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Posts by CornishRex
Furhyan wrote: »
Gameforge's dressing is complete. Eme just wants us to RNG them to know if they were actually worth all the money spent :expressionless:

It's still missing hairs though :'(
You both type like bots> @JTNEEH4K3K said:
> Aaaand, parampam https://teralore.com/en/achievement/737/

Yes, read what @Sarumonin said
It's only on gameforge, which is the publisher of tera eu for the pc. Tera eu for console is published by EME. Hence no title. For whatever reason.
> @EJECWCWG55 said:
> H6655DYXE9 wrote: »
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> region exclusive cosumables/buffs that are much stronger compared to the strong braveries/canephora being removed in NA.
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> Cash shop - p2w consumables.

Not at all. Combat accelerator (extra 15% damage) on eu is obtainable through ghillie and broker and weekend events and is very commonly used. It's literally an extra strong cane that stacks on cane/bravery.
What possesses bhs/eme to always do the opposite of what their players want?
Sanya78 wrote: »
U ran out of mana?

I was doing more tests to figure out what cause this issue and most likely yes I'm running out mana, then my buffs gone, because they need mana to have on. I think this is the case.
Can somebody confirm this? Is this meant to be?

Oh wait you're a mystic, lol I thought you were a valk for some reason, read this too early in the morning.
Yes the issue is running out of mana. When you run out of mana your auras turn off automatically. You can switch to 3 cunning crystals and one swift and poop blue motes so u can pick them up when you're low on mana. After you get your most important talents (volley of curses crit resist and resurrect) you can get the corruption ring talent that restores mana if you're full health when you use it, it completely solved mana issues for me. Also you can get some mana pots.
Mystic apex buffs disappear when you get knocked down, did you?
You both type like bots, jesus lol
https://teralore.com/en/achievement/737/
Seems you are correct though, pc had those titles and titles given to everyone that leveled in 24 hours. No idea how eme came up with the idea to remove the title from people that got it, that's just disgusting lol
Valks never had that title on PC, did they ever announce it that it's going to happen on console?
I'd like to add something, at 1:30 where you're talking about his stun + spin you're wrong about one thing. The boss will only follow up with the spin that adds a bleed if the healer fails to cleanse on time. So what you should do is, when you see purple smoke -> iframe in + cleanse and it should cleanse everybody immediately and he wont do a spin. Everything else is pretty spot on
Also lmao @ Jesus at ~8 mins blaming his death on body block when movement skills like glacial retreat/backstep have no body block, he just outranged it :D
Your issue with this skill is so particular and weird I don't think anyone will understand you because it's so damn trivial. You want the skill back to satisfy your ocd..?
Thing is, leveling only takes a few hours nowadays. You'll be 65 before you know it.
I'd switch rmh and rkh personally considering rmh requires good party coordination on last boss and people tend to act like headless chickens on lache when they're learning. But that's just personal opinion.
Everything else is spot on.
The thing for me is, there's no best version of tera. Old versions might've had something new ones don't but they had plenty of flaws and imo certain class balances, changes, apex etc made some classes more/less fun. Tera is always, and has always been a mixed bag of fun and disappointment.
If it was a zerk at the top of the ladders in cs that means he was slaying. Slaying crystal equipped lets you do more damage below 50% health which allows the zerk to protect inners better.
Honestly if you kept doing it even after he asked you were griefing/trolling, be more mindful of such things next time!
We're in the same boat, I can see my own but can't see anyone elses.
> @3KL5N7RWN5 said:
> simple fix for tera: allow mouse clicks on skill bars during combat, no need for 3 "Mains" just add to bar. No longer limited to the number of mouse buttons for skills and don't need 3 hands (and eyes) to find all the keyboard buttons. Keyboard binds can still function as well.

That would be terrible and slow. Also why the necro
spung wrote: »
Regarding KTERA, here's a video uploaded not too long ago...


@CornishRex
Anything involving recreating something that is not suppose to be there is considered exploiting thus classified as cheat.

Considering ghillie is not an instance and its seen as outside world (u can inspect people inside it) one would think uhft should work in there by default so you could argue that the current state of ghillie is bugged xd
Jokes aside there's no need for uhft in ghillie considering its a 5 sec instance anyway hue
metagame wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
and they act like it's a big shock each time it happens.
voidy wrote: »
and EME just stayed silent on the matter
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Players act like theyre shocked, eme stays silent.

@spung i haven't been playing during this uht but last time to get uht in ghillie all you had to do was like go to char selection before the bridge and it would stay on, no unethical cheats involved.
Did you enable the round edge counter in your settings?
I remember him making tons of lfgs for rg a year ago looking exclusively for a mystic lmao
Anyway just report him and hope for a ban, callouts aren't allowed afaik
vkobe wrote: »
so who closed his threads ?

Player council can do that
@skittyruless
But how are they trolling though? Nothing they said in that post is incorrect, we ARE getting a stamina mobage system.
Just because someone has a hint of sarcasm in their post doesn't mean they're a troll, it's still fair criticism. Jesus you people.
https://discord.gg/vK7nWs
Copied from the discord
Arush Constancy > Regular Mighty Attack > Arush Force > Arush Extra-Force | 1 point in Onslaught Velocity

When upgrading your talents pay attention to how many points the higher priority talent needs and how many points it needs before upgrading lower priority talents.
In the future when these start getting very expensive you can consider Shield Counter Fatal Blow , Stand Fast Vengeful Pummel , Stand Fast Speed Skating: Retribution.

For PvP the only ones that seem useful are Pledge of Protection Spirit of Iron , Retaliate Turning Tables , and Rallying Cry Spirit of Iron
While it's true elins are where the money is it doesn't excuse the fact they made the special account bound costume for spending a bunch of $$$ locked to a race. It's a dumb idea.
skarltzane wrote: »
Are the infinity mask coupons bankable/usable on other characters? Or are they soulbound like the masks?

They're soulbound/unbankable
Why would it be a joke? It makes perfect sense and seems absolutely fair. Convert 4 masks you didn't want into one you do want, or lower that amount to 2 if you happen to have a worse mask of the same line as the one you want. Avoiding RNG has a price and this is a perfectly fine one.

Plus, it blocks players from obtaining Infinity Masks without being able to clear the content that actually drops said tier of mask.

It doesn't make any sense imo because the masks are simply too rare. And you can get infinity masks from rng battleground boxes so your argument of "blocking players that aren't able to clear content" is moot. Imagine you already have an onset mask that took you ages to get by dismantling 4 other onset masks (that's my situation rn). Then you start doing aah/glsh/drch and you have to go through two infinity masks to upgrade your onset while most people just get the right infinity mask right away. It's a dumb system, 1 infinity mask should be more than enough.

I would totally agree with you and think it's fair if the masks were less rare, but as they are right now... haha no.
Finally logged on to that char so I got a pic as well
But yeah it's kinda hilarious, bhs big brain
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iLucky wrote: »
After bringing up the issue with EME, there are no plans to change the rewards on their side.

lmao
I think from dismantling two infinity masks lul
SageWindu wrote: »
@CornishRex
So, 2 things:

One, you CAN use the IMS for dungeons like RK9 and, say, SCE because they have a recommended gear score of 439, which can be achieved with base FM, Bellum accs, low gold undies, and a low gold brooch (the same parameters that allow you to do the Apex questline). Relatively easy to achieve these days.

Two, that's why I added that last paragraph that simply confirmed what others had already said, to add extra clarification that the OP's situation is nothing to worry about since specific conditions went unfulfilled.

You must have misread what @LiamDahvis was pointing at and created one big misunderstanding. Liam was saying you can't IMS AA/DRCN/Grotto in frost. Which you can't and that's what I was talking about. We were not talking about rk.
SageWindu wrote: »
LiamDahvis wrote: »
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
LiamDahvis wrote: »
yuxz wrote: »
Is my daily entry consumed if I drop as soon as we enter the dungeon, before starting the first fight? Sometimes I just know we are not gonna make it by checking all party members' gears.

Only that's a really dumb theory because I've seen people in Heroic and Stormcry completely wipe in rk9 lol. Gear's don't matter as long as a player knows what they are doing. So stupid to have the mentality of Good Gear=Good Plays. I saw a ninja in full storm cry barely able to do 600k dps in RK9 where I'm in frost and do 1.5 mil.

Using RK9 as a dungeon example is bad, because RK9 is one of the most garbage and cancer instances the game has. You're better off using Grotto, AA, or DRC for comparison.

Yeah because a person wearing Frost can totally do those DGS. *Eye Roll*

They can. When it first released me and some guildmates cleared it and only 2 of us were above base FM.

It was a bit of a slog and the 2nd boss in particular was kicking us in the junk pretty hard (and it's always the 2nd boss for some reason), but it can be done.

That said, the others are right: so long as the dungeon hasn't been properly "engaged", you can drop and reenter and not lose a run for it. You'll still suffer the Dropout penalty though.

The point is you can't do any of those dungeons in IMS if you have frost so it has nothing to do with what OP was saying.
You won't lose the run.
How do you know you won't make it? Why even ims if you're so picky? Just lfg lmao
You're potentially trapping people to get stuck in queue just because you're assuming things, save yourself (and them) the trouble and just lfg or run with your friends/guild.
@Vulcarion GF has had elleons tokens since 2016, it's just that with the gearing revamp patch they became more worth it
Tfw in 3 full months of playing on EU my main is better geared and I have more well geared alts than I had after playing on NA for 2 years straight (3 and a half with breaks).

Feels weird.
You are talking about yourself. People are different. Just like those who buys loot boxes.

You're right, sometimes I forget idiots exist xd
Players generally skip story quests in dungeons because nobody actually does the story, they just rush through dungeon and that's common practice. Before doing the quest try politely asking someone to stay with you after the dungeon to do it, if they refuse do it on another run or ask a lvl 65 to carry you through the dungeon. Otherwise you're wasting peoples time unwillingly :shrug:
I got one like 4 months ago on my priest. It does exist but the chances are abysmal.
> @BattlePopo said:
> Not a bug, BHS intentionally changed these skills to be affected by attack speed.

That's strange because their animations are still slow, just the projectile fires off faster. For example energy stars and healing immersion fire off so quickly but then I got to wait for the long animation lock to end because it's not synced. So in the end the speed is the same for the user but the boss/players getting hit receive it faster.
> @TJKat said:
> Isn't the cleansing brooch completely obsolete? Can't both healers self-cleans on really short cooldowns right now? It seems like a really odd thing to have re-introduced into the game to me.

Cleansing brooch is super useful for healers even in easy content. It's stupid healers have to go through quickcarve>quatrefoil instead of simple cleansing brooch>superior cleansing >quatrefoil
Bhs just being dumb as usual
metagame wrote: »
how is it their screw up if they had no control over it happening either

they bought [filtered]/cheap servers maybe idk
I don't remember the last time gameforges servers went down like that xd
XTFW5JHP79 wrote: »
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wow this skill deals so much damage like this? and that was at GLSHM

https://moongourd.com/encounter?area=982&boss=2000&log=5be906e75dce1

If you use retribution before it and get hit to bug it and give it the damage multiplier or something. Or so I've heard.
@Jezzeusagi nobody will ever expect dps from a priest lmfao
Even endgame mystics aren't expected to pull high numbers, even tho they can
Pwhoops wrote: »
@CornishRex
Can you go into detail on how to get the double reward?

First when you log on do pit of petrax. Accept the vg, you will get the daily bonus xp. Then do any dungeon from 439 and up (can be a 446, 453 etc). Accept the vg. The bonus will apply for this one as well. The reason for that is because the bonus xp hasn't been "exhausted" by the first vg since it was a small vg that usually doesn't reward a lot of points. I don't know all the logic behind this exactly but it's probably explained here
tisnotme wrote: »
@CornishRex ty it helped me a lot as well

but I would have assumed that it would have reset with the VG counter the way its tied in with that
but who knows , im still working out how to utilize the points ive accrued or whether to just keep accruing them for now

I've also got some other, better way to utilize the first bonus vg. First you do pit of petrax and then a 439+. For some reason the bonus xp applies to both vgs. Tested and it worked, I gained 2 levels while yesterday when I first did a 439+ I only gained one level.
It was only for hard mode abscess
I wish they made that title not shiny already
Michiku wrote: »
> @CornishRex said:
> Why were you FORCED to leave? Nothing in your post points me to that. You could have asked the other party member to kick you, or to disband. You didn't have to leave on your own lol

The other party member could not kick me because no other party members were in the dungeon besides me and him. If you read correctly you would see that I said the group leader was inactive. There was no way to disband anything without the group leaders permission. Trust me I’ve tried it all. And I didn’t leave the dungeon, we ended up beating it after about an hr. Either way your little tip/suggestion isn’t going to fix the fact that Tera’s matchmaking system/group system needs to be reviewed and possibly reworked. Its really inconvenient.

Hmm I think that's an issue on console. On PC I'm pretty sure you can still kick the inactive leader and disband afterwards.
Adding better loot is dumb, making the game p2w is not a good thing imo
Rest of the things are good enough complaints
@CornishRex ty it helped a lot, a last question, does the 1st vg bonus count only to the 1st vg completed of the account? or does it count to the 1st vg of every character?

Sadly, only first vg of the account! And npnp
Soooo
this nerf didn't really happen on EU? What about NA? I noticed bams hp got a lot bigger, but I can still do the bastion one twice without getting any sort of nerf.
This is what I got from theorycrafting discord
EP xp given per vg completion (numbers in () are for after the 16vg cap)
439+ dungeons: 1518 (1215 when vg capped)
431 dungeons: 1418 (1134)
corsair/fwc/3v3: 1518 (1215)
guardians/flying guardians: 500
412 dungeons: 1267 (1012)
iod (all 3 tiers are the same): 911 (729)
kumas/iron battlegrounds: 843
kill 30 ___ quests: 270
gather 30 ____ quests: 180
ace dungeons: 303
echoes of aranea: 911
pit of petrax: 455
celestial arena: 425

First vg of the day gives you a big bonus so make sure you complete a good vg first (example: grotto normal). Then the more vg's you do the less points you get I suppose. Abscess spam or low tier iod spam are the most efficient ways of farming talents.
Nopi wrote: »
As for the multi month packs. I really don't remember anything of such a thing, and I played Tera when it launched as a p2p game. I DO remember, as I said, when they dropped the monthly fee to 9.99 for a limited time, and promised to keep that price to anyone keeping elite active for as long as they did. Still, regardless of they having done it before or not, I'd say they should do it again, as older games should try to be more appealing, and a price drop is usually one of the best appeals an old game can make.

For reference, IGN still has a wiki page that shows the price tiers at launch:

https://www.ign.com/wikis/tera/Pricing

I was on one of those multi-month plans back in the day. Maybe they could bring something like that back.


And yeah, it'd be a problem if people used 1-day elite vouchers to get a costume each month, as it'd totally crater the value of the prize. They'd have to do some method to check subscription days.

just add the token to daily elite box, problem fixed
> @E7N7CN7GCG said:
> SageWindu wrote: »
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> Nah they are right... I play maybe a few hours and get more than enough talents for what I need.

What gear are you and what content do you do?
It's a plain lie to say you get enough (without buying it with gold on the broker) if you're in ho.
I'd like to hear your methods and don't worry I'm not your competition, I play on eu with my comfortable 10K golden talents while just doing dungeons :smiley:
DL7MMWLJ3W wrote: »
Not necessary to do that anyways.

More importantly, having that change could break or exploit something in the game cause there's a huge reputation for that. So best to just leave it alone...

iirc ktera has no countdown upon channel switching
someone correct me if I'm wrong though
DHEE5KW5FP wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
@DHEE5KW5FP
How is anything in those videos related to botting?

Are you really not cable of watching them. I feel it's absolutely pointless to keep discussing bots and hacks ( Even when video titles straight up say Tera Bot...I mean It's kind of fcking obvious at that point)

You can literally hand a player a red pen and say " This is red" and that person will sit there and argue that it's blue. Absolutely pointless.

Do correct me if I'm wrong, but botting is supposed to be automated gameplay, no? None of these videos show the player making an advanced bot that does whole rotations and iframes perfectly and reacts to boss mechanics (which I've been told is possible in tera but very hard to do), instead they show one shot stuff and stuff like that. So you did show 0 proof to what the guy was asking of you.

I've also gotta say, the only "obvious" bots I've seen so far were in tuwangi mire, and those bots were extremely simplistic. Also some bot in stepstone isle that was continuously pressing gunner basic attack to farm gold.
@DHEE5KW5FP
How is anything in those videos related to botting?
Most important perks are double dungeon entries, and no broker fees. If you dungeon a lot and want to speed up the whole gearing/gathering xp process, elite helps.
Michiku wrote: »

I don’t think its fair that because people want to be inactive but queue up for dungeons, I should be FORCED to leave and be penalized for it.

I have always been a solo player, and always did the level dungeons solo. I just recently started trying out the level dungeons with groups, because of the tank leveling events. I have never had to deal with what you are talking about. When you say you were "penalized", do you just mean you were penalized because you did not get to finish the dungeon you were trying to do, or are there actual in-game penalties if you quit from an active dungeon? If so, what are the penalties? I am just asking, in case I decide to try some of the high level group dungeons, later. I honestly have no clue about doing dungeons with a group, so I am asking.

If you're running a dungeon and you decide to /leave or /drop you will get a 15 minute debuff that prevents you from queueing anything, it only ticks while you're online. In case some emergency happens and you want to leave you can always ask the group to kick you, and in case something bad happens and the whole party goes offline you can just disband which won't give you the debuff.
How exactly does nerfing attack speed affect tuwangi bots? Don't all they have to do is walk?

This is obviously meant to just [filtered] over legit players lmao
As if bots can't go blue guardian -> green guardian -> blue guardian anyway.
Why were you FORCED to leave? Nothing in your post points me to that. You could have asked the other party member to kick you, or to disband. You didn't have to leave on your own lol
SageWindu wrote: »
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
Valkyrie is a class that never should have been created. I prefer female castanics, but I didn't bother making one because its a trash, brain-dead, and OP class. I main gunner and agree that it should be open to every other race and gender too. They should just focus on doing that from now on if they persist in making classes.

This is besides the point, but can you please clarify on how something can be trash, brain-dead, and overpowered all at the same time?

While I do agree with their points I find it even funnier how they said all about that about valk, and then proceeded to say they main gunner, which was in the same spot at release as valk was, op and brain dead :joy:
I'm coming from PC so sadly I can't help you with button mapping but I'll single out the most important mystic skills for PvE. The ones I don't mention are essentially useless for PvE.

Mystics are healers. Meaning in a 5 man party your job is to heal, cleanse, buff party members and debuff the boss. You're not supposed to dps (but you can do it if everything is on cd and you have nothing to do).

Arun's Vitae - Your health mote, you glyph them and use them as your self heal. Don't expect party members to depend on them, only when you're unable to heal them due to a mech or you're resurrecting the tank or something.

Arun's Tears - Your mana mote, not that needed on console right now. It restores mana to the person that picks it up

Aura of the Merciless - Your damage aura, gives a buff to everyone in the party. Make sure it's on at all times. Automatically turns off if you run of mana or die.

Aura of the Tenacious - Your mana aura, passively restores mana to everyone.

Thrall of Protection - Once you glyph it, use it to apply an endurance buff for all of your members at the start of the fight. Use it when someone gets resurrected.

Thrall of Life - Heals and cleanses. Not super reliable but it's helpful.

Thrall of Vengeance - Use it for solo dps, when you're doing ghillieglade or killing bams alone etc

Thrall of Wrath - Big damage thrall

Contagion - Endurance debuff with a high cd. Only use it during enrage.

Volley of Curses - Endurance debuff with a low cd. Glyph it to apply the debuff and spam it on the boss. Uptime should be as close to 100% as possible.

Teleport Jaunt - Your only i-frame. Use it to avoid attacks

Corruption Ring X - A VERY important skill. Use it to restore mana to yourself and mainly other members, especially tanks, sorcerers, warriors.

Titanic Favor IX - Lock-on heal, use it to heal people

Boomerang Pulse - Another heal skill

Warding Totem II A healing skill that heals passively once you use it, also applies a small shield

Arun’s Cleansing Touch - Important skill. Your cleanse. Once you use it it cleanses both you and the person you locked on.

Resurrect - Obvious.

Vow of Rebirth - Your self resurrect. Use it before the fight starts. Use it on the tank and whoever else you wish.

Regression II - Your dispel, rarely used skill but absolutely necessary for certain mechanic.

@P9ENREJL9A @metagame
Well well well, would you look at that. https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/29777/focused-updates-on-tera-fuot-1
After the announcement, we took the additional steps of reviewing previous account bans related to Proxy use and reactivated accounts that (as best we could determine from our records and data) fell inside the bounds of our current enforcement policy. This felt like a fair act we could do for our community in good faith.
I would've pm'd you both but it seems both of you ignored me :joy:
@Nopi
The dress in the promo is the costume that came with the huge angel/devil wings
Step up your costume game!
Did you list them for 880 gold? In that case that's how much you will earn. The tax people pay when you're offline is a gold sink.
@P9ENREJL9A
What a lair and a troll.
You claimed all of these things without proof btw.
I'm enjoying others btfoing you though =)
Nopi wrote: »
I suppose that little dress will replace the "battle togs" human brawlers use? I would have preferred even the slightest attempt at armor, but w/e...

That dress is a costume we got a few months ago though? Not sure if they'll make new armor for elin brawlers but already existing plate armor for elins is :ok_hand:
Nopi wrote: »
I don't find it far fetched that a company who messed up (but won't ever publicly acknowledge it because of business) resorts to unbanning people they banned through said mess up.

As for lair.... would it be... lair of lies? That would make someone even more of a liar. Such a liar that he's a lair full of lies!

....ok, I'll stop being stupid now.

me rn latest?cb=20111115213711
Pwhoops wrote: »
Because as it is right now there’s a lack of players that are able to clear mainly because no one wants to bother to train them, but like I said, many people would be opposed to not showing the amount of clears.

I usually help people in learning runs but imo, best place to learn is in a guild with a nice and friendly environment. I love carrying IMS traps but the best experience you'll get is in a guild where you can ask questions and get to do guild runs. It's also important to be able to help yourself and not expect others to carry you. "People don't want to help me" attitude can really get on my nerves sometimes, and I'm one of the people that will take the time to explain things etc.

And if there's such a big lack of players clearing hard modes because nobody is training them, why do those rookies not group up among themselves and clear on their own? All groups were full rookie at some point you know.
Pwhoops wrote: »
Or just hide amount of clears I guess? But a lot of people would be against that..

Why though? Then people that want to farm relatively fast and smooth runs would close to their small circles even more and only stick to running with people they know are skilled.
There will still exist the issue of not being able to get into hard mode runs once you've completed easy and normal.
For example I got skilled in grotto normal mode and I try to apply to a hard mode lfg. People will be wary of accepting someone with 0 clears in hm because I haven't done it before. Best thing would be a training of hard mode being introduced in some way or form. An easy mode that hits less and lacks the mechanics or bosses have less hp doesn't cut it, imo.
Well rip. Usually when i had that problem it would go away on its own after a bit at least.
Usually people have this issue when somethings wrong on their end, try doing a traceroute to diag.enmasse.com
You should never leave out to rez, even if the healer isn't rezing you. Stay there to get the loot and in the best case maybe the healer was holding out rez because they were busy healing the rest of the party or a mechanic was happening who knows.
Nobody rewarded champs on pc
I am a new player, and what I want is to be able to dress my character the way I want, grab a weapon skin, get the ride, and then get plenty of storage. I have tried blade and soul, and revelation. The games might be good, but when you can not customize you character the way you want until almost end game, what is the point? Since I just started this game, I must say I do not even know how the store works. The one in game I am unable to get an outfit. The web store only has outfits I am not interested in. I also do not get why you do not have a gold exchange, or if you do I can not find it. The auction gold prices for me seem it would take years to make 150.000 gold for one outfit. Considering I been killing everything for two days and have about 3 gold, I do not see this game keeping my interest for too long.

1-65 is a tutorial. 65 is when the game starts.
metagame wrote: »
do it

https://i.imgur.com/CEcQSp6.png
https://i.imgur.com/neB3cPx.png
This is as far as I can go with the old screenshots I have of my friends ban that I pulled from discord, I'm censoring a lot because there's talk of our guild and stuff which I don't feel comfy with sharing on a public forum

Believe what you want but stop busting my [filtered] over this, we derailed this thread too hard and this has gone too far lmao
metagame wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
but you are aware I won't bother with making lines of the same length in paint right?
nah, it makes a very big difference. i could take the same 2nd image, extend the part you blocked off and suddenly claim that it's an entirely different person's ticket. but now that you brought up inspect element, nothing here's valid yet again.

include the responses to the ticket

oh my god im dying
sorry my a.utism dries up here
metagame wrote: »
i don't think it proves a thing because you already pulled that first unban image from somewhere else, what's to say you didn't pull these two new ones out of nowhere too?

the two parts on each image where you blocked out what i assume is the account name ("action on the XXXX En Masse account" and "Hello XXXX") don't quite match up in terms of length. on top of that, i went and looked at a few of my own support tickets, and none of their responses ever included a name in the first line, it was always something along the lines of "hi there", or "greetings". i will admit that i've never had to send in a ticket to appeal a ban, but if the system messages are as automated as you claim i doubt there'd be any difference there.

I know you're memeing me at this point, but you are aware I won't bother with making lines of the same length in paint right? I edited the pics just for you!

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Also here's my random unrelated support ticket by the same gm, saying hello [my name]

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I bet he'd still say that's not proof lol.
There is no point trying to convince a brick wall.

I mean yeah, I don't know why I bothered. There's never enough proof. If I posted a screenshot of them ingame they'd probably say it was an old screenshot. Once I post the same copy paste gm message with a different date someone would say "inspect element xd". The fact that everyones talking about being unbanned (after being perma banned) is not enough for these people just seems to me like they're in denial. It's like talking to a holocaust denier :shrug:

Edit: speaking of the devil LOOL
metagame wrote: »
how does this
CornishRex wrote: »
prove this
CornishRex wrote: »
Back in February my friends tried to appeal and they were told they were perma banned forever, no matter what, no appeals.
[...]
all of them got unbanned.

what's also funny is that i've seen multiple people post that very picture, right down to the exact same time stamp. i'm no expert at eme's support ticket stuff, but i'd imagine they go through each one individually to give a response to them. handing out the same response (several times, as you claim) could not be done in the course of a minute, even if it were copy pasted.

As I said, this is a friends ban information and I don't want to get their name out so again this can be seen as no proof and yall people in denial can jump on me about this so whatever. They were one of the people unbanned with that same exact copy paste message. Maybe I'll ask them to give me an ss of that message and I'll update this post once I get it. This is the proof of them being perma banned.

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https://i.imgur.com/fETlYaJ.png :thinking:
P9ENREJL9A wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
P9ENREJL9A wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
@P9ENREJL9A here you go, a big proxy dev that got banned last year during summer I think??

https://i.imgur.com/i0cIeQSh.jpg

As pinkie said, all the emails received for the unban message had the same wording. I know more people but I won't be getting their names out there just for the sake of proof since they haven't announced it publicly like pinkie did.

LoL, that doesn't prove anything.

I asked for proof not for a random discord chat, that doesn't prove anything, it only makes you more of a lair.

How do I prove it then? Go ask them yourself maybe. I have pictures of my banned guildmembers but as I said, I won't be getting that out there for privacy reasons.

If you are not going to prove it then you can't make such claims. I will stick with your image as a lair.

Thank you, I will no longer lose more time with you and your moot points.

Okay lmao
P9ENREJL9A wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
@P9ENREJL9A here you go, a big proxy dev that got banned last year during summer I think??

https://i.imgur.com/i0cIeQSh.jpg

As pinkie said, all the emails received for the unban message had the same wording. I know more people but I won't be getting their names out there just for the sake of proof since they haven't announced it publicly like pinkie did.

LoL, that doesn't prove anything.

I asked for proof not for a random discord chat, that doesn't prove anything, it only makes you more of a lair.

How do I prove it then? Go ask them yourself maybe. I have pictures of my banned guildmembers but as I said, I won't be getting that out there for privacy reasons.
@P9ENREJL9A here you go, a big proxy dev that got banned last year during summer I think??

https://i.imgur.com/i0cIeQSh.jpg

As pinkie said, all the emails received for the unban message had the same wording. I know more people but I won't be getting their names out there just for the sake of proof since they haven't announced it publicly like pinkie did.
@TheCatalyst
Yes they said they reviewed their banning policy. Back in February my friends tried to appeal and they were told they were perma banned forever, no matter what, no appeals. And since they can't differentiate between people that just used sp and were reported by a backstabbing guildmate, or people that memeslashed vergos 200 times, all of them got unbanned. @tisnotme yes that's true. People that got banned all the way back in last year got unbanned. Proxy devs, exploiters, sp users, all of them got unbanned.

And of course people will come back I don't get your point. It's like a beaten housewife getting back to her husband. Some people still have hope. I've lost mine a long time ago. And if you're wondering why I'm still lingering on the forums, it's because holy crap gameforge forum format is weird as hell and I can't get behind it.
CornishRex wrote: »
They are backpeddaling. First they DMCA proxy, people leave and suddenly they do a 180 when they realize how much proxy and sp have helped keep their own game alive, because they didn't have the brains to fix the game themselves when the community begged. Then they unban people. Mind you, they unbanned memeslashers that have hundreds of millions of illegitimately farmed gold because they're THAT desperate.

They were (temp) banned, they were warned...
As much as i enjoy popcorn as the next guy...

But of course.. People totally left during those dramas, exodus, ban waves, whatever u wanted to call it.. In fact, nobody leveled up several new characters during that time, spam dungeons and kuma royales up to lvl65, and SC-ed all of their alt's gears during the enchant event. All of the servers are completely empty and ded... No one 'apex-ed part 2' their characters.. Everyone uninstall.. Even worse, nobody even bought those lustrous federation crates... All those in-game notification was nothing more but illusion.. Hollywood CGI and all that... And of course.. nobody cried.. at all.
:rolleyes:

They were not temp banned. I know 2 good friends that got PERMA banned back in february (and before) and they got unbanned this week. Stop spreading misinformation.

And yes people have left NA. My whole guild moved to EU including me, not counting other guilds I've ran into in the server and ims that I used to see on NA. Hell, I got recognized on EU by multiple people that used to play with me on NA. And those people are already in +8 sc and up, including me.

That doesn't make NA completely dead of course. But eme's stupidity had an impact for once, thank god.
Nyanta1177 wrote: »
Explains why they unbanned a large wave of proxy users recently and are trying to back peddle their previous [filtered] claims against it along with their false dmca

Explain?
They already stated in the response tickets to those who afflicted, that they are taking lenient action in term of enforcement, for the time being. But these programs are still against their Terms of Service. They are not back-paddling. They're moving forward. The DMCA takedowns have serve its purpose. The script makers have left (hopefully for good) and claimed they will be not providing update for NA version of those scripts.

They are backpeddaling. First they DMCA proxy, people leave and suddenly they do a 180 when they realize how much proxy and sp have helped keep their own game alive, because they didn't have the brains to fix the game themselves when the community begged. Then they unban people. Mind you, they unbanned memeslashers that have hundreds of millions of illegitimately farmed gold because they're THAT desperate.
DEJHJ3ALJA wrote: »
So I see, you gave only for those with rank 1 in previous season PvP BG’s some rewards. Such as my friend got a title and a diamond for being first on Fraywind. And nothing for champions(

what??? this has nothing to do with laurels
@Maleficent94 I agree grind isn't so casual and easy anymore. But it certainly isn't the grind from twist to +0 sc. Maybe I'm just incredibly lucky but I never had troubles (across 10 characters or so) in reaching +0 sc in a relatively short timeframe. HO and on is another story.
And EU is another story as well, where it's actually "easy" (if you can handle the fails) to achieve ho if you play normally...

@Nopi
The game just stopped catering to strictly solo players (even though players that do group stuff are still forced to farm solo content on na...) since you can't gear without xp. Still, you can solo farm iod for golden talents, and sell a portion of them to buy enchanting boxes and then get to ilvl 439 without much xp. 439 and on it might be impossible to solo, imo.
Nopi wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
Nopi wrote: »
SC is still not easy to get unless you pay for it.

Excuse me? You don't need to pay to get sc.
SC is easy to achieve. Somewhere around +6 it becomes hard but manageable. On EU, even high end sc and HO is manageable with a normal life and playtime but that would take 2-3 months starting from scratch.

This is where different people perceptions of things come into play. SC 0 is easy to get for every try hard and pro player out there. That's a given. I'm not any of those kinds of players. As I've said countless times, I'm a bad casual. So to me, even FM takes much longer to get than what your try hard usually takes. My comparison comes from my experience with past gear sets and the current.

Again, this is not true. I see the biggest noobs and casual players in +7 sc. Sc +0 is really, really not hard to achieve. I know mega casual players that only log on once or twice a week to play a bit with their guildies. It's almost the same as your usual mid tier gear during VM days, except on NA farming focus is shifted on grinding iod for golden talents. I know about points of view, different people etc, but sc +0 is really not something that's only for tryhards.

As you said, now you have to do dungeons for mats and xp but that doesn't make the gear any less casual to get, it's just that the process takes a bit longer. It's still not painful, just like mid tier gear during vm days was not painful to obtain. The process used to be shorter but other than that it's pretty much the same thing, just spread out so it makes you play more.
Nopi wrote: »
SC is still not easy to get unless you pay for it.

Excuse me? You don't need to pay to get sc.
SC is easy to achieve. Somewhere around +6 it becomes hard but manageable. On EU, even high end sc and HO is manageable with a normal life and playtime but that would take 2-3 months starting from scratch.
That's how it worked ever since gameforge launched on steam. That's how it should work.
@tisnotme
Scarves didn't have crit you silly, they had hp. And people protested it so hard eme decided to take them out.
> @Ourlord said:
> What if i dont have steam??....

You have to so they can increase steam numbers :))
EU did a maint to fix this and they also reset the leaderboard for glsh
I bring some interesting news from korea, they've made a training dummy room with a built in (albeit not so functional) dps meter. There's a lot to improve still but I think they're heading the right way with this.
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
CornishRex, the fact that one Emerald costs 1440g and one Diamond costs 14250g while golden talents sell at 10g each proves something that i kept saying until now and that is "you get more talents at less value but you have to pay so much more for gems to be able to enchant/upgrade". And for the sake of comparison.. one Emerald costs 1150g at North America and one Diamond costs 11.500 gold.

But that's good. That's a sign of a healthy economy. Because you don't lose out gold on crafting costs and pp.
how do you guys get your silver talents?
Elite get like 10 daily and usually leveling events give a 100 of them or something, the rest is the same as EU, bg boxes mostly. I think their cost is currently 70~ish gold per silver talent.

As for bg's, EU has normal boxes on top of extra boxes you receive per win that can reward diamonds and other stuff as well so I'd say both regions are the same when it comes to battlegrounds.
XHGJW4LMY6 wrote: »
KitTeaCup wrote: »
What does everyone think is the best way to avoid this sort of situation?

I hate to say this but make the game easier. This could be accomplished through a combination of reducing boss damage and making gearing easier.

Reducing boss damage is dumb. They did that on tera console and it's not working out for them, is it now?
Training dungeons and other suggestions are a much better idea. Biggest problem is not damage, rather it's getting used to mechanics and certain unavoidable attacks, so if we were able to practice that beforehand it would be a lot of help.
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
What about removing the superficial talk and actually give me some data? Like how did you get a priest and warrior at Europe and how much did it take to gear them up to make them relevant for farming? Did it took up to one week only for that out of the entire month that you talked about leaving you with other three weeks? Then do you have any other characters or those are the only two that you used? And what did you run when you had your characters ready for farming? Actually, what is the time played overall that helped you to acquire +8SC weapon and +4SC Chest/Gloves/Boots on your warrior? I am only guessing but since you have said that you have ran so many dungeons per day both as solo and party and you did this and that needing up to 130k item experience for the weapon then i can consider that you have at least 150hrs up to 200hrs played during that one month that it took you to acquire the items that you have listed.

Like two thirds faster.

How many hours do you think that someone experienced and dedicated as you can get the same gear at North America with the same hours invested?

Superficial talk? I've given you a timeline. 3 months of hardcore playing on NA with all the possible benefits etc vs 1 month (uh sorry, 1 month and one week :joy:) of hardcore playing on EU with no mats advantage etc resulted in me being better geared on EU.

When I came back to EU back in september I already had a 65 priest and warrior back from 2016. Of course they started from guardian since their previous gear was obsolete. That was like a 2-3 day head-start considering that's how long it takes to level a character.
Gearing up to twist/frost honestly feels like it took the longest but it probably didn't, probably around a week. I only had those two characters at the time (now I have a mystic and gunner which are currently just ghillie bots).

Here's my dungeon runs on both characters. I won't include my playtime since it's inaccurate, considering I've been playing in 2016 for a few months and I don't remember what it was at when I came back. What's missing is 70 runs off ssn and around 15 runs of ssh in total.
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Now as for item xp, over the course I've been playing eu did events where guardians would give you extra xp and 300 golden talents once you finished all 40 for around total of 6 days, and they did a bonus xp event from dungeons as well which helped me a lot. They also hand out 20% xp boosts and 10% xp boosts pretty often so I've had a lot of help there as well.

Accurate playtime would be around there seeing as I play tera a lot daily.
First I'd like to say it's exactly what @allofspaceandtime said. To me it's not just about EU tera being miles better when it comes to gearing (which I'll get to in a moment for all of you money freaks), it's about EME treating us like trash and straight up making fools out of us while showing how little they understand about the game. They have a serious lack of respect and expect us to still play their [filtered] region. Nu-uh.

@HLK76PFWXT
The players at Europe or whoever went there are enchanted by the fact that if they get more golden talents which suprisingly have less value then enchanting/upgrading overall must be faster but then of course that it is faster and easier when you rush up to +0SC with 100% enchant chance up to +0FM and then 50% enchant chance up to +0SC with the talents covering most of the expenses but then the same players might notice that gearing from +0SC up to +7SC and beyond is a different experience..
Ah yes, you conveniently ignore me telling you I geared up to +8 sc in a month in another thread and you come here and lie to people saying that going to +7 is a different experience. Lmao.

Making money on eu is easy, if not easier than on NA because you don't have to give up so much of your own progress in order to make money. Here are daric/plate prices, they're still high enough to get very good profit from crafting them. Gems are also at a decent price, I sell my emeralds at 1440 per and diamonds easily sell at 14250 from what I've seen as well.
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Buying sc is also a viable option, plenty of people sell +7 sc and from when I started playing I would've made enough money to buy a weapon and like gloves. Although I'd recommend this option of gearing not to newbies but to people that want to skip progress on an alt. I constantly see WTS/WTB +7/8/9 whatever in trade and lfg so idk which [filtered] you're pulling this info from.

Literally the only EU negative (bank and char slots) is solved by a founders pack, everything else is miles ahead from NA. I feel like you're just rationalizing EME's bad menagement not to me, but to yourself by typing these posts because personally I've experienced BOTH regions unlike you. And I know which region is superior. And I was a tier 7 player with hundreds of costumes and good gear. But I couldn't stand EME anymore and I found a much better home. Of course I think it helps that I'm actually european and have better ping there.
Nopi wrote: »
Question to those playing on EU. With the claimed super fast gearing, won't you feel you would be done with the current patch way too quickly? As in, you get to that stage of the game where there's "nothing else to do" much earlier, and then you either stop playing or linger in the hubs until the next patch hits.

Sure. NA is much slower right now and could use a bump. But there also needs to be a balance to keep people playing through patches.

Not really. Gearing is still slow compared to the old +15 days. It took me a month to reach ilvl 453, but it will probably take me another month to reach ilvl 455 for the newest content. New player that doesn't know how to distribute their time well will probably take longer than me to get there. Then there's also alts to gear. Titles to get. Gear to min max completely after hitting 455 (what like, ilvl 459 is max rn?). It takes a month just to unlock most dungeons. Before it took less than a week to get mid tier gear and unlock all dungeons. So no, I won't get bored fast. Even EU is too slow lol.
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