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@YKPDEWNARE said:
Rip servers 2k20

It is the same everywhere every year.
Years change, [filtered] remains the same.

@MatrixOfLeaders said:
Just wait, in a day or two, there will be entitled american kids creating "We need compensation " threads....

It's not like some people have limited time due to work while paying for elite right?
Also, funny you mention americans when it's basically an international server.

Still can't login.
Outstanding work. It's not like this ever happens.
It's good for companies people enjoy being treated poorly and like wallets.

@MELH9GLX5R said:

@counterpoint said:
Glad it was fixed. In case it happens to anyone else, if you're stuck on the server screen and can't enter any server, it usually means you're missing a patch. Worse case, if restarting the launcher doesn't fix it, you might need to delete the Live2-launcher.version file from your install folder to force the launcher to self-update. Otherwise, you could have a problem connecting to a bad patch server, and you should probably send a ticket so they can find the culprit.

I did several methods you posted in other locations and it didn't work out, what to do ? support does not help unfortunately.. Glad if you can help me counter.


It's from 2018...

@VictoriaKeat said:
What my problem with this is, is that there are no updates. Twitter is quiet, even though the game is still broken (just tried to log in, stuck on loading screen with no loading bar). There are no updates on the forums and we all just sitting waiting, with no idea what is happening or what to expect on the time. The "issues are fixed now" about 40 minutes ago are a joke. Also, why are the servers still up if there is an issue? Take the servers down and fix the issue, so people don't try to log in and run to the forums to figure out whats going on.

The forums are a joke.
If you'd like any updates that aren't given by the player council, I'd recommend discord.

Seems like an accurate description.

@Maldicion159 said:
I mean there should be a clientside option to filter swears
dunno about completely removing colorful language

I agree.
However, I see no issue with a few curses.

@Christin said:

@Maldicion159 said:

@Christin said:

@Maldicion159 said:

@Christin said:

@SaphirKanzaki said:
I started playing an idle game on iOS. So whenever I have a little waiting time during the workday, I click on it. The ingame shop is quite optimistic. Monthly substription up to 28€, single payments up to 100€. I'm not paying this as this is an "idle game" (per definition).

Let's turn this around. Every game is something you do for relaxing in your free time. And everything does cost money, even when playing basketball you need shoes or pay a club to play indoors. Now compare how much you're willing to spend for your free time.

For me, Tera is still one of my cheapest hobbies. Even hiking does cost more (smartphone app, equipment, hotel, transfer, etc.). When I was shooting firearms, costs did explode due to ammo prices. Even meeting friends, having dinner and some drinks in a bar is going fast up for just one evening.

The trick is to look at the own budget and compare your recreational spendings. It's up to you, if Tera is worth it.
Because unlike other games, in Tera you can farm gold and still get EMP. We still can buy shop items from other players.

First off, your examples give you far greater benefits than Tera ever will. Most of the other stuff you mention will make you more fit and learning to shoot a gun irl I'd say is more important than playing some online game.

So, you like to throw cash at your passive hobby, great for you. However, I'd say most people want to invest cash into a game they know will be around for a while and where the publisher at least pretends to care. I do love how you explain down to us about how much going out costs and so on, but you're missing most of the point. I've played plenty of other online games, and EME is one of the greediest companies I have ever seen. Mostly all dyeable versions of their costumes and mounts with benefits come in loot boxes that people have spent hundreds on trying to get something rare. Their system is beyond sad, tremendously greedy and simply gets old; all while EME calls players "spoiled" and tells them they don't even want to bother with a Community Manager, because Tera players simply don't deserve one.

I mean it's hard to tell which is stupider, the playerbase or the company.
I can kind of empathize with EME for how bloody spoiled the playerbase is (not by EME, granted), how little it appears they know about the game, and how little influence they would have over its direction even if they did know what is up. I feel like the people who knew anything about TERA left a long time, the original devs probably got sacked, most EME is probably different by now, and LOL I'm in the process of cashing out so I can log back on after the ingame economy has inevitably crashed and I can be rich. I expect everyone who's rich to continue to spend money like they're used to after it crashes so eventually I'll be rich in comparison.

Well, good luck with that. I sold a bunch of stuff and can't even be bothered to log back in to waste it on lootboxes like I had planned. I do blame EME, because they pretty much give us all the middle finger and tell us straight up that they don't want to bother with the community. Give them your cash then stfu. Just like how they can't even be bothered to play the game, moderate anything or even seem to care about any of it. Just more evidence that they know something we don't know and don't want to bother on a game they know has no future or hope.

Maybe they do have a high turnover rate, but that is just another reason to move on already. The only thing keeping most players there is the fishing and that will only last until people whine and cry enough for them to get rid of afk fishing to force players back into playing dungeons. Of course that won't work, so yeah, it will be interesting.

I can't blame them for not wanting to bother with the community

Well, golden gift boxes are out (I think) so now, people can throw their cash at those. Maybe after a grand or two, you to can get that new mount to fly in Exodor! LOL

It's adorable how a problem was created to later sell the solution.
Typical...

@7GLN367E64 said:
p.s. to the guy/team at eme that saw the berserk class and did nothing i really hope and wish your wife, kids, family all die such a horrible death that after a few months of mental break down you'll kill yourself <3.

Yikes, wishing the death of people due to an online game.
What a time to be alive.
If you're displeased enough to wish them anything, wish the company bankruptcy.
And leave their poor families out of it.
Jesus [filtered] Christ.

Must be a feature.
Perhaps that information will be in a loot box in the future
Chuckle

To answer your question in the simplest way possible.
1. Proxy is a 3rd party program. Skill prediction is not a VPN and it will not reduce your ping.
However, skill prediction will help players with high ping greatly.
2. As long as you use ethical modules, it's tolerated by EME.
3. The forums is not a recommended place at all to talk about this. I recommend asking around on discord.

@counterpoint said:

Ultimately, if people really want to send a message, they have to stop buying lootbox items at all even with gold. But yeah, I guess odds of that happening are pretty slim, so...

Indeed.

@Terraforming said:
I opened 48 Emulator lootboxes (5300 EMP worth) and all I have to show for it are completely useless Metamorphic Emblems (why is this even in the prize pool?). Why is there no transparency regarding the odds with these boxes? Seriously this Black Friday "sale" feels more like a Black Friday SCAM.

I agree the rates should be disclosed.
However, seriously, if the rates were anywhere near decent the companies wouldn't be afraid to reveal it.

@RonLaw said:
Why did you buy any?

Exactly.

Wasn't aware of this.
Thanks for pointing it out.
Have a mystic I'd like to level.

I believe it's at 3am my time.
(UTC-03:00) No daylight saving.

Seems it was a system error. -Edit-

My my, it is just a coincidence that it started happening after a maintenance.
It is always, I'm afraid, the ISP's fault.

@Christin said:
Yeah, most players just want to have fun, and lately, everything really has been for the extreme end gamers. Granted, there are a lot of extreme end gamers out there, but the majority of players are casual players that see this game as an endless grind. No doubt they are simply overwhelmed even if they get to 65 and call it quits. I think if I had started recently, I would just move on to. That entire card system is ridiculous along with experience points, item xp, partners, and all of the rest of that nonsense. Having level 68 gear (no matter if it's good or not) be 250g is just so beyond pathetic and sad. New players try to buy needed weapons and see a flood of 68 gear sold as though it is trash. How did Krafton not know that this is how it was going to be? Gear is still sellable even though they acted as though the new update was going to solve the problem of players just buying their way through everything. They made it seem like players were going to have to grind for their own gear. So, really nothing has changed except that the green gear is thrown around like trash, and soon, the blue gear will follow. Just shocking really.

Well, after all these years of bad decisions, etc...
It's clear they don't play their own game. So how would they know?

Just make people grind new gear and buy new innerwear.
For myself looks like: "Let's keep pushing, see how far we can go."
On the other hand, let's see if that feedback will actually have any value.

At any rate, what's done is done.
Guess we can all "enjoy" this pinnacle of disgrace patch.

That's because the new patch sucks [filtered] and swallows!
Seriously, never saw anything bad like this in almost 6 years.

Basically, it's like being a customer at a restaurant.
You like the restaurant and goes there often.
Now, the dessert is expensive and tastes bad.
You give feedback.
Next time you purchase the dessert, it's still expensive and it still tastes bad.
You already purchased, disliked and gave feedback.
What's the use in complaining you're unsatisfied if you keep purchasing it?

@fromsector7 said:

@MargaretRose said:

@Fainall said:
I bought ONE of those new stupidly priced loot boxes and got 4 niveots out of it....seriously 3 bucks for a stupid loot box and this is what is in it? NO, just no. I am not buying one single loot box more if that crap is in there. And why are loot boxes 3 bucks each now???? That is just too much.


Very good.
Now we only require more players to speak with their wallets.
Unfortunately, the only language companies seem to understand.

"companies" need money ... They do not live on miracles. Video games are not a right, it is a luxury. enjoy the reality

And we're not walking credit cards, we're customers.
Right? Nothing is a right. Even basic supplies have to be earned.
I "enjoy" reality everyday, thank you.

@Fainall said:
I bought ONE of those new stupidly priced loot boxes and got 4 niveots out of it....seriously 3 bucks for a stupid loot box and this is what is in it? NO, just no. I am not buying one single loot box more if that crap is in there. And why are loot boxes 3 bucks each now???? That is just too much.


Very good.
Now we only require more players to speak with their wallets.
Unfortunately, the only language companies seem to understand.


Finally some good old fashion drama.

@fromsector7 said:
i get 4 slot bank , i hav 4 character with 5 special storage each one and another 4 character with 1 special storage totally free .

Good for those of us that are veteran players.
How is a new player supposed to have those?

@Maldicion159 said:
Pretty much what's the point of trying?

That's exactly the point, trying.
Worst the rates, longer people play.
It's been a common trait on MMO's.

Honestly, players do not respect themselves.
Why should the companies do so?

@counterpoint for CM 2020!

@Charismatic666 said:
For me, it would have to be Baldera.

Amused how they make new places and do not explore that place on new patches.

@Erulogos said:

@39HATFDXLY said:
We need more ecchi armors~

I agree, that's why I want to know if these will be staying or not.

Welcome to Tera.
Hope you enjoy your stay.

@glennbryan19 said:
Well Name selling has always been a wonder way to get a unique and better name. than sale it to someone who is willing to pay well. I choose isocialhub.net and this has been the best investment for me.

@39HATFDXLY said:
we all miss spacekatsu, does kitteacup play? lol

btw this thread is really old, but I really would love to see him play CM again or at least login, he was a fun person to be around

In that case, I'd like to see Tonka as CM again.

@Melyodis said:

@SupreMExDFULL said:
The Krafton development team is conducting a survey. This is your chance to provide us with feedback on the latest TERA update—Aerial Island—as well as your thoughts on some of TERA's core features. Click here to get started.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FJK6WKJ

rain relentless sabot

What i want to know if this is truly legit survey from krafton why didn't it come from an official post from EME that's what i want to know?

cause all the feed over years was a waste of time look where we reach now in this game and this survey looks just same a waste of time.

tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/this-week-in-tera-oct-28-nov-3

It's EME.
The forums do not exist.

@glennbryan19 said:
Ahan this looks amazing, what i want to see is that netflix is an amazing way to get those things sorted out. You can get free netflix account from this Spacecats netflix blog.

@Liverneck said:
I have this "Error fff0:0000" problem now also since the Oct 29 patch they did on tuesday. Tried the repair in the launcher a few times.

I also tried running the game in windows 10 and windows 7, both gave the same error. Closed down all antiviruses, all graphics overlays like msi/riva and still won't load. The game crashes at startup and gives that error. My win 10 and 7 use different display driver versions and all round are very different so the problem isn't the OS, its something inside the game folder that is crashing it which repair should fix if there was a corrupt file?

I have another old PC with the game on it which I haven't updated for several months, I may try that if have some extra bandwidth but can't spend several gigs to test that out right now. I don't have that KB4515384 installed either.

This game is a total mess, I have no idea how its still profitable to keep running.

Suggest copying the tera folder to the old pc in that case.

Regarding profit, I'd presume loot boxes.

I see.
Did you disable windows game mode?

Did you try setting/increasing your virtual memory?
Seemed to help in my case.
Albeit most likely placebo.

@LancerJiva said:
Actually it’s the devs / publisher that’s killing the game and driving the players away with chore like content and same rinse and repeat events.

FYI, contesting your claims/points of view are not an insult.

@MidokuPasta said:
I got to level 70 in a week and never once did I do caimens. I also started at level 1 and played 5 hours a day with no events running. It's really not that hard.

How many hours did you play per day?

@Aluh said:
Sure, and i`m santa claus.

^ This.

@fromsector7 said:
one week of the new update and only complain...

My my, please share the highlights of the update.

@Concepcion30 said:

@counterpoint said:

@Concepcion30 said:
But now I have another problem. I had hit the auto log in button, and now it doesn't give me the option to switch to my other account. I'm so tired of it all!

If you click on the Krafton icon in the top-left corner, you'll find the log out option. Then you can switch accounts.

Well thank God for Counterpoint. I must have got the new support guy on the job who suggested that I switch emails to prevent my account from auto logging in, which didn't work of course. Oi, now to switch emails back.

Wow... seriously?

counterpoint should be paid~
Just saying.

@fromsector7 said:
just install ms c++ . .. it is not a science to do it again

@kori83 said:
Given that the Enchanting Event just ended, no changes to %success for upgrading is going to happen for months.

You're better off pushing to 68 (assuming you can find the motivation - I for one, can't) and getting the new Uncommon/Rare gear...
Let's face it, Stormcry and HO will be eventually phased out (ie. left behind to rot. )
That's the whole intention of this patch

Just have to fish your soul away to 68.

"This box features two brand new partners not available anywhere else"
Not misleading at all right?

Totally not a new feature hinting you should uninstall~

Cough
At least mention the OS for possible troubleshoots.

@Fainall said:
Not to mention the fact they chose the worst time of day ever to have him show up. Right at dinner/homework/spend time with your family peak hours. It's like they don't want us to even participate.

There comes a time in life when one must ask themselves what is more important:
Food, studies and family or TERA?
There's only one simple logical answer to that.

Cough TERA Cough

/Sarcasm

@RonLaw said:
Sure brings back memories of grinding for Alkahest, Feedstock, Enigmatic & Spellbind! Lot of crying back then too.

I see what you did there.
Well done indeed.

We were graced with the presence of EME staff at the forums!
Yesterday will be a memorable day.
Tear of joy


Am I the only one finding this oddly messed up?

I mean, you add 2 more Gourdo's at the back and you have a questionable meme.

@Naru2008 said:
To run Tracert, do the following;

Go to start, search CMD and press Enter, type "tracert -d diag.enmasse.com", then press enter. When it's finished running, Copy-Paste the trace to the email.

@counterpoint

@Christin said:
I just love how they try so hard to fill up our banks and inventory with all of this junk. Every update brings more and more to fill our banks with. They are so obvious with it to. Cards don't even stack and all kinds of new gear along with enchant materials to take up space. New players must just feel so overwhelmed when they start and see how far they need to go. Everything is so rng in this game. Can't even have an event without making all of the prizes pretty much rng. The constant gambling does get a bit old after a while.

From someone that also plays Closers, it seems the idea is:
The more [filtered] clogging your inventory, the more tempted you'll be to spend money on inventory/bank slots.
Regarding rng... I mean, even information from EME tends to be rng.
And we know Koreans love rng like a druggy loves their drugs.


Thanks, I needed the laugh.
Honestly, wasn't this expected?

Oh my.
Seems like the "classic" routing issue.

Saving counterpoint a bit of time~

@counterpoint said:
The only thing you can do is to send your traceroute to diag.enmasse.com and diagnostic info to [email protected], and hope that with enough correlation of data, they can tell their service provider exactly where the problem is.

From this thread: https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/comment/281225#Comment_281225

Well, was already stated EME is understaffed.
So... yeah...
At this point it's most likely like this:

EME:
"We got some feedback regarding the new patch from our players."

BHS (Krafton):

@Christin said:

@LoadedGamer said:
I had to run a repair to fix it one time because every time game loaded it would crash with fff0:0000, after repair game launched fine, but I will still get the error when switching chars the game will crash but then loads right back up without another repair.

Yeah, It was always when I was changing characters to.

Had this happen as well.


Guess I should be thankful they ruined that too.
Gives myself less reasons to login.

Feeling no motivation to play the new content?
My, you're just the person we're looking for!
Join us today at the Angler Fishing Association!

@PP597W94LA said:
players should be expecting some "Complete Guide" Skywatch: Aerial Island to start playing the new patch =) =) =) =) <3

I'll take the uninstall guide.

Seriously? We're expected to start crafting a new rod if we'd like to have those?

@fromsector7 said:

@5WG9CLR9R4 said:
Thanks for the valuable input fromsector7

if tera run in a pc amd athlon x3 - 4gb ram . ati 6350 2gb ram ddr3 to 50fps ....THAT is a pc master race.

Glad it plays well on your PC.

@donutsenpai said:
those 2 little boxes that appear look like:
AHH more ways to drain our money away

=P

@RonLaw
Ty for sharing!

Huh... now that you mention it, I haven't received any emails from EME for a while now.

@counterpoint
Do we also need to mark the "I want to receive promotional material from En Masse" box?
Thought it was unrelated to actual news and meant like EMP promotions or something of the sort.


Doot! Doot!

@Ximinott said:

@allofspaceandtime said:
I would think that using magic in general be it white or dark magic would leech the color from your hair and turn it white. people think of good magic as the color white and the color black associated with dark magic from the whole good and evil concept. kinda like the good guys wore a white cowboy hat and the bad guys wore black cowboy hats. pertaining the the game of tera, your hair doesn't change due to using magic, nor does the hair color represent the type of magic being used.

Ok thanks, i soón get banned,so i thank you be4 the ban.

Instance match has been difficult for dps for years.
Usually a fast queue with a healer/tank.

Elitism 101:
1. Kicking players that do not know mechanics nor basic english.
2. Kicking players with incorrect crystals.
3. Kicking players without damage. (No dps meter required, able to notice if, for example, a sorcerer is casting fireball continuously.)
4. Kicking players unable to tank.
5. Kicking players unable to heal.
6. Etc.
Basically, just spend 1h+ in a single dungeon for a possible disband.

Been there, done that.
Not everyone is obligated to carry.

@Ballistixz said:
well i bought the 2200 bundle for the gem crates, but NOW the [filtered] things arnt even in the store anymore!!! what happened? they are suppose to be there till the 15th. I wanted to try and get atleast full SC+0 before this event was over.

Well, that's what happens when you support a crap company.
Wonder if that'll be censored.

At any rate, recommend you contact support.
Tera support staff is actually quite good from experience.
Might be able to receive a reimburse.


It's like beating a dead horse at this point.

"Tera Toolbox is the pathway to many modules."

"Is it possible to learn this method?"

"Not at the forums."

It's fairly simple.
Control Panel -> Programs and Features
Select TERA Online and click the Uninstall button.

Mockeries aside...
You click the Krafton/EME logo at the top left corner of the launcher.


I'm honestly unsure.
Do you only complain if you're affected directly?
Otherwise everything is fine?

P.S. @counterpoint
All my friends were shadow banned.
Do I have to post gratuitous gore to be so too?

Agreed.
Thanks.

@counterpoint said:
The hard turn from leveling content to endgame and community expectations therein has been a constant problem with this game that's partly on the developers and partly on the veteran player community. There's a very heavy "you should already know what you're doing so you're not wasting our time" vibe, but most casual players are not going to go out and Google all these guides, videos, and other references so they can not make any mistakes on their first try. Most people just queue for end-game content the way they queued for leveling dungeons along the way and find suddenly that all the expectations changed. Even if they had managed to get into PvP, it has many of the same issues. This is basically what keeps the endgame experience something only for the core players -- the people who will go out of their week to seek out the information and "get good" so they can keep playing the game.

Of course the game also added a bunch of solo content and other things to do, but for people who primarily enjoy playing dungeons (it seems this player primarily leveled via dungeons), it's basically the end of the road if they're not willing to invest. The fact that they also released the level cap increase without a corresponding new zone/quest structure (as they did in the FoA expansion) also makes it less accessible to casual players, and they're either forced into endless grinding or again, dungeons, which have the aforementioned problem. The new zone they're adding now doesn't entirely help because it starts at level 68 and requires you to be geared up a fair ways, so you still have to bridge that gap on your own.

In any event, the video is a fair presentation of this person's experiences while playing the game, and while I don't think those experiences will apply to everyone, it's fair to say that it will apply to some people, and some of these problems are really difficult to change at this point. (For example, no matter what they do now to make endgame more welcoming to casual players, you're not going to easily change the attitude of the existing veteran players that's grown over years of passive reinforcement.)

Believe that's mostly meant metaphorically.
Anyone playing long enough is aware changes will most likely never happen.

Would be surprised if I'm mistaken.

@counterpoint said:

@Christin said:

@counterpoint said:

@TJKat said:

@counterpoint said:
it doesn't say much that I'm doing better than a team that no longer exists.

On the contrary. I think it says a lot that they no longer have a community team, and have dumped all that on a volunteer.

Honestly, if they had to start over now, there probably wouldn't even be a forum anymore and they'd just direct everyone to Discord instead. Times have changed.

The forums comprise the majority of EME's Google presence, so not sure why they'd want to rely on Discord so much. New players are looking to Google to find information and updated guides.

Well, play guides notwithstanding (that you find more on fansites), they're putting more troubleshooting information (and some simpler guides) in their Knowledgebase now, so that way answers to common Google questions still get found. (For example, they have a guide to the companion system.) They have someone on staff now whose job (among other things) is maintaining this Knowledgebase for all EME games. Right now they still use the forums for patch notes and some news posts, but I think honestly this is mostly for convenience of editing. This could maybe be moved to the website proper or the Knowledgebase as well. Besides that, even without an official forum, places like Reddit continue to exist.

I'm not saying that they're going to get rid of the forum anytime soon, but at the same time it wouldn't surprise me if it eventually ended up there. A number of newer games simply don't have official publisher forums anymore. Forums (Reddit aside) are becoming relics of the past.

As soon as yourself and @StarSprite stop posting/replying at the forums, might as well close it.

Accurate...

I fully agree with you.
But, unfortunately, it's profitable.
So it will not change.

@TJKat said:

@Fainall said:
I am not sure sitting at your comp doing 75 dungeons over 3 weeks to get a mount is actually something to brag about.

^^This.

Sugar coating it with words like "hardest of the hardcore" and "most dedicated" players doesn't suddenly make it an admirable achievement. "Saddest of the sad" and "most addicted" players seems more appropriate.

I mean, it's not like it will later be released in a loot box like mentioned previously.
So it's a sense of accomplishment.
Right?

Like the actual satisfaction of hunting world bosses for months only to have them nerfed so bad anyone can do it within a few days.
Or dungeons that get nerfed to the ground while still having obtainable titles.
Right?

What a marvelous "new" launcher we got.

@Christin said:
At least the thread title clearly describes this thread, so good job OP.

It's not that people can't pay, they just don't want to pay. So, instead, they'll gripe about the loot boxes even existing in the first place, because heaven forbid someone out there is actually interested in paying for something.

I see all of these posts complaining about this or that, but then what? So you event your way to level 70 in a day or two, and then what? So you get HO+3 gear and fully upgraded accessories, but then what?

If you all got to level 70 and enchanting gear was easy, you'd be right in here complaining about how easy everything is. There are so many level 70 players now with fully upgraded everything to make me think it's really not as tough as everyone says it is.

They've dumped loads of talents into the economy from lootbox and other events. If they want to offer up solutions for the people that simply want to pay cash for stuff, good for them. They aren't a charity, and it's not their responsibility to make everything easy for people that refuse to pay for anything. If you don't want to pay, you surely don't have to but expect to grind. Last I checked EME is not a non-profit, so expect to see more lootboxes and more ways for people to throw their cash at the game. This game isn't focused on PVP, so them paying to gear up shouldn't really affect anyone else.

Shall we follow your own logic?
Was not aware Gameforge was non-profit.

@SageWindu said:
@Erazus
That happened JUST RECENTLY. Around this time last year, there were many, many people clamoring about the shortage of talents outside of grinding your socks off in IoD.

So what did EME do? They dropped a friggin' LOOTBOX in the store. This happened last year, well before any "OW boss" or caiman events, and people were NOT happy about that (I mean, to be fair, it might've been a coincidence, but the timing couldn't have been worse).

Well, the forums weren't happy. We all know what happened in the game proper.

@voidy said:
This has been the trend for years. Korea rolls out some grindy garbage content that nobody wants. EU makes events and longterm changes to their game to mitigate it so their players don't leave. NA just sits there. Or does like, a weekend event at best. Look at how both regions handled the golden/silver talents shortage. EU made it so that every dungeon was a source of talents. NA just sat there. Now here we are with the leveling system.

inb4 thread gets locked by a volunteer sheriff who arbitrarily deems it offensive

Actually, regarding the talents, EME waited to later greedily add them to the cash shop on loot boxes.


Honestly, a server merge won't fix TERA in it's current state.


Sorry, I don't think so.

Could have updated the engine to Unreal 4 and made it 64 bits.
Instead we'll have AIR, which doesn't have TERA's combat system.
One of the main parts that made TERA successful.
BHS is an odd company.

@counterpoint said:
I've definitely been getting the daily EMP here -- it resets daily at 5pm PDT.

If you contact them, they do have a log of every time the EMP is added, so they should be able to validate it with you.

Just to confirm of the two bugs I know about Elite at the moment:
- There's a bug with the Elite mount where you have to go back to character select and back in for it to work
- On some characters after the update, the Elite Perks window is hidden by default. To have it appear again, you have to press the P button on the right-side of the Skills bar (which is the normal way to toggle the window on and off).

Are there any other bugs?

Also, these bugs are both on NA and EU.
It's not exclusive to NA.

@StarSprite said:
Eme just posted on discord that it's now active.

"The gift with EMP bundle is active now. The first time you purchase EMP for TERA from about 10:00 am this morning until the promotion ends on Sept 17, you should get the bundle listed on this page: https://store.enmasse.com/back-to-school
If you don't get the bundle within a few hours after your purchase, please submit a support ticket so we can track down the issue."

Seems it is confirmed the forums are kept up to date by the player council.

@Christin said:

@counterpoint said:

@DoctorDemento said:
And the calendar continues to be broken. yes the exploiters are asshats who need to be caught and banned. But that said here are the facts. I have degree in computer science. I have 3 certs in programming. I am a retired network engineer who owned a ISP (internet service provider) here in the US for 8 years. I also did the IT work for it. I've even built servers for corps worldwide and one for NASA. And as a FACT of programming, they could have fixed this years ago and could fix it today. I want to make it perfectly clear, that is NOT my opinion. That is a matter of fact by programming standards. If they want to fix it. And yes the multiple publishers with different standards does not help the problem at all. I have been here for many years and knew back in the day if they didn't fix it, it would continue to compound into a larger problem and it has. And will continue to do so until they fix it. End of story.

You don't need this appeal to authority to assert that software bugs can be fixed -- that's obvious. But as I've explained, even if they had fixed the known bug years ago, there was a second bug that was previously undisclosed that still could have caused this same exploit anyway (and this second bug contributed to making the severity of the first bug much, much higher than previously estimated). It's easy to sit here in hindsight and say that they should have seen the second bug coming, but there's no direct causality there. Maybe a full security audit of the code to look for vulnerabilities would have caught it, perhaps. (I've often said that BHS need to be trained on the age-old adage "Never trust the Client.")

At the end of the day, the calendar may never be fixed. They may just decide to deprecate the whole thing and tell the publisher to use something else to give daily rewards -- such as daily parcels or the consecutive login reward event. Due to changing staff and competing priorities, sometimes bugs just are never fixed and features abandoned entirely.

Plus, once they find a way to exploit something, they'll just keep creating work arounds every time there is a fix. The junk in the calendar simply isn't worth the fuss. The only thing I really liked were the stacks of 25fc. If they'd increase the fc drop rate even a bit, that would help making up for the lost fc from the calendar.

@MargaretRose said:

@Christin said:

@MargaretRose said:

@Christin said:

@CornishRex said:

@Christin said:

@CornishRex said:

@counterpoint said:

@Christin said:

@counterpoint said:

@DoctorDemento said:
Well it is still broken. Can't even see the daily rewards. So NOT FIXED. Imagine that. They love to take weeks or months or not at all to fix broken stuff. After years and years of this kind of stuff, it still annoys me when it happens.

Yes, right now it is purposefully turned off. When there's an update, I'm sure they'll post about it, but it'll remain off for the indefinite future. It's not instead, but there is still a cumulative login event running right now where you can get rewards each day.

And yes, these sorts of unfixed bugs annoy me (time zone bug with the calendar was a particular pet peeve), but the selfish actions that required it to be shut down completely (and a bunch of fashion coupon items removed) annoy me a lot more.

Really? Selfish actions? It's not like they used some type of script or exploit. From what I hear, it was a you could keep clicking kind of thing. Blaming those types of issues on players is just sad. Everything all fine for them script fisher people, but shame on you extra clickers for being such a greedy bunch. Such hypocrisy.

Just FWIW, you heard wrong. It wasn't "keep clicking" by any stretch of the imagination; it was quite literally an exploit script. That some people are claiming that's what it was means they either a) don't know what was really happening, or b) are trying to justify something that would get them banned in any MMO in existence and are arguing in very bad faith.

It was not just an exploit script. Calendar dupe bug has been known for ages and I used to do it unknowingly, all it takes is for you to lag and click multiple times on the calendar out of frustration when the item doesn't pop up and there you have it, multiple items. Since I played with high ping this would happen often lol. GM's have been alerted like a couple of years ago, most regions don't even use the calendar for rewards but eme still does despite knowing about the bug. I'm sure someone made a script to make it more severe and impactful but it's easily reproducible by just lagging.

Apparently, the exploit they are referring to is much more than the extra click lag glitch. Although the lag glitch does represent how desperate some are for FASHION COUPONS as I doubt people were trying to quick click for any of that other stuff.

It was pretty much click glitch gone horribly terribly wrong because people knew it was exploitable and eme did nothing before the script was made which they could've, since they did know about it and all...
I heard people were getting fashion coupons cause you could exchange for a certain reaper item that would dismantle into those new coins and you could get valuable costumes with it.

People complained that EME didn't open up that coin shop, but this is what happens when they do. Gotta wonder if they'll start wondering if it even pays to do anything nice for us anymore, cause so many find exploits around so much these days. Honestly, I could never imagine being so into a game that I would work so hard to exploit and take advantage of it.

Amused.
Do not believe launching the same feature other regions got is doing "anything nice for us".
The calendar exploit and issues has been around for years. Why wasn't that addressed before?
That could be debatable if they made a special event for our region and it was exploited.

However, of course, let's place the blame on the exploiters.
Every time poor EME tries to do something nice for their players the exploiters ruin it.
Guess they shouldn't bother doing anything anymore.

Thanks for supporting my point. Not sure why people using exploits get so bumhurt when their desperation and hypocrisy is addressed. I mean who should we place blame on? The exploiters that create and support these type of exploits or an under-staffed publishing company just trying to keep a game afloat? Instead of making improvements to the game, they gotta police it cause so many act like a bunch of spoiled brats. Sorry if the truth hurts, but more often than not, it's those same exploiters that cry most when they don't get something they want in game.

Was not aware those that disagree with yourself are automatically exploiters.
If BHS/EME actually made improvements to the game a few years ago, we wouldn't be in the current situation.
Not saying the exploiters aren't to blame, simply saying BHS/EME shares part of the blame as well.

Not going to get into who is and who isn't using exploits, but when your comment pretty much implies that the cheaters are simply not to blame and making numerous excuses for them, you're really making things a bit too obvious.

Blaming a publisher over people abusing glitches and exploits is beyond ridiculous. People sit there and take the time to find exploits and abuse them. That's like blaming the old lady, because she didn't hold her purse tight enough so the thief was able to run off with it. It's a bit to silly to say that the exploiters are justified all because the code allows for exploitation. Exploiters are to blame, because it's their fault that prizes and other rewards get taken away or not bothered with in the first place. They already punished all of us by seriously nerfing legion spawn times over bots. How long before we all end up punished over the fishing scripters and fishing is removed or seriously nerfed? It really is a handful of spoiled brats trying to ruin everything then crying like babies that dungeons won't pop and repeating over and over the game is dead. No doubt the exploiters will be the ones spamming the forum with demands for more fc shop updates and for the removed items to be returned.

Is that so?
By that logic, perhaps you're the one using exploits and trying to look innocent.
Since you're indirectly accusing multiple players on different threads.

And the exploiters were allegedly banned.
I already gave my point of view and you gave yours.
Considering your last few comments on multiple threads, let's agree to disagree and move on.

Also, now players asking for more FC shop updates are also exploiters?

Perhaps add FC to dungeons loot table like at EU?

@Christin said:

@MargaretRose said:

@Christin said:

@CornishRex said:

@Christin said:

@CornishRex said:

@counterpoint said:

@Christin said:

@counterpoint said:

@DoctorDemento said:
Well it is still broken. Can't even see the daily rewards. So NOT FIXED. Imagine that. They love to take weeks or months or not at all to fix broken stuff. After years and years of this kind of stuff, it still annoys me when it happens.

Yes, right now it is purposefully turned off. When there's an update, I'm sure they'll post about it, but it'll remain off for the indefinite future. It's not instead, but there is still a cumulative login event running right now where you can get rewards each day.

And yes, these sorts of unfixed bugs annoy me (time zone bug with the calendar was a particular pet peeve), but the selfish actions that required it to be shut down completely (and a bunch of fashion coupon items removed) annoy me a lot more.

Really? Selfish actions? It's not like they used some type of script or exploit. From what I hear, it was a you could keep clicking kind of thing. Blaming those types of issues on players is just sad. Everything all fine for them script fisher people, but shame on you extra clickers for being such a greedy bunch. Such hypocrisy.

Just FWIW, you heard wrong. It wasn't "keep clicking" by any stretch of the imagination; it was quite literally an exploit script. That some people are claiming that's what it was means they either a) don't know what was really happening, or b) are trying to justify something that would get them banned in any MMO in existence and are arguing in very bad faith.

It was not just an exploit script. Calendar dupe bug has been known for ages and I used to do it unknowingly, all it takes is for you to lag and click multiple times on the calendar out of frustration when the item doesn't pop up and there you have it, multiple items. Since I played with high ping this would happen often lol. GM's have been alerted like a couple of years ago, most regions don't even use the calendar for rewards but eme still does despite knowing about the bug. I'm sure someone made a script to make it more severe and impactful but it's easily reproducible by just lagging.

Apparently, the exploit they are referring to is much more than the extra click lag glitch. Although the lag glitch does represent how desperate some are for FASHION COUPONS as I doubt people were trying to quick click for any of that other stuff.

It was pretty much click glitch gone horribly terribly wrong because people knew it was exploitable and eme did nothing before the script was made which they could've, since they did know about it and all...
I heard people were getting fashion coupons cause you could exchange for a certain reaper item that would dismantle into those new coins and you could get valuable costumes with it.

People complained that EME didn't open up that coin shop, but this is what happens when they do. Gotta wonder if they'll start wondering if it even pays to do anything nice for us anymore, cause so many find exploits around so much these days. Honestly, I could never imagine being so into a game that I would work so hard to exploit and take advantage of it.

Amused.
Do not believe launching the same feature other regions got is doing "anything nice for us".
The calendar exploit and issues has been around for years. Why wasn't that addressed before?
That could be debatable if they made a special event for our region and it was exploited.

However, of course, let's place the blame on the exploiters.
Every time poor EME tries to do something nice for their players the exploiters ruin it.
Guess they shouldn't bother doing anything anymore.

Thanks for supporting my point. Not sure why people using exploits get so bumhurt when their desperation and hypocrisy is addressed. I mean who should we place blame on? The exploiters that create and support these type of exploits or an under-staffed publishing company just trying to keep a game afloat? Instead of making improvements to the game, they gotta police it cause so many act like a bunch of spoiled brats. Sorry if the truth hurts, but more often than not, it's those same exploiters that cry most when they don't get something they want in game.

Was not aware those that disagree with yourself are automatically exploiters.
If BHS/EME actually made improvements to the game a few years ago, we wouldn't be in the current situation.
Not saying the exploiters aren't to blame, simply saying BHS/EME shares part of the blame as well.

@counterpoint said:

@MargaretRose said:
The calendar exploit and issues has been around for years. Why wasn't that addressed before?

As I mentioned above, the primary issue here (why it was so bad) involves a second additional bug/exploit that is tangentially related to (but not dependent on) the long-known one. So even if the first issue had been addressed before, this new issue could still have surfaced and resulted in the same problem. It's not so simple as blaming the fact that a known issue had not yet been fixed.

However, of course, let's place the blame on the exploiters.
Every time poor EME tries to do something nice for their players the exploiters ruin it.
Guess they shouldn't bother doing anything anymore.

Both can be simultaneously true. Yes, the known portion of the exploit should have been dealt with sooner and who knows -- if it had, maybe the second wouldn't have been found. But also, yes, the exploiters and their excessive greed are at fault too; they knew what they did in combining these two exploits the way they did was crossing every ethical line, and they in every way deserve the ban (and indeed, some of them were doing it purely to watch the world burn).

As for the rest, this FC update only finally happened because a group of staff and non-staff worked a lot of extra hours to get this done even though it was not in any way required. It could literally have never happened and just ended as a long-ago promise dropped and forgotten (and for a long time I worried that would be the case, although I kept asking). So you don't have to be appreciative, but you could at least not be so endlessly cynical about it all. This was a genuine attempt to do something good, even if you think it was something you were "owed." I think our fashion coupon store has the largest selection of any region now, even more than EU or K-TERA, and at least that's something.

Believe you are mistaken, as I haven't mentioned the FC update.
I was talking about the new coins shop, which was @Christin subject.

@Christin said:

@CornishRex said:

@Christin said:

@CornishRex said:

@counterpoint said:

@Christin said:

@counterpoint said:

@DoctorDemento said:
Well it is still broken. Can't even see the daily rewards. So NOT FIXED. Imagine that. They love to take weeks or months or not at all to fix broken stuff. After years and years of this kind of stuff, it still annoys me when it happens.

Yes, right now it is purposefully turned off. When there's an update, I'm sure they'll post about it, but it'll remain off for the indefinite future. It's not instead, but there is still a cumulative login event running right now where you can get rewards each day.

And yes, these sorts of unfixed bugs annoy me (time zone bug with the calendar was a particular pet peeve), but the selfish actions that required it to be shut down completely (and a bunch of fashion coupon items removed) annoy me a lot more.

Really? Selfish actions? It's not like they used some type of script or exploit. From what I hear, it was a you could keep clicking kind of thing. Blaming those types of issues on players is just sad. Everything all fine for them script fisher people, but shame on you extra clickers for being such a greedy bunch. Such hypocrisy.

Just FWIW, you heard wrong. It wasn't "keep clicking" by any stretch of the imagination; it was quite literally an exploit script. That some people are claiming that's what it was means they either a) don't know what was really happening, or b) are trying to justify something that would get them banned in any MMO in existence and are arguing in very bad faith.

It was not just an exploit script. Calendar dupe bug has been known for ages and I used to do it unknowingly, all it takes is for you to lag and click multiple times on the calendar out of frustration when the item doesn't pop up and there you have it, multiple items. Since I played with high ping this would happen often lol. GM's have been alerted like a couple of years ago, most regions don't even use the calendar for rewards but eme still does despite knowing about the bug. I'm sure someone made a script to make it more severe and impactful but it's easily reproducible by just lagging.

Apparently, the exploit they are referring to is much more than the extra click lag glitch. Although the lag glitch does represent how desperate some are for FASHION COUPONS as I doubt people were trying to quick click for any of that other stuff.

It was pretty much click glitch gone horribly terribly wrong because people knew it was exploitable and eme did nothing before the script was made which they could've, since they did know about it and all...
I heard people were getting fashion coupons cause you could exchange for a certain reaper item that would dismantle into those new coins and you could get valuable costumes with it.

People complained that EME didn't open up that coin shop, but this is what happens when they do. Gotta wonder if they'll start wondering if it even pays to do anything nice for us anymore, cause so many find exploits around so much these days. Honestly, I could never imagine being so into a game that I would work so hard to exploit and take advantage of it.

Amused.
Do not believe launching the same feature other regions got is doing "anything nice for us".
The calendar exploit and issues has been around for years. Why wasn't that addressed before?
That could be debatable if they made a special event for our region and it was exploited.

However, of course, let's place the blame on the exploiters.
Every time poor EME tries to do something nice for their players the exploiters ruin it.
Guess they shouldn't bother doing anything anymore.

@UsagiFF said:

@StarSprite said:
On discord they said they are aware and are working on a fix.

Why dont they close the forums then?

It looks like forums are no more in their best interest and the only replies we get are from PC to tell us what EME said on Discord.

Agreed.

@Zoknahal said:

The Imperator axe seems to share the same base model as the rogue/shadowlaced axe.

@counterpoint said:

@UsagiFF said:
What about this: Move servers location, make one for East coast and another for West coast. This will allow all players have better ping acordingly with the server location they are playing. And give free transfers with all assets included for a time window of a month at least.

This would be objectively worse because people from the two servers couldn't do any instance/BG matching together. If they were going to do this, they'd be better off pursuing a new market entirely (like, say, Brazil or something) not splitting the U.S. market.

This could be nice if the current population was higher.
SWTOR had East and West servers a few years ago.
Considering US' size, it's easy for a player to have considerable ping even inside the country.

Hi,
Reading the forums a bit should give you a general idea.

@34YFWJYW39 said:
memefall lol

That was a few years ago.

@Zoknahal said:
Not siding with the adventure coin system, just trying to get something positive out of it, like i always do with everything.

The system without a doubt NEEDS improvements. As of right now, is a system that tries to encourage to spend money to keep running dungeons, AND THAT IS REALLY BAD.

Confused, what of it is positive?

Friends, I suppose.

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