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Sold my complete lancer +9 sc set for $300. Ban me mEME, I'm done giving you the due appreciation you once deserved ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The fact they released the info on a Friday before they left the office is a cowardly move. Like have some spine, face your punishment. What they did was similar to shooting someone in the back because they weren't man enough to accept the fact they're killing, except in terms of a video game
3....2....
You get a closed thread! You get a closed thread! EVERYBODY GETS A CLOSED THREAD!
Do I hear 9?
Equitis is actually seandynamites alt account
Honestly, I don't know how it survived the addition of Xigncode.

Betting it will somehow survive this...

It survived because proxy. Those who value their rigs used proxy to bypass XC. Yea sure, XC may not be an issue 99.99% of the time but as Vegeta once said "You're either perfect, or you're not me". I agree with you though, NA will somehow manage to survive this. Though at what cost? A lot have already moved on to EU. Yea, eventually EU will patch out the proxy as well but not before they take advantage of this mass migration.
Anyone have a flow chart to show EME how this is going affect their game?
22 pages of replies and not a single one from counterpoint. You know [filtered]'s bad when counterpoint stops defending eme
Furhyan wrote: »
People can be gentle: delete
People can be hostile: delete
People can fart: delete
People wants answers: delete

Aaaanyway.

Anyone wants to buy my zerk gear???

Furfur! We've missed you! Also wts +9 lancer sc stuff
We're on EU atm
Not many people are crying. Majority of us are actually laughing at EME. They have become a joke of a company
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »
Yordan wrote: »
Eme decided that anyone with 150+ ping quitting is not a big deal, good business decision.

if tera closes down, will they get another game from bhs to run, or will they just have the ones they made?

I find it highly unlikely EME will ever get another game from BHS after this. Five years down the road, the employees at eme gonna be like "Hey, remember that time we were actually a big company and we published Tera Online until we shafted all of our customers? Good times."

BHS is EME owner.

Your point? Kakao is publishing A:IR, Bluehole develops/publishes pubg. EME will not get another game from BHS

Kakao paid BHS to develop A:IR so BHS has no said in who will publish the game, BHS develops PUBG and has partnership with MS with that game and has EME staff to attend support from that game.

Your point?

My point is EME will more than likely never publish another game as huge as Tera. You can read, barely, but do you understand?
KXRC9JMW74 wrote: »
Lots of salt in these threads, best thing to do is close the forums and let the babies cry

The "babies" are more than likely the ones who have invested way more into this game than the average casual player. The "babies" are those who've been around for many years. EME anticipated the salt, you don't make a huge move like this and expect 90% of people to remain happy about it. Those of us who have invested thousands(dollars and hours) should be entitled to at least voice our opinions. The idea of closing the forums is ignorant and asinine at best.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »
Yordan wrote: »
Eme decided that anyone with 150+ ping quitting is not a big deal, good business decision.

if tera closes down, will they get another game from bhs to run, or will they just have the ones they made?

I find it highly unlikely EME will ever get another game from BHS after this. Five years down the road, the employees at eme gonna be like "Hey, remember that time we were actually a big company and we published Tera Online until we shafted all of our customers? Good times."

BHS is EME owner.

Your point? Kakao is publishing A:IR, Bluehole develops/publishes pubg. EME will not get another game from BHS
Yordan wrote: »
Eme decided that anyone with 150+ ping quitting is not a big deal, good business decision.

if tera closes down, will they get another game from bhs to run, or will they just have the ones they made?

I find it highly unlikely EME will ever get another game from BHS after this. Five years down the road, the employees at eme gonna be like "Hey, remember that time we were actually a big company and we published Tera Online until we shafted all of our customers? Good times."
I was just on the game since the server merge and have so far managed to save up 2k of each, gold and silver talents. That's like a week, week and a half maybe, of farming. I play two hours a day on two characters, both lancers, one in +9 sc, the alt in +0 sc. It's not that difficult to acquire large amounts of anything in this game. One method I use is using my gold from vangaurds to purchase off of other players, usually guild members, to acquire my talents. Also, stop spending your gold on useless items like costumes and mounts then you can buy more talents. You think kamizuma earned all his gold buy spending it? No
Mentioned on Discord that they don't think it can be fixed without maintenance, so they expect it to be fixed next weekend.

Nice! Discord is such a great platform to update their community when things like this happens. Everyone uses official Tera discord and no one memes there. It's such a safe space too for those who are a little more sensitive. Like that time KitTeaCup was deleting everyone for critiquing how they handled the merge. No one needs forums anymore amirite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I remember taking hours to clear a WHHM party in Bloodhoned gear. I remember when I could gather a bunch of materials and craft Bloodhoned stuff and sell it on the broker as a source of income. I remember using three threat crystals and a focused on lancer when I was new. I remember selling five +12 bloodhoned scythes the day reaper came out and banked so much. I remember CS before there were bombs. I remember when I could use a camp fire to walk tank against. Charms/Panacea inbetween each wipe. I remember when MWA was 100g+ and EMP was 1:10. I remember my first mount, Slepnir(or however it was spelled). My first lootbox, +12 crit inners. I remember a time before belts, brooches, and circlets. I remember when ilvl 170ish was op
-studying for degree in material science atm- names? you guys crying about names? think of all the productive things you could be doing right now but no, we gonna cry about names...on a dead game...that's about to die even more...lol. I can't wait for someone else to pick up my names then someone else tries to pm them in game like new phone who dis
Gameforge is not outperforming us - they are ignoring announcement embargo dates that BHS has placed on all publishers - basically LEAKING the info that we are working to globally announce. Undermining us does not mean they know more than us; just that we are respecting the developer's wishes.

What world do you live in? GF has been outperforming you in terms of the pr war, stated by one of your player council members. Maybe you guys(EME) should take some notes from them(GF). They're "ignoring embargo dates" in order to keep their customers/consumers updated rather than "ignoring" their customers. Let alone posting on their official forums opposed to twitter or what ever social justice...I mean social media sites you use. Stay woke soyboy, idfwu
Shame about ch. Oh well. I remember 4 years ago when I met this chick there, talked for a few months. eventually flew 2 hours north to meet her in a hotel, hit it for the weekend, went home and transfered to mt when I found out she was married with three kids xD good times CH, rip
6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
@MadameDryIce and anyone else who feels like reading:

I don't run many dungeons when I play not because there aren't people to play with, but because I find most of them a massive slog. Many other people have concurred that it's simply not worth it half the time thanks in part to wacky reward scaling. Having more people to play the same BS dungeons isn't suddenly going to make me want to run those same BS dungeons.

Then you are not different than someone who login just to afk for hours, by eme "data", and your time online contributes to nothing except numbers on what they base something that is not, player activity. If anything it is because of players like you, with that attitude, that CH is damned.

But he's only talking about dungeons. Not everyone spams dungeons 24/7
As I said earlier, the lack of logic at EME is hilarious. They're merging a few of the dead servers into the others while excluding CH, BUT, they're opening server transfers for those who want to leave CH. Therefore creating another dead server problem. This company makes my head spin when they do things. When you walk into EME for an interview and they ask you what your strengths are and you respond with "Incompetency" they'll give you a badge and a desk right away. They're literally creating the same problem they're trying to fix xD
voidy wrote: »
I also find it quite hypocritical that you went on a xigncode crusade even though the official EME record was that it was a completely safe anti-cheat tool

off topic but just for record it's only "completely safe" if you're using bypass. go read the bypass section of the ethical discord and see what other devs are saying about xc
As I said in the other thread, I am truly disappointed that they did not take any of the other other ideas, such as:
  • Increasing the character cap. (It gets raised with every new class anyway, and allowing people to purchase more slots just means more money anyway.)
  • Allowing people who are over the character cap to keep using their characters anyway without having to delete them.
  • Having the number of slots on the merged server be the sum (total) of what you had on the two servers instead of the max.

If you are forced to delete characters with bound items on them due to being over the server character cap, I would recommend contacting Support. They talk about refunding for character slots, so maybe something can be worked out. It wouldn't hurt to ask, if you're legitimately in this situation.

Heh, I don't think EME would want to refund me for all my items xD. I once contacted support to ask if they could tell me how much I've spent on tera over the years and the response I got was great.."Are you sure you want to know?!"
vkobe wrote: »
i really feel the end for our tera :'(

after this there'll be nothing left to merge so yea, this is the end
There isn't much logic these days between EME and the people who want CH to "standalone"
Ferria wrote: »
Meningitis wrote: »
Ferria wrote: »
1. Takes HOURS to QUE
That literally has nothing to do with CH. Queue goes between all servers.

Just added it there as one of the reasons.

Aren't you that asian chick who used to stream this game on twitch?
Meningitis wrote: »
Ferria wrote: »
1. Takes HOURS to QUE
That literally has nothing to do with CH. Queue goes between all servers.

It does when you're on your dps and there's no one who joins your lfg and you resort to queuing for a dungeon
Kirasaka wrote: »
The decision to not merge CH currently is based on our data-driven observations, not conjecture or opinion about the health of the server. We will be monitoring the transfers in and out of the server to determine if there is reason to pivot on this decision and merge it along with the other PvE servers. Again, free transfers will open up on Thursday, September 6th after maintenance concludes.

Cant wait to see everyone leave ch the second those transfers open up. Be realistic that is whats going to happen. Would certainly like to see these 'data driven observations' as they dont match what the playerbase is observing ingame.

We'll let the data decide what happens; THAT is realistic.

Data isn't what buys emp. Do you understand the value of a customer experience or are you part of the "Go woke, go broke" movement?
A7GLPNDYPN wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »
A7GLPNDYPN wrote: »
You're just bad , fm brawler can easily kill nyx in under 5 minutes especially with slaying setup

ye cuz slaying for a wb is new meta bruh, especially in +0 fm. git gud

What are you even trying to say , you should always slay for wbs to make them faster , unless you got some brain damage. And if you're saying a fm brawler wouldnt know what that is , it might be an alt or just a person who actually researches the game

easy there seabiscuit. don't get your panties all bunched up over a comment on the internet.
let En Masse know in the comments below by stating that you support this petition of sorts.

aren't petitions against the tos? not that I really care tbh, I've been trying to get banned for months but they still haven't banned me yet. however, I do agree that with you that this game does need an overhaul. I get it that you want to have a healthy discussion about this and what not but it's been what like six years now and they haven't listened to a single thing over the years. It's hard to remain positive when there's no positive course of action on behalf of the developers to improve this game. I haven't logged in to any version of tera since June 7th and I miss it so much but until they start changing things I won't be back and neither will my wallet. Good luck on change and hope and stuff like that though, I'd come back in a heart beat if they fix things
A7GLPNDYPN wrote: »
You're just bad , fm brawler can easily kill nyx in under 5 minutes especially with slaying setup

ye cuz slaying for a wb is new meta bruh, especially in +0 fm. git gud
Dreick wrote: »
Optimization on tera? You should check this video

I'ts a new videogame from BHS for this year(idk)

but it still has the same problem than PUBG and TERA so...this never gonna happen

is enmasse going to be handling this game for north America? also will it be free to play?

I highly doubt it. I couldn't trust EME to run an arcade so I doubt they'll get this. Then again it doesn't really matter who handles it, it's still going to be really bad. I'm also 104% sure it's going to be free to play. This game gonna be so cash grab. The cash shop and micro transactions seem to be a common business model among the mmo trend these days. Then you wonder why we see youtubers making videos and game journalists writing articles about MMOs becoming a dead genre
then they'll push it back another three months because reasons
Digivolve wrote: »
ElinLove wrote: »
The last word on the PC server merger (as of the last live stream) was that there'd be an announcement around the end of the month.

They have one week for this. Who wanna bet it's gonna be on the 31st?
31st of February

That's about when FIHM was supposed to be released so it makes sense
You bring up a good point but there is a work around for this. You could make an alt and transfer all the items you want to sell to your alt, list them there then go back to your main. Could either do that or just learn to ignore it
tera events be like Very+old+pic+i+have+_79485851553ae8c0a6a43e8003fee31a.jpg
I do not currently play anymore. The first three reasons you listed are why I got bored but their recent actions in June are what finally pushed me away from Tera. I do miss my friends, guild, and combat system so bad but there's other games out there. I just kinda lurk around for now with hopes and dreams of them making this game better (which is never going to happen this late in this games life).
AnnieClark wrote: »
[Removing Forum Violation]

They care just enough to shadow ban and delete threads/responses but won't respond. How to communicate like EME > :no_mouth:
Ellexem wrote: »
I can only imagine EME throwing up their collective hands and giving up on trying to please us.

I feel like this statement could be argued whether they've already gave up long ago, or if they're even "trying" anymore tbh. But I don't really feel like arguing anymore over tera. I just wish I could log in again
Wow, only took three years. Sadly, not enough to make me log in again
Christin wrote: »
Gatokatzen wrote: »
I bet they just want Let tera rest in peace, cause they are working in a new Kind of tera, but with unreal engine 4. And a lot of things that people love, like open world, fornite style and minecraft build and farming mode.

Do you know this or is it all under your "I bet"?

You'd think after so many threads like this y'all would get the message and not ever expect much. It's not like they see these threads and start to care.

They are working on a new game called A:IR. Though I can't comment on what engine that game is using
I wish EME would let me come back. I miss my lancers. Had full +9 sc lancer on two different servers and was working on my third at the time. Trying to play RO to fill that empty feeling left behind by the true action combat that Tera offered but it's not the same
All I've seen you do, ever, is derail threads and add nothing substantial, or of "merit", to the topic.

On topic of XC. I guess we're all just "pretending" that the activity has suffered since XC? Just go to the server merge thread and you'll find people discussing the drop in activity after XC. I'd like to hear how you think XC has not affected Tera before I "totally tell you off", otherwise you're just a troll.
IxWolfie wrote: »
What do you mean selling EMP and Cash shop items are the fastest way to get end game gear? If I sell EMP, I'm just getting gold out of it. You do need mats as well, mind you. If I'm buying EMP, I can buy strongbox keys for a chance to get end-game mats. But mind you that these are RNG, and often times you can open a mid to high tier strongbox and just get low tier mats. Not to mention that, at least on AV, nobody buys EMP because of the EMP rate, and as such, there's just an influx of "SELLING EMP" spam.

@Mouretsu is right though. Tera was never directly pay to win in the sense of pay cash get gear. However you could pay cash, sell shop currency for gold, buy gear. That's not pay to advance, it's not pay for convenience or what ever safe space term you want to use to try to justify why you're a floor mat in +9 Stormcry. It's pay to win. If it wasn't pay to win we wouldn't have Liberation Scrolls. But what does it matter if it's p2w? It's not like you're losing sleep at night, who knows maybe you are, because someone offended you on the internet.
Equitas wrote: »
Oh, it's this thread again. Are people still pretending XIGNCODE3 has affected TERA? That's cute. It's very clear how self-aware you guys are. You know that your use of XC as an excuse holds no merit in itself, so you have to bring up the other issues with this game to build your case. I get that TERA is in a poor state, but can you people just stop pretending XC has anything to do with it?

Then there's this guy. I'm not even going to bite at this. "no merit, other issues, poor state, stop pretending" LOL
Xerses wrote: »
I agree. I think the staff who works with Tera at EME have been downsized over the years so they can focus on other projects like Kritika. One of the big speculations is that EME can't do anything about Tera unless BHS allows them too. It would be nice to know what sort of tools or powers EME has and what changes they're allowed to make. That way we as a community would know for certain who we can hold accountable for negligence and incompetence. I'm not defending EME, but if they can't do anything they should just say "yeaaa we can't do that but we can suggest it to our superiors blah blah blah" which I'm sure they have in the past from time to time. But things like XC I know for sure is a BHS thing, I can pretty much guarantee if EME had power we wouldn't have XC.


We are really not in any sort of position to hold anyone "accountable" here.

Then my wallet is no longer in any sort of position to invest in this company.
vkobe wrote: »
KitTeaCup wrote: »

EME wants the best in TERA for all of you. We can't make everyone happy, but we certainly try. Thank you for keeping this thread fairly civil. As long as it remains that way, it will remain open and free for further discussion.

Thanks!

was true in 2014, but today we dont really feel it, but anyway maybe you have less tool today than in 2014 and you are less experienced than tonka or minea

and i must admit than bhs doesnt really help you

I agree. I think the staff who works with Tera at EME have been downsized over the years so they can focus on other projects like Kritika. One of the big speculations is that EME can't do anything about Tera unless BHS allows them too. It would be nice to know what sort of tools or powers EME has and what changes they're allowed to make. That way we as a community would know for certain who we can hold accountable for negligence and incompetence. I'm not defending EME, but if they can't do anything they should just say "yeaaa we can't do that but we can suggest it to our superiors blah blah blah" which I'm sure they have in the past from time to time. But things like XC I know for sure is a BHS thing, I can pretty much guarantee if EME had power we wouldn't have XC.
Xigncode made some people quit, yeah... but it was never the main issue, anyone who really wanted to play TERA spent 3 minutes removing it and kept playing, but when a company makes a dozen changes in a row that nobody asks for or wants for no visible reason with little advance warning while completely ignoring their playerbase's repeated questions and concerns? yeah, that makes people leave.

Sure it wasn't the main issue, but this one was the final issue. I mean, I could put up with all the other stuff and I'd still be logging in today if it weren't for xigncode. Yea I could bypass it but I don't want to have to jump through hoops to be able to enjoy my entertainment.
Lapomko wrote: »
Make Xigncode detect all the users that bypassed it. Have a delayed ban that triggers in 1 week like vac for 100 years so they can pass their account to their grandchildren. I would laugh so much if they would actually do that.

Not sure if this is troll or not but this move would be detrimental to what's left of the game. Even though the current state EME put this game in is not healthy or very wise I still do not want to see the game die. This would be the permadeath of tera
Lol, well that's to good to know that you guys were "questioning their wisdom". For most of us, questioning their wisdom didn't stop with that drama. Like that time they said they were going to ban anyone using third party programs when more than half of the community was using proxy. Even though some people from the proxy group wanted to help EME fix things but EME ignored it, yea I questioned their wisdom there too. And XC, did nothing at all. More people using proxy now then ever before. Now a server merge.

That's good though, good to question their wisdom because if we continue to accept things as they are nothing will get better. We should hold them to a higher standard of quality. But how can we when they don't listen to us in the first place? It's kinda like how Lucasfilms ignores their fans and does what ever they want. EME doing the same thing they're doing
@counterpoint I was talking about the enchanting material cost leak from a certain content creator site that writes guides for Tera
IxWolfie wrote: »
I feel like if anything, this constant "EME is doing things wrong", is what makes people quit. You can be annoyed, you can point fingers, but you're not helping anyone by doing this. Attacking the only people who have a chance to save the game that you care about isn't going to help. Constantly going at the team and the game itself just isn't going to work. All you're doing is showing that our community morale is low, as stated above, and that alone can easily deter players.

That being said, I think people get easily lost on this point, and assume you're saying "stop pointing out what EME is doing wrong." But really, the point is just to keep a constructive tone. And that means, even if people are mad/frustrated/disappointed about the state of the game, to resist hyperbole, fabrications, unnecessary drama, and personal attacks. 90%+ of the time I argue against "criticism" on this forum, it's because of argumentative failures like that. Why? Because those types of poor arguments only hurt our chances at being listened to, and eliminating that kind of cruft puts into focus what the true problem is, and hopefully ways to solve it.

I realize a lot of people feel burnt out from "trying" to be constructive, but if you actually do care about the future of the game, you have to try to work with what we've got. At the same time, there are also a number of people on this forum who are just here for the schadenfreude of "watching the game die," and letting them define the tone is admitting defeat.

But you're player council. Shouldn't you be the one, by definition, to take our feedback, put them into a well structured argument and submit that to EME? Have you? Has anything ever been achieved by communicating our feedback to EME? I feel as if player council is just a title people want to wear to make themselves feel important while contributing nothing credible to the community what so ever. Where were you guys during the leak? Where were you guys during the XC controversy? Where are you guys now?
Too many people in this community fight against each other more than fight against the company. I don't mean flat out bashing them but saying "Hey, this is wrong, don't do this!". Instead, the ones who try to say it's wrong are met with other members of the community, white knights and council members, who counter argue the community opposed to critiquing the companies decisions. What's the point of having a player council if they're just shills anyway.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
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Xerses wrote: »
ZingoPingo wrote: »
Losing a few names for the sake of saving a dying game seems a fair price. It's gotta be annoying for the people who have lots of good names saved but holy heck the servers are dead and we all see it.

That's not how it works. Merging all the dead servers into one server is only going to make the game feel more dead after the dust settles. I remember a time where there were 8+ servers and they were all healthy with activity. This is nothing to rejoice about.

Sorry, that never was a thing. NA had 11 servers on may 2012 when it came to its official release and in 4 months they had to make their first server merge into 3 servers. A great failure of EME staff on those days and then on 2015 they made more servers because steam but again in only 3 months we got those servers empty tanks to the same EME staff that didnt act on time.

Those great TERA times some players try to presume never existed on the first place.

Every time you'd go to Velika, you could find more people in Velika in those days compared to what you'd see in an entire server these days so yes it was a thing. Look at Fey Forest for example. Combined from other dead servers, and is currently the most inactive server on the game. Even MT and TR are just an empty husk of what was once a great game.

But look at the bright side, some sad person out there who thinks this game is still alive is going to pick up some good names when all mine get wiped. It'll take a lot more than a server merge to bring me and my wallets back.
ZingoPingo wrote: »
Losing a few names for the sake of saving a dying game seems a fair price. It's gotta be annoying for the people who have lots of good names saved but holy heck the servers are dead and we all see it.

That's not how it works. Merging all the dead servers into one server is only going to make the game feel more dead after the dust settles. I remember a time where there were 8+ servers and they were all healthy with activity. This is nothing to rejoice about.
Im sure the company knows what is good or bad for Tera.

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remove xigncode and many of us will be "In Spired" to come back. Seeing this makes me miss my lancers
please do not reproduce. ty
Please fix tera so I can come back. Fix pvp, remove xigncode and this whale will come back again. I was one of the few who did not use proxy, though I'm not against it, nor meter. I miss you
tfw you leave this game months ago but stick around just to watch people in the forums [filtered] and moan about each other
this equitas guy trying to roast everybody. do me next. I want to hear about how I'm entitled and worthless and how my mom should have swallowed
I don't think EME will ever merge servers again and here's why. Once you begin to consolidate every server into one or two servers it would eliminate the need for character server transfers resulting in less money for the company. It could potentially create more support tickets and I doubt EME wants to deal with that. It could create a lack for need of character slots too which also means less money for them.

Not to mention, if everything is consolidated, more people will end up leaving over time and in about a year or so from now the combined servers would be less populated and we'd be right back here begging for another merge.

Combining servers on a low populated game will not make it more lively, in fact possibly kill it off even faster. What the game really needs is hype and not negative publicity like xigncode. It needs more marketing, better deals, more advertisement, better support, optimization tweaks, and I'd even support a pay to play system for $10-$15 a month.
What you're asking is really 50/50. IMHO, you should continue to try to play both. Both classes offer things the other class doesn't. Majority of people may request a mystic more often than priest which is fine, but people probably won't complain if you play a priest either. As far as survivalbility, that really comes down to how well you know your class and dungeons. I don't really play any pvp any more but back when FWC was not equalized I don't really think there was a preference either. I was always happy to have a healer regardless of what class it was.
MistyTera wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »

But oppa, I'm more Koreaboo. Weeaboo too mainstream

Oppa is a term that is used in Korean by a girl to call a man who is older than her. You people don't know anything, if you're all guys! It's called Google!



Thanks captain obvious.....majority of us don't need google to know what oppa is
Xerses wrote: »
how to spot a weeb
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And the one who knows what those are to point them out. :p

But oppa, I'm more Koreaboo. Weeaboo too mainstream
how to spot a weeb
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this was posted in discord before the xigncode patch. haven't seen him online since then xD
KitTeaCup wrote: »
Hi good news everyone!

The troubleshooting FAQ is up check it out here http://support.enmasse.com/tera/troubleshooting-tips-for-xigncode3#Bypass your router

@buffons here it is :)

seriously?
Just practice some more. They are the most annoying of the IoD bams. Learn to time your dodges
Tell me why im an idiot ?


Enmasse/BHS are not greedy.

Ippiki wrote: »
You have absolutely no bloody idea who I am.

You're a tide pod kid
Melyodis wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
cRAPPYGame wrote: »

A support employee is diferent than a GM stand for.

I thought you will quote Seandynamite, CobaltDragon or KitTeaCup.

I think we're missing the bigger point here. It doesn't matter if it was a GM or support. They're both representatives of EME. In your day to day business whether you work for yourself or you work for another company you'd never tell a customer to get lost which is essentially what was said in the quoted link. Then they go one step further and offer to delete your data. That sounds a bit rational and I wonder what exactly was said to them in the first place for them to respond that aggressively. Regardless, with that response from EME it's very obvious they want to kill Tera off now.

insert really long run on sentence that makes zero sense

What? Did you even click on the link and read what they wrote?
MistyTera wrote: »
FORGET IT!

B-but Misty! XINGCODE3 is such a good idea. Thanks to XIGNCODE I can finally enjoy tera without all the :b:roxy players or people shoving their dps meters down my throat.

I'm kidding. Just take a break bro, relax, try to find something else to play. I admire your dedication towards bringing some issues to light and respect and share your love for Tera but they're not going to roll back on this. Even if it would be one the best things they've ever done, EME has an ego to protect.
Sorry for hurting your feelings ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're right though, it's not as good as it currently is on console. It was better

On PC you could customize every button. Can't do that on console. Can't change the interact button, can't change the Jump button, can't change the mount button. That's just the small stuff though, it was so much easier to play every class on PC too. When you play something that's ping dependent like a Lancer or Warrior you'd feel the lag in the console version. On PC the hardest thing to do was lancer leash in pvp, or learn focus heals as mystic/priest but even then it wasn't that bad. The only thing they did that was good with the console version was the Radial Wheel for consumables and emotes, which again, if you knew how to change your layout on pc version you could easily set that up.

Also I'm not really sure by what you mean by you have a better console than me? Is that supposed to be a fanboy jab or something? I don't play that fanboy [filtered], I own both ps4 and xb1 and Tera equally sucks on both of them. Also if I'm saying Tera PC has better controller support and you supposedly have a better PC than me then you should know what I'm talking about.
Console port sucks for controller support, rotations lag, skill chains are slow. PC had much better controller support with no lag what so ever. Wtf u smoking
ElinUsagi wrote: »
cRAPPYGame wrote: »

A support employee is diferent than a GM stand for.

I thought you will quote Seandynamite, CobaltDragon or KitTeaCup.

I think we're missing the bigger point here. It doesn't matter if it was a GM or support. They're both representatives of EME. In your day to day business whether you work for yourself or you work for another company you'd never tell a customer to get lost which is essentially what was said in the quoted link. Then they go one step further and offer to delete your data. That sounds a bit rational and I wonder what exactly was said to them in the first place for them to respond that aggressively. Regardless, with that response from EME it's very obvious they want to kill Tera off now.
It's simple. The population for the console version is dying down. I play on what I assumed was a well populated pvp server, or at least it was well populated a month ago. You could log in around the afternoon to evening and there were so many people in hw I would sometimes crash. I just logged in and there were only 12 people in hw. Sucks but tera doesn't have much replay value after you hit end game. I did notice a small increase during the double vanguard weekend but this weekend it's like a ghost town all over again
KitTeaCup wrote: »
Here's the latest update that's going to be added to the upcoming FAQ.

Players that play on college networks may be facing issues due to the firewalls. More details to come, but it's been notified to Wellbia.

Wellbia is aware of this issue and is working on a solution (ETA TBD) but this is an example of players collaborating with us and Wellbia to improve the experience. Yay teamwork!

I'll make sure to keep letting everyone know what's coming up, and how this type of feedback is the answer! :)

But like...players who are studying are not your whales, they do not spend that much on the game, they are not the people who typically spend 4++ hours a day playing. They have lives while people like me do not
KitTeaCup wrote: »
XIGNCODE3 bypass

I see what you did there
KitTeaCup wrote: »
@CassandraTR As the newbie, I need a little more context.

Could you please specify what the fashion coupons were for and what shop updates do you mean?

Thanks!

Why is EME appointing people as CM who don't know what a fashion coupon is? Then ask the community to tell you what they are? o_O

I'd like to see everything put back into the store which was recently removed too
been almost a week now without any responses from eme so I guess that is their way of saying it is our way or no way, get over it.

On a better note, can not wait to play Anthem, Spider-man, Red Dead 2, and a list full of other good games coming out soon. Kingdom Hearts 3 hype, TLOU 2, Days Gone, Skull and Bones(shits on Sea of Thieves), Ghost of Tsushima, Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed(which does not look interesting at all but will play just for the name) Gears 5, Halo Infinite. There are so many great games coming and best of all none of them are tied to EME or BHS
If they are cm they're pretty lousy at their job. It reminds me of what 343 did to halo and how they only hired people who didn't like halo and killed that franchise. Or how disney and kathleen kennedy ruined star wars. All the original people at eme left and they got all these new sjws like spacecats for example and slowly killing tera with these asinine ideas like xingading
RandomElin wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »
I feel like the reason why this(XINGCODE) is more accepted in Korea is because a lot of people who play may play from Internet Cafes. They don't own an actual pc, or they do but it's just for business or educational purposes and not for hobbies like gaming. Where as here in North America pretty much every home in the country has access to a personal computer and we're more protective over what gets installed on our devices. It's just a huge difference in culture between Korea and NA.

Not here to argue with anyone, it's just an idea. An idea which I'm strongly against. I wonder what EME thought was going to happen. Did they think we'd just lie down and accept it? Or did they foresee the backlash that was to come? If they did foresee it, did they do anything to try to stand up against this for their customers? Many questions left unanswered and EME has been way too silent about this.

My theory is that EME was pressured into adding xigncode.

More than likely you're very correct. I want to believe that some people at EME think with their head and knew this was not going to be a good idea. If you think about it too, with spacecats being gone, and no other CM taking his place, we no longer have an ambassador figure to communicate with us. Even though he would have received a ton of hate about this, he still would have said something by now. The forums would have roasted him...which is why they're probably avoiding us. I myself am even guilty of lashing out against some of the authority figures at this company but you know what you sign up for as CM.
I feel like the reason why this(XINGCODE) is more accepted in Korea is because a lot of people who play may play from Internet Cafes. They don't own an actual pc, or they do but it's just for business or educational purposes and not for hobbies like gaming. Where as here in North America pretty much every home in the country has access to a personal computer and we're more protective over what gets installed on our devices. It's just a huge difference in culture between Korea and NA.

Not here to argue with anyone, it's just an idea. An idea which I'm strongly against. I wonder what EME thought was going to happen. Did they think we'd just lie down and accept it? Or did they foresee the backlash that was to come? If they did foresee it, did they do anything to try to stand up against this for their customers? Many questions left unanswered and EME has been way too silent about this.
I just want to say thanks for this update EME. I haven't realized how much fun I was missing out on Monster Hunter World. Been farming Lunastra along with collecting golden weapons from the Kulve Taroth raids. I also installed a new free to play game on playstation 4 called Dungeon Defenders 2 which has been really fun. I even purchased some loot boxes on DD2, I know you know how much I've enjoyed my loot boxes over the years. Sucks, we could have been spending the weekend together like old times. Oh whale

Had this really long response written out comparing Wellbia to other anti cheat programs like Battleye and how they all send files from your IP to a master server and permanently store them and how social engineering is involved both positively and negatively. I did research on how everything works with these anti cheat programs and how bad it potentially can affect your pc and had all these screenshots and links ready to post. I had screenshots and links to errors of xigncode, had links of how easily it's "bypassed" and how useless it is. I did research on how other games are manipulated and what those companies do to combat cheating and compared those major companies like Blizzard and blah blah blah. But who cares, what's done is done.

Even though the game also used Unreal Engine 3 and was poorly optimized I was looking forward to playing A:IR. It looked fun as hell. After this, no bueno. I really don't want to bash BHS, I've loved their game for years. But this seems like a lazy, cowardly, egotistical, not to mention temporary. resolution to a permanent.
Hi everyone,

I’m sorry it’s taken me so long to get you a response to the initial topic for this thread... which is... as I see it... why XIGNCODE. I get it. It sucks. But cheating sucks more. No cheating fix is perfect, but we felt like we had to do something about it, and Wellbia, who are a reputable company who have been working on solving this sort of issue for numerous games (including TERA in other regions) was the best partner that we could find. They and we aren’t spying on you. We aren’t trying to steal your data (in fact, you’ll have just seen our updated privacy terms that we’re ensuring XIGNCODE complies with as well). We’re just trying to ensure that all battlegrounds and epic quests take place on a figurative level field.

I think that makes for a playing experience that is more fun. So, I’m behind this change because it's to improve everyone's experience overall. Our CS team is ready and willing to help you sort out any problems caused by this change so reach out if you need to.

I’m going to close this thread and ask that if you want to have a productive conversation about the situation at hand, I and my teammates are happy to talk, but where this thread is going, I’m not allowing this to go any further.

I look forward to hearing what you have to say.

And then there's this....

KitTeaCup is probably new here at EME, they joined in April, plays on Fey Forest. They probably have not invested as much time throughout their life as we have on Tera. I doubt they understand why the community took it upon themselves to implement the proxy as a fix to some of the optimization issues this game presents. It sucks. Cheating sucks more. Investing so many hours and thousands of dollars into a game without seeing any real support or improvements sucks even more than cheating. And for the 100th time all this issue does is bring more light to the third party programs, shooting your own self in the foot as a company. The proxy devs even tried to colab with EME to fix the memeslash exploit but were ignored and or banned. That kinda goes to show that they weren't entirely out to break the game and just wanted the game to be improved as well. But blah blah blah no one cares, EME ego too big, BHS ego too big, ban me idc I've uninstalled one less tank in game, one less salty forum troll.

For the record I'm not salty about KitTeaCup, they're only doing their job. Just wish more people at EME would do their job more often. Counterpoint over here doing community service for EME while they hide in their safe spaces. Give that man a salary.
the game's running like [filtered] on ps4. refuse to play on pc
Meter still works.....
One thing not listed above is the theory that Xigncode shortens the life your ssd/hd. Along with all the scanning and data mining it seems like a sketchy tool. You can say I'm wearing a tinfoil hat or w/e but this [filtered] is sketchy. They may claim it only scans things that are malicious programs registered in their database but after the whole facebook thing recently can you seriously take their word for it?
LOL wut. If anything I was more or less complimenting counterpoint for everything he's done but ok, you're entitled to your own opinion. Counterpoint probably does more for EME than any of the other mods. This thread was going to get locked as of page 20. EME can't stand negative criticism and will let this die out and say nothing and address nothing and fix nothing. I'm not going to lose any sleep if I'm temp banned/perma banned. Who wants to stick around and play a poorly optimized game anyway. I loved this game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And for the years I've been here, every time I've seen this one it's reminded me of @counterpoint
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This guys literally knows everything and will argue til his fingers have blisters. Truly living up to his name, Counterpoint
waaaahhhhh someone disagrees with me on the internet waaahhhhhh

@Equitas
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Step 1. why when I can only play one at a time
Step 2. only need around 410 to do any of the current patches content up to RMHM
Step 3. again, not needed.
Step 4. pvp is dead in this game
Step 5. you only need to play for one hour a day in order to profit a lot if you know what you're doing
Step 6. Still bored ? go play other games

Then again, today is your lucky day! Thanks to the upcoming patch on pc it's probably going to dwindle down the population on pc resulting in more dev attention being focused on console maybe? So maybe they'll roll out patches faster on console but who knows. I'll personally be going back to FFXIV and catching up with what's new there. Tera is always the same grind every new patch.

Tera has and always will be the type of game you play for 1-2 months tops and you're done. You've geared up, either full +12 or full +15 set, geared your alts, nothing else to do. Play another game til new patch comes, come back to tera, gear up again, wash rinse repeat.
Christin wrote: »
Just get your accounts/alts ready for retirement and play something else. I know people have put years into this, but seriously, there's plenty of other entertainment out there.

+1
It's not their game and I'm sure if EME had their way things would be different. They've always waited til a few hours prior to patches to release patch notes. They never give official response to major issues like the Xigncode thing. More than likely they're bound by a contract and can't say anything until they get an approval from BHS.

Another thing about releasing patch notes is that if you release them way before update time it could make or break an in game economy. It could give certain people an unfair advantage. People would bicker on the forums, it'd be drama.
xigncode3 is not, by any measure, an effective piece of software. the only people it will stop from logging in to tera are legitimate players (false positives are common), and when those players fail to login, do you think they're going to contact support and wait 3 days to login after uninstalling unrelated software, or google a fix and start cheating so they can play in 5 minutes?

The problem with the "false positives are common" argument, in terms of convincing EME, is because they already use this now on all their other games and PUBG (where they provide the support). PUBG has millions of players, so whatever issues there are with this tool, they already know them by now. They are deciding to add this knowing what they're getting into, including from a support point of view.

Again, I do not agree with adding this software particularly because it seems to be entirely ineffective, but I still don't think they are anticipating a high level of customer technical problems compared to what they already went through.

I just don't really see an upside, even from eme's point of view.. the downside is that there are possible (let's be honest, likely) technical problems involved, added vulnerability to customers (xigncode is fairly easily subverted by other nefarious programs), it compounds the already mountainous pile of performance problems... The upside is that... uhm... well, you will probably have a harder time faking client-side gold that can't even be spent?

Tbh there's only one potential upside..no rmt/gold sellers spamming in Velika or Highwatch
DeusFurta wrote: »
Splitting this thread into multiple is probably not a good idea
It's distracting and we don't have any way to express our disapproval except with massive forum threads it seems.

This is an all around [filtered] situation. Yeah there's a bypass but nothing about that fact will keep EME from releasing it. They can't confirm that it can be bypassed until someone shits on their game and proves to them that it did nothing. Unfortunately doing that means more exploits.

I really wish they would take a step back and see that yeah people want less exploits but they don't want a useless change that again will do nothing to solve the problem. I would say perhaps they will add it then remove it when it doesn't work but that not how these kinds of things happen. If Xigncode is added tomorrow it will never be removed, as a matter of a fact Enmasse has probably already signed a contract with Wellbia so there probably nothing we can do about it anyways. So yeah great job asking your community if they want this, you probably would have just ninja'd it into the patch without telling us if it hadn't been leaked.

I'm aware of a few individuals who will have it bypassed as soon a their launcher patches. Whether or not they record it or not is up to them. But there's always one or two of those brave souls out there who post it right to youtube or in some of the discords.

It's like...in the year of time that proxy has been an issue they could have taken that years worth of time and fixed it properly. Changing OP codes and using Xingcode is a temporary fix to a permanent problem within Tera. Hell some of the proxy devs even offered to help fix some of the issues and tried to contact a dev team at EME and BHS. Sadly they were met with perma bans and nothing got fixed and here we are
And it's like this Xigncode thing will do nothing in terms of preventing third party programs. There was talk about using Xigncode last year when the third party program stuff came to light. Shortly after the rumors of Xigncode, people began to find out how to bypass it and still use proxy and meters. It doesn't really change a thing.

All they had to do was optimize their game and it would have prevented all of this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
it wasn't meant as a popularity contest and I'm convinced that there's only around 29 people who even come to the forums anymore. About to be 28
Petition? No. Popularity contest? What...

You and I both know the mods are not going to go through this thread. They removed the dislike feature after the Harmonia fiasco because they cannot take negative criticism. This thread itself has more than enough constructive replies about why we don't want this and all we get is this?
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My thread was meant as a way for people to show how much they dislike the recent idea by clicking a button instead of making the mods waste time and go through 30 pages text. As I said, we both know they're not going to care what we have to say. I even left the link to this thread in my post so people wouldn't debate there xD
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