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Posts by Fainall

It does, but it doesn't let you change a pet to a companion's appearance I believe and whatever you use for the appearance is lost.

All the things you suggested are good. Maybe incorporate fishing and crafting also. What about a scavenger hunt? Where you have to find items on the map, get crafted items, so many of this type of fish, etc. It would be great to do something out on the map instead of this endless dungeon grind on one character. And next time please please let us put the tokens in the bank.

@TJKat said:

@seraphinush said:

@TJKat said:

@Ear said:
That was by far the best event I've seen in years.

It's really sad that this is what people consider "events" now, let alone a good one.

If you have some good idea on good events, let us know and share your thoughts !

You miss my point. Decreasing the soul crushing failure rate of enchanting for a day is NOT an "event".

My soul crushing failure rate was the same as any other day, it was definitely not an event.

@seraphinush said:
Thanks for posting mate, the Token shop has been updated with the appropriate cosmetics -- note that these costumes are premium items fresh, newly released cosmetics so it's quite illogical to want to for free from an ingame event this early into the sale. it does surprise me that EU decided to release the Hazel one for free like that but different publishers, different thoughts.

Why is it illogical for them to let us earn the brown dress instead of putting it in a loot box? What is wrong with an occasional free costume we can work for that isn't complete garbage? Besides neither dress is dyeable, why are any of them in a loot box?

@Oicwutudidthur said:
https://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/tera-anniversary-little-red-and-the-wolf
Text changed from: Little Red Tokens can be exchanged for Red Riding Dress costumes and accessories.
To: Little Red Tokens can be exchanged for Red Riding Dress set accessories.
Swept under the rug

Of course they did, why would they give us anything anymore for all the time we spend on the game. :s

I agree, I don't see it happening though. They couldn't care less.

I only look at the discord occasionally, I never post there. It's scary.

They removed a ton of dungeons, made easier ones harder, the event isn't that great. Que's seem to be taking a while even during the anniversary event. I don't PvP so I can't speak to that but people say you still get booted and all. I don't think you are really missing a whole lot.

While it's fine if you liked the event, others didn't. I didn't see much in the way of actual events. There was very little "do this thing to earn this" type of activities. Most of it was from the cash shop. Even if you bought stuff with gold, someone had to buy it from the cash shop.

Recently you had the chance to get the spring maid from the magical token things that you got from the weapon of mass devotion loot box. There are even still some in the broker. I haven't seen the glasses in a while.

Why wouldn't they make it tradeable though...nevermind I don't know why I even ask.

@Akilleez89 said:
" I had to put a pain patch on my shoulder when I was done and my neck is still sore from sitting hunched over doing dungeon after dungeon on the same char...with the same skills and the same rotation and zzzzz. Games are supposed to be fun and challenging in a very different way. Grinding isn't fun. "

MMORPGs are grindy is all I meant to say. I only see "People don't like to grind for stuff during an event" but I see no suggestions. So if the items drop from the dungeons instead of the tokens, you still gotta grind dungeons. If they drop from bams or monsters, you still have to grind those. If they come from emote parties in highwatch, you still gotta emote grind. I have quit and come back recently so I sitll have tons of dungeons I need to learn so maybe I just can't relate. What events would you like to see?

I have made suggestions all over...we all have. We want the tokens to be bankable so we don't have to endlessly grind on ONE char. We want the costs lowered because they said that this is for casual players....what casual player is going to run MC three times to buy a PEARL? We want enchanting events and events to get enchanting mats. There have been so many suggestions...and they fall on deaf ears. By comparison EU has crazy awesome events. We get garbage.

@Akilleez89 said:

@Fainall said:

@counterpoint said:

@Fainall said:
I think it's time for game devs to realize that most gamers don't actually like to grind. We are over it. We did that on 3 dozen other games ages ago. Gamers have grown up, they want something a little more stimulating. A little more diverse. A little more inspiring.

The problem is that there is, indeed, still a group of hardcore players who will do the grind. These kinds of events are meant primarily to appeal to that very small but very-dedicated group of players, and be "aspirational" to push others to increase their playtime. (Whether the rewards this time are enough to be aspirational may be a different issue...)

But I think for something like an anniversary event they should have multiple parallel paths. That's what they did in many previous years where (eventually) you could choose a bunch of different ways to earn tokens, so I'm still hopeful that more options/events are put on the table.

Will do it, and enjoy it aren't the same thing. I did do it for this event...once. I just can't do it again. I had to put a pain patch on my shoulder when I was done and my neck is still sore from sitting hunched over doing dungeon after dungeon on the same char...with the same skills and the same rotation and zzzzz. Games are supposed to be fun and challenging in a very different way. Grinding isn't fun. Sure there are a handful of people who actually like to mindlessly grind. But the majority of people simply don't enjoy it, it's just that they want the item bad enough to give up their life to get it. I couldn't do it on the past events. I tried, but in the end the prize wasn't worth a trip to the chiropractor. The thing with this one is that Rox said it was supposed to be geared toward the casual players, but it's not. Casual players don't want to grind for hours and hours on end either.

Respectfully I'd like to suggest that maybe mmorpgs are just not for you anymore. There is a lot to do in Tera and there are a lot of classes to try if you get bored of one and a lot of dungeons to master if you get bored of the others. If grinding isn't fun, then don't grind. The chupatokens are not worth worrying about.

I have one of every class at level 70 in gold gear or better. I think you are missing the point I was trying to make.

@counterpoint said:

@Fainall said:
I think it's time for game devs to realize that most gamers don't actually like to grind. We are over it. We did that on 3 dozen other games ages ago. Gamers have grown up, they want something a little more stimulating. A little more diverse. A little more inspiring.

The problem is that there is, indeed, still a group of hardcore players who will do the grind. These kinds of events are meant primarily to appeal to that very small but very-dedicated group of players, and be "aspirational" to push others to increase their playtime. (Whether the rewards this time are enough to be aspirational may be a different issue...)

But I think for something like an anniversary event they should have multiple parallel paths. That's what they did in many previous years where (eventually) you could choose a bunch of different ways to earn tokens, so I'm still hopeful that more options/events are put on the table.

Will do it, and enjoy it aren't the same thing. I did do it for this event...once. I just can't do it again. I had to put a pain patch on my shoulder when I was done and my neck is still sore from sitting hunched over doing dungeon after dungeon on the same char...with the same skills and the same rotation and zzzzz. Games are supposed to be fun and challenging in a very different way. Grinding isn't fun. Sure there are a handful of people who actually like to mindlessly grind. But the majority of people simply don't enjoy it, it's just that they want the item bad enough to give up their life to get it. I couldn't do it on the past events. I tried, but in the end the prize wasn't worth a trip to the chiropractor. The thing with this one is that Rox said it was supposed to be geared toward the casual players, but it's not. Casual players don't want to grind for hours and hours on end either.

As I was grinding endless dungeons on ONE char, something occurred to me. They just have to get that grind in somewhere. They took away the horrible level 65-70 grind and players were delighted. But then they said oh no you have to grind....there has to be GRIND. So they made us grind away on ONE char for tokens that are unbankable. I started to do it on another char, and I just couldn't. They keep doing it, if you wanted those wings you had to grind. If you wanted the dark pixie the first time you had to grind. If you wanted the dragon boat you had to grind. This time if you want ANYTHING you have to grind. There are so few dungeons and so little inspiration to grind on one char through all that. I think it's time for game devs to realize that most gamers don't actually like to grind. We are over it. We did that on 3 dozen other games ages ago. Gamers have grown up, they want something a little more stimulating. A little more diverse. A little more inspiring. They also need to realize that gamers aren't all 16 years old anymore either. We have gotten older. That grind is hard on us and we have things to do. Also we have gotten to the point where we don't want to feel like you just want to keep us on the game for hours for sheer numbers. Chances are we are going to do that anyway. We want to feel a bit appreciated. There needs to be a balance...even with events.

@N7HFPTL6H9 said:
I feel like tera is going to have lvl 65 as the max lvl for how many years thats just kinda makes the game a bit boring...just because they raised it a year ago doesn't mean they cant do it again this year .-. i only asked this question bcuz i was curious. Kinda some of y'all got really defensive about it.

(Oof i mistakenly and posted this comment on a diff acc..)

The max level is 70 not 65. But I think too many of us still feel the pain in our bones from the last cap increase. A lot of players weren't here for it, and the ones that were either left as so many people mentioned or we slogged through it til our eyes and fingers bled. It was brutal. I am not opposed to a level cap IF they did it right, but history hasn't really supported that.

Seriously on discord Rox said this event was geared towards casual players. Cause casual players wanna run 200 dungeons for a pet right? :s

I couldn't stop watching the successful enchanting scroll by on that vid! :s

@TJKat said:
It's unbankable and delivered to the first character you log in with. That's one gone to waste.

Yeah why on earth do they make it unbankable. I logged into a different char than usual and now it's on that char that I don't want to do it with. But I am not sure I want to be bothered doing it at all.

I would say Grotto

@counterpoint said:

@Fainall said:

@counterpoint said:
My guess is that, since the dyeable version is time-limited, they are planning to sell the non-dyeable versions separately later after the dyeable version is gone. Either that or they are planning to somehow make the non-dyeable versions available via an event or some other way. But the fact the non-dyeable version isn't being sold now is definitely on purpose, for whatever reason.

Well considering they didn't even realize the icon and image had the non dye-able ones....are you sure?

I mean "sure" is a bit strong, but 99% confident. The marketing team that makes this art is separate from the actual product team, and they've made errors like this before out of using a test build and not yet knowing how/when/etc. things will be sold. They probably were just making general promo art for the whole set together, but then the product team decided to just sell the dyeable one alone. When it gets posted on the site, they probably weren't paying enough attention to the picture to realize some of them weren't the dyeable version (because they were all different colors, so...). But the product team is definitely aware that the non-dyeable ones exist (as they always do; they're in the build, and clearly the IDs were provided to the marketing team to make the art). The fact they're holding it back (rather than selling it directly as they usually do) is almost certainly a deliberate choice.

As Elinu1 said above, I wonder if it's for anniversary as well, but we'll see.

Interesting. Ok...but isn't today the anniversary? Nothing happened.

@counterpoint said:
My guess is that, since the dyeable version is time-limited, they are planning to sell the non-dyeable versions separately later after the dyeable version is gone. Either that or they are planning to somehow make the non-dyeable versions available via an event or some other way. But the fact the non-dyeable version isn't being sold now is definitely on purpose, for whatever reason.

Well considering they didn't even realize the icon and image had the non dye-able ones....are you sure?

The whole point of the shiny titles is to show you accomplished something good or did an event. Before it was so easy, getting warhorse was a major accomplishment that took weeks to months.

Since I sent in a ticket, they have it half right. They fixed the icon and image for the dye-able ones. But now....where are the non dye-able ones?

I have been waiting for this dress to arrive. I saw it on Euro. They have three versions dye-able to a single color, not dye-able plain white sans bow and the variegated lime and indigo one that also is NOT dye-able. The icon on the loot box shows the variegated one. The description says you can get the dye-able. Where is the variegated one? I have been asking everyone who pulls a box what one they are getting, they are only getting the plain white dye-able one. So I can conclude the variegated one is not in the box despite showing it. I bought boxes before I realized I had 0 chance of getting the one I actually wanted. That is false advertising. Even if it is in the box and so rare no one has gotten one, it's still false advertising because the only one listed is dye-able and the lime and indigo isn't. The non dye-able ones should be a straight up purchase.

I remember doing Rift last summer and having the lag so bad....it was fun though.

I was coming to ask this same thing, why don't gunners get anything?

Me too, I don't use mods either, and not a timezone thing.

@BellaStella said:
It would be nice to participate...IF I HAD THE CALENDAR Accumulative login window like everyone else. Fix your game EME....

I don't have it either, I even logged all the way out and back in.

I guess I look at it like this...if I see a cute pair of boots in a store and they are $150 and I save up and buy them...then 3 weeks later they clearance them for half price would I go back and demand half my money back? No of course not. And in the end even though it sucks I had to spend twice as much...I still have the boots and I found the price acceptable that they were before. If I hadn't I wouldn't have bought them. Same with the jewelry on the game. It's not like you HAVE to upgrade it but you found it acceptable to do it as it stood that day that you did it.

Thanks for the vid. I have never understood why EME thinks people will shell out piles of cash for something when they have no idea what it looks like. Is it really that hard to put all the items in the dressing room?

I don't know about you guys, but it's taking RR ages to que up, and I truly hate RK9. I have to agree on this, there is nothing for lower level or casual players to run.

@Erazus said:
... Achievement borders are based off of how many achievements you have completed compared to how many achievements available there are.

They removed like half the dungeons therefore you need to actually do new achievements instead of sitting on what you already got.

There is nothing wrong about this... Just get up to date that is all, gets you to do more things to and things to work for

Why work for it again if it will just be taken away later?

Yeah I have been here a few years and never seen this happen before. But honestly if that is the norm, why bother having them? They are meaningless.

You know Bear I get that feeling sometimes too, that they want it to fail. Why else would they do the horrid things they do?

Apparently we aren't the only ones who feel this way, I logged on a minute ago and in my guild this time of day there are usually 2-3 dozen people on even if they are just afking. Today there are 3...or were til I logged out. Now I assume there are 2 people logged on.

You are so right Bear, why work for anything if they are just going to take it away?

What on earth were you thinking? The laurel I had has been reduced and I am not even half way to the one I had. Why would you take that away. Just because you removed dungeons doesn't mean we should lose what we worked for. Why do you expect your players to work hard for something if you are just going to take it away!

I just read what they did to box farming...so now it will be even harder to repair gear. facepalms

If they were really smart they would sell an item to unbind old costumes from a character in the cash shop. They would make tons that way.

@Konatta98 said:
For "good player" writte so much xd.
Good player just farm, get gear, sell run and stay chilling.

No often times good players don't write a whole lot because they don't have to. To me a good player is someone who knows the mechs and can run the dungeons, is loyal to the game and logs on often...probably daily. They are not toxic and they help other players.

@noctred said:

@Fainall said:

Question - what can you do with +15 that you can't do with +12? Aside from being able to do the same things faster if you're a speedrunner.

You upgrade to the next level gear so you can run new content instead of running the same thing you have done for months to years. But as it is now there is no way to get the next gear without having old gear at +15.

Bree enchanting HO was still easier than what we have now I am sorry to say.

Well Elle you are not wrong. But the point of any game of any type is to get to the current end and enjoy what that has to offer after you get there, even if the journey is important. The idea of only the most dedicated reaching the end is not a bad one IF it's doable. I have spent more time on this game than I care to think about. I have grinded, I have enjoyed the journey. But at some point in the life of any loyal player there has to be that pay off where your efforts are rewarded. As it stands now that effort is not rewarded, it's all based on luck. A lucky player that has spent 1/4 of the time and money over another player has could conceivably get the best gear. Of course eventually you want that gear so you can do those new harder dungeons. Otherwise you are running RR til your eyes bleed. How many times can you do one thing before you can't stand it any longer. Everyone should have the opportunity to progress with effort. But I have seen so many players leave because they simply couldn't despite their best efforts or hundreds to thousands of hours in the game. That is where my friend is at. As for swiping....I have said all along that I get this is a business and they need to make money to keep going like any other business. I have no problem with that. BUT there has to be some type of return on your money or you stop spending it. It seems to me they either make it really easy or really impossible with each time they change the system. They really need to find a middle ground. We will see what this patch brings....but it won't bring back all the lost players who quit over this.

I have to agree Dark, there has to be a balance. There just isn't one. I see people all the time going across the screen that says they got their gear to +13 or +14 then it's silent. +15 is really rare to see across the screen. It seems that people really have different RNG. Some people are super lucky, but for those of us who are not, forget it. It's not happening. I personally have spent so much gold it's not even funny and my gear is no where near +15. On top of that as you said the economy is out of wack. Every time someone sells something in the broker, the next person increases it by 50-100k for cosmetic items. Now it's easy to say those aren't important but obviously they are. If your char is stylin and you are feeling good about it you want to keep using it. RNG can keep people engaged but not when it's applied to everything and the failure rate is so bad.

I was just looking at the Tera discord. A player I know and like is leaving the game. The reason is the same as so many other people I know who have left the game. The same reason I will most likely hit that wall of tolerance before long and end up leaving as well. The reason is the never ending failures on enchanting their gold gear. I feel the pain, I have been down this road as well. I know the futility of trying to upgrade and having it fail, become damaged and go back levels repeatedly. The worst part is, there is no way to tip the odds in your favor. Most games have a potion or a scroll or something you can do to increase your odds of upgrading. Most games it's only one thing, you can fail OR damage OR go back levels, not all three. But not Tera.

This is a complaint we see from people daily. They are frustrated by the lack of being able to upgrade gear after a certain point. Who can blame them. You spend months or years on a game. You have done every conceivable thing you can do, and all that remains is end game and end game gear. But you get there and it's near to impossible to get your gear up even if you spend real money.

How many people have to tell you the frustration of this. How many people have to leave the game before you finally think to yourself hey maybe this current model isn't working. Yes Tera is an old game. But there are lots of old businesses out there that strive to stay current with the times. The reality is the horrendous RNG rate on upgrading gear is causing people to leave and go elsewhere. Why on earth wouldn't you want people to stay on your game instead of going to a competitor and taking all their lovely money they spend on the game with them? That is just a recipe for failure.

How many people have to tell you it's not working. How many people have to leave before you do something about it? How many good players and nice people must we lose before you fix it? So many have left already. Nearly every friend I have ever made over the last couple years in this game has left because of it. It's time to step up and do something about it.

They are decreasing the drop rate of dark shard? So now we won't get any at all? Because it wasn't dropping that much as it is.

I agree Terra, it was nice of them to do that! Thank you for the free 2 weeks!

You guys do get that with the entire world sheltering at home the internet is just lagging right...

What costumes were they?

Yeah I had this issue too, I bought one thing and got something different.

Welcome to the game! Something not mentioned is that after you hit level 65 you can apex which gives you a few new skills including one called Thrall Augmentation. It boosts your thralls and as you progress the cool down for some of them shortens through glyphs and EP. You might consider trying a character on the PvE server as well, the population is higher there. Also there is a P2W aspect but there really isn't very many items in the cash shop that can't be obtained in game with a little effort.

I chose the red one on one char and it has auto loot, but I chose the black one on a different char and it came with special storage.

I know this thread is old, but I found it searching for the answer because I couldn't complete the quest either. I didn't find the answer. I figured it out on my own though, and thought I would share it here in case anyone else does a google search. When you do the quest, open the quest log. At the bottom is a red button that says "I remember him" click it and then he will give you the horns after that.

Yes there will be a purple quest chain that first takes you to apex then continues on to get you to Exodor.

@Anung said:

@Fainall said:
This event was not a reward, it was an exercise in cruelty. I spent over a million in repair costs, and all the shards I had are gone...and in the end, two pieces of gear were lower than when I started. This wasn't an event, it was a slap in the face. They need to choose something, damage...going backward or failure, but not all three. It's just hideous and cruel of them to have all three.

With the new dungeon, you will get an item to prevent the downgrade.

Well it's not like they freely spread that information, and it shouldn't have existed in the first place. Having that many ways to fail has driven away so many people already. How easy will this item be to get? Will it be a rare drop? Will it eventually end up in the cash shop? Seriously they always take the long way around. Why not just remove the downgrade period.

This event was not a reward, it was an exercise in cruelty. I spent over a million in repair costs, and all the shards I had are gone...and in the end, two pieces of gear were lower than when I started. This wasn't an event, it was a slap in the face. They need to choose something, damage...going backward or failure, but not all three. It's just hideous and cruel of them to have all three.

@Gaalrak said:

@F7DYWGCF5P said:
as i keep saying
im very happy with it on

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My point here is that you are given options with which to avoid being offended (Which isn't a crime, it would contradict the First Amendment, aka; free speech) whereas in the regard to this chat censorship, we are not. The censor is enabled across all channels, with no options to remove it.

I appreciate your contribution to the discussion.

Just to be very clear here, freedom of speech does not extend to privately owned enterprises. Freedom of speech is for the provision of people to assemble in public places and share their thoughts and ideas without censorship. Freedom of speech in no way allows you to say anything anywhere anytime. People get that wrong often.

As for the filter, I'm ambivalent. Perhaps it's not so bad for people to re-learn how to have conversations that aren't peppered with vulgarities. As another person said, I have seen some pretty disgusting, hate ridden and crude things said in global recently. Things that go above and beyond what should be allowed in any game. In fact one person was spewing so much hatred for no reason that another person said they were new and asked if the community was always this toxic. Someone else answered yes and the new person said they were going to uninstall the game because it was even worse than BDO. It can reach a point where it's detrimental to the longevity of the game.

@Viauxi said:

@Fainall said:
Legolam I agree. I can't upgrade my gear any further. Improved shards are impossible to get. I finally opened cash crates out of desperation. I got some, I tried to enchant multiple times only to end up worse than I started. Not one piece of gear ever went up. One went back a level, four damaged, so many fails I lost count. What was the point?

There is no point, that's the point.

Welcome to gaming 2020, where games are designed to be as frustrating and dry as possible. Where cosmetics are all sold in lootboxes instead of actually being earned in the actual game. Where games make you feel incredibly insecure (for no reason) just so they can sell you a solution. Where they put that solution in a casino so your impulsive [filtered] can waste $2,500 instead of $30.

Welcome to gaming 2020, where the endgame IS being so desperate for that dopamine release that you would give money to corporate just for the promise of progression (This concept is, and has always been called PAY TO WIN, just fyi). In reality, there is so much probability weaved in the game's design that is basically statistically impossible for you to see a rate of progression that isn't "literally insanely long". Games nowadays are designed like this, to keep you whales perma-swiping for as long as possible. This is the tactic deployed almost all Korean f2p/mobile games right now. Why? Because it works so good at fooling gamers into dumping truckloads of money into a bad game it's not even funny.

If the average person wasn't so braindead, this lunacy wouldn't be in our games to begin with. This is what swiping daddy's credit card and white knighting for companies you "felt bad for because the haters are criticizing them :(" has led to. If you are wondering what happened to Tera, to mmos in general, this is what happened. Gaming has been completely taken over by corporate and it's just a tool to extract wealth from gullible children. They are designed to make you feel bad/insecure while playing, so you are more likely to spend money on their RNG crates, that's why the [filtered] isn't fun anymore.
And if you were born into this era of gaming, I honestly feel bad for you because you just don't know any better, It's quite sad. Unless you have wise parents/older siblings to teach you/SHOW you better, you far more vulnerable to falling prey to predatory tactics like this or even defending them.

So Enjoy!!!
What? Do you disapprove of this madness in your games? Well, my advice is this: Find a better hobby, seriously.
And I'm not talking directly at you, I'm more just rambling about the general state of the gaming industry.

First of all, I am an adult with her own very successful business. Everyone I personally know on Tera with the exception of one person is in fact an adult 30 or over. So get over the stereotypical "swiping of Daddy's credit card." My "Daddy" died long ago and I have my own credit card. Most kids that play this game don't stay long due to lack of attention and/or any real progression. It is the adults who stay and hope it gets better somehow. Nor did I spend $2500, I spent $20. I don't think throwin twenty bucks at a game that is in fact a business is so bad every once in a while, but I do expect to see something for that money when that money is for mats to enchant. I expect some progression of some type, not regression. And I might be inclined to spend more if I saw some one way or another. While I do agree with some points you made, that isn't the issue. This thread is about the state of exhaustion of the players because of lack of real progression whether through hard work, or P2W. But don't assume everyone is a brain dead kid, or that we throw thousands of dollars at the game. Like any business where we spend our hard earned cash, regardless how much it is, we have a right to comment on something that we find less than satisfactory.

@counterpoint said:
I gave them some feedback about this too. I think at the time it was on the homepage/news section of the En Masse website, but news from the En Masse website doesn't automatically get syndicated to all the individual game websites, so people who are used to checking each game's site probably won't see it. Most people don't know to check the En Masse site. That being said, I'm trying to remember if it showed up in the launcher for a while -- it might have, but don't remember.

Either way, it could have been more effectively communicated, I agree.

I don't know Counter, I check that a few times a week and never saw it on the game page. But you are right I would have never thought to check the En Masse site, because the only Eme game I play is Tera. But honestly if it's something they are giving the entire site, just give it to us. Enough making us jump through hoops, we already jump through enough hoops on this game. Save the codes for things like linking twitch and all that. Something that is not available to everyone.

Legolam I agree. I can't upgrade my gear any further. Improved shards are impossible to get. I finally opened cash crates out of desperation. I got some, I tried to enchant multiple times only to end up worse than I started. Not one piece of gear ever went up. One went back a level, four damaged, so many fails I lost count. What was the point?

I saw someone with the title. I scoured the main page and the forums and never saw how to claim it. Finally today I discovered you posted it on Twitter. But I, like a lot of people don't have twitter so of course it's expired and I can't get it. It would be nice if these things were posted on the game site. Some of us don't want to have to chase you all over the internet to find things. I have seen exactly one person with that title. Maybe you need to rethink this stuff...or if it's something for the entire site, just give it to us and stop making us use codes!

I was shopping around for a new game last night in fact. I am SO over the RNG on everything, and the ultra low drop rates for junk you need but just cannot get, and the gear failure/breaking. I am just tired of it. It's sad because I love Tera, but yeah...

I found one piece, it expired before I ever found another one. Just one more useless thing that supposedly helps but doesn't because of ultra ultra low drop rates.

@DXM said:

I bought the EMP bundle on Black Friday like I do most years for use on these boxes. This year while the individual items themselves aren't bad I don't feel it is worth it for the gifter or reciever, especially with no account bound item. I went and spent it all on the new weapon skin lootboxes instead. Rates appeared to be their usual 2-3%.

Did you pull one?

@Maldicion159 said:
Koreans don't give a [filtered] about Christ or the phony holiday that is supposed to celebrate him
we are only dollar signs to them

since that may have come off a bit harsh and in lieu of EME responding to player feedback with the new Wintera items I'm going to balance out that statement to include of most of the playerbase in the group of people who don't care about Christ and that some are even decidedly satanic.

First of all just under 1/3 of the population of South Korea is in fact Christian. Second, just because you don't share someone's beliefs....regardless what those beliefs are, doesn't mean you need to insult them.

@DeusFurta said:

Guess we're Archage now and they had to release a new game to fix their mount scandal.

New mount available only in Golden Gift Boxes for $20 ea at what is probably going to be an abysmally low rate. Hope everyone's ready to spend a grand to get something that we've had in the game for years and suddenly taken away from us.

There is no way I am going to even try for it. At Christmas time that is simply too much to spend on those boxes. You are right the odds will be stupidly low and we all know it. Heck you can't even pull the Yule weapon skins apparently. I had a friend who spent a ton trying to get one and never got a thing. I've been watching the screen announcements too, very very few have been pulled. Not a single one in the market either. What is the point of even designing something if practically no one is going to get it? I wanted a cookie for my ninja but nope, not one for sale anywhere. I surely won't be trying for that mount. I refuse to shell out piles of money for something I know I have no chance to get, and that shouldn't even exist in the first place because we should be able to fly there with the cash shop mounts we already paid for. I keep saying I understand they are a business and they need to make money. But a good way to make money is not by cheesing off your customers. If they were smart they would have let us fly on Exodor and offered up the mount based on it's increased speed only. People would have bought it for that reason alone. How you present something for sale is everything!

@counterpoint said:

@HitAhARD16 said:
Look at the differences in the games across the regions and dont tell me these are tailor made to different regions BY BHS this would be both costly for ktera and why do it yourselves if the diffrent regions can do it better or not at all (NA).

That's right -- the differences you noted are done by each region, and other events are provided by BHS. BHS might advise the region on how they recommend local events be balanced or whatever, but BHS doesn't centrally do region-specific balance. As for why EME doesn't do regions-specific balancing anymore, I've alluded to this a number of times here in the past, but I would summarize to say that EME top management seemingly decided they won't volunteer to re-do BHS's job for free anymore, whereas EU seems to just do whatever they want regardless of what BHS does. Obviously the latter approach has big benefits for players, though politically I can imagine there are some problems with that when you're in the same corporate family (which Gameforge is not).

Anyway, regarding this specific event, as I reposted in another thread, it seems that the event as originally provided by BHS had no costumes, and the Elin costumes were supposed to be sold, but they decided at the last minute for these costumes to be in the event instead. So that's how it ended up this way, if nothing else.

I am delighted they chose not to sell the costumes for Elins, it's nice to not have to fork over wads of cash once in a while. I got one and I love it. So I am indeed appreciative of their choice on that.

That being said...if a player went to the forums and made some racist comments about races in the real world and someone reported it they would be warned or even banned. But yet when EME chooses to hold an event...a Christmas event which is about spreading joy to ALL who choose to partake and leave out 6 races...thus making them in effect racist within the terms of the game it's ok?

We live in a world right now that is attempting to be inclusive, but yet they don't include any other races in the costumes. I know it's not nearly as serious since it's just avatars in a game, but it's an EVENT available for everyone on the game. Everyone should have the same rewards available for their character. People already complain that there aren't many costumes for the other races, so why exclude them for an event? A friend of mine just a few days ago was trying to get a costume for his human male character and he said the options were so limited. People do want these things. I know Elin costumes are where the money is, but people spend even more money when more options are available and when they don't feel left out.

@SageWindu said:

@Brice1914 said:
Seriously only Elin costumes rewards from Santa toys? Really? they already have 3 other options but you couldn't put ONE random smartbox costumes for the other races? Seriously?

Before we get the usual canned "eLiN iS wHeRe ThE mOnEy Is!" line, I recently had a thought about that.

Yes, elin is where the money is. You know where even more money is? Everyone else plus the people who play elin. Just focusing on a single race or class just pisses off those other players and makes them more hesitant to buy something the next time. EME (and BHS by extension) can get more money by giving people more options.

Speaking of, while I'm a little disappointed there are no bonus account items from this years Gift Boxes, I'm glad that there isn't yet another elin-only item.

So, you know... silver linings.

I find myself whole heartedly agreeing with you again. I don't understand why they wouldn't do Christmas items for other races. It makes zero sense to me.

But why wouldn't they put costumes in an event shop for all races? That just seems...well not very Christmasy!

@Maldicion159 said:
I thought elites had unlimited exodor flight?

Nope, if you want to fly on Exodor you have to do the quest to get the potion. I think it's not even all day, I am not sure I never bothered to do it because not being able to fly on Exodor with a mount that you already paid cash for just grinds my gears. That is one really big point of contention for me. And now they are offering this mount that can fly there, but it comes from the golden gift boxes? Bad move. Just put that thing straight up in the cash shop at least with NO RNG! But once again worst solution to a problem. They should have just made a potion you could quest for once that lets you fly there for all time. Or simply change it so you can fly there period.

Did you forget to do a vanguard maybe one day that you logged on?

@Christin said:

@allofspaceandtime said:

@Christin said:

@allofspaceandtime said:
you can also get free mounts through achievements like sparky and the black panther mounts are easy to get and also lumbertown sells the other horse mounts in the stable.

From what I've heard, the quests to get the black panther are tedious. The temp Sparky lasts less than a month, and from my memories the permanent one is through more achievements. Just because you can get some slow mounts by working for them doesn't negate the fact that Tera's mounts are ridiculously expensive and simply not worth the cash. You get a free flying mount, but it's not that great looking and people like to have different mounts.

The easiest way to get a mount is to fish on more than one account and save up gold. Depending on how many accounts you have (you can log into 5 through the launcher) it may take you a few weeks or so. Really, unless you have cash to burn or love running dungeons, it's probably best to move on. I mean what's the point in buying a mount or cosmetics for a game you're just afk fishing in anyways? You can also do Vanguards, but those really only give good gold if you have some alts to farm those with.

sparky is listed as a tempory mount but it doesn't go away. ive had mine for years. the black panther is a little tedious, but they are free, and Sheldon only costs like 10k gold

Maybe if you leave it in your bar, but mine went away, so not sure how that works. Either way, they are seriously slow mounts and not much better than the free horse mount already given. I surely wouldn't put them up to justify the horrific prices EME asks for mounts in the shop. You have to pay thirty bucks just to get a flying mount. You can play a lot of other games out there with a longer lifespan left to them and get more for $30 than you can here. That's for sure.

There are two achievements that give Sparky, one is temp one is permanent.

@TJKat said:
So, are they posting these things and keeping them hidden, then un-hiding them a day later? Because that post is dated the 25th but it wasn't there yesterday, or even this morning. The same thing happened with the last set of patch notes; it was dated the day before the patch, but didn't actually show up in the forums until after the patch was underway.

I ask because when you mark all topics as viewed it marks these hidden posts too so when they actually do become viewable, they the new post icon beside them and get overlooked.

I don't think it's went into effect until today, but all the exp you had from before is applied and it will show you farther along now.

I just want to say thank youuuuuuuuuuuu! Now I can level all my alts! <3

Yeah but is it on every emp purchase for the weekend or only the first one?

@LiamDahvis said:

@Fainall said:
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That part right there, the mods. This morning I was killing the monster for the superior guardian and I was at the top of the list. Someone came in with a weaker class with much lower gear/ilvl and hit it ONCE and suddenly had the top slot. And they were ahead by ALOT. There is no way without a mod. I see this all the time, people using mods have a huge advantage. I keep getting told I do no damage and that I am a bad player and every time I find out they are using a mod. I challenged one of them to try it without a mod. They did, and they did extremely poor damage compared to what they were doing. I am starting to find that to be an issue. I am not a bad player, I just don't use any type of a cheat, but it's making me not want to play again.

Mods don't do that -eye roll- scripts however do. Mods are usually cosmetic or audio they effect only your files no one else's. Stop confusing mods with scripts.

Well at least we are focusing on the right part of the issue here...that I called it the wrong thing and not that people are using them. -eye roll- and you wonder why people leave.

They fixed it now.

@Anung said:
As someone said, "this is a game with 7 years old" which has several MAJOR technical problems that the developer didn't wanted to adapt to the modern times in which we live, in addition to this, many people already see Tera as an outdated game and unlikely to continue playing, but nowadays the people who play tera are mostly players who have a lot of time and money invested, people who love to [filtered] " with elins too" and casual people who still cling to what was the game in their golden times, the only thing I liked about Tera in his last stages was the pvp, but after seeing all this of the completely death in the battleground and the uncontrolled use of 3rd party software that allows and promotes the use of exploits,scripts and unfair cheats, I will stay away from this game until something like a Tera 2 comes out "if it ever came out" with an updated engine, in the meantime I will return to black desert.

That part right there, the mods. This morning I was killing the monster for the superior guardian and I was at the top of the list. Someone came in with a weaker class with much lower gear/ilvl and hit it ONCE and suddenly had the top slot. And they were ahead by ALOT. There is no way without a mod. I see this all the time, people using mods have a huge advantage. I keep getting told I do no damage and that I am a bad player and every time I find out they are using a mod. I challenged one of them to try it without a mod. They did, and they did extremely poor damage compared to what they were doing. I am starting to find that to be an issue. I am not a bad player, I just don't use any type of a cheat, but it's making me not want to play again.

@Concepcion30 said:

@Fainall said:

@Elinu1 said:

@XxKingOfKnightzxX said:

i found that on the official tera korea homepage but cant read it . for me it looks like its actually already confirmed

am i the only one that noticed bunny ears and fox tail on that pic?

I also notice she has green eyes

I might be dating myself here but, a girl with green eyes? Big Trouble in Little China, anybody?

I love that movie so much!

@SageWindu you are right it's not on earth so yeah valks could be dudes I guess...

@RonLaw said:
I hate elins and don't play any. I made a ninja once and deleted it quite quickly. Just couldn't stand to look at it

I really do think they need to have male versions of everything but valkyries. Valkyries in mythology were always women so that does make sense and it would be odd to have male valkyries. But I don't get why they keep certain classes like ninja and gunner female? Sure I like elins, but I am a girl. There are lots of dudes playing this game who I am sure don't want to be cute little loli's, but want to play those classes. It makes no sense. I am rooting for the guys Ron! Get those male gunners and ninjas already!

@Elinu1 said:

@XxKingOfKnightzxX said:

i found that on the official tera korea homepage but cant read it . for me it looks like its actually already confirmed

am i the only one that noticed bunny ears and fox tail on that pic?

I also notice she has green eyes

If Tera 2 became reality that would be great as long as it didn't have open world pvp, gender/race locked classes and wasn't complete RNG and P2W. I would love it!

@TJKat said:

This has nothing to do with being lazy. You do realize some of us DO have characters at level 70 and know very well what the end-game grind is like? Why farm some dungeons for scales + caimans for one hour, when you could just farm caimans for 2 hours and be much further ahead?

But that is ONLY if real caimens spawn portals...as I said earlier that is NOT a guarantee. I farmed for two hours on an alt earlier this week and got nothing. We had 3 spawn...all fakes. Two hours and NO exp.

I agree with the OP as well. Everything you said is spot on. I agree with Kahgeo too. As I said in another thread, I think the players are truly suffering from RNG fatigue. I know I am. This new gear might be easier to enchant but it has more layers of RNG. Getting it to drop, getting the right kind (magic/phyical) with the right rolls, then enchanting it without breaking it, etc. We took the survey, we gave our feedback and while it seems as if they are almost trying, in some ways it also seems as if they are doing the opposite of what we asked for. I know lots of people asked for the same thing because we discussed it in discord, guild and on global.

@TJKat said:
No, the scrolls really are that bad. The whole point is to help people get to level 68, right? Level 67 - 68 alone is 24 billion xp; that's equal to 600 of these xp scrolls. Even using 20 at a time is a drop int he bucket. They're a fine little extra if you're running dungeons with the mindset that you'll get there eventually, but if you're trying to level at all quickly, you're hunting caimans since even with these scrolls as a bonus, caimans are still much, much faster. In 2 hours yesterday, I got more xp hunting caimans than I would have with 2 days worth of xp scrolls from scales.

The other day I did caimens for 2 hours, we got 3 fakes and no portals. It's RNG like everything else. At least the scrolls are a guarantee even if it's small. But once again the obvious choice was a simpler one, buff the caimen spawn rate. They always take the hardest route to get somewhere. I know they think the event will keep people playing, but if they buff the caimen spawn rate it will still get people playing. We all have alts to level. Alts we WANT to level but as it stands right now it would take years to level them all. This event will allow you to maybe level 1 or 2 depending on how much time you have.

@fromsector7 said:

"companies" need money ... They do not live on miracles. Video games are not a right, it is a luxury. enjoy the reality

I have always said that I get that it's a company and they need to earn money. I understand that part. But 3 bucks for a loot box...I have to think they are just pushing it to see what they can get away with. I would be much more likely to buy some if they were half that much. But I am not going to spend 3 bucks to get utter useless garbage in each one like niveots which have been rendered all but useless with the new gear. And you know the odds of getting the rare costumes from them is low. I saw three total go across the screen from people winning them while I was on today. So that means one of two things, either people just aren't buying them because they are too expensive or the drop rates are terrible.

@kori83 said:

@Fainall said:
I bought ONE of those new stupidly priced loot boxes and got 4 niveots out of it....seriously 3 bucks for a stupid loot box and this is what is in it? NO, just no. I am not buying one single loot box more if that crap is in there. And why are loot boxes 3 bucks each now???? That is just too much.

I thought you better than that, Fainall. =)
Buying a Loot Box ... tsk tsk

I know, temptation overtook me with the shiny black costume. But nope...no more not at 3 bucks a pop.

I bought ONE of those new stupidly priced loot boxes and got 4 niveots out of it....seriously 3 bucks for a stupid loot box and this is what is in it? NO, just no. I am not buying one single loot box more if that crap is in there.

Since the new gear shoved on us doesn't use crystals, don't you think it's pretty much time to remove niveots from loot boxes? They were a dud prize before, now they are just about worthless.

I love this idea but shudder over what the RNG would be to get them. Loot boxes would cost a fortune and it would be like the rainbow koi...nearly non existent.

@TJKat said:

@Fainall said:
Well if I can't even get it to +1 after 8 tries....yeah I don't really feel like trying again. Or grinding for mats. You have to have a little bit of success once in a while to have the desire to keep going.

I hate to break it to you, but you are not EME's target audience. They're focused on gambling addicts and people with more money than brains. People who will just keep throwing money at them no matter how bad they make the odds. The people who play the game to have fun are just along for the ride.

Wanting to have fun doesn't mean you don't spend money on the game. But never succeeding is a sure way to get people to STOP spending it.

Well if I can't even get it to +1 after 8 tries....yeah I don't really feel like trying again. Or grinding for mats. You have to have a little bit of success once in a while to have the desire to keep going.

I failed 5 times on +1 dark light.

At least they did the survey and want our input. I think that shows that they might listen to their users.

I filled it out! I want this game to go on for a long time, and I want it to be saved.

@Jerichow said:

I agree @counterpoint I really hope BHS will adjust the feedstock and gear rates in the future if possible. I love the idea of leveling up my alts gear, but I hate the idea of endless grind for said alts

Also, it would give me incentive to level up/gear up my alts. This new system that makes it so expensive and detrimental to upgrade pushes away the prospect of gearing up alts when it should be encouraged. I heard the argument made all the time in the past about, "We don't want the players to run out of things to do when they get the best gear, so we made gearing a much larger grind." - To me that's such a hollow and short-sighted excuse when we have players complaining about not having enough slots for all of their alts on all of the different servers.

I can't be the only one who, once I got my main to BiS, wouldn't even think twice about gearing up my alts; and with people having dozens of characters - sometimes on both servers, I refuse to believe people were getting bored with gearing up to the point where the game had to be changed to make getting one single character to BiS as the ultimate end goal.

This right here...I want to level up and gear up my alts, but I don't want to grind forever. I don't know why they think endless grinding is so much fun. And before anyone accuses me of just "wanting everything handed to me" that is not what I am saying. I am saying I just don't want to spend years gearing alts so if I want to play something else for a day I can.

Lazy players you say? Some of us worked for our HO for a YEAR. And I got it handed to me alright...after a YEAR working for it. I have yet to see anyone ever say they wanted anything handed to them on the forums. No one says that, no one asks for hand holding...where do you people come up with this stuff? Just because we don't want to grind our soul into oblivion only to be told it meant nothing because hey new stuff here you go start again! That doesn't make us lazy...it makes us tired. That is a vast difference. But you have fun on Euro. I'm sure it will be MUCH better for you there. You will have a whole new set of people to act superior to.

@MidokuPasta said:
I got to level 70 in a week and never once did I do caimens. I also started at level 1 and played 5 hours a day with no events running. It's really not that hard.

You have said this before...would you mind sharing how you did it in a week? Because I would be really interested to know. Before caimens it took me months to even get to 67.

@Melyodis said:

@Fainall said:
Everything on the game has become this never ending grindfest. I don't even care about the new gear. I am starting to lose complete interest in any of this game at this point. This gear was supposed to be easier to enchant, that was the whole point. Even though the obvious answer was to make HO rng odds better but nope...gotta keep you grinding just to fail over and over. Bleh so over it.

10000000% agree and it seems like krafton gave players work to do so we won't gear up fast like in the past to get bored but this is madness this new mess is all p2w but i'm glad for eme keep racking up them dollars. what easier to enchant? easier to enchant my foot stool.

Someone told me today that it took over 20 tries to get their blue gloves to +4...I don't see how that is easier?

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