged because their games were performing like shite after every boss, and all after this update. If you want to say that's a coincidence, fine, but come on. In addition to the practical issue of not being able to enjoy team play when most of the team is having performance issues now, the communication was extremely poor, the software itself is proven trash across multiple games, and players had 45 pages to show why they were upset and didn't want this garbage before a mod predictably locked the thread. If the question is nagging at you so much, I suppose you could always peruse through it again?
The only reason for the former wording is because, as I've said before, whether this can be effective depends entirely on how much of a focus they make on fighting this battle. There are ways of implementing this software that, at least, make it much more of a giant pain in the [filtered] for those programming bypasses, and in other games have driven some of the bypasses further underground to delay being caught and stopped (requiring more, slightly more tedious rework). But it really depends on the tenacity and investment of the developers to constantly fight. So far, clearly, BHS has not been that diligent in this matter on any front ...

In that case, I don't think ANY developer has been "diligent" in that matter; I've yet to see a game running XIGNCODE that didn't still have Chinese gold farm bots, hackers, cheaters, and dozens of exploits. In the world of anti-cheat software, xign is gutter-trash tier. The absolute worst. Given zero notice, NA players came up with multiple ways to bypass it on the same day it was announced. In korea it didn't even take them that long. Heck, the device used to cheat in this game is unaffected by it even if you don't bypass the software at all, that's how bad it is. In BDO, where it's also used, people bypass it every day and the issues are rampant. In BnS it was the same. How many times, and across how many games, does xign have to fail before we can just stop pretending there's a possibility for it to be good if the publisher/developer "tries harder"? And now players are going to waste time submitting videos and photographic evidence to prove what anyone who plays korean mmos has known for years: that xign is a total waste of a publisher's money.

Legit, xigncode doesn't even stop cheatengine from running. IT HAS CHEAT IN THE NAME M8 :lol:
What exactly was wrong about the last thread, so we can hopefully avoid it in this one? Because to me it just looks like people were finally describing their firsthand issues with xign and afterwards it got locked. I don't see why they can't just warn/erase bad posts instead of locking an entire contained thread, but whatever. It was getting too big anyway.

I don't want to implicate anyone but nearly everyone I've talked to about this on discord has said they're using a bypass. Meanwhile, the people I know who are using it either had issues logging in earlier today or have really bad performance issues which may or may not be attributed to the rootkit they downloaded that constantly scans all their stuff. I hope EME didn't waste too much money on this garbage.
DIONI wrote: »
@voidy maybe a better idea

Invite him to a party with urf on as priest (probably accept because enter spam)

Leash him into oblivion LOL

Late reply, but I wouldn't party a gold seller if I were you, might get banned by mistake.
voidy wrote: »
One guy pulled up a laundry list of files XIGNCODE examined that had absolutely nothing to do with his games, and even showed that it spent an inordinate amount of time going through his porn folder for some reason. That picture is in this thread. I'm not going to hunt it down for you.

The reason for this is pretty clear if you think about how all anti-virus, anti-malware, and similar scanners work. Programs that can interface with the game are not limited to being installed in the game folder. They can installed anywhere on the computer; yes, even in someone's "porn folder." (If you tell the scanner to exclude some folder, I wonder where people will put the offending software...) So just scanning your game folder alone serves absolutely no purpose at all if the intent of the scan is to look for software that allows you to inject/bypass/debug/etc. It has to look for signatures of blacklisted programs everywhere.

Whether the software is effective at finding and disabling this software is another issue, and clearly if it's implemented such that it can be easily bypassed, then it's pointless. (Games like PUBG, for instance, have played this cat-and-mouse game for a while now, which did have some effect at reducing the ease of cheating.) And this is also aside the question on whether EME should be installing vulnerability scanning software at all, which is the crux of the debate. But, clearly, if any vulnerability scanning software didn't look everywhere on your PC (including all the "hidden corners"), it would not be doing an effective scan.

The irony is, the scans are proven ineffective anyway! Everyone and their mom can bypass this garbage and in every game XIGN is used with, bots run rampant and cheaters are thankful that they don't have to deal with a more difficult anti-cheat device. Look at BnS, which has Chinese bot farmers everywhere. Look at BDO, which is currently dealing with a speedhack epidemic. Look at tera, where already a bypass has been found and we don't even have it yet. Like, man, it really seems like someone got the jump on EME with this (which is why they aren't responding much about it) and they're just stuck using the worst anti-cheat tool in the industry. It's sad, imo, but at least it can be bypassed super easily so it's moot for most users capable of googling "how to bypass xigncode".
MistyTera wrote: »
Ok I might be wrong? I'm so resourceful. :3 Though I'm not sure if this is all true? Yet someone can use it to sue?

https://reddit.com/r/DFO/comments/310c4v/abusing_the_usn_journal_why_xigncode_appears_to/

So now I might have a problem with it? I don't know?

If it scans another game and it thinks I'm hacking? That's stupid! Yet I don't think it does.

Here's the nice thing (sarcasm), XIGNCODE can create errors at times and prevent the game from starting. Even when nothing is wrong and you're a legit player that doesn't cheat. So really it's even more worthless!

Honestly all it does is check Tera files, not my system, if it really does? I feel your concern. Yet it's only detecting the game process files on the game itself and nothing else.

So I can see why some people are against it. Yet, people use Discord and don't believe me on it's stealing of data, which is ironic. :/ :p Sorry people. Many people play BnS and I don't see anyone suing them. If I get more spam emails, then I know something is up! However, there has been some reports from Discord users that got spam emails. Anyways, sorry off topic again, but for all conclusion of this XINGCODE, there is still a way to bypass. Since a bypass exists, EME/BHS fails as an attempt to solve the hacking in game.

Should of disguised it so that people don't know where to look for a BYPASS! There has to be a better solution, but there is none! People are still going to hack! So EME/BHS can just forget about the XIGNCODE.

For me at least, there are things I'd be worth taking that risk for, and there are things that I don't consider the risk at all. I manage a small community through Discord, and I've used the service for a long time. I know people who work there. I don't trust the company completely, because anyone who trusts a *company* deserves to be conned, but I consider it an acceptable risk since they've come across as competent and professional in all of my dealings with them. The thing about Wellbia/XIGNCODE is I can't say that at all. Their garbage would've probably been stealth-dropped on my PC if this thread hadn't called EME out on it in advance; their page seems devoid of any information except the liability section, and nearly every google search I run on their software brings back negative results. It stinks. Now, is Tera worth the risk? I don't think it is. Neither do a lot of other people. It's funny as hell, too, because a better game might've warranted less backlash, but tera's been slipping for nearly a year straight and this is the final nail in the coffin for a lot of people.

Now for another topic entirely:

I keep seeing the argument "well everyone else already takes your info and sells it, so what's one more thing? Who cares!" People like you (not you the person I'm quoting; but people who make this argument. I'm addressing a different group entirely now) are the reason we're even in this mess. Slowly letting one group after another have access to your info, until your privacy becomes a gaping crater that every company's been [filtered]-deep inside of. Then XIGNCODE comes along and wants a piece too, for a *game*, so you can play a dying MMO, and you're like "well, what's ooooooone more, haha." Every time there's a credit card leak, these're the first people to wonder how they were targeted, and the trail is endless, absolutely endless, because they're just ... OKAY with signing over their information to everyone, and then they act like we're the paranoid ones for finally putting our foot down and saying that giving up our information to play a poorly managed MMO just isn't worth the risk. It's gaslighting at its finest.

"But if this software were bad, people would've said something about it before!"
Are you people not reading the thread or something? It's full of links showing how intrusive and ineffective-at-stopping-hackers this stuff is. One guy pulled up a laundry list of files XIGNCODE examined that had absolutely nothing to do with his games, and even showed that it spent an inordinate amount of time going through his porn folder for some reason. That picture is in this thread. I'm not going to hunt it down for you. The only reason xign is kept around is because those mmo companies, much like bluehole studios, don't care about the opinions of their userbase. Saying "other bad companies do this, so it's okay" is probably the worst excuse of an argument I've heard all year and it's halfway into 2018 so that's saying something.

"You're overblowing things"
I don't think I am, since I've posted sources for every one of my claims. Yes, those people could be making [filtered] up. But you know what? I have ZERO reason to trust Wellbia/XIGNCODE. Absolutely none. There's no profit behind lying to slander an anti-cheat company, but there's plenty of profit in lying to sell your shoddy software. Combine that with the fact that it DOESN'T EVEN WORK for the one thing it's supposed to do, and it's well known that it doesn't work/is easily bypassed, and you have a situation where, to anyone with half a brain, it looks like EME is just selling people's information. I hope I'm wrong but they're not saying anything either, so what am I supposed to think.
metagame wrote: »
i'm not a fan of what they're pulling, but this is far worse.

I don't see how voicing one's disapproval in a dumb and ineffective way to a company that doesn't care is "far worse" than trying to stealth-install a rootkit on people's systems and only mentioning it when the info gets leaked 2 days before the patch. I mean, neither of those are good, but one is clearly worse than the other and it definitely isn't this thread condemning it.

But let's try and keep it in one place, yeah. Save the topic-spilling for when the main thread reaches 50 pages and some EME staff member closes it for "being off topic." :^)
ReChoa wrote: »
You can't say someone is lazy because they'd prefer to do dungeons with friends rather than farming solo trash all day long, dungeons don't give nearly enough talents to make up for how much you need to enchant and upgrade gear, and especially alts, I've got about 1.3mil gold in diamonds from the last month just sitting in my bank, I probably farmed about 10k golden talents in the past month, I have 2 stormcry alts and 3 frostmetal alts and I basically started with almost nothing back in december because I switched servers, I farm events when I get the chance, but I absolutely hate grinding for it this way, it's not a good way of making people gear up, after just grinding talents, gold AND exp for the first 2 characters i wanted to not do it anymore, this system is absolutely trash, without double vanguards (which isn't permanent anymore), you get 112 gold talents per 16 vanguards, which means without double vanguards you need to do about 7-10 characters worth of vanguards just to get to frostmetal from twist, which is basically hours spent not farming more exp from dungeons or playing with friends in a MULTIPLAYER game because of how much worse it is to farm iod with someone else, so on top of being forced to grind for golden talents for about a day to two weeks depending on how many alts you have, you're gonna have to grind for exp and gold (assuming you're not gonna bruteforce enchantments, but if you do, expect to use about 2x as many golden talents and ~70k-100k gold) because low tier iods don't give a lot of exp and even gold, and so for anyone with 10+ alts, a lot of spare time and no friends to play with, sure it'd seem like a fine system, but for anyone who's not like that, it's not gonna be very appealing to gear up multiple characters to just frost because of how long it would take, and that's not even considering how many talents you need to get through frost for a 446 ilvl, and through stormcry for a 453 ilvl which allows you to do 5 more dungeons rather than the same boring dungeons that you can power through in under 10 minutes and facetank 90% of the mechanics in.

ur just lazy
stop trying to organize hard content runs, that's for lazy ppl
go spam low tier iods alone instead
welcome 2 the rice field :trollface:

(but really though this post is dead on accurate and if you disagree you probably don't even enchant and just sell talents for gold)
Equitas wrote: »

unneccessarily lengthy trashpost.

It's cool, I don't bother reading the garbage you post either.
Vasy86le wrote: »

I love that thread, because the site they point us to (https://www.wellbia.com/home/en/) is absolutely terrible. I and a few other guildmates went there to check them out and we couldn't stop finding problems with it. Here are just a few issues the site has, and keep in mind as you read this that we're being asked to trust these people with our private information:

1. The site is a mess if you look at the source pages for just about every section. On the main page there's so much hidden garbage dumped in there and then kept unseen for god knows what reason. The main page has a ted talk video embedded in there but never actually shown for some reason, god knows why. These people want us to believe that their program will work as intended, but their really simple website is the equivalent of a dumping ground for old links and other unnecessary [filtered].
2. On the About page, there's supposed to be a map showing where they're located but it doesn't even show up so there's just a massive gaping space between CONTACT and the actual contact information; that this was never repaired shows a complete disregard for quality control or testing.
3. Also on their About page, commented out are links to some guy's twitter/github page. Both pages are still active and in use, meaning they didn't want people to see it (which is why they made it so you couldn't on the main page) but they were too dumb to just remove it from the source completely, showing either an inability to get rid of useless fluff, or a disregard for their own personal information, let alone the personal information of others.
4. Clicking the FAQ page from the English page sends you straight to the Korean version of the FAQ, showing once again that these people don't care about the end user experience and put out shoddy work on something that's supposed to sell you on their product, so god knows what the actual product looks like.
5. On their end users agreement page, under Limitations of Company Responsibility, Wellbia has this to say:
Wellbia wrote:
IGNCODE3 is a software provided for free to users. Users judge and determine to use services served by software developers and providers, and therefore the company does not have responsibility for results and damages which may have occurred from XIGNCODE3 installation and use.

In other words, users decided whether or not to install XIGNCODE, and anything bad that happens to them because of it is the user's fault and not Wellbia's. This claim is absolutely ridiculous; users were given almost no notice about XIGNCODE becoming a thing in tera and probably wouldn't have gotten a notice at all if this thread hadn't been made in the first place. The actual announcement was a quiet forum post that was locked, because of course it was. The installation will be bundled in with Thursday's patch, and the only reason an announcement was made was because y'all got caught. The second half is equally troubling, because I've read about more than one case where people's SSDs experienced issues after playing games with XIGNCODE and now Wellbia's trying really hard to cover their butts before the service is even implemented, so it'll take more than a few white knights to convince me that it's all legit.

Anyway, the site's a mess and betrays shoddy work, zero attention to detail, apathy towards the user's experience, and a total disregard to privacy. I am only bringing this up because in EME's news post they kept INSISTING I go there for more information, which is fitting since it told me all I need to know about the company involved. The question lingers harder still: If these people show this level of callous disregard on something as basic as a website, with some elements even betraying employee information on their own front page, why on earth should we trust them with our private information?
I love the whole "only people complaining are proxy users" claim that keeps getting floated. If anything, they're gonna be the first ones bypassing this garbage.
Melyodis wrote: »
Christin wrote: »
The main difference here between Steam and this other company is that Valve is US based. Plus, they are far more professional than some company who's site looks like it was just created.

What matters the most is what country the information goes to. Since the information goes to Wellbia (in Korea) it is governed by Korean law. They can pretty much do with it all they want. It wouldn't be so bad if Wellbia didn't have direct access to the information. Last thing I want is my computer having some direct link to Korea, which it seems this code will provide. It's not like they are just putting that code on their servers, they are installing it directly into our systems.

Probably a good thing anyways, as I was starting to get too into the game with alts and all. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

you think saying bye will scare EME into changing their minds lol time to pop some corn and take in this movie i'm seeing. its a block buster.

Kinda doubt they expect eme to do anything since their main reason for leaving is they don't feel heard as a community, but by all means go ahead and laugh as this dead game gets even deader.
TJukuren wrote: »
Really wish these forums came with a dislike button. Could probably break a record for most dislikes on a mod post.

Never forget "March" :trollface:
Here's a fun thing you can do to them:
1. equip a virulent crystal
2. challenge one of these [filtered] to a duel
3. they'll be spamming text so they'll say yes 90% of the time
4. beat them at the duel, hope the virulent crystal procs to apply poison
5. 1 hp and poisoned, they die seconds later

They get really angry about it when they have to put a real person at a bot to decline duels and avoid duelists. It's funny as hell and gives them some grief, which they honestly deserve. This won't stop the spam, but I hope it helps you anyway. Pic related, one spoke the other day when a cool zerker did this to him over the course of an hour: unknown.png
Are you comparing these classes because it's your goal to zerk tank, or do you mean zerk as a dps class?

In any case, zerk really doesn't feel slow paced anymore, not with cyclone resets and lethal strike resets and unleash being a thing. Like Yordan said, it's top dps right now. Do yourself a favor and don't tank with it; almost everything good that zerk has going for it gets eliminated the moment you switch to tank-stance. No more lethal strike. No more cyclone, so no more cyclone resets either. Gives almost no party buffs unless you count the debuff, can't enrage, and its personal dps as a tank is minimal. It holds aggro well, but so does every other tank class in the game. It needs work.

Brawler is probably the second worst tank in the game right now with zerktank being a distant last place. Both lancer and warrior do respectable dps in a skilled player's hands while providing amazing party buffs. Brawler does great dps and pretty much nothing else. That's not to say it's a bad tank, but it doesn't bring as much party support to the table as the others, and its dps isn't as big a deal as it used to be now that the other tanks can dps as well.

If you're wondering what to do, I'd suggest playing zerk as a dps, or making either a lancer or a warrior to tank with instead.
RKC wrote: »
What is XIGNCODE?

It's a third party program meant to stop cheaters, but if you google it at all you'll see that cheaters bypass it on Day 1, easily. It's also quite difficult to remove, as it doesn't show up on your programs list and doesn't go away when you uninstall the game. It's also known for being a resource hog and generating false positives, meaning players who do nothing wrong could be at risk of getting banned if EME isn't thorough in their implementation/whitelisting. And since EME seems really short staffed and unable to be thorough about anything right now, most people who've played other games where XIGN was a thing are very worried.

Here's hoping this is just a baseless rumor, honestly.
Equitas wrote: »
Once again, everyone is outraged whilst knowing next to nothing of the situation.
In the future, I'd recommend doing a little independent thinking and research instead of just regurgitating someone else's uninformed babbling. It does wonders for the soul.
What a presumptuous statement; talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

In other games and in other communities, XIGNCODE is notorious for high CPU usage, privacy issues, and false positives hurting innocent players. Most serious cheaters bypass it within an hour. Everyone else stuck using it gets to deal with the above issues.

In the future, I'd recommend doing a little independent thinking and research instead of just going off of your own solitary personal experiences.
Naru2008 wrote: »
If eme tells us that this is happening I'm asking for a full refund I don't want them to monitor me playing Minecraft forge in high priority then ban me.

lol, sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't ask for refunds because of a security program. Good luck though.

EDIT: Also, thread name needs to be changed, as it's misleading. Anti-cheat games are not malware programs. Just because you don't like it (or whatever reason) doesn't mean you get to sit here, call it malware, and cause a panic about anti-cheats.

This title isn't misleading at all. XIGNCODE latches itself onto your PC, sending out information about your activities even after you uninstall the game it's meant to protect. Since it doesn't do its job of stopping cheaters either (most just bypass the service entirely), it basically just exists to hide in the background, acting at an elevated level, sending out user information. That is straight up malware, dude.
Khernz wrote: »
forum whiteknights will actually defend xigncode in 2018. LUL

Dude I was starting to feel like I was in bizarroworld. So glad somebody else sees how ridiculous XIGNCODE is.
Anyway, I'll wait for proof as well. Having a hard time believing that now, when the game is at its deadest, they'd suddenly slap that on here and likely kill everyone's custom appearance modding in the process. God knows how many performance issues it would add to the already bloated game as well.
Oh hey this discussion again.

HM dungeons should drop silver and gold plates.

You'll tell me "this will kill crafting" but all any competent developer would have to do is adjust crit rates on crafting to make it a lucrative possibility over dungeon farming. It's not hard. Make RRHM give each player 5 plates. RRHM takes a decent party ~30 minutes to clear. Meanwhile, you could farm 20 golden talents and turn them into plates in way less time, and you might even crit and get more. That method does not kill crafting. You still have an edge as a crafter. People who can't complete difficult content will still buy from you, a crafter. You just won't be able to sell plates for 400 [filtered] gold each anymore, which is why the crafters are all upset. This is coming from someone who has a crafting master for every type of profession in the game and has made thousands off of this scarcity; I'd rather just farm it from dungeons. Crafting sucks in this game. There's 0 player involvement. You just stand there watching your avatar do the same animation loop at an unbearably slow pace. Are you kidding me? How is this fun? How is one-shotting low tier IOD mobs with +7 stormcry weapons fun?? None of this is enjoyable; in fact, just the other day we had a newer player complaining about his low tier IOD mobs getting REKT by people in stormcry because, surprise, that's what happens when you force EVERYONE into one zone and give zero alternatives.

Back when we needed feedstock and alkahests to enchant, every dungeon in the game dropped those. You didn't have to walk your ultimate-endgame-gear-having butt down to the lowest tiers of content available to get feedstock, because the developers realized that it's absolutely stupid to have people gear up only to force them back to the starting zone. are you kidding me

inb4 merchants and crafters coming in here to say "everything's fine just spam iod"
inb4 "ur just lazy"
inb4 someone begs eme for a dumb event that pours millions of talents into the broker
inb4 people who just want to run dungeons and get talents from FUN CONTENT get lumped in with people who just want free [filtered] from events

Every time. Every single time. But hey, on the bright side, the new dungeon won't give bankable mats so now we all just have to gear one (1) character. :thumbsup:
freonwolf wrote: »
> @CornishRex said:
> @freonwolf
> The general patch and class position does match rmh patch with some exceptions, I doubt they'd release gunners as op as they were back in 2015 because that would mean actual effort in having classes of varying builds that don't answer to the same patch. It would be a mess to implement.
> Guides are helpful because they've been mathed and tested out by experienced players of those classes.
> This is an mmo, there will always be one correct way to do everything with little room for experimentation. However I would like to note that gunners are one of the most versatile classes when it comes to builds on pc as you can go with either power, energetic or mixed etchings. But their dps priority list will always be one with some breathing space when it comes to choosing certain glyphs such as rocket jump or point blank cd, and it will only change with upcoming buffs/nerfs.

So you are the sheep lol. You can't even pretend to know if we are on the exact patch because like I said its mixed match to make it work for console. I always think its funny how everyone thinks that everyone should use the same build and only the build that guides suggest, tested by experienced players is a just another way way of saying im the sheep and follow you. I've data mined the same files and no one knows the correct crystal setup jjust their own preference nothing works as they think unless you know the exact server files coding which is not on the client side no one will know the exact multipliers they can only guess. Never even said guides were not helpful just that build in the guide is the poster preference.
I use certain crystal depending on how I feel like playing that day does it make it the correct one, no it does not just that its my preference. Hate how everyone thinks that just because yoursetup is not like theirs or the essential mana sites than you are a trash player, when in all likelyhood they are the least experienced because they copy others and never truly learn the class. You give your opinion on setup for playstyles does that make your way the best for the gunner or is my way the best. Neither is correct because its our preference, our playstyles. We the PC players need to remember this is the console version and playstyles is very different for some. Let them learn what works best for them but don't expect that everything posted in guides that is the only option and way. Their is no right or wrong in crystal setup, armor build yes to a certain extent because all gold rolls is better than green. No matter what you say it all boils down to the same thing that persons preference ( I can kill just as quick with all pounding just as I can with carving,wrath focus etc on my characters its all in the playstule and sill rotation I use for each setup)

There is no one correct way in mmo im a programmer for games and games are programmed for multiple playstyles and there is always room for experimentation(ex: no experimentation than how do players know what crystal setup works best for them) if there wasnt than mmo would have died out ages ago from sheer boredom. Just because we the programmer know how we want you to play does not mean each person will follow the same pattern, we want you to press x but you want to press y does that make the player wrong no it does not. And if there was only one way than everyone would not have the option to use different skills at different times you would have only one set of skill rotations not multiples.

Remember this wall of text is just my opinion doesn't make it right or wrong .

You do you, but I think all they meant was that tried and tested methods of playing that result in better damage, faster clears, and less wipes are objectively superior. There definitely is a right or wrong setup; people who use the wrong ones and just do whatever they feel like pretty much always get carried by people who took the time to learn how to play. If you're okay with getting carried in team content then that's fine, but don't be surprised when nobody wants to run with you. Not even saying this is a good thing; I wish there were more variety in this game as well, but the sad truth is there just isn't, besides maybe some weapon roll variations you can make. Sucks but it's true, and if you call people a sheep for trying to help you out then idk what to say.
I don't get it either, but whatevs man. Maybe EME is becoming a charity nonprofit.
Tera does have an identity crisis but it runs deeper than cosmetics. Unique elements of the game like campfires and stamina have been removed in favor of a more streamlined setup more akin to other games. The touted action combat has become rather moot, since 99% of content doesn't require you to dodge and some classes actually encourage facetanking (zerk's awakening skill, unleash, gets a lower cd the more you get hit for example). The open world, which used to have things to do (whether that be daily reputation quests, or just open world pvp) has become barren; all content fluff removed and incentive to do it, eviscerated. To top it off, solo/easy content is typically the most rewarding from a time:gold standpoint, meaning that kind of dull and unchallenging content is what people will find themselves doing most. Lastly, solo content tends to be extremely lucrative despite this being a multiplayer game.

In other words, tera can't decide if it wants to be a skill based multiplayer mmo with unique gameplay elements or a typical themepark mmo with very little making it unique besides elins. Tera definitely has an identity crisis, but I'm afraid your post only scratched the surface.
Unbankable mats are absolute cancer though. Discourages people from doing content on their alts basically.
I mean if that's how you want to drag out the patch, it's your game and you can do what you want but you should know that that's terrible.
Yordan wrote: »
So what's the point of this, that's just for ims. You can make party yourself and enter there in guardian. Plenty of 450+ will be doing it, with healers way below that.
CornishRex wrote: »
> @Yordan said:
> So what's the point of this, that's just for ims. You can make party yourself and enter there in guardian. Plenty of 450+ will be doing it, with healers way below that.

You lose out on the vg, which is pretty bad because drops from dungeons are plain depressing

This is why vanguard rewards should just be given regardless of item level. If you can clear the dungeon, you deserve the vanguard reward. Not a difficult concept.

I'd say the absolute least rewarding feeling in this game is being on one's healer and hard-carrying a group of learning dps/tanks (who didn't say they were learning until halfway through when it was too late to turn back) through a difficult dungeon only for said floor-huggers to jack every piece of boss loot for themselves, unmercifully rolling on things they don't even need or have already won one of to effectively ensure that their greedy-[filtered] gets as much undeserved stuff as possible. Meanwhile, you, the person who made the clear possible by scraping their bodies off the floor every step of the way, can't even get the pitiful vanguard reward because your item level is lower than the people you just spent two hours of your life (that you'll never get back) carrying. No healer in their right mind would do that; even for your greatest friends, even in an experienced group that clears quickly, it gets old hella fast. Really wish something would be done about it.
Tanks, yeah. They can mitigate or prevent damage, dish out damage themselves, and they don't have to worry about kiting.
A healer left alone will get hit eventually, doesn't have very many iframes to prevent damage to themselves, and won't feasibly end the fight.
Let's say you're at a boss with 8% left and everyone dies in an unressable way except one person. If that person's the tank, you still stand a chance. If that person's the healer, then unless they're a mystic with blob summon up, you're probably just gonna bitterly reset the fight.
As for "they aren't losing out by keeping them in the store forever even if people don't buy them," every business does this... retailers, fast food, etc... it is for the sake of rotation, basically bringing the "back from the past" that will ignite customers interest.
Let's say you have a Forth of July shirt... You got it for free but it doesn't suit your tastes. You attempt to sell it in the month of March, no one seems interested... what do you do?
1) Leave it on the rack for someone to eventually buy it
2) Take it off the rack and wait for a special event and then re-introduce it

Every business you listed stores actual items and has to manage storing them in real space. For those businesses, it makes sense to cycle inventory. You wouldn't want to pay for storage on goods nobody wants because they're out of season, for example. Even in your final example, if you got the shirt for free and it's literally one shirt then there's no reason not to just leave it on the sales floor; in fact, it'd be weird to set aside one shirt in the back room. However, a seller of digital goods doesn't have to worry about the storage problem, hence the question posed by Cornish originally. The only reason EME and other companies do this is because it works, though; idiots buy into it every time, and then they complain about how dumb it is to remove things from a digital shop. Which is why, again, people, don't buy into this crap and it'll stop. It's disgusting how many people are complaining about this but then buying emp anyway and rewarding sales tactics they claim to hate.

On another note, I went back to Maplestory after years of not playing it. There are items in their store that have been in there for literally 10 years. They haven't removed them, because they realize -- rightfully so -- that it's always better to give your customers more options, not less.

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Got this announcement 45 minutes ago and logged off because of it. Buddy of mine was still online and told me the servers never went down, so I came back and it's still online. Was this just a mistake? Want to know if I'm safe to do stuff.

Also a lot of people logged off because of this, and now my lag that's plagued me all afternoon is completely gone. <3
Edit: NEVER MIND lag's back, girl byeeeeeeee
Vektron wrote: »
Servers off, Apologize by giving the players 1000 emp
Its the right thing to do.

Edited: 1500emp

lmao
This was a problem when Brawlers came out in PC too. The issue is that Brawler feels like a DPS class while leveling up. Even though it's clearly a tank class from the descriptions and stuff, some people don't read and just punch their way to 65. Funny to see it happening here as well.

Only thing you can do is refuse to run with people like that. If they wanna be all "I'll play how I want" about it, let them play alone.
I tried to warn people about performance issues back when console tera was announced and got white knights claiming the game would be magically optimized for console by Bluehole "if it's not Korean I don't care" Studios. Most dungeons up to 65 run smooth like butter, and then you hit the endgame stuff and the FPS dips are real, even on beastly gaming rigs. Nobody playing during the betas would've gotten that far to see it, but now that more people are doing endgame stuff, sure enough the complaints are rolling in. Wait until you guys get the truly notorious FPS-droppers like sky cruiser endeavor or timescape. Heck, shadow sanguinary is bad enough when enough fire orbs float around.

I hope for your community's sake some console expert finds a way to optimize your version and writes a guide on it. I wouldn't wait on Bluehole for a fix. Coming from a PC player who's been waiting on that fix for over four years. ;^)
You do you. Other people will do their thing too.

Considering the console patch is quite old, it's not hard at all to find a video so you have a general idea of how things work. Most people will expect this since none of the content is actually new unless it is genuinely your first time playing the game. If that's the case and you just enjoy doing blind runs, perhaps try making your own group where you state that it's a blind run so you can grab other like-minded people for it and learn together. Joining a group of total randoms and expecting them to carry you while you die a dozen times bruteforcing your way through the mechanics is a mistake however, and barely anyone will put up with it especially if it makes the group wipe. Not trying to be a [filtered], just saying that's how the community has been for a while (on pc we get our content ~6 months after korea, so even here there is a sense that things can be researched ahead of time) and I doubt it'll be different on the console port.
Which dungeon was it? Just curious.
Anyway yeah it sucks, this is why most people just say nothing when they enter a dungeon and then everyone finds out they're new once it's very hard to kick them.
BrownDi wrote: »
Same happened to me, I told them "idk how to debuff enemies as a mystic", got kicked on the spot lol. I think I know how to debuff now (contagion if anyone can confirm)
You have 2 debuffs. Volley of Curses, which should be used regularly and should never vanish from the boss's hp bar, and Contagion which has a much longer cooldown and should be saved for important things like when the boss is enraged or dps mechanics.

Sometimes a boss will buff itself in a way that makes it extremely dangerous for your group and you'll have to "purge" that buff. For that, the debuff you're after is a skill called Regression.
tisnotme wrote: »
AND YET ALL MY BUDDIE UP CODES FOR THE 15 ALTS I HAVE ON fey forest GO FASTER THAN THE ALTS I HAVE ON OTHER SERVERS AND MORE OF THEM JIT THE LVL65 TOO
why at we using caps ??

That's actually pretty interesting. Do you happen to know how many of them keep playing after they reach the cap?
Elinu1 wrote: »
TR- PVE
MT PVP 65

/end thread

This is the correct answer. Other servers are extremely empty in comparison.
voidy wrote: »
Some say Banyakas also drops diamonds. None have seen it for 1000 years, though...

Not true I got double diamond yesterday.

Pic for proof:
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Impossible, the prophecy foretold a great calamity on the day of the Diamond drop...
this is unheard of
Some say Banyakas also drops diamonds. None have seen it for 1000 years, though...
BHS should just delete intimidation stance if they're not gonna do anything with it. They haven't meaningfully touched zerktanking in years. Don't make new zerks think they'll have a role as a tank/dps hybrid only for them to get kicked from groups or rejected from LFGs when people learn they want to tank as the worst tank in the game.
i hope we don't all get banned for using third party tools ;^)
Hey, me too. And a bunch of other people as well, but they all gave up on complaining and quit since nothing was done. Apparently it's got something to do with the route our ISPs take to the servers and for whatever reason it only gets bad in the afternoons. Don't expect anyone to fix this for you anytime soon, as people have been regularly complaining about this for over a year and the problems persist. When it's fixed for one group of people, it puts strain on another group of people entirely. I don't even know if it's something they can fix tbh.

Personally I tried using the mudfish VPN since it's cheap and I wanted to see if connecting from a different place would solve the issues. It did! So if you have like 3 dollars to drop on that, I'd say go for it. Other than that, your only option is to simply not play when it's laggy, which I've started doing out of principle lately because this is [filtered] ridiculous. No other game I play has this issue. No other service I utilize online has this issue. Not gonna jump through hoops when my net's fine for everything else. :shrug:
NASA supercomputers can't run TERA properly because of the poor optimization, then they put it on consoles...sigh.

The rhetoric used to go that it'd be optimized for consoles because Reasons.
Well, here we are. :lol:
LFKJ5THH44 wrote: »
> @voidy said:
> Every once in a while EME hosts strongbox events where the boxes give really good rewards and the value of those keys shoots up because everyone wants them. Most people save their keys for those events and then sell them to gamblers or use the keys themselves when the timing is right. I can't promise you'll get a similar event on console since I'm not EME, but you probably will get it since it makes EME money.

What kind of items are in the event boxes? If it's just consumables I'm probably just going to sell them. I'm not too concerned about min maxing.

Depends on the event. We had one recently on pc that gave enchanting materials in bulk. That's usually what it is.
Every once in a while EME hosts strongbox events where the boxes give really good rewards and the value of those keys shoots up because everyone wants them. Most people save their keys for those events and then sell them to gamblers or use the keys themselves when the timing is right. I can't promise you'll get a similar event on console since I'm not EME, but you probably will get it since it makes EME money.
You wouldn't get the FFFFFF error message if the servers were down; it'd send you to the server login page and then tell you that you can't get in because of server maintenance or whatever. Besides obvious things like restarting your PC, restarting tera's launcher, etc. you could also try a repair but that takes a while. Friends of mine who've had this issue come up all of a sudden were usually trying to get sweetfx to work or had just installed some visual mod to the wrong folder causing the game to crash at the start, so if either of those things sound like something you've done recently just undo it and you should be fine as well.
Have you tried resetting the game every couple of hours? I hear the memory leaks are pretty bad right now, so it might help if you reset the game every couple of hours.

Poor FPS optimization is sadly a problem with this game in general. Over the years we found ways to cut down on those issues by making minor adjustments to the .INI files but idk if there's a setting to do that on console. It's a shame honestly. I can understand optimization issues on PC, where everyone's hardware is different, but on console things should be standardized so it's a bummer that so many people are having FPS problems and stuttering and memory leak issues.
456NGF6W5D wrote: »
> @voidy said:
> The head start is so dumb. People reach the level cap in literally six hours because of how they streamlined leveling. You won't be as behind as you think. If anything, the people who dropped 30 USD on a head start in a game like this are the ones who weren't thinking clearly. I have a lot of complaints about this game, I'm not some forum white knight or anything, but the head start is probably the last thing to complain about. Heck, the cosmetic stuff they get is character bound so they can't even use it again when they inevitably make a second character.
>
> In any case, the game's been out for years on PC. idk why so many console players are surprised that there's no in game voice options or that items get bound to characters, or (in this case) that the game is slowly getting more and more p2w, etc. An ounce of research would've saved a ton of people here money.

Cool loserpcboy is hitting up every thread now.

Why are you so desperate to bash console gamers?

Bring one of your dolls up to your mom and show her where consoles players hurt you.

LMAO, who pissed in your capri sun?
CynicalFox wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
idk why so many console players are surprised that there's no in game voice options
You sure about this part? pretty sure I was able to use my mic and hear others in game during the technical test back in december. maybe not so much during the first beta but not everyone is even in the game chat across the system considering private parties are a thing, much like PC's Teamspeak and now Discord.

If this is indeed true, it'd explain a lot about why people's expectations are so different from the reality of the game's limitations.
456NGF6W5D wrote: »
> @voidy said:
> 456NGF6W5D wrote: »
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> > @voidy said:
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> > > @voidy said:
> > > ThrainXB1 wrote: »
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> > > The game went free back in 2013, and the shop is how they make their money.
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> > > Don't forget early access fees. :wink:
> > > Still kinda blows my mind that people paid 29.99 for early access to an older patch version of a free to play game that's been out for over five years on PC.
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> > Yeah because everyone owns a PC that can run it... It blows my mind that some people are so desperate to justify a device they play a video game on they need to try a bash what others play on or how they spend their money.
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> > For what it's worth, the PC version has a large community of people who help others optimize their setup so that even laptop users can play this game (albeit on very low settings). If you really wanted to try it on PC, you could have. You've had five years.
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> > That said, my original post wasn't bashing you for playing on console, you do what you want to do in that regard. What I'm saying is if you spent 30 dollars to get a "head start" in an older glitchy port version of a game where it takes 6 hours to hit the level-cap then you made a bad decision. A little research would've gone a long way for the majority of people in this thread (legit, the item binding system has been in since launch and you could have learned this from one google search before dropping 29.99), but I guess wasting money isn't a big deal for people who regularly spend 600 dollars on a console plus hundreds on controllers and a monthly fee just to play online, so you do you.
> >
> > See, that last part there, that was me bashing you for playing on console. :kissing_wink:
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> This is me telling you what an ignorant tool you are.
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> 1st the xbox x and ps4 don't cost $600.
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> 2nd controllers don't cost "hundreds " of dollars, my Razer mouse and keyboard both cost more that my elite controller.
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> 3rd nobody cares what "gaming desktop " your mommy bought you from Walmart.
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> 4th people like you who so desperate to bash other gamers because of how they choose to play video games are a cancer to the genre.
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The name is fine thanks. You can change yours to loserpcguy if you want though.

I'm okay with this. Have a good day, try not to get too butthurt over text posts on the internet. o/
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This is me telling you what an ignorant tool you are.

1st the xbox x and ps4 don't cost $600.

2nd controllers don't cost "hundreds " of dollars, my Razer mouse and keyboard both cost more that my elite controller.

3rd nobody cares what "gaming desktop " your mommy bought you from Walmart.

4th people like you who so desperate to bash other gamers because of how they choose to play video games are a cancer to the genre.

You be you and pretend bashing others because of how they play a video game doesn't show what a sad pathetic life you must live.

Just a heads up, you can change your name to SasukeWarrior2010 in the settings fam
Ascalonian wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
456NGF6W5D wrote: »
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> Still kinda blows my mind that people paid 29.99 for early access to an older patch version of a free to play game that's been out for over five years on PC.

Yeah because everyone owns a PC that can run it... It blows my mind that some people are so desperate to justify a device they play a video game on they need to try a bash what others play on or how they spend their money.

For what it's worth, the PC version has a large community of people who help others optimize their setup so that even laptop users can play this game (albeit on very low settings). If you really wanted to try it on PC, you could have. You've had five years.

That said, my original post wasn't bashing you for playing on console, you do what you want to do in that regard. What I'm saying is if you spent 30 dollars to get a "head start" in an older glitchy port version of a game where it takes 6 hours to hit the level-cap then you made a bad decision. A little research would've gone a long way for the majority of people in this thread (legit, the item binding system has been in since launch and you could have learned this from one google search before dropping 29.99), but I guess wasting money isn't a big deal for people who regularly spend 600 dollars on a console plus hundreds on controllers and a monthly fee just to play online, so you do you.

See, that last part there, that was me bashing you for playing on console. :kissing_wink:

Guess ill return fire to a PC elitist who wants to come to the xbox forums of a game. Im sorry that our console stands tests of time where 3 years down the line most the hardware in our rig is no longer obsolete and still runs just as good as it did from day 1. Oh look at me hurr durr i have PC i have better graphics and blah blah. You should probably look into the advantages of playing on console vs PC and vice versa before you come into a "XBOX FORUM POST" and post your brainless junk here. Do I have a PC and SEVERAL consoles? yes i do. I have an almost 2000$ computer that i parted together as well as both ps4 and xbox 1. Am i aware of the glaringly obvious differences and alot of the advantages PC might have over console and the console over PC? yup. Do i play 95% of my games on my PC because I have more access to some of the games (namely MMOs) on ther instead of console? Hell yea i do but i have multiple friends who do not much like playing TERA on the PC so i will be joining those individuals on there along with any new or veteran xbox/TERA players if they so choose

Thing about the xbox community is we can sit here and talk [filtered] back and forth as much as we want but at the end of the day we are (mostly ;) ) all together playing games and making the system grow.

There ya go. That was me telling you, you're a pompous [filtered] who needs to step out of a dedicated forum section if all your going to do is post nonsense.


I love how people are focusing on the last part of my post, which wasn't even meant to be taken seriously. Thought a kissy face wink would get that point across, but I guess y'all are sensitive about your toys. Gonna let you know, I didn't even read your post since all of it pertained to consolewar nonsense. I own like, four consoles. I don't care what you play in your spare time.

I agree with OP's main point. Locking stuff to a CHARACTER and not an account is DUMB. But you know what? It's been part of the game since launch for most cash items. I don't like it, but it's just part of the game. OP could've researched it before dumping 30 [filtered] dollars into it. The game's not new. It's been out for ages. It is not hard to find info about this game and about how it handles cash shop transactions. It's not even just OP. Legit, half of the posts in this subforum are people [filtered] about the game lacking features that they could've known about if they'd googled it before dropping money into it, so I just feel bad for a lot of people here, especially since they could've tried it for free to see if they really liked the game beforehand.
Yes this happened a long time ago. Since you're new you missed it. We used to have open world pvp as anyone with common sense would imagine it. This allowed level 65s to kill people who were level 10. Was kinda cringey, but people just changed channels while they leveled up and were generally fine for the most part.

A lot of people complained for a long time, here and on the korean version, and at first they were told "it's a pvp server, shut up" but over time the complainers won. Now it's pvp-65. This factor, and a few others, have contributed to the pvp decline on the PC version. Hopefully things are different for you guys!
456NGF6W5D wrote: »
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> Still kinda blows my mind that people paid 29.99 for early access to an older patch version of a free to play game that's been out for over five years on PC.

Yeah because everyone owns a PC that can run it... It blows my mind that some people are so desperate to justify a device they play a video game on they need to try a bash what others play on or how they spend their money.

For what it's worth, the PC version has a large community of people who help others optimize their setup so that even laptop users can play this game (albeit on very low settings). If you really wanted to try it on PC, you could have. You've had five years.

That said, my original post wasn't bashing you for playing on console, you do what you want to do in that regard. What I'm saying is if you spent 30 dollars to get a "head start" in an older glitchy port version of a game where it takes 6 hours to hit the level-cap then you made a bad decision. A little research would've gone a long way for the majority of people in this thread (legit, the item binding system has been in since launch and you could have learned this from one google search before dropping 29.99), but I guess wasting money isn't a big deal for people who regularly spend 600 dollars on a console plus hundreds on controllers and a monthly fee just to play online, so you do you.

See, that last part there, that was me bashing you for playing on console. :kissing_wink:
The head start is so dumb. People reach the level cap in literally six hours because of how they streamlined leveling. You won't be as behind as you think. If anything, the people who dropped 30 USD on a head start in a game like this are the ones who weren't thinking clearly. I have a lot of complaints about this game, I'm not some forum white knight or anything, but the head start is probably the last thing to complain about. Heck, the cosmetic stuff they get is character bound so they can't even use it again when they inevitably make a second character.

In any case, the game's been out for years on PC. idk why so many console players are surprised that there's no in game voice options or that items get bound to characters, or (in this case) that the game is slowly getting more and more p2w, etc. An ounce of research would've saved a ton of people here money.
MPonder wrote: »
I'm seen the elite status on the site? Anyway to get it without $. I remember that I could buy a ticket that let me getting in dungeons with entry limit from the market after I had 0 entry.

Double entries, EVERFUL NOSTRUM and XP/Reputation gain seems pretty, hum, OP I think to have. Other things seems for convenience.

You can buy it on the broker from others who've purchased it with money but it's expensive for someone just starting out. 65k~80k+ depending on your server. For perspective, you get like 600 raw gold from one low tier endgame dungeon run.
It's an OP thing to have while you gear up yeah.
MPonder wrote: »
So it is getting Stormcry gear, glyphs and jewelry, enhancing it (maybe roll with scrolls) and that is it about gear? Can you guys estimate how much time it takes to have those? Let's say if I play to 6-8 hours a day.

Best Jewelries btw?

Do having more than one char speedup the process (because of dailies materials)?

Enhancing requires various materials obtained primarily through dungeons, which have daily entry limits on them so there's only so much you can accomplish in a day. I'll leave time estimates to someone else; I haven't restarted from 0 in a long long time.
Jewelry is given to you for free at 65 and you upgrade it as you go. Some gives power, some gives crit. Depending on your class you go with the power or the crit set. Some use both and mix the sets. Having multiple characters speeds up the process because of daily materials yes, but you also get experience applied to your item which, when maxed out, increases your odds of succeeding at an enchanting attempt. So there's pressure to play on your main and on your alt, essentially.
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Cant report them, no option to report player or mute player.

That being said i did report them thru the actul xbox interface, but no way in game.

Well that sucks. No way to report or block, so you're just stuck reading gold seller spam all day. Hopefully a GM bans them soon since they're just standing in town doing this. On PC we just report them and add them to blacklist, voila it's like they are not even there.
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Yeah man. In the main citys its pointless trying to communicate with the new early access gold sellers.

Are there really gold sellers already?
ThrainXB1 wrote: »
The game went free back in 2013, and the shop is how they make their money.

Don't forget early access fees. :wink:
Still kinda blows my mind that people paid 29.99 for early access to an older patch version of a free to play game that's been out for over five years on PC.
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It is radically different in that reguard. Trust me ive tried.

LMAO that sucks
Sorry dude
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I shouldnt have to use a seperate device to effectivly communicate with my guild.

Ok i can live without guild voice chat even tho other console mmos have it, but not even a sperate chat window for guild text chat is not acceptable.

You should be able to customize your chat tabs unless the console version is radically different in that regard.
You're not wrong to feel that way but this is how 99% of the cash shop purchases work in this game.
MPonder wrote: »
Hi, played Tera many years ago, if I remember, Manaya's Core was the end game dungeon at the time with others like one with a green slug man. I was think about coming back.

I have some questions, plz don't use abbreviation, because I'll probably won't know what you are talking about.

- Been geared: What someone has to be with to be considered geared, costumes, gear, access, talismans, runes, gems, etc, dunno what the game has and how grind it is to achieve that.

- Enhance system: Is the enhance system still without break and downgrade, how easy or difficult it is to reach max enhance? And about rolls.

- End game content: What are the PvE end game content (dungeon names), so I can search them on youtube, any need of a party? How sucessful is it to run with random people or better to find a group/guild to run them? How laggy is it?

- Most efficient dps for solo and most efficient dps for party, don't come with "play what is fun", I just want to know what is efficient and not have long dailies and dungeons runs.

Hi, welcome back.

>gear
There're multiple tiers of gear right now, and the enchanting system was revamped a few months ago and replaced with something else. At lower tiers it is quite friendly. When you reach the higher tiers (Frostmetal is second best, Stormcry [SC] is current best; everything lower is quite easy to do), it becomes grindy and expensive. If you know how to play your class, you'll do fine in Frostmetal gear in most dungeons if you use consumables. Newly added dungeons have harsh DPS mechanics, so in practice you probably won't get into many LFGs if you're not well known for being good despite being in frost, or if you don't have stormcry gear. Sad truth but there it is.

End game content depends. There're 3 categories here. Low tier, mid tier, and high tier.
Low tier is the stuff you'll do when you have absolute bottom of the barrel free-for-hitting-65 Guardian gear. These dungeons include Shattered Fleet (SF), Ravenous Gorge (RG), and Kalivan's Challenge (KC). You cannot actually start SF or KC without a full group so don't try to solo those. RG can be soloed.
Mid tier gets you Lilith's Keep (LK), Thaumetal Refinery Normal Mode (TRNM) and Kalivan's Dreadnaught (KD). While you could attempt to solo these if you wanted to, it is much much much more efficient in a group and you can do it with total randoms without any problems unless people have actual brain problems.
High tier stuff includes Ruinous Manor normal and hard mode (RMNM/HM), RK-9 Kennel normal and hard mode (RK9) and Thaumetal Refinery hard mode (TRHM). I would do these in an LFG with geared players if I were you, or with friends. They have very harsh penalties if the damage dealers in the group are not good, so IMS can often be a trap.

If you want to pick a top tier dps right now, go with warrior, berserker, valkyrie, and MAYBE slayer since they got some buffs recently but idk how it affects them. they're all good in parties. For solo play, I don't know. Warrior's probably pretty self sufficient there. Dunno how valk plays. Zerk loses HP from overcharging; I hate solo playing on mine because of that. This isn't to discount the other classes, because with enough gear you can be really good on most things right now. Only class I'd suggest staying away from is ninja, but even there I know ninjas in stormcry gear who do incredible damage so.

Hope this helped.
viggyu wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
Are you able to start the game at all, or does it give you that message when you hit PLAY and wait for the game to load?
If you're able to start the game, does that error occur after an extended period of time playing, or does it usually only take a few minutes to crash?

If you can get into the game and then it crashes, I have no advice for you. Many of my friends have the same issue where it just crashes after a while. If you're not able to start the game at all, I'd suggest running it completely clean if you haven't yet (you have probably already tried this though). For me I would get that issue when I was trying to use SweetFX and had it installed improperly. I also would get it when a cosmetic mod was in the wrong folder and messed things up. It's all I can think of, sorry if it doesn't help. The F error is given so much that it hardly tells anything.

i press the play button and a fun white window with the fun black text [Error FFFF:FFFF Fatal Game Client Exception]

That's so weird then if you're just running a clean/vanilla version of it. I usually see people having this problem when they try and sweetfx or cosmetically mod something. I don't know, sorry man.
Are you able to start the game at all, or does it give you that message when you hit PLAY and wait for the game to load?
If you're able to start the game, does that error occur after an extended period of time playing, or does it usually only take a few minutes to crash?

If you can get into the game and then it crashes, I have no advice for you. Many of my friends have the same issue where it just crashes after a while. If you're not able to start the game at all, I'd suggest running it completely clean if you haven't yet (you have probably already tried this though). For me I would get that issue when I was trying to use SweetFX and had it installed improperly. I also would get it when a cosmetic mod was in the wrong folder and messed things up. It's all I can think of, sorry if it doesn't help. The F error is given so much that it hardly tells anything.
Naru2008 wrote: »
As a customer, a company's financial business is none of your business, and doesn't (and shouldn't) matter to you.

If he's playing the game, he probably doesn't want to see the company hosting it go bankrupt over dumb decisions.
Gotta love how some classes won't even get a noteworthy awakening because they're already good with talents from ktera that we don't have. :^)
Implementing the key class talents as passives is the best solution, dunno why they don't just do it already.
Never understood why people get butthurt about old threads when they still cover relevant ideas. We still don't have bankable dragon scales.
Hell, the store could use a revamp as well. Put canephoras in there instead of 2 bravery potions.
I asked "what's the plan?" in FWC and got kicked lmao. Crystals and gear were oriented towards pvp as well.
It was my second run. I didn't know that the plan was basically the same every single time. :lol:

It is what it is. PvP communities being garbo, nothing new to see here.
ElinLove wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
Rathgar wrote: »
Too many tanks in Tera...hang on a sec, I have to get this out first HAHAHAHA!!

People have already hit on what needs to be said on how IM works but - in no way are there enough Tanks in Tera. I stopped doing Guardian Legion altogether because there is never a Tank of any kind to be found. I have to put way more effort into doing damage chasing Mexican jumping bean mobs all over the place. It's no longer worth the time investment. Hopefully when more male Brawlers are level 65 and il439 people can bother doing these again.

Tanks are rare for guardians because tanking against a dozen people in +7 sc with no healer to give you mana or heal you so you can play aggressively is a [filtered] experience. I have a tank and I could do guardians but I don't because of that, and because usually a second tank will come along and compete with me for aggro. It sucks, but it's just easier to do it on my healers. Blame the game for that.

Or better yet, there are several tanks, each in a different position, and they're all competing for aggro and the boss starts spinning as such.

That's always fun.

But remember, there's a tank shortage ;^)

Tho if I remember, people love doing it on tank cause blocks, self heal and being able to still do DPS to clear the Guardian Missions faster than a random DPS class that just HAS to chase the back

It's weird. On the one hand I hear people saying there are no tanks at guardians. On the other hand, whenever I go to tank guardians I have to deal with other tanks already there jacking aggro which lowers my DPS. Because of this contradiction, I'm forced to believe that during regular hours this tank shortage is really not bad at all or maybe the people complaining are just super unlucky, idk
DL7MMWLJ3W wrote: »
I'll give my two-cent about RMHM, especially last boss.

People here begging for buffs to make RMHM faster is NOT going to solve greedy DPS syndrome where they avoid taking red/yellow spheres and ends up wiping the party because "MAH DPS" attitude. Especially when you got a greedy DPS with no debuff, and ends up taking whatever spawns that could be yellow leaving others to fend for themselves of having to chase down that last remaining sphere.

It's mostly Warrior and Valkyrie players that have this nasty mentality of wanting to ignore mechanics for the sake of wanting to look cool on their DPS meter.

This is always a problem when mechanics call for dps to stop and do a thing. Velik's Sanctuary Nightmare Lakan was bad as well because greeders gonna greed and then they get knocked into the fires and die for the rest of the fight and we have to wipe because it's on a timer. Or Forsaken Island where all they have to do is break away to kill a tombstone and come back but they don't do that either and so a ghost just chases the poor healer around for the whole fight. Or at RK first boss where people don't want to go away to kill bombs when 2 have spawned. Or Kalivan's first boss where your dps don't want to do the barrel mob mechanic so the healer does it instead, but the dps take every hit while the healer's away etc. etc. etc.

It's why good dps are truly rare. People who can balance between managing crucial mechanics and still hitting high numbers are extremely rare, like a popori brawler.
SageWindu wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
Rathgar wrote: »
Too many tanks in Tera...hang on a sec, I have to get this out first HAHAHAHA!!

People have already hit on what needs to be said on how IM works but - in no way are there enough Tanks in Tera. I stopped doing Guardian Legion altogether because there is never a Tank of any kind to be found. I have to put way more effort into doing damage chasing Mexican jumping bean mobs all over the place. It's no longer worth the time investment. Hopefully when more male Brawlers are level 65 and il439 people can bother doing these again.

Tanks are rare for guardians because tanking against a dozen people in +7 sc with no healer to give you mana or heal you so you can play aggressively is a [filtered] experience. I have a tank and I could do guardians but I don't because of that, and because usually a second tank will come along and compete with me for aggro. It sucks, but it's just easier to do it on my healers. Blame the game for that.

Or better yet, there are several tanks, each in a different position, and they're all competing for aggro and the boss starts spinning as such.

That's always fun.

But remember, there's a tank shortage ;^)
Rathgar wrote: »
Too many tanks in Tera...hang on a sec, I have to get this out first HAHAHAHA!!

People have already hit on what needs to be said on how IM works but - in no way are there enough Tanks in Tera. I stopped doing Guardian Legion altogether because there is never a Tank of any kind to be found. I have to put way more effort into doing damage chasing Mexican jumping bean mobs all over the place. It's no longer worth the time investment. Hopefully when more male Brawlers are level 65 and il439 people can bother doing these again.

Tanks are rare for guardians because tanking against a dozen people in +7 sc with no healer to give you mana is a [filtered] experience. I have a tank and I could do guardians but I don't because of that, and because usually a second tank will come along and compete with me for aggro. It sucks lol.
Lapomko wrote: »
Theres alot of tank mains that never get asked because theres many better tanks out there that would be a better pick.
It's not about holding aggro anymore these days as a tank. It's how much damage you can do and buff up-time thanks to dps meters. Tanks that hold aggro but deal low dps get left out so again you have to be really skilled/top tier tank to be always picked. Good luck as a new player with the hardest role to master.

One annoying factor is when dungeons are released that *don't* ask much of a tank (that endless sea of final bosses that didn't move, for example, like desolarus, the tree at demokron factory, etc.), so you have groups that stop caring about their tank's skill because no skill is required. RM is great because its second boss punishes tanks who need more practice and its third boss asks the tank to pay attention and time their dodges and manage their RE/iframes. We need more dungeons like RM before tanks can be called "the hardest role to master" again, because right now in a majority of content it's mega braindead and there's barely any pressure on them. More positioning battles, more tank-fights plzthanks.
Lapomko wrote: »
And the funny thing is my static always have hard time getting a capable dps so we have to cross-que with friends from TR/MT to get a run going thanks to the DPS check/shield.
That is so true. Good DPS are so hard to find these days. I've put my tank on the shelf lately and started gearing my old zerk because I end up switching a lot anyway when my friends want to tank and this good-dps bottleneck is irritating as [filtered]. Never seen an mmo where there're tons of support players just sitting around idly while there're barely any (good) dps.
Being a tank main is absolute suffering without a loyal static or at the very least a pocket healer. There're tons of tanks and a party only ever needs one, so an idiot could work out the conclusion: lots of tanks get left out. I hope you have a DPS alt ready to regularly switch to. In fact, the general willingness to take *any* tank flies in the face of this notion that people care about quality among their tanks. I see terrible tanks getting frequent runs, even when people complain about them afterwards, while actual decent tanks will log in, see that the tank slots are all full, and log out for the evening. I actually know a guy who does this all the time, complains about this awful tank in stormcry gear who can't hold aggro, yet he runs with him constantly. Can't for the life of me understand why he doesn't just invite the laundry list of bored/good tanks with nothing to do, but there you have it.

I didn't mean to rant. TLDR get friends or your experience will suck. Take it with a grain of salt when people say there's a tank scarcity. If anything there's a scarcity of GOOD DPS for all these timed/shield-phase dungeon mechanics.
Just asking since every day it happens at like, 10~12 in the morning. The only people I know who can do it are European or are unemployed american NEETs. It was like this for the old rally BAMs as well, in that it was virtually impossible for most NA players to do it. Not even mad, but it'd be nice if an evening rally schedule were implemented so NA players with jobs or responsibilities wouldn't be consistently alienated from the one big rewarding daily event this game offers at the moment. I won't ask why the timing for it is random, though I do wish the window were a bit smaller.
> EU outpacing NA
> it's about events

http://tera.enmasse.com/news/categories/all
Yeah, we have no events at all in NA. *sarcasm overflow*

I mean, they put our events on the launcher and above the chat. How can you even miss them?

Did you even read them, they're all cash shop events
No.

There are zero upsides to it. Absolutely none.

You think you'll get all the good things that are usually hogged in a populated world, like rallies and world bosses? All it takes is one guild, or one person with a timer and dedication, to ruin that for you. And trust me, despite the lower population counts, those people exist and love to hog all of that. Sorry, but somebody else had your idea first and beat you to the punch.

On top of that, the broker will be slow. Everything you put up will take ages to sell unless it's lowballed and in demand. This sucks if you're not elite because it'll mean you're stuck relisting expensive and harder to sell items OVER AND OVER AGAIN and paying the broker tax for it each time because there's nobody online to buy your item. You'll also spend AGES trying to buy desired items (and then get stuck paying a LOT of gold due to heavy demand and low supply) while MT and TR will have several pages of that item at an affordable price.

LFG is dead as well, which sucks if you want to do high end content at a reasonable pace. People talk about IMS but it can be a real toss up, especially in dungeons with DPS mechanics like RMNM's second boss or RK's final boss shield phase. You could easily get trapped for hours if you get a group that has terrible DPS, and the IMS kick systems often make it difficult to expel party members, especially if they queued with friends.

If you play on an emptier world, you'll have less people in a game that's based around a multiplayer experience. Don't do it. This is coming from someone on CH. I could lie to you and tell you things are fine so you'd join and we'd get one more person, but I'm not going to do that.
I always wished the dyeing system had an eyedropper tool so I can select colors from my accessories and use them with my outfit.
Also the ability to dye accessories would be great, absolutely fantastic.
Sounds like you dodged a bullet tbh. They would've probably had meltdowns during the dungeon run as well.
Ray676 wrote: »
Literally a week ago you could guarentee yourself a Smart niveot structure by doing RK9. Why complain about events if you don't even participate in the first place?

Maybe he couldn't participate in last week's event or something.
RNG always creates bitterness, dunno why games keep implementing luck based systems that inevitably screw over a small segment of people, but w/e.
I was with you until I saw 7 dollar lootboxes, then I nope'd out pretty hard not gonna lie
I'm not a girl, definitely not, totally not. Nope. I'm a big muscular Human Male named Chad who slays all that elin punani in Velika, haha that's me. Big strong guy. I lift groceries and watch sports and get drafted. Definitely not a grill, nope. What are tampons, I don't know because I'm not a grill.
Vifts wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
Yes chains are faster if you hard cast them one after the other instead of relying on spacebar. I don't know what the spacebar equivalent is for console users, nor have I played the console version so I can't say if it's the exact same there or not.

Many classes get things called powerlinks, which make it so that certain skills are better if used after a specific skill. There're also certain skills that activate faster if used after specific skills. In this regard, yes, for certain skills there are some variables that make chaining extremely good and important.

I can't speak for pvp since I don't do it, but in pve, chaining your skills properly is how you'll play optimally. Of course it depends on the class. Some have less to worry about than others and rely on a priority system over a complicated chain system. But for classes with chains, they generally play a role in the rotation and I hope for your sake the console version gives you a smooth way to execute them.

Spacebar chaining is not faster as the prompt comes up noticeably later than the time it would have taken to simply cast the next ability in a chain manually. It's also extremely inefficient as mentioned above the default skill chain will often lead you to a "dead end" because the final skill of a chain is on cooldown and ultimately waste dps

That's exactly what I said. Maybe I was unclear, but I thought "instead of relying on spacebar" would make it obvious that I meant hard casting instead of using spacebar.
voidy wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
In my opinion you're lucky to not be invested in the PC version, since it's clearly being put on the backburner while the console community gets the bulk of resources and management. Both versions need a community manager, who gets one first? Console version. Website gets a facelift in time for what? Console version. First two news posts in the PC section are what? Cash grab events. Posts in the PS4 version on the other hand? Open beta events, a FAQ page, and tweets from the devs thanking the players for existing.

Stick with console. They're gonna be pumping resources into it hard, so you might as well be where the action is.

We had a great Community /manager, one who made events and put a lot of effort into the PC Version but everyone constantly complained and now he's gone.

Spacecats never said his reason for leaving had anything to do with the community. For all we know he just got a better job somewhere else.
Also Spacecats's events blew up the economy multiple times and a bunch of people, myself included, were shadowbanned (this is when you are able to post, but unknown to you no one can see your posts except you) while he was community manager, so I have a feeling our opinions on his time here will differ wildly.

Actually, He did say why he left over and over again on his personal stream that I follow regularly.

Oh, I didn't know he was vocal about it on his personal stream, or that he even had a personal stream. If you have a link to it or even a quote, I'd be interested to hear it. I just figured he found a better job somewhere else.

As far as I know, he isn't yet working. I know he simply said " Leaving EnMasse came a surprise to me " and that was January 19th but I'm not sure it's something people can openly discuss. Here is a link to his stream though.

Interesting stuff, thanks.
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