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@feminzii
Also just gonna leave this here because seems fitting.

https://pastebin.com/5gSHMkRE

With this you are risking a great thread to be closed.
Jerichow wrote: »
this is what I said in a post I made and it got closed. I don't feel like I said anything wrong towards eme or the players. if I did, maybe someone could point out what I said that was wrong.

I suspect it was because the thread derailed and was a duplicate topic. They would like to keep all the feedback in one thread (although that thread is... something).

It is isn't it? It was really interesting until a few well-known dirt-kickers got on and did their typical mud-slinging and topic-derailing beefs with each other. Now it's just pages upon pages of ranting back and forth at each other.

The thread was good and chill until it reached page 3. There you can see the start from the spicy posts.
Berogi wrote: »
See, thing is, imo at least, the reason proxy is judged as 'invasive' towards the game files is ONLY the XIGNCODE bypass, which does something to block it from running or whatever. I'm not a coder nor have I looked into the code, but I do distinctly remember people being disclaimed that it does that.

Other than that it's basically a VPN with some overlays (at least the way I saw most people in my guild use it), ignoring the use of the auto vanguard and such modules that do simple in game actions for you.

I am pretty sure if Proxy devs wouldnt made that by-pass then EME would keep ignoring the Proxy matter.
Christin wrote: »
They aren't going to change their minds or reverse their actions.

I don't think you can un-dmca people so like, even if they change their minds this is irreversible

The process is that the people notified have to file a counter notice if they think it was filed in error, and then EME has to decide if they are going to seek an injunction (read: lawsuit). So, no you can't undo it, but the process could follow its course.

Quick question for you though, did you know about this decision before it was announced and blew up? Or is that sensitive information that I shouldn't be asking for :#

I bet no one from player council knew about this, because it is sensitive information within a business that you would not share with outsiders.
Thuking wrote: »
Starkhoe wrote: »
The tenacity of the masochists playing NA is almost as impressive as the staffs ability to avoid addressing this issue. Truly a power struggle on that one. So I estimate that it will take a month or two to die down after October 16, when the normal proxies and meters shut down, and the migrations to EU will come to a slow state of flux. By that point a large portion of the NA player base would have already settled in EU. This will probably cause a great deal of discomfort in EU, as their overall community has a different mindset then the NA community. Plus lets face it, nobody really wants to get flooded by BRs, and many of the NA players have grown accustom to EMEs incompetence, and they will bring that attitude over to EU. This will probably not be viewed kindly, neither by the EU community, or by the Gameforge staff. Which to my understanding, are more trigger happy then EME. I wouldn't be surprised if many NA players will get banned there over things they would not get banned here. But I digress...

Overall I give it around a half a year before Tera NA turns into Tera CH (as in Chicago). After that, I give NA something like 1-2 years before it dies out entirely. My suggestion: leave NA now, start fresh in EU. And if anyone asks you where your from, lie about it. If anything, ddmitting to playing along with EMEs nonsense is embarrassing by all accounts. You will probably make more friends this way. So I say, let the vultures and sheep continue to run circles in their graveyard. Eventually they will have no one else around but each other. And if these forums are any indication to how people get along, then that is a truly disturbing image. A foolish and slow end, for foolish and slow people. Seems fitting.

Well said, Im glad I made the move to EU earlier during ambush patch so I didn't invest all my time on NA servers so switching isn't hard for me though, a lot of friends are having to start from scratch so some are not even going to bother playing.

Moved to EU more than a year ago and still complaining in NA servers xD
Pwhoops wrote: »
JXG4WWHCMA wrote: »
log in using steam or facebook

@counterpoint
Had a friend log on my account and he was able to, it seems I've been IP banned and I have no clue why. No email was sent to notify me or anything of the sort, I'm an honest player, so I'm dumbfounded as to why this is happening. I hope support can fix it...

did you try to login with your PC from another location?

they dont need to ip ban you for you to not be able to login. some times packets are lost before they reach the servers and that is something out of EME's hands and out of your hands also. Happens sometimes, not often.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
I think it's about 14 threads now that they closed/deleted.

still no answer here :)

https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/13823/cheating-and-third-party-tools-in-tera-you-wont-believe-what-happens-next#latest

You had your anwers last year.

Now tell me exactly how is this a discussion on 3rd party programs?
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/29219/am-sad#latest

idk why am I even replying to a forum troll

by the way I think spamming is also against forum rules, you've copy pasta this same thing for several times now.

Nothing diferent of what your and those proxy cheaters are doing right now.

That's why your threads keep being closed and deleted, because you are only making spam non-stop from a thing that you already had your answer more than a year ago. Very trollish from you.

Now, I wonder if we are going to have a name wipe on December as Christmass =)
I think it's about 14 threads now that they closed/deleted.

still no answer here :)

https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/13823/cheating-and-third-party-tools-in-tera-you-wont-believe-what-happens-next#latest

You had your anwers last year.
Xerses wrote: »
Equitis is actually seandynamites alt account

We are all sean alts.
clfarron4 wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Nahev wrote: »
When they call you elitists because you want to see your damage and improve your rotations because you want to get better at the game bigLOL

If that is just for yourself is not elitism, if is for annoy your party members because they do 20% less damage than what you expect is a very different thing.

Have you ever even looked at moongourd? The insane amount of names on there? lol ... finding someone to bm you because of your dps is rare now a days because most ppl know it's a bannable offense, so idek why you even mention it... All i ever see is people say "dps meter is for elitists" with no foking screensots to show when/where it happened to them where they were bm'd for their dps. Also, a foking block button exists for a reason... if someone IS being bm then just block em.. ezpz. OR you can idk , screenshot and report? lol

They had there their wall of shame with names of players doing not as good as others.

That is a way to shame others.

Enought reason to praise EME for his good job against cheaters and toxic people like them.

The Wall of Shame obfuscates the names so unless you know which people specifically which run via sources external to Moongourd, no-one knows who you are.

Ah, I forgot to mention, if you wanted your name not showing there you had to pay those criminals xD

So they not only were doing something against TERA NA rules but also charged players to not show their names in that page. A typical minor offense but a criminal act nontheless.
Nahev wrote: »
When they call you elitists because you want to see your damage and improve your rotations because you want to get better at the game bigLOL

If that is just for yourself is not elitism, if is for annoy your party members because they do 20% less damage than what you expect is a very different thing.

Have you ever even looked at moongourd? The insane amount of names on there? lol ... finding someone to bm you because of your dps is rare now a days because most ppl know it's a bannable offense, so idek why you even mention it... All i ever see is people say "dps meter is for elitists" with no foking screensots to show when/where it happened to them where they were bm'd for their dps. Also, a foking block button exists for a reason... if someone IS being bm then just block em.. ezpz. OR you can idk , screenshot and report? lol

They had there their wall of shame with names of players doing not as good as others.

That is a way to shame others.

Enought reason to praise EME for his good job against cheaters and toxic people like them.
Digivolve wrote: »
> @Equitas said:
> For a company that is supposedly losing players "by the minute", there sure are an awful lot of people still here.

Can i get a screenshot of lfg at peak hours, possibly velika or highwatch too?

Before this, after the merge, you had on Velika server 5 pages of LFG but all were WTS things. Same thing on Kaiator Server so that proves nothing. All this month even after the merge almost no one has been using the LFG for dungeon parties.
Margarethe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Magichan wrote: »
Can we get vanilla CMs too?

The ones who allowed cheaters? No ty.

Do not believe CM's have a saying in that.
Seems you're a little obsessed.

You seem to not remember how Tonka got his [filtered] wiped in a BG from someone using a scrip, and he did nothing because most people using scrips in that time were "the comunity he played often" and the cheaters protected by him.
VirtualON wrote: »
ElinUsagi is so fuking dumb even his GIF betrayes his idea and he keeps posting it. Irrelevant erplords defending EME.

Still waiting for him to define what 3rd pt program is not allowed. Ofc he will ignore when owned by reason and logic.

You already got your answer from Noesis last year, you people are so blind or are idiots that cant read.
clfarron4 wrote: »
clfarron4 wrote: »
Also, no guild won CU on Velika.
@clfarron4 wait what do you mean no guild won CU? What happened?

In CU, the winning condition is that there is a single guild tower standing before the two hours are up. And the game will say "X won CU".

Anything else is a losing condition and the game will say "Velika is free". In this case, there were multiple guild towers standing at the end of CU. The guilds still get ranked, but the game counts it as no-one winning.

So no one even bothered doing CU is what you're saying, because man multiple towers up by the end of it? Legit first time hearing that.

We had all bams, diferent as Kaiator that cant defend towers until all bams are farmed.
Magichan wrote: »
Can we get vanilla CMs too?

The ones who allowed cheaters? No ty.
Imagine being Elinusagi but irrelevant ingame and only known to be as a forum hero. That must suck.

Imagine TERA without Proxy.

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Na Refugees

Proxy is a baneable offense at Gameforge TERA version.
9N9E7CWFRE wrote: »
This whole proxy discussion/drama just shows how uninformed or ignorant a lot of people are. Let me emphasize this: We're *not* the black hat people exploiting the game. Neither do we have the intention to be. Those people who misquoted obvious jokes I made about using exploits to harm NA as threats from my side are just trying to spin things around so that they match their perspective.


"Let me clarify this a bit:

We, the third-party developers keep reminding people to turn off SP in PvP situations because we're aware of the fact that it's not perfect and can lead to desyncs and other behavior that could give you an unfair advantage. SaltyMonkey, the main developer of SP for my proxy, has spent countless hours every day working on improving SP, adding support for stuns/fears/etc to reduce the impact it has even if someone decides to abuse it in PvP.

Caali and other unnamed developers"

There you have it, they admit they brought a broken tool to the game that can be abused and they want us to believe him that his words "pls proxy users dont make exploits from our mods" are true. They are not and they admit that they havent fixed the issues it brought.

So I will quote the same shet people defending proxy spam "first fix your shet before spreading a broken tool into the game".
You must be living on a different planet. On Earth, Germany economy grew by over 2%.
But whatever, keep believing in your propaganda, no one cares, Trumpkin.

We are done talking.

Germany economy has a growth of 6 and 4% few years ago. Now do you see their economy is losing ground? :D
Pwhoops wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Huv wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Huv wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Huv wrote: »
You should tell BHS to fix their game before releasing it.

You have the option to not playing it.

Whats the point of this argument? Telling players to quit doesnt exactly solve any of mEME's problems. If too many players leave as a result of the publisher's decision, then there wont be anyone to play with. Have fun playing with ur friends in an empty Tera. Though I doubt u have many friends if any at all. :lol:

I know enought people that doesnt use proxy and cheats to be just fine. Clearing content doing friend runs and even dont have issues on IM in the hours I play right now.

Maybe it is other people who is not going to have more cheater friends to fill a mere 5 man party.

You can't IM relevant endgame dungeons and it's clear by the way you speak that you don't run any. Have fun doing KC all night.

Learn to read first then come back later. I never said I only use IM so you are only one more cheater crying because its not entitled to cheat anymore.

Go and learn how to clear dungeons without using cheats and comeback once you already passed the leveling quests without it xD

Must be nice clearing Highwatch-AFK Extreme

Dress doll Ultimate Mode.
GE isn't Germany, that would be DE. And that country is doing just fine.
One can't say the same about your US, the laughing stock of the world, which slides into 3rd world territory with each passing day.

Doing so fine that your econony has fallen more than 30% that it used to be, just look at your currency value and compare it of what was 5 years ago.

You economy is in the verge of colapse and it will be funny when your laws has to be rewritten to protect business from malicious customers. xD
Huv wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Huv wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Huv wrote: »
You should tell BHS to fix their game before releasing it.

You have the option to not playing it.

Whats the point of this argument? Telling players to quit doesnt exactly solve any of mEME's problems. If too many players leave as a result of the publisher's decision, then there wont be anyone to play with. Have fun playing with ur friends in an empty Tera. Though I doubt u have many friends if any at all. :lol:

I know enought people that doesnt use proxy and cheats to be just fine. Clearing content doing friend runs and even dont have issues on IM in the hours I play right now.

Maybe it is other people who is not going to have more cheater friends to fill a mere 5 man party.

You can't IM relevant endgame dungeons and it's clear by the way you speak that you don't run any. Have fun doing KC all night.

Learn to read first then come back later. I never said I only use IM so you are only one more cheater crying because its not entitled to cheat anymore.

Go and learn how to clear dungeons without using cheats and comeback once you already passed the leveling quests without it xD
Gatokatzen wrote: »
People that leave the game is the ones with terrible ping or hardcore ping dependants.
A lot of people stay . But wont be the same cause even competitive north america players are leaving.

If you have a game that were played by almost 1700 persons the last two months.
And after this you get barely 700 or less players.

Things wont be good

But, but... Proxy users have claimed that 20k players are leaving the game xD
Greece was never a strong economy at all, it's actually been one of the smallest, and it's their own gov who screwed them over, not the EU gov. Do some research instead of watching foxnews.

I mentioned GE, I wonder if you ever know what does that point. Hint: Germany
Huv wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Huv wrote: »
You should tell BHS to fix their game before releasing it.

You have the option to not playing it.

Whats the point of this argument? Telling players to quit doesnt exactly solve any of mEME's problems. If too many players leave as a result of the publisher's decision, then there wont be anyone to play with. Have fun playing with ur friends in an empty Tera. Though I doubt u have many friends if any at all. :lol:

I know enought people that doesnt use proxy and cheats to be just fine. Clearing content doing friend runs and even dont have issues on IM in the hours I play right now.

Maybe it is other people who is not going to have more cheater friends to fill a mere 5 man party.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
They will have no other choice but to bend the knee to bussiness and they will have to rewrite their laws so the people dont have that much power to abuse of bussiness as they have been doing so far.

If they don't change their way then their money will be worth the same as SA countries money.

That's nothing but western anti-EU propaganda. In reality, the EU has the best consumer protection laws in the world.

But it is what is happening. Or do you forget how GE banks were screwed by "people abusing the law protecting them" and make an huge impact in that country (one of the strongest economies over there). If they continue to protect that much the people then will be hit right and left from those criminals because those laws only protect them and thus their economies will continue to collapse. EU economy has been dragged at least 30% of what it was thanks to those "consumer protection laws" in these last 5 years.
ItzMirai wrote: »
EU has some worse problems to worry about unfortunately..

And what would that be?

Their laws protect criminals and their economy rules are about to make many countries to be on the verge of collapse.

They will have no other choice but to bend the knee to bussiness and they will have to rewrite their laws so the people dont have that much power to abuse of bussiness as they have been doing so far.

If they don't change their way then their money will be worth the same as SA countries money.
Na Refugees
Huv wrote: »
You should tell BHS to fix their game before releasing it.

You have the option to not playing it.
Pwhoops wrote: »
@Huv
You should tell people like U.F.C to stop injecting and cheating, because of people like him those who use proxy like me will have to leave for EU or stop playing.
Huv wrote: »
You realize all the people going to EU use proxy right? You'll just see him there again anyways.

Na Refugees
Maulclaw wrote: »
This is a serious question.

I played on the European servers for years before switching over to the North American ones, and I couldnt't help but notice that it seems like Enmasse is the team behind translating and voicing everything that ends up being shipped over to Gameforge. Even though Gameforge has hired a few british actors to voice some of their trailers, the real product always ends up being voiced by people over at the States. Even the writing in most of the quests is typically american.

What would happen to Gameforge if Enmasse was to shut its doors and cease development for TERA? What would Bluehole even do in a situation like this given that this company belongs to them?

Regardless of EME outcome, you should not fear about that on EU servers. They will continue to be publishers of TERA until the game is no more profitable, if it is enought profitable they will hire their own voice actors and stuff.
Vabe wrote: »
This whole proxy discussion/drama just shows how uninformed or ignorant a lot of people are. Let me emphasize this: We're *not* the black hat people exploiting the game. Neither do we have the intention to be. Those people who misquoted obvious jokes I made about using exploits to harm NA as threats from my side are just trying to spin things around so that they match their perspective.


"Let me clarify this a bit:

We, the third-party developers keep reminding people to turn off SP in PvP situations because we're aware of the fact that it's not perfect and can lead to desyncs and other behavior that could give you an unfair advantage. SaltyMonkey, the main developer of SP for my proxy, has spent countless hours every day working on improving SP, adding support for stuns/fears/etc to reduce the impact it has even if someone decides to abuse it in PvP.

Caali and other unnamed developers"

There you have it, they admit they brought a broken tool to the game that can be abused and they want us to believe him that his words "pls proxy users dont make exploits from our mods" are true. They are not and they admit that they havent fixed the issues it brought.

So I will quote the same shet people defending proxy spam "first fix your shet before spreading a broken tool into the game".
ElinUsagi wrote: »
do you have to uninstall tera na to play tera eu?

why on earth would you want to keep tera na installed? it's nothing more than a total waste of HDD space.

You still using HDD on these days?

not gonna waste precious SSD space on this sluggish game, it's so badly optimised that it'd hardly make a difference anyway.

That's much better.
do you have to uninstall tera na to play tera eu?

why on earth would you want to keep tera na installed? it's nothing more than a total waste of HDD space.

You still using HDD on these days?
Fanciful wrote: »
Kiehleon wrote: »
hmmm.. EU servers are located in Europe right? would that server have higher ping for US based players?

Yeah, but I'm supposing people can still get away with using proxies for EU tera.

Na Refugees

Use of Proxy is not allowed and you can get banned if they find out you are using it.
Na Refugees
Nekooxchan wrote: »
An actual suggestion and some constructive criticism: make TERA NA a MMO dress-up game.
Odd suggestion, but at this point this is your best route IMO. It can attract new players while also being interesting old ones who want to wander through the game, do a dungeon or two but focus mostly on fashion. The casuals would probably enjoy this.

Seriously. If you guys want some income from this game just hire some 3D modelers and fashion designers or whatever(I honestly do not know how it works, but since BHS can add costumes I assume you can too).

Getting the rights from BHS to add costumes to the game shouldn't be as difficult as changing your ToS. (Not an attack by the way, it's just been years and nothing changed in that regard, might as well try something different)

If the game isn't labelled as "action combat MMORPG" but "MMORPG focused on fashion with bonus action combat", people will care less about the combat and the whole drama with Third-Party Programs becomes meaningless.

It is what has been since 2012/2013.

Everyone knows TERA failed heavily at launch because most people didnt like that game and in Korea collapsed in 1 year, at NA it collapsed in 4 months and something similar world wide.

TERA was saved because of Elins and cash shop costumes. The game has been since then a dress-up game but some people can't remember that.
emphysema wrote: »

yeh. I was about to reply lol, when I saw a message that i cant reply anymore due to thread not existing anymore. luckily still got it


"Let me clarify this a bit:

We, the third-party developers keep reminding people to turn off SP in PvP situations because we're aware of the fact that it's not perfect and can lead to desyncs and other behavior that could give you an unfair advantage. SaltyMonkey, the main developer of SP for my proxy, has spent countless hours every day working on improving SP, adding support for stuns/fears/etc to reduce the impact it has even if someone decides to abuse it in PvP.

Caali and other unnamed developers"


There you have it, they admit they brought a broken tool to the game that can be abused and they want us to believe him that his words "pls proxy users dont make exploits from our mods" are true. They are not and they admit that they havent fixed the issues it brought.

So I will quote the same shet people defending proxy spam "first fix your shet before spreading a broken tool into the game".
CornishRex wrote: »
It is called a NORTH AMERICAN server for a reason.

This means the server is located in NORTH AMERICA....

It seems people have forgotten the location of a NORTH AMERICAN server...

So did eme put the portugese and spanish translations of the forums because it's only meant for north americans? Please.

That is for console version, one where proxy is not allowed either and players are doing top tier dungeons without it and without dps meter either.
lcsgarcia wrote: »
It is called a NORTH AMERICAN server for a reason.

This means the server is located in NORTH AMERICA....

It seems people have forgotten the location of a NORTH AMERICAN server...

So why your publisher allow others countries to play it? And even worst, make partners with local companies in other regions to facilitate the purchase of EMP?

We only serve as an "extra income"?

When BDO launcher in NA, it was IP block because they would open a propper server in other regions.
But NOT EME. They want our money but doens't want us in the game?

I am not blocked from playing BDO on NA or EU even if my region has his own server. So?
Saabi wrote: »
73K5HJREXP wrote: »
look like integrity person? common knowledge that proxy will return because of others but look like they want to just peacefully support game~part_2.png

other has say that developer will release things like auto delete inventory gbank and character for those who continue on na.
look how behavior is after true color reveal! if they really care they will leave for others to continue but look like they want to do much destruction. took two day to happen!

You're missing a crucial part of the story. There were people trying to build a new proxy using Caali's work as base without asking permission. Caali retaliated by saying he was gonna block or do whatever he was implying if they used his work, after he stated he's no longer supporting NA proxy. Which I can take as, he doesn't want any of his work being used for any proxy for NA Tera. Take that for what you will.

Anyways, I'm interested to see how eme recovers from this one.

He doesnt want his work being used by others without his permision but he wants to use BHS work to profit without BHS permision.

What an hipocrital being, tipical from a criminal that should just be in jail.
TJKat wrote: »
Berogi wrote: »
I just dawned on me.. What if they did all this in order to fix the talent problem? :thinking:

I'm being legit with this --> I'm always being impressed by how creative EME's solutions can be, I could've never thought of this.

You're right! With no end-game players in end-game gear, there really won't be a need for a large amount of talents, so the pathetic supply they've so "generously" left us will be more than adequate.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Maybe they did this to fix the lag and fps issues :astonished:

No. Even if there was only one player left in the game directly connected to the server with a few feet of cable, I'm sure there would still be lag and fps issues.

Sorry, it was mean to be a joke and you are right, the issues wont change no matter the amount of people playing at the same time.

So, this time people should make a decision, if they dont like the game as it is then they should not play it. It just not make sense people are being such masoquists that continue doing something that makes them so tilted avout everything.
Maulclaw wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
You can add to the CHINA release, it was on 2014. Many people says the shutdown was because the game was too old to compete vs the MMOs that were already on China market.

I don't suppose you know the url of the chinese version of the game?

Sadly not, I dont know official sources for that matter.

https://technology.ihs.com/440043/kunlun-game-acquires-tera-debut-test-phase-in-october

https://mmoculture.com/2016/06/tera-kunlun-games-and-bluehole-confirms-closure-of-china-server/
Berogi wrote: »
I just dawned on me.. What if they did all this in order to fix the talent problem? :thinking:

I'm being legit with this --> I'm always being impressed by how creative EME's solutions can be, I could've never thought of this.

Maybe they did this to fix the lag and fps issues :astonished:
You can add to the CHINA release, it was on 2014. Many people says the shutdown was because the game was too old to compete vs the MMOs that were already on China market.
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ElinLove wrote: »
llllll wrote: »
Equitas wrote: »
These guys were literally fixing the issues your game had for 0 profit. You guys profited from their work.
Even if you guys DO implement ping compensation into your game, the game won't be as active as it was before, because you guys literally just showed how out of touch with the playerbase you are and ultimately, you showed us that you don't even care. People will come back, but not active as it had been post-merge up until now.

So with that, I say; Have fun focusing on Kritika, AVA, and Closers! It's been a nice 6 years!

Joined 12:47pm
Avroraa wrote: »
AVA shut down 3 months ago lmao

Joined 7:24am

Does it matter when they joined if they're stating facts?

The only fact I saw was the AVA shutdown tho. The rest is just the same exaggeration and holding the devs in a pedestal as all the other threads. The rest of the 1st comment is all opinion as well. Opinions aren't facts.

They are the same people who argued steam numbers were the oficial amount of players playng TERA (1k) and it is funny how now these guys says that EME will lose +20k players.

They are nothing more than lairs, cheaters and delincuents (devs).
Solheim wrote: »
Can you imagine Tera if there had never been a need for proxy devs?

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Starkhoe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Yet they are the same devs who made memeslash and leaked into the comunity and later playing dumb. They are just criminals, nothing else.

You still didnt answer my question. Do you feel like all proxy users are cheaters? don`t worry. I will not attempt to confront you. I`m simply interested in your opinion.

I already answered you, supporting devs that make cheats is also an offense and its worst if you support them even when you know that what they are doing is illegal. Ignorance will only help you to get a lesser punishment but if you are aware that what they are doing is actually against the rules then you are not better than them.

You made me that same question in another thread and I answered you. I won't reapeat myslelf about that every time and if my answer was deleted for whatever reason for some mod I wont bother to make it again.
sanj66 wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
sanj66 wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Starkhoe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Players on EU are complaining about NA refuugees because of their hacks, it is only a matter or time GF takes action against those cheaters.

I`m not surprised. The EU community is softer and more spoiled in terms of expenses, their game runs differently. However, I feel compelled to asked out of sheer curiosity. ElinUsagi. Ignore what other people say in your reply to me, please. I would like to know how do you feel about the use of third party software? do you feel like every person that uses a proxy does so for the intention of cheating?

I know not all people using 3rd party software are cheating into the game but the devs from those programs keep making cheats for others who paid them so if you are supporting their software then you are supporting also the cheats they make for those who pay them.

This would never happened if those devs wouldnt try to enforce their tools as an oficial tools and fighting every single time to force eme to kneel to their demands. The game was never owned by those devs so they should accept the termns of the game or leave, that is what any adult with common sense will do.

again you are completely uninformed and wrong here, those devs that had their repositories nuked by a false dmca fixed a lot of the hacks and glitches and offered to help eme, do you know what happened? they were ignore, the players were ignored and their accounts were banned, any adult with common sense would see ow wrong you are and would know what they are talking about before they spoke. fangrl/fanboy/whiteknight all you want.

Those same devs admited they developed memeslash and for some unknown reason they got stolen the code and spread into the comunity, they are just lairs, making profit from idiots that think they own the game.

the only liar and thats the proper spelling here is just you my friend sorry, but who ever is feeding you that information just literally wants to see you make a fool of yourself as you are doing right now while being misinformed.

Sorry I posted official info from Gameforge and you posted the words from a illegal scripter. Your liars only will be heard by other cheaters or idiots.
Starkhoe wrote: »
Shinku89 wrote: »
Who stays exactly? This, THIS, is the sealing deal of lots of players in tera NA. Including me. Just because I lurk in this forum doesn't mean I play it. I haven't opened the launcher for several days, and not going to either.

And you are, I am assuming, a high latency player which feels like they can no longer enjoy the game, knowing of how unequal it is for people that don`t use proxies. If your a cheater thats a different story, but if you are not, then this basically mean that you only used a proxy so that you will be able to enjoy your classes, they way that they are meant to be played - the way that the developers themselves wanted them to be played.

Proxies are no the enemy, they were the salvation for people that wanted to play decently. And if you read abit about the proxy communities, you will notice that they do not advocate cheating and that they ban known scripters.The people that made the proxies just wanted a more fair leveling filed for people whose ping was so high, they knew they were unable to measure themselves again snowflake Chicago heroes. As you have stated yourself previously, you have left NA Tera supposedly forthat reason alone. Meaning, you didnt feel like you wanted to cheat, you just wanted to experience the game fairly, and you knew that was not possible with your current ping. You are just one of many.

I think that people like this BlueKoR are happy because finally the bottom feeders get a chance to shine. Tho it is most likely that they will still end up being copy cats, and will not come up with original stuff on their own.

Yet they are the same devs who made memeslash and leaked into the comunity and later playing dumb. They are just criminals, nothing else.
sanj66 wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Starkhoe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Players on EU are complaining about NA refuugees because of their hacks, it is only a matter or time GF takes action against those cheaters.

I`m not surprised. The EU community is softer and more spoiled in terms of expenses, their game runs differently. However, I feel compelled to asked out of sheer curiosity. ElinUsagi. Ignore what other people say in your reply to me, please. I would like to know how do you feel about the use of third party software? do you feel like every person that uses a proxy does so for the intention of cheating?

I know not all people using 3rd party software are cheating into the game but the devs from those programs keep making cheats for others who paid them so if you are supporting their software then you are supporting also the cheats they make for those who pay them.

This would never happened if those devs wouldnt try to enforce their tools as an oficial tools and fighting every single time to force eme to kneel to their demands. The game was never owned by those devs so they should accept the termns of the game or leave, that is what any adult with common sense will do.

again you are completely uninformed and wrong here, those devs that had their repositories nuked by a false dmca fixed a lot of the hacks and glitches and offered to help eme, do you know what happened? they were ignore, the players were ignored and their accounts were banned, any adult with common sense would see ow wrong you are and would know what they are talking about before they spoke. fangrl/fanboy/whiteknight all you want.

Those same devs admited they developed memeslash and for some unknown reason they got stolen the code and spread into the comunity, they are just lairs, making profit from idiots that think they own the game.
Starkhoe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Players on EU are complaining about NA refuugees because of their hacks, it is only a matter or time GF takes action against those cheaters.

I`m not surprised. The EU community is softer and more spoiled in terms of expenses, their game runs differently. However, I feel compelled to asked out of sheer curiosity. ElinUsagi. Ignore what other people say in your reply to me, please. I would like to know how do you feel about the use of third party software? do you feel like every person that uses a proxy does so for the intention of cheating?

I know not all people using 3rd party software are cheating into the game but the devs from those programs keep making cheats for others who paid them so if you are supporting their software then you are supporting also the cheats they make for those who pay them.

This would never happened if those devs wouldnt try to enforce their tools as an oficial tools and fighting every single time to force eme to kneel to their demands. The game was never owned by those devs so they should accept the termns of the game or leave, that is what any adult with common sense will do.
Thuking wrote: »
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ElinUsagi is always wrong just ignore them

Oh yeah, the words from a cheater has more weight than the own CM and Moderators words from GF.

Typical way to try to make a lair into a truth.

Good ridance from cheaters and hope you get banned at EU because they have the same rules than EME about your cheats.

Players on EU are complaining about NA refuugees because of their hacks, it is only a matter or time GF takes action against those cheaters.
Meningitis wrote: »
VirtualON wrote: »
Na Tera will die on the 16 Oct. The proxy dev will release exploits specific for NA region will ensure the game die even faster. Because EME pissed off the devs. Enjoy your last days of a dead game.
That's disgusting. Hopefully legal action will be taken against him.

They are only proving that EME is in the right. Just see those threats they made, those devs doesnt care about the game of their players, they only care about their profits and each time EME had taken actions against their cheats they do the same [filtered], screwing those Players who dont use their cheats "releasing" more exploits just to get revenge on EME for something they are not even entitled to do.

And it is funny how there are some people defending those criminals.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Tsin wrote: »
First, before I start, kudos to that gem of a statement you've got there. Making assumptions of the entire player base just because you're upset AND you can't string together a single sentence with proper grammar? I'm in awe.

Veteran player here, playing from eastern Canada. Like way-out kind of east. Ping is between 40-60ms, though some days it dips even lower. Never used a proxy in my life, and don't bother with DPS meters. Can say the same with my guild - most of whom are also veterans - who've never touched a proxy and also don't use DPS meters. They're scattered across the states playing on high end PCs, potato PCs, etc. All have good ping. Some of us have spent an absurd amount of money on this game, some of us have spent fifty bucks since beta, but we're all fairly loyal to Tera.

We're still all playing and will continue to play, so I guess your statement (if you can even call it that) is wrong.
HMU if you need help putting a cohesive reply together though.

Ive read your post and im 100 % sure you arent one of the top players nor can put a HM dungeon on a farm / clear it even. Id be very suprised if or your friends are either one of those. Most likely just casuals getting carried by top players. Good luck with that after there is none left

Good ridance, one less cheater in the game.

You mean one less person carrying shits like you ?

No, just one less cheater from the game.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Words from your beloved GF comunity manager (Nyoka) about 3rd party software:
It has come to our attention that the in game usage of exploits and cheats that allow for an unfair gameplay advantage in both PvP and PvE contents has been increasing.
While in the past we’ve tolerated partial usage of non-malicious tools in Europe, we are convinced that blocking malicious usages must be a priority to protect the integrity of the game and believe this is in the best interest of the TERA community.

So I hope you get fun leveling your characters, spending money if you ever did that in the game and later get banned because GF stance about this is no diferent than EME and sooner or later they will enforce similar actions.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Words from your beloved GF comunity manager (Nyoka) about 3rd party software:
It has come to our attention that the in game usage of exploits and cheats that allow for an unfair gameplay advantage in both PvP and PvE contents has been increasing.
While in the past we’ve tolerated partial usage of non-malicious tools in Europe, we are convinced that blocking malicious usages must be a priority to protect the integrity of the game and believe this is in the best interest of the TERA community.

So I hope you get fun leveling your characters, spending money if you ever did that in the game and later get banned because GF stance about this is no diferent than EME and sooner or later they will enforce similar actions.

You realize that quote is from last year right. Wishful thinking of a foolish person who barely plays the game but likes to type a lot on the forum.

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August 30th 2018

Gameforge staff member.

Shiro is not a gameforge staff member. We talk to the dude a lot. Get your facts straight and stop spewing [filtered]

You can look at words from Nyoka, the community manager.

Lying doesnt suit you... right?

LMFAO you are so delusional I cant even begin to fathom my sanity in engaging in conversation with you. I just cant anymore. A person just reaches a point where they should just stop, but you... oh boy. I should just stop taking the bait. In fact, im just going to do that. The difference is :

1) Posting pretty much guides about everything new that is coming out
2) Actually talking to their community and replying in forums
3) Working hand to hand with their community to make better playing experience
4) Their streams actually talk about game and not how they dont know the game
5) Did I mention they actually run content as well with their community and dont go in blind without knowing anything about their game
6) They arent really arrogant and misleading with their information
7) Pretty sure they dont really ban people for speaking their mind and then after they [filtered] up sweep it under rug like nothing happened ( youve done plenty of that last 6 months )
8) They actually make their own vids and pictures about upcoming content... did I mention the guides? Glance at point number 1
9) Coming up with new content on their own, again, trying to actually keep their playerbase instead of trying everything to get rid of them
10) Wait a minute... Gameforge pretty much said no to Xincode. I didnt want to bring this one up but damn... why the hell not

This is everything En masse isnt and then some more, respectively. That is the difference... and it goes on and on and. Oh and... En masse lies. A lot. Its like a kid with a tantrum. Lie and point fingers

Looking at how you cant read I will post it for you outside the previous quotes, now that I see your don't even know how to do it:

Words from your beloved GF comunity manager (Nyoka) about 3rd party software:
It has come to our attention that the in game usage of exploits and cheats that allow for an unfair gameplay advantage in both PvP and PvE contents has been increasing.
While in the past we’ve tolerated partial usage of non-malicious tools in Europe, we are convinced that blocking malicious usages must be a priority to protect the integrity of the game and believe this is in the best interest of the TERA community.

So I hope you get fun leveling your characters, spending money if you ever did that in the game and later get banned because GF stance about this is no diferent than EME and sooner or later they will enforce similar actions.
CornishRex wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Words from your beloved GF comunity manager (Nyoka) about 3rd party software:
It has come to our attention that the in game usage of exploits and cheats that allow for an unfair gameplay advantage in both PvP and PvE contents has been increasing.
While in the past we’ve tolerated partial usage of non-malicious tools in Europe, we are convinced that blocking malicious usages must be a priority to protect the integrity of the game and believe this is in the best interest of the TERA community.

So I hope you get fun leveling your characters, spending money if you ever did that in the game and later get banned because GF stance about this is no diferent than EME and sooner or later they will enforce similar actions.

You realize that quote is from last year right. Wishful thinking of a foolish person who barely plays the game but likes to type a lot on the forum.

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August 30th 2018

Gameforge staff member.

Sorry to break it to you, but shiro is exactly what it says, a moderator on the forums. He doesn't work for gameforge, he's a player. And even so, in that statement he's clearly expressing that gf tolerates dps meter which eme does not as seen from their recent actions.

Read my post above and look at their Comunity Manager words about 3rd party software. The stance is the same as EME.
Tsin wrote: »
First, before I start, kudos to that gem of a statement you've got there. Making assumptions of the entire player base just because you're upset AND you can't string together a single sentence with proper grammar? I'm in awe.

Veteran player here, playing from eastern Canada. Like way-out kind of east. Ping is between 40-60ms, though some days it dips even lower. Never used a proxy in my life, and don't bother with DPS meters. Can say the same with my guild - most of whom are also veterans - who've never touched a proxy and also don't use DPS meters. They're scattered across the states playing on high end PCs, potato PCs, etc. All have good ping. Some of us have spent an absurd amount of money on this game, some of us have spent fifty bucks since beta, but we're all fairly loyal to Tera.

We're still all playing and will continue to play, so I guess your statement (if you can even call it that) is wrong.
HMU if you need help putting a cohesive reply together though.

Ive read your post and im 100 % sure you arent one of the top players nor can put a HM dungeon on a farm / clear it even. Id be very suprised if or your friends are either one of those. Most likely just casuals getting carried by top players. Good luck with that after there is none left

Good ridance, one less cheater in the game.
Tydarius wrote: »
Dunno what delusional drug you, (I wanna say 50 or so people), who collectively decided to stomp your feet, take your ball and go home and play on EU are taking, but all weekend long I've noticed NO DROP in active players. None. Every single queue upto 65 thats always had active participants has had the same, (if not more), active participants as its always had.

So.../golf clap for your effort?

Too bad for you though, your continued attempts to try and persuade the majority of Tera NA players to join your insignificant minority of players crusade has failed, miserably.

So once again allow me to bid you all a fond farewall and...please be sure to not allow the door to hit your collective arses on the way out.

HAVE FUN IN EU while you hash out your little tantrums and finally decide to come back. ;)

They are not welcome in EU either

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GF stance is the same as EME and they will sooner or later enforce the same actions against cheaters. But obviously they will first drain them the few money they may spend in the game, because most of them dont spend on it anyway, and then Happy New year without cheetos.
Avroraa wrote: »
They can't reconsider their proxy stance or they will be admitting they submitted a false dmca, which is illegal. Also the proxy devs are not coming back to do anything with NA, even if EME allows it the proxy devs are long gone now.

Devs making ilegal scrips and ilegal software complaining about legal issues :,v

What a meme.
Equitas wrote: »
The server merge was the name wipe. Couldn't you have at least waited a couple months to make this thread?

Sorry... You know... The exitement... I am guessing what names I could get after some people leave the game.
Hanuishi wrote: »
No point in a name wipe now since they accidentally did one with the merge. There's no names to snatch up since most ppl saved them already.

We are going to have some people with many atls leaving the game for good and names should be released.
Words from your beloved GF comunity manager (Nyoka) about 3rd party software:
It has come to our attention that the in game usage of exploits and cheats that allow for an unfair gameplay advantage in both PvP and PvE contents has been increasing.
While in the past we’ve tolerated partial usage of non-malicious tools in Europe, we are convinced that blocking malicious usages must be a priority to protect the integrity of the game and believe this is in the best interest of the TERA community.

So I hope you get fun leveling your characters, spending money if you ever did that in the game and later get banned because GF stance about this is no diferent than EME and sooner or later they will enforce similar actions.
Solheim wrote: »
@Waitress I’d actually appreciate names of a few mmos that are like Tera if Tera isn’t one-of-a-kind anymore.
I’ve seen too many people saying that but never naming any games.

People left to play BnS and came back to TERA after few months, People left to play Revelations On-line and cameback after few months, People left to play BDO and came back to TERA after few months, People left to play Bless On-line and came back in less than a month.

There are no better MMORPG than TERA out there that is FREE action.

WoW is tab target and Warframe is not the same genre as TERA, if people are going to compare warframe with MMORPGs then they may include Destiny into the equation and even MOBAs like LoL, DotA and Overwatch, but again it is not the same gnere.
Not sure how many weeks after the merge EME meant for that but this going to be a good oportunity.

We may get the oportunity to get names from inactive accounts.
Catservant wrote: »
In my case there was no race change, just a server transfer. I have my APEX skills and the title. My glyphs were reset to 0 and now only have a total of 55.

This is my first time back the server merge,

I noticed that there are now couple of new quests: Any Missing Belongings? and A Gift for the Goddess. The former does not address the issue. Checking on the latter. I'm certain that you have all figured this out by now.
YUMEKA wrote: »
Characters that transferred server and race changed afterwards are losing their awakening skills, having them all reset back.

Sequence of events:
1. Server Transfer with an APEX class
2. Loses 5 awakened glyph points due to character metadata on APEX flag being reset back to null. (At this point, EME will mail you the extra glyph point item, which does not solve the issue. Your character metadata will still show apex available)
3. Race change afterwards. At this point in time, because of race change, it re-reads your entire character metadata and revises skillsets, and recognizes you are apex eligible, therefore giving you all the un-awakened skills. The issue comes here, we are not able to complete APEX quest again because in the quest log, we completed it. This leaves us with 0/60 glyph points with no awakening skills.

A couple of people and myself have emailed EME support on this issue, but the response given back was the same. "There are no fix to this issue, please come back later."

Please help, typing it in so everyone knows of this issue.

Neither quest will help--you need to send a support ticket.

Include Name of character, name of server before

Name after (if you had to change it) Name of server after,

class, race, gender

Details of what happened.

I'm not certain why this affected you, as up to this point is has been only with server transfers, not from the merge.

Thank you for confirming that the quests will not remedy the situation. And thank you for the information to include a support ticket. I have multiple APEX characters that were affected by this. Would you recommend one support ticket per character or just one support ticket for them all?

All I did before the server merge was server transfers (on September 16). There were no gender or name changes.

I recommend you one ticket for all your affected characters.

Once you get someone from support to attend your ticket he can get access to all your characters.
Syzender wrote: »
we have 20k+ people leaving the game because they just cant play with 200/300 ping, and EME seems don't care about that. so sad.

What are you talking about, people have claimed that TERA has barely 1k people playing so were are now they claiming these 20k players leaving?
Can you imagine TERA without Proxy Devs?

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llllll wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
iMirageX wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
iMirageX wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Netty wrote: »
I find this funny that some people automatically assume that we are all cheaters....Not all of cheat nor hack. Maybe they don't like things is being done. Lets ask the real question. Why didn't they do this 5 years ago when they known about proxy and the dps meter? Now of all times they decide to DMCA the "hackers." Something don't add up. If anyone know the answer to my question please tell me....because i don't....

They didnt before because the CM from that time was probably making profits from hacks also. He was always defending players using cheats and breaking the ToS every day.

Your proof? Oh " probably ". Maybe you should start reading what you post. Before making claims of " Cheating " And " PROBABLY making profits from hack ". This is a prime example of, well for me, a crap post.

Not diferent from the claims of cheaters using alts in the forums to flood the same [filtered] threads.

So where again is your proof? Oh i get it, So probably your so salty because people with higher ping than you can play better just because they are given an even playing field. I dont really get whats your point in all your post. You blatantly spout nonsense and dont even give a single proof of what you claim. Do you even know how SP works? I bet you dont because your simply an ignorant bottom tier player who is so salty when everyone is playing well above you and you cant keep up. Was i right? ^^

Proxy and SP works as a packet sniffers and injectors, illegal tools in every single game.

I am really happy EME got rid from cheaters like you and those you have been supporting to ruin this game.

Understand this once and for all, you don't own the game and if you dont like the rules you can get out from the same door you got inside, it is already too big for you and all your cheater friends.

I like how hipocrital these people are when they are buffhurt for not being able to use their hacks anymore.

What you don't understand is cheaters will keep cheating anyway. People with private cheats, the game-breaking or economy-changing ones, are savvy enough to maintain their own proxy program and keep breaking the game at will. Keep in mind EME did NOT block the cheats in any way, all they did was DMCA public repositories which were mostly innocent ping compensation/QoL stuff. Half of the people being punished are the regular players trying to play this game without all the awful limitations that STILL haven't been fixed after 6 and a half years of release. The other half are clean players who will suddenly see a very significant portion of their friends quit.

If you didnt like the game as it was since the start you had the option to uninstall and leave to play other games, no one is forcing you to stay, you are the ones trying to force an illegal software that it is against the ToS and claim that it should be allowedd, guess what? it is not and is their game and their rules, get over that already.
Words from your beloved GF comunity manager (Nyoka) about 3rd party software:
It has come to our attention that the in game usage of exploits and cheats that allow for an unfair gameplay advantage in both PvP and PvE contents has been increasing.
While in the past we’ve tolerated partial usage of non-malicious tools in Europe, we are convinced that blocking malicious usages must be a priority to protect the integrity of the game and believe this is in the best interest of the TERA community.

So I hope you get fun leveling your characters, spending money if you ever did that in the game and later get banned because GF stance about this is no diferent than EME and sooner or later they will enforce similar actions.
iMirageX wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
iMirageX wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Netty wrote: »
I find this funny that some people automatically assume that we are all cheaters....Not all of cheat nor hack. Maybe they don't like things is being done. Lets ask the real question. Why didn't they do this 5 years ago when they known about proxy and the dps meter? Now of all times they decide to DMCA the "hackers." Something don't add up. If anyone know the answer to my question please tell me....because i don't....

They didnt before because the CM from that time was probably making profits from hacks also. He was always defending players using cheats and breaking the ToS every day.

Your proof? Oh " probably ". Maybe you should start reading what you post. Before making claims of " Cheating " And " PROBABLY making profits from hack ". This is a prime example of, well for me, a crap post.

Not diferent from the claims of cheaters using alts in the forums to flood the same [filtered] threads.

So where again is your proof? Oh i get it, So probably your so salty because people with higher ping than you can play better just because they are given an even playing field. I dont really get whats your point in all your post. You blatantly spout nonsense and dont even give a single proof of what you claim. Do you even know how SP works? I bet you dont because your simply an ignorant bottom tier player who is so salty when everyone is playing well above you and you cant keep up. Was i right? ^^

Proxy and SP works as a packet sniffers and injectors, illegal tools in every single game.

I am really happy EME got rid from cheaters like you and those you have been supporting to ruin this game.

Understand this once and for all, you don't own the game and if you dont like the rules you can get out from the same door you got inside, it is already too big for you and all your cheater friends.

I like how hipocrital these people are when they are buffhurt for not being able to use their hacks anymore.
iMirageX wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Netty wrote: »
I find this funny that some people automatically assume that we are all cheaters....Not all of cheat nor hack. Maybe they don't like things is being done. Lets ask the real question. Why didn't they do this 5 years ago when they known about proxy and the dps meter? Now of all times they decide to DMCA the "hackers." Something don't add up. If anyone know the answer to my question please tell me....because i don't....

They didnt before because the CM from that time was probably making profits from hacks also. He was always defending players using cheats and breaking the ToS every day.

Your proof? Oh " probably ". Maybe you should start reading what you post. Before making claims of " Cheating " And " PROBABLY making profits from hack ". This is a prime example of, well for me, a crap post.

Not diferent from the claims of cheaters using alts in the forums to flood the same [filtered] threads.
Netty wrote: »
I find this funny that some people automatically assume that we are all cheaters....Not all of cheat nor hack. Maybe they don't like things is being done. Lets ask the real question. Why didn't they do this 5 years ago when they known about proxy and the dps meter? Now of all times they decide to DMCA the "hackers." Something don't add up. If anyone know the answer to my question please tell me....because i don't....

They didnt before because the CM from that time was probably making profits from hacks also. He was always defending players using cheats and breaking the ToS every day.
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Equitas wrote: »
You're right, that's exactly what this is for me. I'd like to believe you're "shutting the door" on me, but I know you'll continue to shitpost. I guess all I can do at this point is help you. Here are some other threads I've been in, so you won't have as much trouble finding them:

https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/29134/since-proxy-and-dpsmeter-is-no-more-can-we-get-rid-of-xigncode3
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/29160/this-has-been-against-the-rules-since-day-1-why-are-you-crying-so-much
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/29130/why-are-so-many-players-mad-just-got-home-d
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/29136/are-we-not-allowed-to-speak

Who are you to categorize people's posts as shitposts? People are genuinely concerned about the future of the game. Also what point are you trying to prove by going around fishing for forum registration dates?

The only ones concerned about this are cheaters using alt accounts in forums trying to force their way once again in NA servers.
ElinLove wrote: »
I'm like, not even against the use of non-cheat tools that fix mEME's routing and provide a less bad ping. I'm not against UI mods that fix FPS dips.
But, this stupid idea that "90% uses it you'll be playing alone when this gets banned" just has to stop. It's outright stupid.

At least, keep a little bit more of an idea on how big is the demographic of those tools and stuff that you claim being the saving grace of the game that "you cannot even start the game without" and BS alike.
*With this, I mean no one in specific, but EVERYONE that spews that stupid exaggeration. No, you're not a vast majority, stop that.

They are just spitting nonsense.

First they claim that NA TERA has 1k active players and suddenly they claim active Proxy players in NA are about 10k.

Just let them make up numbers that they don't even know.
Dvsv wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
I see a good amount of people playing the game. I am sure we wont miss a dozen of cheaters from the game.

Good job EME.
How old are you?
I always thought you as another [filtered] toxic and VERY young player that got all the time in the world to white knight EME and doesn't give a #$%@ how different people from different country play this game.
Just get a life, you spend too much time on this dead game and trust me, you gonna regret later ;)

I am not the one crying on forums.
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I see a good amount of people playing the game. I am sure we wont miss a dozen of cheaters from the game.

Good job EME.
Equitas wrote: »
You literally said you uninstalled this game from your system, and found something else to play. Not that you really even played this game back when you did have it installed. You actually thought the Candy Cannon event was endgame group content. You have zero reason to be here anymore.

"tHaT tHe BeSt YoU gOt?" Lol... [filtered] idiot.

You are losing your time with him, He is being paid to be here on forums talking shet about everything. He doesnt care even if he doenst make sense, he got his pay check to feed his mouth for doing nothing but warm a chair.
Aryd wrote: »
Equitas wrote: »
A chargeback, in this situation, would be neither legal nor legitimate. People have received the goods and services they have paid for. They don't get to take that money back just because they don't like EME attempting to take down cheat tools and the infrastructure that supports them.

Actually, it is very much legal, in all states and provinces in North America. Similarly, Amazon, E-Bay and other various institutions have had many chargebacks all of which a buyer received goods and/or services. However, it has been ruled in court that if someone is dissatisfied with said goods and/or services, that they may seek reimbursement, even in the form of chargebacks. Now, to directly apply to gaming companies, such as EME, those goods and services are not actually provided to you as a buyer. In their own ToS and EULA, they state, in no uncertain terms, that you do not own anything on your account and it can be taken from you at any time for any reason. Meaning what you are paying for is access to content, which is considered a service, and like I said before, if you are dissatisfied with a service you can legally seek reimbursement.


Though I wouldn't encourage people to do so, as stated in this thread, you only get to do it once. EME (as a blanket company) has the right then to IP ban you, meaning if they somewhere down the line, publish a game you actually want to play, you will still remain IP banned and be unable to do so.

It is sad Bern is not refunding people for what they bought from him :D

But those who used PayPal can get back a little.

If I would be those people who bought scrips from him I would be asking PayPal to get their money back and let Bern handle the issue with PayPal.
Xerses wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »
Yordan wrote: »
Eme decided that anyone with 150+ ping quitting is not a big deal, good business decision.

if tera closes down, will they get another game from bhs to run, or will they just have the ones they made?

I find it highly unlikely EME will ever get another game from BHS after this. Five years down the road, the employees at eme gonna be like "Hey, remember that time we were actually a big company and we published Tera Online until we shafted all of our customers? Good times."

BHS is EME owner.

Your point? Kakao is publishing A:IR, Bluehole develops/publishes pubg. EME will not get another game from BHS

Kakao paid BHS to develop A:IR so BHS has no said in who will publish the game, BHS develops PUBG and has partnership with MS with that game and has EME staff to attend support from that game.

Your point?
ThePieBoy wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Xerses wrote: »
Yordan wrote: »
Eme decided that anyone with 150+ ping quitting is not a big deal, good business decision.

if tera closes down, will they get another game from bhs to run, or will they just have the ones they made?

I find it highly unlikely EME will ever get another game from BHS after this. Five years down the road, the employees at eme gonna be like "Hey, remember that time we were actually a big company and we published Tera Online until we shafted all of our customers? Good times."

BHS its EME owsner.

Guess who is going to be let go due to company downsizing.

If BHS let go off EME that's the best could happen to EME.
Xerses wrote: »
Yordan wrote: »
Eme decided that anyone with 150+ ping quitting is not a big deal, good business decision.

if tera closes down, will they get another game from bhs to run, or will they just have the ones they made?

I find it highly unlikely EME will ever get another game from BHS after this. Five years down the road, the employees at eme gonna be like "Hey, remember that time we were actually a big company and we published Tera Online until we shafted all of our customers? Good times."

BHS is EME owner.
As the one above said, Guardian Legion is your casual way to make gold and 3 star dungeons.
Christin wrote: »
Equitas wrote: »
Christin wrote: »
If all channels are full, go run some dungeons. Adding more channels to appease the BAM spammers is silly, because it will just encourage more BAM spammers. You wanted the merge so dungeons would pop, so go run some.

What they should do is remove lower tier BAMS from vanguards once your ilvl allows you to kill the next level. Only 3 Vanguards for IOD should be allowed per person. Stop rewarding higher ilvls for killing low tier BAMS. Easy solution.

Why are you trying to provide insight and suggestions on a game you don't play?

Why do you care so much? Worry about yourself.

:3
Maulclaw wrote: »
Ellexem wrote: »
The max will go up to 21 when we get the Elin Brawler.

So pretty much the same as it has been for years now. New class or race+class combo, the max goes up by one.

Only twenty-one? Other class' releases always allowed at least three more slots if I recall correctly.

What you are recalling are merges, not character releases.
voidy wrote: »
Did I miss something recently? I don't really watch the streams but people seem really frustrated today all of a sudden.

KitTeaCup lacks of knowledge about the game and she is pretty much what we call a very casual player (a noob if you want to refer her like that), that makes her to trow many things that dont make sense and the same toxic group we ever have keeps their rant for every single mistake as if it was the end of the world.

Helping her to understand the basics of the game and later to get insight of the end-game from players perspective "playing" the game with her is the best offer someone has made and we hope she understand not all players in TERA are a bunch of whiny kids that always trows tantrums because they didnt got their candy.
@KitTeaCup You should not be shy on this and accept the offer. It is the best step you can take to improve yourself as a player and to know more about what issues plagues new players and veterans alike, not from whines and negative criticism but throught actual game experience.
Koikoi wrote: »
I think EME should have a community poll like they did with the naming of servers.

The game and the players have greatly changed in 2 years. I do NOT believe that time frame still works best for the "majority" of players.

I concur with you, if CU schedule can be readjusted then it would be best to make a community poll.
LancerJiva wrote: »
Mousington wrote: »
I honestly don't remember CU ever being in the afternoon PDT or EDT wise. It was always around if not after dinner hour EDT.

It has INDEED always been in the evening. Around the 7pm-9pm time frame.

I don't remember either being at noon, first CU were like 3 pm PST then it got moved to 5 PST or something like that.
Khernz wrote: »
Yes. Let's start catering to the EU audience as EME sure loves to copy paste over from EU builds. In fact, why not just call it EU tera minus event dungeons.

It is not only EU players but some players from NA and Latin America itself.

It would be good if EME held a poll about what hour could be better for CU to start and this time a poll spread over their Twitter and Discord. We have seen forums have served their purpose long ago and things posted here won't reach more players than those other channels.

EME could take the right step for once and stop to cater to a minority of cry babies and include the mayority of the posible active player base if they stop focusing the polls on forums.
Equitas wrote: »
Usagi, have you seen the official TERA Discord server? Have you been on Twitter? You keep praising their userbase as caring more about this game, but there's just as much nonsense there as on the forum. Even more so. People are able to spew out more garbage at a faster pace, and the names are often changed to something edgy since it's easier to do that there. Neither of these platforms are better. They're just more easily accessible.

No, I don't praise them as caring more about the game, I say there are more TERA active players over there than on forums and here only a minority group always keep self proclaiming to speak for the mayority when they have never voiced the mayority of the player base.

What I mean with this is that making a poll where most of the player base is active is the best way to aproach them and forums have long ago stoped to serve that purpose.
Kirasaka wrote: »
I actually know more people that are able to attend cu now that the time has changed. Don't know anyone ingame who is actually mad at this.

The only reason people in-game is mad about this is because there was no notice in advance about CU getting earlier than we have used to get it. You are right about people not complaining about the hour it triggered.

However it would be good to make a poll about what could be the best hour for CU to start, not here on forums because we can see here only comes a minority that dont speak for the comunity but only for their own selfish interests. Make the pool on Discord or Twitter where most of the people playing TERA are active and will follow what they announce there.

We can see as an example the server names poll, forums didnt get even half the votes Twitter polls got.
Xerses wrote: »
Mentioned on Discord that they don't think it can be fixed without maintenance, so they expect it to be fixed next weekend.

Nice! Discord is such a great platform to update their community when things like this happens. Everyone uses official Tera discord and no one memes there. It's such a safe space too for those who are a little more sensitive. Like that time KitTeaCup was deleting everyone for critiquing how they handled the merge. No one needs forums anymore amirite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

New name on server votes: Forums less than 1k (between both polls), Twitter more than 2k. I would already stoped using forums at all if I were them also because forums users they stoped to be the comunity voice for some years. Just a small group of people that wants to enforce their way at all costs.
Let's see what happens next week. Most guild mates were not on-line and I am pretty sure Velika server CU will be more competitive next Saturday.

Maybe you guys wont get to be on top 5 again :p
@StarSprite dont the post from these people derail the topic of the thread?
@KitTeaCup @SingleBear with the sheer amount of them needed for just a single attempt, just add them to the vanguard reward based on the ratio dungeons drop the other mats. For example we only need 4 veils for a weapon enchant but we need 200 golden plates for that part of the weapon enchanting process. Have the weekly give a % based off of that. If AAHM gives 2 veils and me and my party take turns on veils, it would take about 20 runs for each member of the party to have one enchant try. 200 plates / 20 clears = 10 plates per vanguard.
10 plates is hardly broken, more could be gotten from other content, and the biggest part of the basic material grind is gained passively. Happy players = people who play your game.

This is something that have been mentioned several times in the past. Talents are like alkahest in the past and we had a reliable source to get them, not so many but we build our amount of enchanting materials needed to get that +15.

In the current system we not only suffer from the lack of these at higher dungeon tiers but you need also a crazy amount of time to craft them into plates.

A small amount of talents would be welcome on higher tier dungeons but a singnificant decrease over crafting time would be apreciated also.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Kirasaka wrote: »
Zoknahal wrote: »
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/oktoberfest-will-happen-when-pigs-fly

No new stuff in the shop. Did EME forgot? or did they accidentally used the Windows icon instead of the Console?

Its probably console. Those mounts are not new but are called new in the news post. Its also posted by Halrath and he only does tera console stuff.
Also there was this yesterday: http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/oktoberfest-on-console

They messed up again. Its not for pc

It is for PC and consoles, just that they messed on PC when they said those are new mounts when they are not.

This is for console http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/oktoberfest-on-console

This is for pc http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/oktoberfest-will-happen-when-pigs-fly

I think it's not for PC at all -- those mounts aren't even in the PC Store right now. I think it's just a misclassification of the news post, and both of these news posts are for console.

Rip pig mounts for pc :(
Kirasaka wrote: »
Zoknahal wrote: »
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/oktoberfest-will-happen-when-pigs-fly

No new stuff in the shop. Did EME forgot? or did they accidentally used the Windows icon instead of the Console?

Its probably console. Those mounts are not new but are called new in the news post. Its also posted by Halrath and he only does tera console stuff.
Also there was this yesterday: http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/oktoberfest-on-console

They messed up again. Its not for pc

It is for PC and consoles, just that they messed on PC when they said those are new mounts when they are not.

This is for console http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/oktoberfest-on-console

This is for pc http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/oktoberfest-will-happen-when-pigs-fly
5JMKCJCPK9 wrote: »
Hey guys,where i can farm or buy the glyph "Powerlinked Eviscerate" i can't find it at all.

Island of Dawn Vanguard Request gives you Dawnfall and Dawnstorm tokens as rewards on your dailies, you can get your master glyphs from there.

If the glyph you are looking is not a master glyph then you can use your vanguard credits to buy Slayer Glyp tokens and get it from them.

Sorry if I can't be helpful, I havent read about Slayer glyphs so I don't know exactly the source from that specific glyph.
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Before adressing a ticket support, Awakened characters should have 60 glyphs points or 65?

60
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