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ElinLove wrote: »
I suspect those daily deals have made the EMP dealers more lively around the game, have they? Well it's a win-win situation for everyone, unless rates skyrocket stupidly.

like they haven't already? 70 usd?? I could see that price if they were account bound.

I mean EMP-gold ratio, and well I've been away from the game (and almost entirely from forums as well) for a few months already
I suspect those daily deals have made the EMP dealers more lively around the game, have they? Well it's a win-win situation for everyone, unless rates skyrocket stupidly.
As far as I know, it changes nothing other than your shown name and that's it.

Everything on the game itself should at least, be tied to your character internal ID, just for info: I do know by experience that you keep friends list intact, gear changes crafter's name to the matching one, and if I recall you stay on same guild. Shouldn't change anything guild related as such.
kamizuma wrote: »
Equitas wrote: »
I personally feel like they should do an unannounced name wipe for characters that haven't logged on in a year or more. I think that's a fair cutoff point to assume people are no longer interested in their character, or this game. I also suggest an unannounced reset of the names of characters who have 15 minutes or more of play time, and have yet to get past level 5. Given that you could easily reach level 5 in half that time, I'd say it's fair. I say these should be unannounced because telling people in advance does nothing. If people do log in again, they will only do so just to sit on the name. They won't play again. I also believe EME should put an end to name selling.

what if I don't want to level my lvl 1s?????????

Stop being lazy and get your inventory chars up to Lv 5!

I frankly don't really care about anything you would be doing with them but judging from how you play the game mostly, I would assume those Lv1s are just banks and not name hoarding crap. If they are, please don't be a d**** but what can I do anyway... Being storage characters I would assume they have random names no one would care about
Catservant wrote: »
I understand the temptation. I wanted a Sindarin name for my high elf, found a perfect word--matched her appearance and sounded cool besides that--but it was taken. And now I have to live with one letter different. Which irks because the person who claimed it has not moved from level 40 in 3 years.

I would pay them gold gladly--but there is no means of contact. So I understand the temptation.

However, I would not support a name wipe. Because I have also been the person who snagged a great name and left it on a level one character until I was ready to use it. And if that person who owns the name I want ever returns to the game, I don't want the first thing they discover to be that they no longer have their name.

But that's my take.

If that name was Daughter.Of.Elleon on AV I would gladly give it to you as I now literally have 3 gunners and this one is the one I've left behind
ElinLove wrote: »
well we got our monthly server merge thread. go back and read last months threads and the ones from last year where eme staff gave a statement about server merges.

Don't you mean weekly? Along with name wipes and "P2W"


Oh boi was I right on the money...

Yeah man we all get your feels, every now and then I want sum' waifu name for my next cute Elin and I'll have to deal with some random crap added to it for it to pass by the useless name seller's Lv1 character which is already left the game last year and all.

Point is:
1: This has been debated over and over AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN insert guitar solo from Queen's song. The fact is that if you call out that you will do a mass name wipe, the exact same thing as the last ones will hapen over and... yeah you get it: name sellers will grab your so wanted name unless you log right after the wipe and pick it up. I did it, yeah mah Kudryavka.Noumi is a cute lancer there. Good luck tho depending on how popular the name is, and as stated above, the players that would actually benefit from it have some few hours of glory to be happy and then it's back to the name sellers.
2: Yes an automated thing to do this would be optimal, this way name sellers wouldn't be able to know when they'll get their popular name to sell. Basically copying what I say on every single instance this pops: some system that notifies the player once half a year before wipe, then 3 months, then 1 month and so on via e-mail and then after 1 year of no log-in on the account, wipe the names. PROBLEMS: yeah yeah every now and then someone logs after like 2 years of not playing and will try to wreak havoc on forums and support. Frankly, no big deal if you ask me, they'll do this regardless for even their items being unusable. Heck I can imagine someone coming to complain that their original Visionmaker set is useless and they deserve compensations. There will always be an extreme case to complain, and on the case of names they may not even lose the name: the auto-wipe can possibly just restore (or not clear the name until it gets used) the name for the account that logs if no one used it.
Now for the ACTUAL problem of an auto-wipe system: It requires effort in programming it. How much? Meh maybe not much but effort is still effort which means it ain't happening if no exorbitant investment to return ratios are expected.

So basically... In the end it doesn't even matter... OK I'll stop if it doesn't give money = no go.
Hey guys, can you recommend me some cool combat game with Elin-like characters? I would be very interested right now... Dress up simulator is a nice extremely important addition
well we got our monthly server merge thread. go back and read last months threads and the ones from last year where eme staff gave a statement about server merges.

Don't you mean weekly? Along with name wipes and "P2W"
its like when eric cartman bought the amusement park and wouldn't allow anyone in. no one wanted to come to it before, only when cartman didn't want anyone coming in was when everyone wanted to come in. I feel eme is using the same marketing ploy. nobody hardly bought stuff in the store, and now that its all been removed and you will only get a temporary taste of things is when people are now wanting to buy stuff. I feel it could work both ways and eme can make bank, or it could come back and bite them in their butts. only time will tell.

You remind me of the little psychological attack (or whatever you may call it) my mom did yesterday on the supermarket cashier line:
Just when we were coming to the lheavily lined up cashiers, there was a few more free further down the hallway, but right at the entrance there was this really lengthy line cashier. My mom just said "I need to get into this line before anyone gets before me". The woman at her front jumped into the long line just because she heard that. Just to not "lose" to my mom she did it. And went into the stupid long line while we just went past like "lol it worked"

And now, players are doing like that lady in the supermarket
Don't see a problem with, was just wondering how we never got a casino and strip club. Instead of afking and grinding endlessly, I'd like to just "relax" and play some virtual slot machines or zipping virtual alcohol while watching female Elves and female Castanic grinding on stage.

Go to Castanica, and start to open some lootboxes with some Summer Wine, TERA has you covered!!

It even feels a lot more real Casino like when you lose all your real life money on the boxes, the experience is complete! Not to mention you don't even need to go to Castanica to have girls dancing with enough skin shown
This reminds me: did they already release the cats as flying mounts as well? If not, then I can bet them releasing them instead of re-releasing the normal ground mounts later on.

Nice to see these as pets, wonder about dogs. I would love a Chebika giant dog mount
Little not helpful bit of thinking here:

I would say it's just a translation thing, since like everything on Berserker revolves around them being furious and batshit crazy all the time. The whole concept of a Berserker is being crazy, mad and enraged, so I would say it comes more from the character being enraged than monster (hue).

Wasn't it Unbreakable that the zerk (at least on Elin) lifts the axe up and screams like going bananas? I think the skill name is more towards this
aliferous wrote: »
The reason I play solo is that I never, ever played in a party. I am afraid to make people angry for not knowing what to do and how to benefit a party and not the opposite. I always played solo because I can just take my time, learn the boss, make mistakes and not be judged. Sure, soloing dungeons is a slow progress but I don’t get super bored of it. Even though I went trough Bastion of Lok a sh.it load of times trying out every class’ potential, I still don’t get super bored of it because it’s a challenge everytime.

You basically do it alone cause you didn't start to do it together then? Well at leveling phase, do not worry about literally ANYTHING. I mean every single leveling dungeon consists of just hitting the monsters in whatever fashion you want. You'll actually need to know what to do at Lv 65. Take this time you're leveling to learn how to face the boss' back instead of front or sides, that's what you'll need the most. Yeah that and not getting hit. At leveling dungeons there are no 1 shots, but you can learn to time the hits, and like I said before, learn to keep at the back. THIS will be challenging at 1st because the tank will likely not know what he/she's doing, if there even is one (or if there are more than one). Tanks at front, DPS at back, heals at somewhere safe keeping buffs and debuffs up and everyone healed.

At 65, you should have an idea of the I-frame or the dodge/block timings, which you can get at lower levels. The mechanics then start to change, with harder hits and one shots that kill you. BUT: this is where if you're eager to learn, you can just ask the mechanics and what to know about, and you'll get answers to it from non idiotic elitists, then you learn it on practice. Also the guide route is also true and helpful, specially for the highest end dungeons where you'll not be able to solo at all some group mechanics (are there any this patch?), and there's a huge difference in perspectives from being the one with the aggro to being a DPS at back. Some of them may be too complex to just tell, so a video run through is helpful too.

Don't be afraid of starting to run stuff in groups just because you may suck. The ones around you that say they're pros will LIKELY suck. Possibly more than you as a 1st timer. Not kidding, big egos are sometimes the worst players. Even when leveling some players will be terrible and just shift blame to anyone. They're in every game and can be just ignored. Obviously, do NOT become the one that ignores people trying to teach you stuff, ignore the ones that are not productive, keep in mind some people may be less polite when telling useful information, specially DURING battle (everyone is heated up on the combat).
Lapomko wrote: »
If you want to know if you are the lagger you should open CMD and tracert to diag.enmasse.com. If theres a huge latency difference in the beginning which is 1-3 for me then the issue is somewhere within the local network. If theres one near the end/middle then lag is caused by one of the internet exchange points. In my case I could pinpoint the lag was caused by a transit point from zayo which I was told to use vpn from support with proof shown.

If the problem is from your side then you need some techsavy to take a look at your network. It could be caused by many things such as bad cheap modem/router. Double/tripple firewall from modem+router+software, electrical interference on network cable which I had in the past that caused my network to dc every 10 minutes. Can be quite expensive task to fix them.

Adding to that, yes I've had pretty bad experiences with double/triple firewall on routers. I don't understand why they even have them turned on to be fair since it's so bad it's barely better than nothing, if not worse.

Disabling every single firewall on a router can help a lot, my issues with this were not the sudden increase of ping during certain times of the day, but rather fully disconnect out of the blue, to the point I couldn't play anything in TERA. Barely running on open world was possible.

This is thankfully possible with most operator modems as well, even if they'll not tell you how to do it or do it for you. You'll just have to find the device's manual online to see which is the configuration page IP (usually 192.168.0.1) and what combination of user and password you need, which may be written at the bottom of the machine as well on some sticker.
I leave the connection security always up to the devices. Mobile devices nowadays have enough of it and so does a PC, the router there is just screwing things up most of the time.
TheKings wrote: »
continue from up message ...

and I did a hardworking to pay for my good ping like everyone else can do as well, right! Do not expect good stuff for a low price like an old PC running Tera in 4K. There is a specific equipment for everything, you do not need to buy the best one but check that one can supply your necessity, as I did. For example, my internet now is 100MB, I could go for 500MB? Yes, but just to improve almost nothing my ping for 3 times more in the bill? No thanks. Balance what you can, put in a paper, search, get more info and you will see that there are solutions for a bit more.
We cannot make a Ferrari a rally car. Internet is a combination of many components where if one is not ok everything else will not work properly.

Let’s be realist.

If you do not want to spend money initially, try to talk with the provider, make some tests, change the route with your provider, ask them for another better modem, maybe they have something specify for games with their equipment/technology. Try read some tutorials in the internet about modems, links, ping, ethernet, how to improve your ping/link, try to check how people succeed it to have a good ping.

Please note: I was not able to post everything together that's why I create a new post.

I get you better now. It was honestly pretty badly worded and resumable in just "fork out, you're screwed", and while I do know as well that there is much that could be improved on some cases by literally upgrading the possible parts, that's not the case on that specific situation, hence I called it counter productive on a... possibly too pissed way, and by the uncalled trigger I apologize, it's just that there's been too much of this case so I just lumped it together.

Now to keep the productive parts of that: all the stuff I tried have shown same or worse results. Upgrading ISP modem is something only the ISPs can do here other than the few remaining ADSL links, since it's tied to specific authorization codes to avoid tapping the line for piracy of the connection, and sadly whenever they change the modem it's always the exact same ping. The physical distance does make the 180ms a normal and expected condition tho, the upload speeds didn't seem to neither increase or decrease the ping (when I started TERA I had a 10Mb/s down, 1Mb/s up link), only the change to a mobile connection changed it very slightly (which is to be expected considering it's gonna be a different routing to the mobile operator and then forward). Wifi vs cable has been tested as well, heck on some slower torrent upload moments I can leave it on and it doesn't affect it.

The OP's issue is very clearly some routing issue that happens on specific times, jumping ping considerably. That's probably sadly out of anyone's control other than VPN to change the routing (which I do not bet alllll that much in decreasing it, rather an increase but constant ping without that fluctuation). Heck En Masse barely can fix the issue for NA player let alone South America ones...
Walkerlang wrote: »
So, after a big pain of updating (kept hanging up on the patch, and then other issues....fixed when I installed to C directory), I finally logged back into my account.

My maxxed characters are at 60 (Priest, Reaper, and Sorc).... I"m guessing the cap moved up to 65? My UI and skillbars are crazy out of whack....not to mention my inventory and bank.

Btw...Is there a 100k gold cap for non-elite?

Anyway, its good to actually play the game again. I have a low level gunner I may play around with to get the feel of the game back.

Thanks

Yes, new cap is 65, and it's quick to reach. Then you'll start your gearing up starting with Guardian gear, which is pretty easy to do. As been said above, the game has pretty much always been new player friendly, and to a big extent even the community as well (there are ALWAYS the idiotic elitists that think you should know all since start and have all gear ready cause hurr durr X months after new gear patch but those are easy to avoid). The gear revamps every now and then could be considered a big reason to this, the ones that play for long can get their top end gear quicker but it doesn't make everyone just have it and require it when you drop into the game.

No known gold cap, if I recall there's some upper limit on inventory gold of some millions but never reached it (max I had was like 450K in total), but bank's limit is on the high millions, if I recall not even Kamizuma has reached it with his ~80M or such.

And yeah the inventory and, bank and skill bars got messed up on some major updates (heck some small ones did it too) so you'll have to re-organize them after so many changes and non usable items that should get either sold or discarded. Check your item descriptions, campfires, charms and some HP potions can be sold to merchants for some gold, along with some other items. There's also a load of TP scrolls that don't work anymore since the dungeons got removed or the TP changed maybe.
TheKings wrote: »
Hello all Brazilian players and everyone else,

The internet speed of 4MB will impact unfortunately in your ping.
The topic "lag" is very complicate to solve it and I fought with your enemy lag for 1 year.

Here 3 steps I did that solve my lag issue.

1. Internet at least 100MB (fibre if is possible);
2. Very good modem (I got one 5G and 2GB transfer through cable). Modems from the internet companies mostly are limited and it's not enough in almost all cases if you are using it for "games".
3. Make sure you have a Ethernet connection of 1GB, most of the laptop or motherboard bring a trash one, sometimes still with Ethernet 100, so you limited with 100 MB internet by the cable. You can buy a USB converter. Avoid wifi if it's not 5G.

There is no "miracle", really. You can configure your regedit, Windows stuff, software to reduce the ping (this is the worse) and none will solve the case and does not change anything, fly with a dragon at midnight, kill a vampire with garlic, whatever. Nothing can change the distance you are from the server + bad internet!

If you do not put your hands on the pocket no way to solve "ping issue".

I would say more, Enmasse is very nice to analyse so many cases with Ping issue but for those 3 steps is the only solution.

*Tested just now: stable ping ~180ms. Sure it's 2h after the normal problematic time for you OP but it's how it's going on here.
More data:
Running BitTorrent just for the lulz to screw it as much as possible for the test (and lazyness of disabling it)
Connection: 35Mb/s down, 4Mb/s up
Location: Brazil, South (Rio Grande do Sul, Porto Alegre)
In-game: Velika, Freedom Plaza, server: Ascension Valley, decently populated here and now for some reason.
sorry for the total laziness but not gonna post the trace thingy here, just providing some metrics on another player's situation. IT COULD BE MY SERVER TOO, just to keep that in mind.

Now:

Hello TheKings.

I'm ...very thankful for your... help.
I may tho add to it with my own testing of the story through my years of TERA:

1: the upload speed didn't change anything on my ping from ~300kb/s uploads all the way to the current 4Mb/s upload. A tenfold increase on the upload speed did NOT change the ping, always same 180ms. The only moment I managed to go higher at around 250 was on a daily access mobile data link, which takes a different link path from the PC to the servers. That much of an increase, over a terribly slow connection, managed to game for 10 minutes on 10 MB of total data transfer.

2: The issue is NOT about general high ping. We have gotten used to the normal 180ms because, well, that's light speed kicking in yo. You can't defy that nor there's a direct straight link from our PCs to TERA servers, which would STILL have higher ping regardless of the speed, you could have 10TB/s link straight from Brazil to En Masse server, your ping WILL be higher than someone in Chicago or where was it the server is located. Again, light speed kicked in yo.

The issue at hand is the INCREASE of ping during certain moments, and, check above, Voidy who's not Brazilian has that issue too. It was an issue with the Zayo/Savys routing for even US players for long if not still present.

3: the issue is NOT connection between PC and ISP modem. I game on Wifi (stone me to death if you may), and have done on cable too. My signal strength is strong enough for the link to be at about 65Mb/s from PC to router (could be 150Mb but automatic power savings doing their magic), aka twice the connection speed (it's 35Mb/s down, 4Mb/s up). It was exactly precisely perfectly the same results between cable and wifi to that router. People tend to underrate wifi way too badly and overestimate massively the latency of the link. It's down the microsecond class. Your enemy on WLAN is interference and low signal. None of which are problems I have.
Again, exact precisely same pings, fluctuation, jitter and time wise.

4: Every single thing you mentioned is either unfeasible for a mere F2P game or has been done. 100Mb/s connection just for this game? No thanks I have more to do with my money and my downloads are fast enough for now.
No, you do NOT need gigabit LAN cable to not have issues, if your cabled link supports the max speed, done. Throw some ~20% overhead at max. WLAN takes higher overheads but even that can cap the contract speed easily here.
You cannot just swap out the modem on many/most operators here since it's tied to their system. Best we can do is call up them to swap the modem for a better one when it starts to crap up, which I do regularly.


I may sound triggered but it really does that when people have only one solution "stop being poor and living in 3rd world countries". That's... basically the way you tried to... help I guess. I mean jeez you just did say all we're complaining is useless and should fork out money?
The only part that wasn't downright wrong was that we can't fight the distance between us and servers, and... that is NOT our problem, but a sudden increase of it out of the blue. Some players have sudden spikes during specific periods of the day, even when they check out all your topics above. Check the whole Savys/Zayo thing.

See, this one bellow is how you actually help, even if just bluntly realistic, instead of the "get better internet/move closer to server":
Lapomko wrote: »
If you are outside NA EME will do nothing about it. I have 400mbit/s and I had routing issues within zayo. The only thing they will tell you is to use VPN. In my case it was an internode from zayo which lagged at a certain time.

Walkerlang wrote: »
You guys are really making this tempting pulling me back from brink of the consoles. I played the tutorial on ps4pro, and it was fine, but I kept thinking about all the stuff I didn't have that was just sitting there in my bank on the PC.

You know, important stuff, like swimsuits for all my characters. And speaking of characters, the 8 plus character spots from being a founder are great too.

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Black Desert is meant for that travel wise so that you actually explore the game. -_-
The way Tera is now you can reach level 65 without stepping foot into 90% of the other areas on the game. While I like Tera this is a huge problem for the game.

Better EXP? You already get handed a fast trip to level 65. What this game needs is less xp. Not in the sense that it takes you forever to level. But you can reach max level in a day or two.

Apparently you weren't here when Tera had the stamina system. Your max HP and MP decreased the less stamina you had.
To recover it you had to sit by a campfire and wait for your stamina and HP/MP go back up.

Is this a serious a topic?

Naming Stamina was even funny honestly, what has changed for the better got changed, why bring back a past topic like "hey, look how it USED TO be worse!".

Yeah I bet it IS serious, it's just opinion after all, nobody has to like the same lengthy leveling and exploring after all, which are still options, albeit gimped to an extent. The open world being underused is taken as a fact for many players who used to do the lengthy leveling, it still doesn't mean you can't set foot on it, nor that everyone should feel the same. I honestly have done it so much I'm thankful that I can just blaze my way through a few dungeons and Kumas, which I even love.

Some of the additions to the game are very basic QoL stuff that I don't know if you feel like they're positive or not but I sure do, like having all teleport points available at start. It was seriously annoying to have to go running on horse from place to place just to add key locations to the map on each alt after doing it on all previous ones. For those who don't want to just jump into the place, just... don't... jump into the place. You've just been given more options.

What I agree is that a lengthy leveling option should get revamped/reintroduced parallel to the current blazing one, as to improve both experiences. Forcing the player into either of them tho is just annoying, it's literally deciding what one should like or not.
I can test this tomorrow to see if I also have the same issue, since I'm from BRHUEHUE as well. My normal is 180~200 for reference, at an upload speed of about 4Mb/s from South (Rio Grande do Sul), just to keep some info.

By the way so I can test it more precisely if I remember: where does it happen? Open world? Dungeons (which one)?
>14 pages of changes that take effort

Totally not April's Fools, specially client redesign and net sided improvements.

The talents part takes the cake tho
~gets re-banned for spam~
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
its also censored heavily, not TERA at all...

What diference it has from PC version?

Are you refering about the chat filter?

I'm refer to todays date actually

can go check out the ruckus I caused in console forums if you want.

managed a few ignores hahaha, no one checks the date or thinks I'm actually serious with the language I was using?

hahaha, I was around with the original tera elin outfit situation, release coming for console, apirl 1st, boredom well... hahaha

pro tip: don't spam the same joke countless times since 1 day before the actual date
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
ElinLove wrote: »
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
ElinLove wrote: »
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
Announcement coming in April!

will they be censored?


like the console cash grab version of your game?

The heck is that you mean???

Also any cute costumes is always hype for me

I think the guy is pissed at the profanity filter on console but this has nothing to do with costumes lmao.

elin costumes heavily censored, chat filter says "good night" is a violation and gets censored...

no valk, gunners or male brawlers

founders items and title only one character allowed not account bound... so make a valk when they decide to release them, too bad no founder title for you... that you paid for...

did I mention outfits are censored?

I was curious if you really DID mean that halfassed censoring from early beta days on west, but really, LOOK AT MY NAME, not even I am bothered about that. Chat filter should be tweaked, that's it. THAT'S IT.

Please, let that die before the hater army gets back with their keyboard machine guns and dumb accusations. It's not even all that much, neither should have it been done in 1st place, but now that it's done, be it. It seems you do mean just the armors, cause I cannot see BHS assing themselves to burka-fy the cash shop stuff for no apparent reason now, in short you're beating a horse dead since 2011.

curious to see when you'll bite the dust, it's all you comment after all

you might be content with censorship, I sure the hell am not. I'm going to be here for a long time letting them know exactly what I think of their censoring

New outfits aren't censored just look at this Devil_E_thumb.jpg

Happy? Stahp posting now, you're seriously beating a dead horse and everyone knows about this.
Go complain in the console forums with the rest of new people.

console do not have outfits like that.

the console player are even more door mat pro censorship than freaking Disney!

Wasn't that because.. hmmm... console didn't even have the cash shop enabled yet?????
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
ElinLove wrote: »
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
Announcement coming in April!

will they be censored?


like the console cash grab version of your game?

The heck is that you mean???

Also any cute costumes is always hype for me

I think the guy is pissed at the profanity filter on console but this has nothing to do with costumes lmao.

elin costumes heavily censored, chat filter says "good night" is a violation and gets censored...

no valk, gunners or male brawlers

founders items and title only one character allowed not account bound... so make a valk when they decide to release them, too bad no founder title for you... that you paid for...

did I mention outfits are censored?

I was curious if you really DID mean that halfassed censoring from early beta days on west, but really, LOOK AT MY NAME, not even I am bothered about that. Chat filter should be tweaked, that's it. THAT'S IT.

Please, let that die before the hater army gets back with their keyboard machine guns and dumb accusations. It's not even all that much, neither should have it been done in 1st place, but now that it's done, be it. It seems you do mean just the armors, cause I cannot see BHS assing themselves to burka-fy the cash shop stuff for no apparent reason now, in short you're beating a horse dead since 2011.

curious to see when you'll bite the dust, it's all you comment after all
Lapomko wrote: »
kammishiro wrote: »
Diamond crafting cost 10 emeralds + 3k gold of materials = 13k gold, if you use a additive (12k) = 25k. Critting on a diamond provides only a total of 2 diamonds, not 3 diamonds so its not really worth o: I think people are probably saving for future stuff but idk x:
I had over 100 saved up from spamming ghilliglade and rknm when they were given out as jackpot. Easy 1 mil free money.

>free money
>saved up from spamming ghilliglade and rknm

I don't think working for it counts as free honestly
L3KAAEYFKH wrote: »
Announcement coming in April!

will they be censored?


like the console cash grab version of your game?

The heck is that you mean???

Also any cute costumes is always hype for me
Lapomko wrote: »
The dyads are bound to your chest so you can't use them on any other gear anymore. The only thing you can do with them is to fuse them with other 2 dyads to make a random new one. That's it. Etchings will just dissapear.

Adding to it with information I got from players: your dyads are bound to your character's Twistshard gear. Keep the semantics in mind on this one: it also means that whatever Twistshard gear this character owns, can use these dyads.
In other hands: you upgrade this Twistshard to Frostmetal. The Frostmetal can't use them. You make new Twistshard, this Twistshard can use them.

It's a weird option but if you don't plan to make another gear set then just fuse them to another gear. Also it's kinda wasteful to use dyads on Twistshard gear.
Some things sound nice but why would you want to play old warrior with shared edge and clunky scythe .-.

*And no block, wasn't that true as well? If you wanted to tank on Warrior, deal with the I-frame only.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's where the whole "evasive tank" thing comes from, they got the sword parry added later
The thing about people who dont want it - they wouldnt have to play it as it would be another server
So why are they so opposed to it happening ?

No not having enough people for your pug here is not a good awnser.

From a business side -
I dont think it should be at the paid subscription time period, as they may not get enough pay to play people.
I think it should be just after they switched over to free to play, before the 1st bam nerf, before the quest removals occured.

The only thing I'm actually opposed to, is allocating current servers to a legacy one. The current ones are bad enough at their task as-is, let alone adding more load to them.
It's frign' obvious that it's a question of "don't like? don't play!" Same with any costume or new dungeon (dungeons even have the argument of drops), but as said above, no, just no splitting of current servers.

What I don't understand is why that much focus on bringing it ALL to a state of pay to play instead of keeping the good we have and bringing back the good old as well. The full bringing of it to an old state is as I said, more like a rosy glasses of nostalgia move, and using arguments that more/most people liked it more as it was back then and it was all better is plain wrong, as we do know the game wasn't doing so well on it's last days of pay to play. Some things we miss, some we just waved back and watched it go away with a tear of joy on the eyes.

I'm definitely not against making this as an alternative IF they don't mess with current build for that, which includes servers. Whoever dreams can get too big too fast and too delusional at times, and the financial side of things is what will rule it all, which at least I cannot see succeeding at all, much less on a pay to play method.
I prefered the original Tera to what we have now.
No its not just nostalga, it was a more FUN game - which is the point of playing a game.

1. The leveling in the open world was much more fun that the easymode we have now.
2. The open world bams were more fun. People in the area would form parties to fight them and help each other because they had to, and I enjoyed being in those parties.
3. The quests were more fun and you wern't constantly overlevelled for the area like you are now. Yes i did like the quests ! - I know its sacrilege to say that, but they are less repetitive than endgame pugs. I even read the quests.
4. The isle of dawn starting area was more fun and pretty than stepstone isle - I HATE Stepstone Isle.
Also have you ever tried playing with a friend on Stepstone Isle. The constant phasing when you advance in the story makes it very difficult to meet up with your friends - which is really bad if you are trying to introduce a friend to Tera.
5. Equipment remodeling where you could mix and match parts of outfits was far superior to what we have now.

Sure I understand that most people remaining in Tera nowadays want to skip the leveling process entirely .But thats because -
a) The leveling process now is a shallow shell of what it was before.
b) most people who like leveling in a game have left the game in disgust, so we are left with people who prefer endgame only mmos.
c) they have done it 99 times before so they dont want to do it again.
However this is no reason to remove half the game for new people or people who do want to do it. A better way would be after you have done it a certain number of times you should be given a free level up scroll or a crazy xp boost item for your next character. Or maybe each character you raise to 65 gives a stackable xp item that can be traded between your characters.

I think the reason Bluehole wanted to level people as fast as possible was they observed max level people are more likely to buy costumes because people who are leveling want to be able to delete their characters to change class - which they cannot do if they buy costumes.- so they dont buy the costume. A better solution would have been to sell account bound costumes for more money and of course to keep on making new costumes.

To be fair we can condense everything you said into one single sentence: Leveling was many times better in old TERA, I want that part back.

There you go, one thing that we sure could get back to the game. Leave some form of power grind/farming for alt people that don't feel like doing the lengthy leveling yet again, and bring back the lengthy but fun one from before as well. Done. No stamina and lack of teleporting crap just for the sake of a single good part.

Same with the old dungeons, they can (and should) be brought back from time to time, and to be fair, I agree with the strategy of rotating them to an extent. People can get too spread out between queues or LFGs if all options are available, OR it can get stale yet again. This does happen, there's no way to deny that old dungeons also got "old" quickly as well, not as quickly as new ones is up to debate but still do get stale. The rotation of them makes it less stale in this aspect, even tho I also agree it is annoying to lose the dungeon you like for another half a year or so. Denying they got stale is just the same old rosy glasses of nostalgia, which is in big part the whole point of this thread. The stamina system for f's sake, the lack of teleporting to another areas you haven't been into with your 37th character, the disgrace of enchanting we had back then... No thanks to any of that.
Frankly, bringing back the argument of the SNES and NES classic mini is stretching this by FAR. There's a huge gigantic difference in comparing nostalgia to a game console that was the childhood of many adults now, about 30 years ago, to that of a little bit more than 5 years. Games were a VASTLY different experience back then compared to the spam of crazy fast FPS ones we have now, TERA changed some parts keeping the exact same core and graphics. Heck the new Nokia 3310 has nothing to do with the old one save for form factor, it's just a reboot loosely inspired on the old classic/meme. Vinyl collecting is also nothing like that, in a sense it has never actually died out completely, the moment it got replaced in masses by CD and later file based audio, it was still a hobby type of thing. It's an entirely different story.

In my opinion, we should be working on improving the current version we have, instead of reverting back 5+ years. We can, and I agree we SHOULD, revert some or even many things back to the way they were, if not permanently (like dungeons or mass events à la Nexus), then at least temporarily. Leveling is one thing, Nexus too, some dungeons could see the light again, Kumasylum at least some temporary comeback, CS Lv 30+ permanent back please, controller camera direction selector back please, I can't even play melee properly, one of the many reasons I play just every now and then nowadays. As you see, I also have my oldie preferences on TERA, but no I definitely don't want it back to the way it was entirely on start. Specially don't want to lose my twin braids and cute 2017 maid costumes no matter what you say about immersivity.
Laemie wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
quick question -- do you really have to slay rkem ?

No.

It is the mind set of players wanting to compete in score runs and speed runs that makes them think they need Slaying to do RKE, which is false, you can do that run without Slaying.

But what if your run takes over 10 mins long are you fine with it? :o

Oh jee, 10 minutes, that's almost 1/3 of the time to make the LFG!!
Barely related but... Why is it that I'm seeing more of those "And YOU" posts recently??
Agreed with this, and as has been stated before on same topics, we in general (just a glance from the top) don't actually want to grind out talents at all. But the imbalance has to be dealt with.

With the incoming awakening this changes as well, wonder how much it fixes or breaks the balance yet again (I know, I know there has been K-TERA reports and a nice prediction can be found on that, but my memory fails on that)
It's there to trigger you hard.
Spend your time queing and winning that demn clusterfek with people who don't know how to jump (but ya know, Lv 30s are the noobs, we all know 65s are great), so you can open it up and gaze at your beautiful Pearl, worth a whopping 50G
hmmm... Wasn't TERA LITERALLY dying back on the last days of paid subscription, before adding some cash shop stuff?

The idea sounds interesting for the nostalgia of beta days players, but financially plain horrible. I sure would love to try out the game as it was before I came to it, since I came in Reaper patch, but heck no I'm not paying one cent for that, much less paying MONTHLY for that. I don't even understand how subscription games can stay alive but that's another story.

Another thing to take into consideration: you'll need a playerbase on that new old server. You'll have to convince people to pay to play an old version of a currently free to play game. Ain't seeing it happening. Think of how many people will keep paying monthly to play a game that is an old version of a currently free game with low population. How much would that grow? How long would it take?

Don't forget it's not like you just dump an old Core i5 machine with some 32GB of ram and call it a server for a game of this scale. If you plan to allocate our current servers for this old version, then well I'm strongly against that, given the current bad shape of the servers during peak hours.


May as well try the private server route, and if I recall the ones who did it gave up after a few months cause it wasn't all that easy and cheap to maintain it for the player count they would get. If I'm not wrong again, it all started with this exact same idea. End of the day, En Masse's work isn't just sitting on a chair looking at some random server usage graphics while the hamsters spin the wheels there and call it a day.
voidy wrote: »
If he's playing the game, he probably doesn't want to see the company hosting it go bankrupt over dumb decisions.

Yea, they're totally bankrupt, which is why they just spent god knows how time and money much on a 2 year console development.

Brilliant.
Bonbonnie wrote: »
Make liberation scrolls work on costumes and it will all be gucci.

Again, that's a BHS issue. EME does not have control over that. In addition, there's probably a massive amount of work associated with going back in the code to make that change.

Reminder the console is still BHS coding stuff (outsourcing or not), and En Masse is only the division mostly involved on it on the publisher side, if not only one. BHS is still the one where the money comes from and is used at.

Keeping this in mind, we have no idea if a failure by part of the US publisher of the game would make it shift to another publisher or get completely axed. Publisher changes happened in KR cause that's basically their own market and center of the universe.


Back to the changes to race changer voucher: Counterpoint's points are entirely valid, whoever there's one thing we have to keep in mind that is volatile and not shown on current data, and only time will tell: the change factor.
People are used to one service and how it works, some people are really the cancer on it that makes it nonviable meanwhile others enjoy it with moderation and not overloading support. We can't discard the possibility that this change in costumer service can be viewed negatively in a worst proportion than predicted, leading to lower profits. The assumption of players buying new cosmetics based on how it is on other regions cannot be entirely dumped into the NA system for the above, people had this ability to swap costumes instead, and may or may not be wiling to purchase stuff again. For the ones that feel like race changing all the time back and forth, buying new sets for the preferred races and using cheaper vouchers will be worth at some point, but how many are those?

TL;DR: console has nothing to do with this, only time will tell if the decision is financially better, even if the data currently appoints towards a success.
LJ5HJXRCCL wrote: »
I like controller the way it is already on PC. I did play the beta to see how it was, and I hated the controller setup for console. If this happens I would hope it is a toggle.

Yeah I really don't think console controller setup is gonna be worth it, but the controller optimized UI (and overall multithread optimized UI) may be a great addition to the PC version.

Still in the hopes of maybe one day they bring back the camera direction attacks for non-ranged skills
voidy wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
Rathgar wrote: »
Too many tanks in Tera...hang on a sec, I have to get this out first HAHAHAHA!!

People have already hit on what needs to be said on how IM works but - in no way are there enough Tanks in Tera. I stopped doing Guardian Legion altogether because there is never a Tank of any kind to be found. I have to put way more effort into doing damage chasing Mexican jumping bean mobs all over the place. It's no longer worth the time investment. Hopefully when more male Brawlers are level 65 and il439 people can bother doing these again.

Tanks are rare for guardians because tanking against a dozen people in +7 sc with no healer to give you mana or heal you so you can play aggressively is a [filtered] experience. I have a tank and I could do guardians but I don't because of that, and because usually a second tank will come along and compete with me for aggro. It sucks, but it's just easier to do it on my healers. Blame the game for that.

Or better yet, there are several tanks, each in a different position, and they're all competing for aggro and the boss starts spinning as such.

That's always fun.

But remember, there's a tank shortage ;^)

Tho if I remember, people love doing it on tank cause blocks, self heal and being able to still do DPS to clear the Guardian Missions faster than a random DPS class that just HAS to chase the back
For the billionth time, EME cannot add, remove, or change content. All they can do is pass on feedback, and then you wait to see if KTERA player base has been saying the same thing so BHS might listen, because they rarely do anything with our feedback.

A real suggestion to actually help you, is to perhaps make a discord group for achievement hunters or make a Saturday/Sunday group of 20-30 people that will spam it at 65 for a few hours. I'm sure you can find people if you advertise it here or on reddit Tera. I guarantee you can find 20-30 people across all 5 servers at least.

Maybe expanding the recruitment could work yeah, but a thread here was tried before and... ya didn't pop. It's quite sad that you in practice can't do it after hitting 65 anymore, for the most idiotic of reasons.
Ves1978 wrote: »
can we remove them from game completely please?

Reeee reeeee I don't like this, remove!!! Others shouldn't play what I don't want them to!!

ever heard the just don't friggn' queue option? Simpler than anything else. Jeez this removing f-tish....
voidy wrote: »
[...]
One annoying factor is when dungeons are released that *don't* ask much of a tank (that endless sea of final bosses that didn't move, for example, like desolarus, the tree at demokron factory, etc.), [...]

hehe you reminded me of MANY of my DFNM runs where I had to go front (as the healer by the way) to cover up for a missing front player and ress tank. More often than would be normal on a single run by the way
Xeiryl wrote: »
i’ve noticed that hair textures have been changing since ninja hairs were added - they’re heavier on the highlights and each individual piece isn’t quite as heavy/dark as the classic hairs.

it wouldn’t be very hard at all to edit these hair textures to better reflect the color you chose, but it would also be against the tos. cx

On that note: the twin braids one added for Ninja is darker than the other ones at the light blonde color. The straight bunny one for example at the bottom row left corner color is quite close to white, very, VERY light blonde. The braids one at the same tone is at least one tone darker on the color palette.
Hilltrot wrote: »
3) At 65 there are not enough tanks. If you are a good tank, you will be wanted, trust me on that.

ACTUALLLYYYYYY

It will IMS match to people that are all tanks more often than not I will get a message saying " We are having trouble matching you would you like to match without a tank,dps,healer" if you click continue it will pull in whoever is in the matchmaking at that time. How do I know? Because I as a DPS have been put into groups with no healer and nothing but male brawlers.

I could be wrong. I’m not that experienced. I’m pretty sure there wasn’t a mystic as the pets are hard to miss. Could there have been a priest who was meleeing instead of healing? Even with cosmetics Lancers are hard to miss. I guess Its a possibility that one of the elin was a priest.

But to go after #3. Are there not enough tanks or are there not enough good tanks?

How can you get no healer with IM? When the healer backs out after being called.

Boy, this forum is toxic.

1st paragraph: at Lv 44 the Mystic may not be using his thralls properly (or at all), nor even dropping motes. Same with a Priest, at this level you're bound to find 1st time players that are just DPSing their way through and not doing a single heal skill. Yes, people can be that bad without knowing, worse even, knowing it.

2nd one: as of now, there may just not be enough good tanks, but quantity wise the average/bad ones are in loads right now. They also may not be well geared for the higher end content, you'll see that this forum pretty much only cares about the highest tier dungeons, regardless of the playerbase itself caring as much about it or liking more the middle tier stuff at Lv 65. Also as said above, good tank means a whole lot to be fair. Positioning of yourself and boss, avoiding/blocking hits to not eat damage, debuff boss/buff party, keeping aggro (most important of all in my opinion, even as a main healer), some people will even want the "good tank" to be a high part of the DPS.

3rd: Dunno if it changed to allow no healer, could have changed to that. And also as far as I know, you cannot get another DPS/tank if a healer drops from IM and you recruit again. Could be wrong, need confirmation.

4th: heh, this one is not nearly as toxic. Just someone triggered by the 5 tanks thing, bad day moments I assume hehe.
If you wanna see toxicity, get into any topic about DPS meter/proxy. You could do a drinking game: take a shot every time you read the word "white knight" or "cheater". You'll enter alcoholic coma in no time at all. OR enter some elin hating topic and you shall see it from me
1) The system will not make an IMS group without a healer. You either entered manually from outside the dungeon with people on yours server or you are 100% lying.

2) The system looks for 1 healer, then 4 of anything else. It depends on what else is seeking on the other 4 servers. It can put 4 dps, or 4 lancers. It just depends on who is available.

3) At 65 there are not enough tanks. If you are a good tank, you will be wanted, trust me on that.

ACTUALLLYYYYYY

It will IMS match to people that are all tanks more often than not I will get a message saying " We are having trouble matching you would you like to match without a tank,dps,healer" if you click continue it will pull in whoever is in the matchmaking at that time. How do I know? Because I as a DPS have been put into groups with no healer and nothing but male brawlers.

So they changed this recently to also allow no healer, before it was only no tank or DPS, but healer was mandatory regardless, also only for leveling dungeons.

They could have extended it to allow no healer as well for leveling dungeons and not announced in patch notes (not gonna bother to check), ya know, some times even EME has to check manually a lot of stuff that BHS doesn't say for whatever the reason.

OR OP just miscounted it. It's not like he was counting your salary, don't get too hard on it guys (not to you Midoku), it just happens to confuse it.
OR... OP could have entered a party and it was just tanks. Nothing too important, but well: answering to you OP, we just had male brawler so that's why, when female brawler came it was the same, Valkyrie and Ninja too made full DPS (+ healer) parties back then, I think even Elin Gunner had the same effect. New shiny toy on the box, that's it.
Oh jee again this crap, but now on a 100x funnier side: a griever complaining about not being able to do it anymore, OR is this a case of serious masochism?

Well, if you're the griever I could just say "the exit is to the left, don't let the door hit you when you leave", in case you're some hard masochist then the game still has plenty of content honestly, just hit 65 and you shall see.

Yet another point to this whole OWPVP crap: it's not like there would be any of it now anyway, regardless of hard capping out or not. Tell me how many low lvs. are running around on their zones, you'll just not get matched up when trying it other than the small part of the start between Lvs 10~20 (if that even).
G43NPFFT6E wrote: »
HOW TO CHANGE NAME PLS TELL ME!!!!!! HELPPPPOOOEEE NEEEDED :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

THERE'S A NAME CHANGER VOUCHER IN STORE!!!!
BUT IF YOUR CHARACTER IS LOW LEVEL WITHOUT COSTUMES IT MAY BE BETTER TO JUST LEVEL ANOTHER ONE WITH THE NEW NAME!!
HERE THE LINK FOR THE CHANGER: https://store.enmasse.com/tera/item/namech/name-change-voucher

BY THE WAY YOU REMINDED ME OF KIRIYA!! THE BOMB THROWING NPC!!!
I can guess at the literal/technical reason... because EME's servers run on GMT/UTC (as all servers *should*) but BHS programmed the game as if the servers were running on local time. So, 10-12 in the morning PDT = 7pm to 9pm "server time" (UTC)... which would normally be in the evening, if you were in that time zone. So EME would have to somehow manually intervene and change the schedules to make up for the fact that their servers are actually doing the "Right Thing."

That being said, EME probably should take the step to change it, assuming they have an option somewhere to do so.

huehuehue this sounds so BHSish it's funny and tragic at the same time
It's not too surprising this happened, the hairs have severe colour distortion because the way they were made. In all likelyhood these new hairstyles were never created for Tera, they were probably created for another game or something and BHS just imported them to make a quick buck, most likely they were just taken from their new A:IR game.

The reason here is because of the way they handle lighting and texture colouring, it's really common in newer games that have more realistic graphics. Tera's original hairstyles use a much, much older way of handling lightning and texture colouring so the newer hairstyles look entirely different when in the same environment, you'll probably notice it most if you use darker hair colours (like black or red) and less if you use something light like blonde.

It most likely wont get fixed because it would require a fair bit of work to re-make several parts of the hair texture. Like I said before, since the Tera staff probably aren't the ones that made them I doubt they would want to fix them.

You could probably make some of the issue go away if you disabled all the lighting effects in the game, but your game will look worse for it, and the issue probably wont go away entirely.

Your explanation makes sense, like if the hair had some hard coded shine to it. Whoever I don't think it would be that harder to fix it, just some photoshop work on original textures, which I at least hope they have there. Done similar things in The Sims 2 when such things happened (or modded hairstyles), I would bet the modders that open up the game packages and such can make a workaround in a few days if they care.
Not saying that it IS like this or that I know how it has to be done, just speculation based on other cases (like hair color mods for TERA).

Still, the biggest issue with fixing anything, is never how hard it is, but how much will BHS bother. That's the hardest part usually.
hector3361 wrote: »
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Even Worse if your hair color is red.
Or i guess ORANGE now...

To be fair tho, in your case it got quite cute (at least my opinion), in the black one it looks like a granny.

Granted point still valid that it alters the color completely (and I wanted to see how your Elin would look like with it red as it should too).

Yeehaw wrote: »
Nobody cares. Don’t buy it if you don’t want them.

Don't comment if you don't care :cookie:

Why is there something so satisfying about the "you cared enough to reply" comment? I always try to resist it but more often than not post it too
CornishRex wrote: »
Elins surprisingly got the short end of the stick this time. I think all of the human fem ones are pretty decent, elf females also have some cute ones. But they def do look a bit.. lazily done.

yep definitely! To be fair it's not all THHAAATT horrible for Elins, there's one or another that I like, but well, none I would like enough to swap my braids or long twintails to.
The other females tho got some quite nice ones indeed, and the pricing and purchase system is just hands down best of all regions by far, no questions about that. Not just better, but great overall, fair pricing and even added benefits for who didn't want the new ones. Credits should be given where it's due.

Well, being just a new dress up doll item, not like it makes stuff any worse for others who don't want it anyway (does good in fact, adding another hair changer that is cheaper than the other item that does comparable stuff if you want hair only), I mean I get your feels of ranting about their lack of quality and all, but the end of the day is the classic "just don't buy it" approach.
By the way seandynamite (not tagging for no reason you must be FULL of tagged posts there): I suppose the Dressing Room is in process of having those new hairstyles added right? Since there's nothing on the hair section and even pets vanished right now
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Then from what i can understand we are going to have two different voucher which will give us the option to either change to new or classic with the classic being the ones that we had until now? And the classic is needed to help those who might want the "old" hair styles?

I am not sure what is a classic hair style xD


p.s. tail modification sure is interesting as well

yes, exactly this as far as store page and description goes, you change your hair (whatever it is) into any of the currently available in character creation hairstyles, with the Premium Stylist voucher, which costs about half of an appearance changer. No separate ear/tail modification for Elins tho, that's just how it goes on creation. That voucher would be perfect for me when I changed my Priest from straight to braids.

Points up for En Masse for doing it the best way possible! Pricing sounds perfectly fair, and I love this new hair style changer voucher, as last time for example all I did to my character was changer her hair.
CornishRex wrote: »
Dvsv wrote: »
Meningitis wrote: »
AbstractCH wrote: »
They don’t really have the right to be mad, they sent emails. All they had to do was log in for a minute and their name would be saved.
Whether they "had a right to be mad" doesn't really matter (I personally don't think they should have been either). Just because they were being crybabies doesn't mean the outcome changes- and I'm sure EME as a company knows that. Why go through all that effort to wipe names just so people can get upset that names are getting hoarded for selling over and over again, especially when you know potential returning players will also get mad at you for it?

I don't follow you logic.
So, a few ppl will get mad, but how about all these ppl that will be able to create or name change to the names that they want? How about all ppl that will be happy, not mad????
Why shoud EME care so much about a minority that may, or may not return to the game?
Maybe EME should care more about ppl currently playing and supporting the game!
If somebody stop logging for like a 1 year and they don't care even to check their email, then they DESERVE to lose the name!

About name selling: Just make a bannable offense :)



I don't think you get it, but name sellers will be the ones getting those rare names first. So you're screwed either way.
I do agree with you though, eme shouldn't be striving to make name holders happy. I wish they did a server merge already and the biggest reason against it atm is "muh names". But that's another topic.

hhhmmm not just that or dare I say much less the biggest reason, think max character count and such that were a pain in the back during last merge. Anyway like you said this is another topic.

To this one now:
Dvsv wrote: »
Meningitis wrote: »
AbstractCH wrote: »
They don’t really have the right to be mad, they sent emails. All they had to do was log in for a minute and their name would be saved.
Whether they "had a right to be mad" doesn't really matter (I personally don't think they should have been either). Just because they were being crybabies doesn't mean the outcome changes- and I'm sure EME as a company knows that. Why go through all that effort to wipe names just so people can get upset that names are getting hoarded for selling over and over again, especially when you know potential returning players will also get mad at you for it?

I don't follow you logic.
So, a few ppl will get mad, but how about all these ppl that will be able to create or name change to the names that they want? How about all ppl that will be happy, not mad????
Why shoud EME care so much about a minority that may, or may not return to the game?
Maybe EME should care more about ppl currently playing and supporting the game!
If somebody stop logging for like a 1 year and they don't care even to check their email, then they DESERVE to lose the name!

About name selling: Just make a bannable offense :)



I could open up the hypothesis that both the ones that hold the original name, and the ones that want that name, are a minority. How many people are actually unable to use a name they want and didn't alter it somehow to fit? Like, I made a Mystic called Nissan.Skyline.Gtr in AV (hue, epic car tho), but before that I've seen a Priest named Skyline.Biturbo somewhere. Same car, two names, two characters.
My 1st character for that matter: Kuuchan. Was supposed to be Kudryavka.Noumi, wasn't free (when last wipe came I rushed to get it tho), but just used her nickname. And so it goes, I'm impressed OP's names weren't actual anime stuff, it's usually the ones that get taken and fought over.
The ones that hold the name and come back to see it changed, how many would actually feel pissed enough to give up coming back after more than a year?

Point being: everyone involved on this is a minority, and in the end, it happens to just be too little to require attention sadly.

And like many of you said, I agree deeply that name hoarders have to be dealt with. It's a dumb thing in my opinion, but the actual issue is the ease of scamming someone. Too much "have faith in me" to be worth the risk and the bother support reporting a scam about a practice you shouldn't even be doing to begin with (correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't name selling a quite gray area ToS wise?).

It's sadly always easy to contour any restrictions other than heavy chat moderation (that too even, but harder...). Like, I can imagine many countermeasures and at the same time see their weaknesses and how to contour them.
There's no specific policy about them, but rather when they feel like doing a wipe, they call out the wipe.

There has been a wipe like 2~3 years ago (thanks En Masse, got my Kudryavka.Noumi done) but nothing after. That specific time (and only one I know of), they wiped names that were inactive for one year before the deadline, all at the same day, and then released all names at once that time. The removed names didn't actually lose it entirely but got renamed to "(Original name)_1" if I recall.

There's no known plans for another name wipe so far, at least En Masse hasn't told us about, specially given the more or less stalled population that doesn't seem to be increasing much to make name lack a problem, besides the last time (and server merges) provided some other hindrances with it like a ton of name hoarders who created tons of Lv.1 characters with their hoarded anime/series/meme names and held into them trying to sell those, and the few that did come back later and complained about it.


Now to my thoughts: I have posted it before, but I think it should be an automatic system for characters inactive for more than a year. You get an e-mail notifying you 6 months before, another one 3 months, 1 month, 2 weeks..... until last day, then it changes, without telling ANYONE that X name is free. Almost eliminates the chance of hoarding names that just got released, and frees them up for people who want them. Sadly it's not like that but well, it could be a thing.

Truth to be told, it's not anything urgent and such, the vast majority of occupied names that get fought over are memes and characters from anime/series.
Frankly OP, it sounds more like you want a different game, leveling focused, instead of TERA. This game right here is focused on PVE dungeons for grinding your gear basically, and dress up simulator. There has once been PVP too, but I think it was never focused on the leveling itself.

Correct me guys if I'm a bit out of touch (really, TERA is the only RPG I've actually played): leveling centered games take ages to reach cap don't they? Also quests and such way better, more effort taken on the journey than at it's end. TERA being focused at when you do reach the 65.
Tho CS sucking can't be blamed on absolutely anyone else than playerbase itself.
Regardless of balancing, it's true for both sides, rewarding is same, valid for both sides, there's always one team that goes round 1 start: "we're going to lose" "there's X guild there, we have no chance" and proceeds to either AFK in base or do absolutely nothing.

Did I ever mention a round I called one gate (forgot which, I'll name the called gate south just for example), MULTIPLE times, and pinged the gate I called MULTIPLE times.
The team, all of them but me, rushed the other one. No. Fkn'. Kidding. Then, when I was like "WELL, since you're there then just burn that gate! BURN GATE DON'T STOP", the munch of manure split between both gates and started to PVP.

No, I mean seriously. They did exactly this.


CS is a Russian roulette, your chances of wining are 50%, and you can increase that to... maybe 55% (since you're 1 player out of 20). You just roll the roulette to see if you took the bullet in your head or is your enemy that takes the manure sack team instead. Technically it's an amazing BG full of teamwork and strategical command required, the best team wins. Reality is a lot more cruel and it's all about who gets the most useless idiots.
[...]

Perhaps I should try to level by picking flowers and mining.

Reminds me about the story of Pacifist, the Baraka Priest who reached 65 (or was he during the Lv 60 days) only by gathering, non-kill quests, and crafting. His entire kills are only a handful of mandatory 1st levels so you can get out of Island of Dawn or some handful of moments he had to self defend against mobs
@Equitas ye seems my joke at the end and confusion about the general picture made it unclear.

My point on that comment is just that yes, there's two types of people: the ones who want to learn, and the ones who hate when people try to teach, and will refuse to learn. The later is quite toxic, and seems to be the type you encountered.

About the 1st part, I was just wonder how it actually turned out into such a cussfight only over a learning group, but your reply cleared it up how it turned out like this.

To be clear, the part about you implying they suck was a joke (like, I tried to clear this up on last paragraph but oh well seems it backfired), but it seems like those players took your learning runs that way, simply a bunch of whinnies.
Not on accusations, as what I feel this is more like just a resume of it, but feels like a lot of what led to the whole cuss party is lacking. Sounds more like a snowball than tickle to explode all nukes. Don't take this into an accusation to you, that's nowhere what I mean, I just usually see these situations as a snowball instead of single blast. THO, I'll not deny that even I have made sudden blasts every now and then so it can happen indeed, but I usually do it on the form of seeing some elitist kick (like kicking a Priest out of a friggin' LFG just cause muh mystics muh DPS) or such, it blows the fuse quite quickly for me.

Back to the main part of topic (even tho that wasn't full oftopic either): I think the community is divided into 2 parts:
1: the ones who suck or not, are wiling to learn, and will read a guide for a dungeon if really needed, regardless of whether they would LIKE to read a guide or not, I'm the type that doesn't exactly like them, I always prefer to just get told the mechanics and try to learn it on practice. Usually works, sometimes not exactly (too complex to describe in chat text alone), so when it doesn't work, well... Guide it is.
2: the ones who suck or not, are not wiling to learn. They know it. They've been born knowing it and you suck for telling he should do this and that, you're not god to rule over! You're not my mom!

You seem to have met type 2. Which is quite stupid considering you were holding practice/learning runs of dungeons, people would only come to those wanting to learn it.

Basically, you either hit a bad apple rotting so badly there's flies over it and it's stinking the whole room, OR you hid something very nasty on the topic and actually told they all suck and should die! Shame on you!!!
Obvious joke on that last one but yeah, some people are very sensitive about their lack of ability it seems and will go thermonucular on you
Do I count as well if I once made a female amani mystic called Toyota.Supra? tho I deleted her later
No?
sorry I tried to join...
"you don't understand my comment at all" there's nothing to understand when you take factual data, say it doesn't relate to reality, create a mental fanfic that the game is for a bunch of sexual deviants into kids because of a race, spew all the things about how they're making this reputation, how players who play them make this reputation, then end with the most incoherent possible thing, saying you don't even hate them. Yet you expressed all possible forms of saying they're the biggest disgrace here and literally creating a sexual deviance relationship to it.

There's nothing to understand about your comment when you just twist factual data and then later proceed to personal attacks, there's no real arguments to base it on, just your theory that people see TERA as a deviant game because of Elins and that your choice would have been the best, something you just made up out of your mind. It's that same passionate screams that have been going forever on each topic on this forum, be it males, DPS meters, other 3rd party tools, balancing, you name it, people will distort whatever facts or even words, and throw at your face the "you're an idiot, shut up", which you try to tell I'm doing, meanwhile since the very start all I'm saying - and anyone who isn't passionately into hating me can see - is that yes, the game is already in a bad shape and every update is going "meh" tier of development, so please, now that they're taking a step into the direction you want, at least some thumbs up for them, constructive criticism is OK, but downright useless bashing? Just proves it wasn't worth investing in 1st place. They are NOT going to make a millionaire project for something that they got no sure return.

See, I'm actually doing a favor to the whole male fanbase by trying to slow down the cussing and bashing, yet, some very specifically passionate people want to come and put it as "I'LL NOT SHUT UP! IT'S MY RIGHT TO VOICE IT!" and distort it since start, end of the day, these stupid back and forth replies with name calling.

About you "never said anything about this and that", don't play dumb. If there's one thing I see you're good at, it's sugarcoating and hiding behind prettier words the exact same meaning. Heck not even all that great at that, when you go and basically rub the meaning (the entire sexual deviancy thing related to Elin) anyway, just to say "no no, I never said this"... yeah right.


Look, I've tried to put it in a way that the male playerbase can have the goodies for them too, but like I said, you guys are always screaming it's not enough, too late, too little, and everyone who tries to calm this down like "hey, at least show them what you don't like but that it IS in a better light than before", everyone who isn't passionately on the same side, is a white knight. Which yes, you didn't see, but again as always hiding the meanings: "[...]and have this misguided mindset that the misstakes they make, is a step in the right direction, when you can't even see the abyss it's leading towards" <- the exact meaning of white knight ain't it?
feminzii wrote: »
the excuse they gave is that it would make pvp confusing

That's quite the halfassed excuse, considering an animal suit character would look like literally nothing, so totally undetectable class wise until entering combat, and all other costumes would do the same to lesser extent (you at least could possibly see race)
*Phase 1 of FC store revamp.

I bet they're doing those on another phase, template/remodeling thing likely ain't coming back tho, as far as I remember them saying. Also has to be re-coded for new stuff, so easier to just let EME do FC store phase 2 revamp.
I understand your point, and would actually love that too, whoever I understand why they keep them locked per type:
Fashion Coupon costumes are basically the only game immersion type of costumes you can get, save for a handful other armor designs in EMP store.
Meanwhile I would love to make a heavy armor looking Slayer (totally not trying to make a loli Saber), I still understand how they would want to keep the only possible source of lore/immersive outfits as they are.
Seems you like typing, so hope you like reading, cause I did bother reading your wall, go on to mine then: I get it, I get it. Quite easy to take a 5 min. analysis and see you're avoiding as much the easily detectable as flaming therm "elin players are all a bunch of ped0s" as expected.
More so, you're just putting your group which is only bigger than the Femani fanbase as some kind of special gods who would have made TERA the WoW killer and all.

Sadly, you have absolutely nothing to back your claims that they killed the game and your so beloved males would have saved it. Contrary to that, the interview I linked proves my point. The infographics from past years prove my point. But you'll still claim to be some kind of neglected savior of the game that would have succeeded if it wasn't for adding Elins, which weren't even a playable race at start, but got added into the betas per request as a filler race. Turns out, infographics prove this was a good idea.

They ARE shooting in the dark in even investing into a copy & paste of another class to males. They did the exact same copy & paste for Elin Gunner, and this is why I say there's a whole lot of difference and weird entitlement from the male playerbase: Elin fans knew since the start it was just a crappy copy, all we cared was making an Elin Gunner. Now, if you compare both male Brawlers and Elin Gunners, you could see how moot the point of "everyone who wanted to make a (class here) already did so and won't do again" argument is. I'm waiting for data to rub on the people who use this excuse.

"Elin lovers are a minority group, if you cater to a minority group, your game will never ever grow.
As i said, you already see this with how few ppl play Tera."
The minority as I said, shows well in the infographics even from many years ago when there wasn't any proper bias towards them from the developers, when they were just that filler race that made success. Again, claiming BS is easier than refuting it. And you've got absolutely 0 data to back your claims that I'm the niche (which I still know I am, but inside the TERA community, which IS a niche hence I'm a niche, I'm not), while you're some kind of savior to rescue the game cause this horrible race is ruining it since start.

Call it a quick money grab all you want, this is how the business works, they are working TO grab the money, the quicker and cheaper for higher income the better. Male brawler was a shot in the dark, listening to only loud mouths that proclaim themselves to save the game, yet... they're here cussing.

yet, this is only the more factual analysis of the post, and then comes the golden part: the personal warfare of anyone who disagrees with you passionately:

"you're overly emotional, short sighted, selfish, conservative, and defend every misstake the devs make, and have this misguided mindset that the misstakes they make, is a step in the right direction, when you can't even see the abyss it's leading towards." Heh, directly personal, at least no frills on that. The funniest part is that your very 1st comments were exactly this same pattern, complaining selfishly how it's not what you expected and short sighted in not seeing this at all as some 1st step towards making the class restrictions less of a thing. And now you know me perfectly, that I "defend every developer's mistake", nice try in hiding the "whiteknight" word there to avoid mods, but I'm not dumb enough to not see it. Funniest thing is I said on one of the 1st posts on this trend of male brawler after release that the devs were among TERA's worst enemies. Oh well, convenient memory/lack of reading!
"You seem like the person who would defend your abusive partner, just because he/she is sometimes nice, but mostly punching you...because they care about you." Thanks for another completely stupid personal jab that makes no sense. Yet you want to be taken seriously.

"also you have this weird idea that men are bad for the game, and a bad influence, and should be disregarded, [...]" Where the HECK this came from??? You're literally inventing words and things I never said nor tried to hide (unlike someone here is trying to).

Your whole life story tho, nice, good for the parts involved. Like. I. Cared. And you literally just showing what I'm trying to say too: the management took a little risk (investing in low income source), now just make that investment worth it. Show they should invest MORE on it. Not what you're doing. Taking your dumb abusive relationship thing you claim about me: why don't you show how good it is when good is made instead of cussing at it when there's a lot more to complain about?


Funniest part is I see this crap going on and on, mods are likely not active on weekend so monday morning this will be closed. Hopefully. Cause it sure ain't getting productive anymore. Passionate screams and personal attacks cause disagrees, nice job. "But you're a child doing the same" yes, I should just quietly take crap on me I assume?
tisnotme wrote: »
lol this thread amusing
its all just copy n past
male brawler with female animations

tell you one thing ive notice then out of this copy n past female animated male brawler , he rides the mount like a male not side saddle like the female brawler ~ must be a bug on the copy n past material
just saying !!!!

Well, Male Human specific stuff still retains, like he keeps the same run, jumps, emotes and such (including ride) but when entering combat or casting a skill, the copy & paste triggers. Frankly after playing a Brawler in female form, the only thing that looks stupid is the death pose, could at least copy that from an archer or anything else that the weapon doesn't interfere with dying animation. Everything else is generic enough.
As I said for other classes too, most animations nowadays are generic enough, it's not like Elin Priest's cutesy spins or such that would look stupid on other race, even Ninja and Reaper are quite generic in that sense, with some occasional exceptions
ElinLove wrote: »
I'm not gonna quote passionate screams here, it's just useless to do so after all, and just leave this here: Stop posing as if I'm just not caring about you male players. I was glad the male brawler came, regardless of wanting one or not. I don't really care if you guys get all new classes unlocked for males while the females ain't getting all unlocks (like all female races Gunner, Ninjas, Valkyries and Reapers), I ain't caring about that.
What I really think is pretty disgusting, is how after all those years, you all make nothing else than excuses that it's not what you wanted, you trash it as much as possible. It just shows it wasn't worth it after all. I'm not even saying you should get used to bad content (hey, you're a TERA player, you should by now), it's just as much you should expect from a niche filler, a shot in the dark. You can claim you didn't want any exclusivity or stuff like that but the final form shows otherwise, the entire bashing shows exactly that. You wanted the perfection that you're not paying for.

People come and go from TERA, people come back, leave for a while, even I do this and I used to be mad passionate about this game. Now if you're telling me that the male fans ain't bothering coming back, it's too late, it's too bad to bother, then it all just shows: why even care about those loud mouths after all?

All I see is passionate screaming of caps lock assault rifles shooting "I want this game to be better!!" while trashing the steps it takes into it's direction. You didn't want it to get better, you wanted it all exactly your way. You'll not get it, you don't move enough money to scream and get served on a golden plate 1 second after your screams. You got something, you cussed it directly. You just proved it wasn't worth.

Yes, I know it's all a big snowball, it started with female preference, they moved more money (possibly disproportionally more than gender distribution would make it look), and in turn they invest more on the bigger money maker, leading to it's expansion. But the snowball had a reason to keep getting bigger, based on the players in most part. Now, they've gone on the opposite direction of their sure money grabber, and done a small step to try pleasing the playerbase that wants males. And what they get? Well, you can see it here. "It's too terrible", "It's too late, they've all left", "it's too little to come back". Conclusion? Screw that, back to Elin.

You're exactly reason why they don't bother.

make all classes elins from now on since its too late lol.

And then, the male players go nuts again. "Oh jee stop this! Let's unlock the classes for males, OK, OK, here it is guys"
~they go and complain it's trash and ain't coming back and it's too late~
Ardire wrote: »
Moripansu wrote: »
I would kill for a nice long hairstyle for females. Something like the long hair human females got with brawler release

you mean like the castanic hair with the blunt bangs that we've had since release?
or the female elf hair with the side bangs that's the most popular by far?
or the elin hair with the blunt bangs and curls/long hair with the fox ears?

Similar, but still far enough. One is a very long straight with bangs, those all others are WAY shorter even if long, and curly on top of that. I'm not familiar with the elf one tho, but I don't remember any elf hair looking like that human one we got with Brawler, so I would say the point stays 100% valid on that.

Would love to death an Elin hairstyle like this one and fox ears, would be a total 10/10
I'm not gonna quote passionate screams here, it's just useless to do so after all, and just leave this here: Stop posing as if I'm just not caring about you male players. I was glad the male brawler came, regardless of wanting one or not. I don't really care if you guys get all new classes unlocked for males while the females ain't getting all unlocks (like all female races Gunner, Ninjas, Valkyries and Reapers), I ain't caring about that.
What I really think is pretty disgusting, is how after all those years, you all make nothing else than excuses that it's not what you wanted, you trash it as much as possible. It just shows it wasn't worth it after all. I'm not even saying you should get used to bad content (hey, you're a TERA player, you should by now), it's just as much you should expect from a niche filler, a shot in the dark. You can claim you didn't want any exclusivity or stuff like that but the final form shows otherwise, the entire bashing shows exactly that. You wanted the perfection that you're not paying for.

People come and go from TERA, people come back, leave for a while, even I do this and I used to be mad passionate about this game. Now if you're telling me that the male fans ain't bothering coming back, it's too late, it's too bad to bother, then it all just shows: why even care about those loud mouths after all?

All I see is passionate screaming of caps lock assault rifles shooting "I want this game to be better!!" while trashing the steps it takes into it's direction. You didn't want it to get better, you wanted it all exactly your way. You'll not get it, you don't move enough money to scream and get served on a golden plate 1 second after your screams. You got something, you cussed it directly. You just proved it wasn't worth.

Yes, I know it's all a big snowball, it started with female preference, they moved more money (possibly disproportionally more than gender distribution would make it look), and in turn they invest more on the bigger money maker, leading to it's expansion. But the snowball had a reason to keep getting bigger, based on the players in most part. Now, they've gone on the opposite direction of their sure money grabber, and done a small step to try pleasing the playerbase that wants males. And what they get? Well, you can see it here. "It's too terrible", "It's too late, they've all left", "it's too little to come back". Conclusion? Screw that, back to Elin.

You're exactly reason why they don't bother.
this brings the question: when will we get new weapon skins in general? Ain't it that there just aren't coming new skins? Still valid obviously, it just can be extended.
@ElinUsagi I love when you rub this pic on people's faces, and the excuses still just level up to 65 faster than our characters farming Kumas

Also rubbing more salt on the would: Elin is pretty close percentage wise to the other races combined male + female.

May as well bring up the topic on how schoolgirl swimsuits for Elins saved TERA from closing down and made the F2P possible to begin with, on the old forums: http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/BHS-Elin-saved-Tera

Yes, this is just rubbing on wounds, but my point with this bully is to: STOP making excuses for your whining, stop trying to make it sound like bigger masses are spreading the word. Just do your own part, show your worth yourself instead of trying to assign blame or anything.

Yes, it's halfassed but so is every other content here, including Elin Gunner which Elin players rejoiced even tho the class is meh anyway.
RNNT4FP55J wrote: »
Here's how it is.
The devs only care about female chars, which is why all new classes are gender locked.
to make them available to male chars, they'd need to make new gunner armors for each race/gender, which would take a lot of time, as well as new animation for each race/gender...and they'd rather not.
With brawler they did the bare minimum of just stuffing human male model on female skeleton, because they don't want to do anything more with male chars.
To me the devs are pervs who probably sit and do hentai with the female chars, and don't really care about the game all that much anymore.
If they were serious about the game, they'd have taken the time and effort to make all new classes for every race/gender, but they don't.
The whole thing with human male brawler, is the laziest effort i've ever seen in any game, it should show everyone where the devs stand.
I mean, it took them YEARS to even make the laziest effort ever, to make male brawler.
It doesn't matter if less people play male chars - less people play elin, so by that logic, they shouldn't release elin exclusive classes at all.
To repeat what i said above, the devs do what they want to do, they don't give a [filtered] about the players, least of all non-Korean players.

Aww please, pulling the "you're all perverts" card again, can't even think of a better argument?

It's OBVIOUSLY haflassed. It's not a new class and more like a try out of a base concept (male characters - worth halfassing it or not even that?). Elin Gunner was the EXACT same thing. Don't try to argue back, they're a Ctrl+C - Ctrl+V of Castanic gunner with a new in-combat idle stance - guess what - exactly like Male Brawler.
Proportionally, it took them LONGER to halfass an Elin Gunner, than to make Male Brawler, considering the release interval between original class and the copy & paste on new race/gender. Neither were even meant to be a big thing, but rather just a filler. Fun fact: Elin Gunner, even halfassed as-is, is what Elin fans wanted anyway. But well, you can't please male fans it seems, not even taking a small step 1st to maybe one day take a bigger one, nooo.... Give 'em a male class? "It's not what I wanted!". Well, whatever I guess.
That "less people play elin" logic has no real logic behind it to begin with, you just need to look at the 5th anniversary infographic. If you're trying to compare the full percentage of all males of all races to Elin alone, then well, that's quite a crappy comparison and it's funny to see how well Elin stands against that much competition as well.

You're saying over and over on the post that they don't care about the game cause not making males. But.... well... sadly it's not that you just let devs do as they please, they do as the money says. Girls sell, sorry to break it down to this. It's NOT a wise investment to dump tons of money (even the copy and paste job requires someone to be paid to do, and debug it to an extent, then make it not have interaction problems lore-wise and such) into something with uncertain return. And basically, you are one of the many reasons why they are indeed not caring about it. Do the porting, promote it, release, and the ones who screamed "MALES NOW!" the most suddenly spit at it. Reminder I don't see any Elin Gunner players complaining about the carbon copying there.

Oh well, seems like TERA's 2nd worst enemy after the management team is not the programming team anymore, I rank the playerbase the 2nd worst enemy beating by far the lack of optimization.
I'm curious about tail (which I bet it does change as well), but from the images shown on the promotional video, the hairstyles have each their ears, same as all hairstyles for Elin. Want braids? Go bunny. Want these braids rolled up? Go squirrel. Want ponytail? Go kitty.

Always been like this with hair, and the models showing the new hair do vary the ears. I think it's the same with Castanics isn't it? Horns change on new hairstyle.


And then, I go back to my good old hammering the same key, beating the bones of the long dead horse, and say: We should have the ability to change ears and tail separated from hair, same with horns. It's 3D model-wise and in therms of textures all different entities anyway, poporis can choose head, body and tail that neither of the 3 match, no idea why we locked this way.
Zoknahal wrote: »
Apparently those that change or remove hairstyles, do work on popos, otherwise you would not be able to do this in Jtera:
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Im still figuring out how to turn the thing 180 degrees down.

*There one of the rotation thingies that rotates across this axis. Whoever I think it only goes like 90º wasn't it... Combining all rotations together could do it (as you'll end up doing some diagonals and crap I don't wanna define mathematically, screw that I'm not in classes right now)
Let's also not just take a dump on all hopes and assume directly that the RNG version is auto-apply. I'm happy with an RNG in-game obtainable that you use the voucher, generates random hairstyle to your race, cannot trade the generated hairstyle, but you can decide to discard it. I'm OK with this, as we've just been told that there will be a 100% sure chance one on market.

Yes, obviously it can always have it's caveats but I'm not hoping the worst. An in-game obtainable RNG + sure chance cash shop one sounds way more fair than what costumes have been for a while (RNG only dyeable one + sure chance normal only, no in-game version unless with luck some event)
Xuekao wrote: »
I don't know why people are acting surprised. They did it with Gunner. You should of expected it to happen to male Brawler. Not much you can change with the animations tbh.

To be honest I'm sorta disappointed they didn't halfass Elin Gunner enough (hue), the idle combat stance of Castanic Gunner is 10/10 and I wanted that pose
Dvsv wrote: »
Just keep in mind that most of these ppl probably already left the game a long ago. :)

So it wasn't all that worth, is what I would take from this. Wasn't enough for them to come back? Well... why bother? Keep that in mind. If it's that unimportant that players won't bother coming back to a free to play game... It's not like you're mandated to buy Elite and grind your soul out just to play again.

Like Usagi said: Show yourselves up male fans, show you're something, show it's worth investing in you. Ain't bothering with useless screaming, didn't work for Elin armors to get changed back to K-TERA versions, ain't gonna work now. Show how much it's worth, everyone can make excuses beforehand to keep it safe and say "hurr durr too late". Well, if too late then too late, no need to bother anymore. Show that's not the case.
Satchin wrote: »
So if we go ahead and say sabotage this by, lets say going out of our way and suggesting people have an off kilter sexual orientation for playing male characters towards anyone who makes one, we can secure that there will be no more new classes other than elins?

That's what Elin haters try all the time after all, didn't work yet but those haters kinda deserve some shots back. Obviously ain't gonna do this, no need to screw up the good folks that got what they wanted after so long just out of silly revenge to a small vocal troll base.
Regardless of liking males (sorry, I'm not gonna make a male brawler just to add numbers, that's not my war, I'm not fighting it. Not gonna half-heartedly make it, or tops I'll do one for Kumas farming), I'll always support the idea of more variety and catering to all niches possible, after all I do know I'm a niche in western gaming (tho not one inside the TERA community).

I really ain't got anything against people who like to RP or self insert into the character, nor the ones who want to make a character only based on what they wanna see on the screen (that's me by the way, I like cute girls, I do cute girls). Toxic people will always want to screw into either of those types, or even the ones who just do troll characters. I'm in other hand all fine with people making whatever they want on characters, be it troll, self insert or eye-candy.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
ElinLove wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
I hope they're trying to make it less expensive and rng for a pleasant surprise
;)

dat wink

Oh my gawd that wink... WHAT MEANS A WINK?

False hopes "Maybe they are all going to be outside RNG".

AT THE VERY LEAST, Dressing Room has a section specially for hair. Which is to assume it's preview-able at least before voucher acquisition. How the vouchers work, I'm still wondering. Well, the hat changer at 3K ain't the best of the deals too but eh, it's there.
Also, as far as I managed, you cannot try something on Dressing Room, and then resize it to see how it looks resized before making the purchase of the item/having it already. Basically, you cannot try a resized version of something you don't have. I suggest this to be changed, as people may want to buy something that looks good resized/repositioned but ain't taking the chance to see if it will or will not look good resized after a purchase.
Simple and effective anti-bot measure, nothing that would do harm to other people.
You can't fail the Simon-says game THAT hard without standing still on the same spot after all. I can only see a small portion that would genuinely get sad at this, and they're the type that I would never try to please in the 1st place so be it.
CornishRex wrote: »
I hope they're trying to make it less expensive and rng for a pleasant surprise
;)

dat wink

Oh my gawd that wink... WHAT MEANS A WINK?
I hope I ain't getting overhyped for that UI optimization thing for no reason!
RipleyW wrote: »
Oh thank you for your response, and Indeed I made Priest Level 61 before asking this question on here in Ascension Valley and I did notice more people on Tempest Reach, Now I probably will regret even going to AV Y.Y

I would say "Yay another friend!!" but then it occurred to me that I also have a Priest and in the server we are, I just got concurrence to my LFG applications...

Just kidding but yeah, AV is in quite bad shape. Still, depending on time zone, you may have varying results on each server, AV is a total random scatter place.
Yes, as mentioned above, but adding to the numbers: the full install folder size is about 43GB here as well indeed, and if you re-install I would bet it still re-downloads files it won't use, because as mentioned above, the game may use some of those whenever a dungeon comes back and such.
Also yes, not worth the trouble of trimming the TERA folder, tho I get it that this may not be what you're after, maybe only if it was easier but it's not all that easy.

Just as some metrics: I don't use steam for TERA (never used), and the size is identical.
ElinLove wrote: »
It was if I recall either a cloud computing service test, or a different location test. I bet more on the cloud computing thing, cause pretty much everyone said they had higher ping but always stable, regardless of crazy stuff going on.
And then, they ended up closing the server with a Spacecats stream where they "stress tested" it (aka troll overloaded it on purpose) and crashed it madly, ending with a bang

Yeah, it was testing a cloud service provider. iIRC, people traced the IP address at the time and found it was hosted in Azure (Microsoft's cloud platform).

Since it did ran smoother than normal servers, I wonder if it's got more to do with people count there, or if it's raw power. Being the later, would be interesting to know which CPU architecture would work the best for the TERA's server code. After all it's a lost battle to try to hope for server code optimization, so maybe switching to another architecture (like from x86-63 server CPUs to multiple Tesla graphics parallel processors or such) that can run it better would be a nice decision.

Yes, I know this takes investment but eh...
tisnotme wrote: »
+1000

Girls need something to drool at too please. Where are our big burly brawler men in bikinis? C'mon people.
borat-mankini.jpg

Add some gantlets to it and you win the loading screen contest
Let me see if I get: this was some copy post cause you were formerly banned/post auto-deleted, and now that it's become irrelevant since the original post got back, we're just spamming that price meme?
Ardire wrote: »
can't believe i didn't keep reading and now i'm dead

HA! I did read it! Now see ya in heII!!!
Zoknahal wrote: »
But the mech suits that go along this skibs, will poof on the 13th. Which is the release of the male brawler.

From the store. If I'm not wrong, they won't get deleted/made useless by the 13th isn't it?
Eme did have a test server last year if i recall correctly it was called Wonderholme server and it was insanely fun and hilarious would love to see it return and they had said it was possible to return...Gosh I miss it...
That wasn't to test anything though.....
All the features on that server could have been done on a normal server. There was nothing new about that server other than "fun"

It was to test a different data center and see whether it was better or worse for people's ping times. So yeah, they only turned on events for fun. But they have also created test servers in the past for PvP tournaments as well, in addition to having closed "pre-release" testing servers for new major patches, so it's not impossible they could do various things if they had the time or need to do it.

I think they used to create Canyon Clash servers too, where they imported/remade your character somehow for you to participate on the event wasn't it? Or at least something like this.
Eme did have a test server last year if i recall correctly it was called Wonderholme server and it was insanely fun and hilarious would love to see it return and they had said it was possible to return...Gosh I miss it...
That wasn't to test anything though.....
All the features on that server could have been done on a normal server. There was nothing new about that server other than "fun"

It was if I recall either a cloud computing service test, or a different location test. I bet more on the cloud computing thing, cause pretty much everyone said they had higher ping but always stable, regardless of crazy stuff going on.
And then, they ended up closing the server with a Spacecats stream where they "stress tested" it (aka troll overloaded it on purpose) and crashed it madly, ending with a bang
CuteAngel wrote: »
Inb4 10 pages of EU butt kissing.

Rather... how much is EME paying you to lick their but*ocks, cos otherwise i cannot explain so much ardour...

kek, the player that is UP TO THIS DAY poking EME and cussing them as hard as he/she can about the vanguard halving thingy.

Yes, totally a paid white knight.

But it's as always: disagree with me = you're wrong, stupid and a paid white knight who's opinion should be discarded.
Of all the things to complain about. *insert Viola leaving gif*

nah, hating too pervy Elin loading screens is a classic, it was about to return at any given point. In fact you don't even have to "necro" to bring back the exact same topic like 3x.
Well I get it that people don't like some of them (heck I dislike quite some of them on an artistic level, some honorable mentions beat the crap out of some winners), but as said, it's Elin Gunner contest loading screens, soon we'll have half nude hunky machos on our screens and I'll not come here to complain about it even tho I'll hate it to the high heavens.
Besides I never kinda got the whole deal about them being oooohh so horribly perverted, heck it's usually even less than in-game stuff, the majority of it is cutesy types. People are just way too sensitive about Elins sometimes, meanwhile I've never actually seen any child that looks like an elin but eh... They're very fantasy-like if you ask me.

~incoming "hurrr durr Elin Love posting disregard this"~
*What CornishRex said above. If you have already cleared the dungeon, you can leave it/drop normally without getting any penalty for it (it's actually how you do get out of parties after clear).

Whoever if you do mean you entered it only for a specific quest inside it, and didn't clear the dungeon, as in getting the last boss killed, then you'll get penalized, but what about the rest of the party?

Also... judging from the time of the post, even trying to drop normally would have solved it and cleared the dropout penalty already so in the end this just worked as some kind of discussion/tutorial instead

EDIT: by the way wasn't the new kicking rules supposed to make it a lot easier to kick offliners? Wonder what's going on here
Lapomko wrote: »
Never say never. If EME would want to follow the right direction maybe once in their lifetime they would do it. Could be a good stress test and to weed out all the bugs.

THIS, actually makes sense: testing out if our own NA servers can hold up their task.
Like, we're getting the patch pushed down our throats like it or not, buggy or not. BUT, we can make sure we clear up the worst server related issues before it goes live, nice idea.
Excluding PVP server (so MT) that would be TR aka Tempest Reach, as far as I've seen people say here on chat.
Eager for the hat placement thing too, got quite some cuties I wanted to put ribbons on but it looks weirdly placed or sized.
Seriously hyped for that we all know Dress Up Simulator is the real TERA end game
Lapomko wrote: »
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
And please also don't forget the people that play the broker. Some people invested alot into talents and if enmasse intervenes these people would feel stabbed in the back losing milions of gold.

Since when En Masse should defend and aid players that are trying to make a profit by trying to have a monopoly on the market in game knowing that the items with high demand can be bought at XX and sold back with 50% or more? I am actually quite upset seeing this player on MT buying so much when there is a high demand on certain items and selling back with 50% added in stacks of 500 or 1000 ruining the market in so many ways ( i am a crafter and i get screwed hard with this stuff ).

Anyway, i hope that we will get some events or stuff for talents because the high demand along with the broker sharks made the talents to be harder and harder to get ( we did not even get the male brawler yet ).

That's called a Free Market and it's an essential part of the game. Enmasse intervention is not and only had negative effect on the economy in the past. Deflation/Inflation happens all the time in every MMORPG and don't forget top tier players are stocking them up too for awakening patch which will come out soon.
In the first place no one was doing low tier iod farming and instead spammed the crap out of guardians non stop as it was much better way to get gold and then buy talents from the broker. Now the supplies dwindled as people stopped doing them. Adding an event to pump more golden talents would just make it obsolete again.

Let's be fair here: ANY broker player/hoarder should know it since the very beginning that TERA's economy comes closer to a mix of socialist system and some free market that can be crushed at any moment, than 100% free market. The devs and publisher hold onto your gold and commodity earning methods, and reward you as they set. Brokerage and direct trade is where we go free market mode, but anyone should always be ready for some massive loss from a total change of mind from En Masse and BHS, since THEY control the flow of materials and their need.

If you really want to not get screwed completely while playing the broker, you do need to keep in mind that, they control it a lot, regardless of them messing up or not it's still under their control and will always be. If hoarders/broker players don't want to get screwed, they also have to control their own level of hoarding and profiting so that it doesn't become a monopoly that screws over the player base that doesn't participate in it. Otherwise, nanny state will go and please the masses, and you know it. If people complain they can't get enough tokens enough? Bang! New token spamming event. Be it because they didn't know how to set the rewarding for tasks in the 1st place or because of hoarders, this all has to be taken into account, and be ready for any massive incoming screw up, which they WILL do eventually, in a way or another.

If I ever bothered with playing broker, one thing I would take into account and you guys likely do as well, is the voicing of concern about materials availability. Too much and you know you'll get screwed later for hoarding any. Time for some flash sales, Black Friday came earlier this year.
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Also, i hope that the random hair styles will be with the fasion coupons while the specific ones with EMP.

Well, no. Pls no. Why? Can't see the point in that.

I can easily see what he means tho: We've seen how it was dealt with in K-TERA: Full paid RNG crap. In Europe: you get the full RNG crap that AUTO APPLIES with fashion coupons, and one that doesn't auto-apply with cash. I can see the proposed method as a way to get the best possible outcome: say you get the coupon for random + auto-apply at low FC count (proportionally low). Then more expensive random one without auto-apply. Then an EMP version that you can, dunno, random but trade it or just select manually the new hairstyle with the most expensive variant.

Like, obviously we could always hope for the best outcome possible like you just chose the one you want with FCs and apply but that's quite unrealistic to hope. I bet more on the above.
Vinyltails wrote: »
ElinLove wrote: »
Also the assumption of them being coded outside of the system is also a wild assumption, as we literally know nothing of the actual code running now, let alone future updates that didn't even hit yet.

But we do.........Lorri (The guy who translates Ktera) said the DAY it came out in Ktera (you know, the BASE GAME THAT GETS PATCHES FIRST CAUSE ITS THE SOUCE AND THEY'RE THE DEVS), that it was purely coded out of character creation. This was pretty much done so it makes people buy the tickets (Spend MONEY) to get new hair styles

"coded out"
I don't think we have the same meaning in head now Viny: this can either mean that the code for it locks it out of character creation, even tho it shares the exact same code as any normal hair in the system (which is the most cost-effective programming route), OR: it was coded as a separate code block, outside of the main hair code. See? It can mean 2 vastly different things, which I bet highly on the former. This, in turn, would allow a very, VERY easy way to adopt it into a character creation hairstyle, but this requires BHS to not suck.

I may be the type that reads too much into things, as actually I do know I AM this type, but, it does feel like you're trying as hard as possible to make it look like I'm too stupid for not knowing through all those years of game and a couple on forum, where this game is from and who's Loriri/idi0tic-genius and where the translations come from.
Being that the case, I would kindly request to pipe it down instead, I didn't say anything utterly idiotic to try to pose it as this, ignore if not in any case, or better, would be a nice idea to review how you word your stuff to not show up as being needlessly a [filtered].

mystic was one of the 8 original classes, it was never a new class

I've been here since paid beta sweetie, trust me I know what I am actually talking about I only wish I still had the screenshots to back it with.

I remember seeing it in prototype art I remember because it was the prototype art that made me get into Tera in the first damn place however they later canceled out the idea of another DPS and went with another healing class. Darling, I've been following Tera news before Tera was even a thing so go troll someone else.

that's a heck lot of love on your comment eh

Back at beta talk: if I recall, even Elins used to not being a thing right? Weren't they like added later following the popularity of the teleporter NPCs and other Elin NPCs?
Also calling them Elin and not Popori to avoid bestiality analogies when thinking of reproduction huehue
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