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Posts by CornishRex
ElinLove wrote: »
to be fair there's pretty much nothing you can do against it, if it spawns in 2 places (heck let's say spawns in 5) you can just create alt accounts and leave the plugin running on all, one on each location can't you?

I also would bet on the approach of making it more interesting for a bigger amount of people to do it together than one soloing the boss just cause he wants. Totally discouraging soloing makes no sense since some times of the day there just isn't enough people to do it together, but making it way better to do with MORE people could be a way to counter it and engage players into group PVE at the same time.

Also one important thing that I think should be changed at the core of the game (which means utopia) is reworking entirely the KS/group thing like I said above. I mean why can't people just jump in and help?

Well, never thought about that I must say. That's one way of going around it lmao.

Oh god I know you say soloing during certain times is unavoidable but I [filtered] you not I made an lfg for a wboss a few days ago at the DEADEST time and I got 10 people apply on me the moment I put the lfg up so I don't think there would ever be trouble with getting a party for a big wboss that drops tons of decent loot.

Also yes, jumping in and joining OR to get a cheevo without having to reset the damn thing would be great.
ElinLove wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Low tier bam is winning this match.

2 minutes to kill 10 of them vs the time you can spent on a 3v3...

hang on 12 seconds on each including moving to next? What gear/class you do this? Full consumables on too?
Never bothered with them other than waiting between BG/dungeon queues so never put much/any effort to know

Twistshard brawler can average ten in 2.5 minutes (assuming no a-holes show up and camp on you.) I imagine a valk/archer/war can do 2 minutes easily.

Can confirm this, it never took me more than 40 mins to finish 16 iod on a twist brawler. Since then I got stormcry on her.. should try it again lol.
34HK6EK43Y wrote: »
some people say .. third party dont work . https://imgur.com/a/IdWs9

It works, but the moment you get the message the bam already is loaded into your client which means you can see it on the map for yourself. If the bam is too far away and it still spawned in it's other spawn place you won't get the message.
Use that pic as an example, yunaras has two spawn points, if you're standing and afking in one spawn point waiting for the message and he spawns in the other place you won't get the notification and you just wasted some time afking.
There's no mod that will predict spawn timers for you and do things for you :shrug:
You have to go through that yourself!

Also some people really are sour in this thread =)
> @MorganPhoenix said:
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> I still have over 1k dragon fireworks on av. maybe someday I will sell them
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> Oh for Pete's sake! :angry: These kind of unanticipated random changes to items years after they've been released/discontinued is one of the reasons I've largely stopped playing Tera. I gave all my dragon fireworks to my friend to store over New Years on the assumption I'd be getting half of them back. Now I've lost them forever. Thanks for that eme... I really appreciate it when you slap long time players.

Yup, no announcements, nothing.
Eme patch notes are simply lacking, I didn't even know you could make swiftly hardy dyads until recently when I randomly fused some BECAUSE NOTHING WAS SAID IN THE PATCH NOTES REE
Not to mention some bigger things aren't there either, like the buff to vergos that happened a while ago.
Calm down your paranoia, this is disturbing to read
@CornishRex ok. Something else? Youre just like typical elitist not ok with possibility that someone else may have their laurel easier that you if wbams would be removed. And im ok with this.

p.s. In the middle age galleys use peoples force to move ship. Does it mean we should refuse technologies because before was another way? The point is that people who dont give a damn about wboss stuff have to put effort way too bigger in compare of what it gives. And you smart-@ss answers wont change my opinion that its unfair in a way.
Youre free now.

How is it possible to miss my point twice in a row, I guess I'm just really bad at explaining myself or something.

Anyway I wasn't one of the determined people that got their laurels that way so your first insult holds no ground against me.
I'm not even saying we should get back to that system, in fact I just said I vastly preferred this current system over the last one and I think it's more fair and less grindy. I'm just saying there's no need to further casualize it because I don't want literally everything in this game to become a joke.

I'd prefer if world bosses were much stronger and their drops got better as more people participated in the fight, it would be easier to get achievements and to get nice loot but who am I kidding that will never happen. The only thing they can do is nerf things into the ground and make everything much easier and much less fun.
Pls don't bark back at me with another "sweety, dear, honey" post :cold_sweat:
Sweet i have already champion laurel.
5 k bosses took for me 3 days if you was talking about that.
so yes tell me more about work dear.

but last month i constantly hear complain from ppl who stalking them. It was easier to find in december for sure.

btw. If someone already killing him and invites you then you dont get an ach. Get it? You have to find it and start kill to have an ach.

p.s. Dont think that all ppl thinking only of themself. And thanks god the fact that i got champion didnt change my habit to help others without toxic answer.

Lol wot. I wasn't talking about named mobs, I was talking about how world bosses used to work.
Ye I know, I kindly ask them to reset and they do it. I got some cheevos on mystic this way.
So yes... to wait one month to have chance to do Imperfect crystals is a veeeery long time. The permaccb should have been removed becasue of that 10 points of achs.
Now many people struggle to do Rule Arun and Rule Shara (together btw more than 100 ach points) and cant do it for months(!) because its impossible to find any rare. And it ok for everyone who thought ccb is a trouble.

srsly i dont get how this system works.

Just walk around and you'll eventually run into the world bosses, or ask for help when you see someone killing them. More often than not they will be kind enough to help you.
Also why the heck are you complaining about world bosses -now- when you used to have to kill literally 100 of each for one single achievement and it took AGES to finish those. Not just that but the spawn timers were bigger and each server had its group of people constantly going around spawn places and checking. Even rare mobs were hard to find and kill, I always had to snatch them after maint. Nowadays I can go into frymount and kill all 3 of them at once since they will most likely be up.
Seriously these are such silly complaints, working a bit to get a shiny laurel is not the end of the world lmao. Besides, you can get diamond very easily without lvl 68 world bams. Champion would be harder but still possible if you could get at least a few of them.
While leveling any class will be mana starved
Endgame you shouldn't have that problem, especially with a prime battle solution.
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
I did plenty of runs myself and did not get a single smart dyad.

As expected.. i need to run at least 20-30times the same dungeon only to roll on a smart dyad which is not even something special to begin with.. its just an item that helps and its nice to have but definitely not worth to put so much effort for a chance to roll on it.. Especially when you see that on other regions they give x5 smart dyads through RNG boxes that are tradeable and sold at the broker for 20k up to 30k...

I did 8 runs yesterday, got 2 smart dyads.
When smart dyads drop they drop for everyone in the party. I don't think you have to roll for it.
papy10k wrote: »
to be honest i did not know people exploited this event by teleporting and [filtered], sad. no wonder why the game is lacking content.

Teleport exploits should've been fixed though. It's detectable by the server now because the client now needs servers response to teleport you for long distances now, unlike before. Which makes this detectable.
Coupled with the way the boxes spawn which was changed as well most of the box related exploits have been fixed. People used to be able to go under maps through mountains and stuff and get the boxes that spawned underground, however boxes now despawn after a certain amount of time and because of that they won't be plentiful under terrain.
I say most exploits because I'm not aware if any other existed at all. And if they did, they're not widespread enough in the community for it to be harmful.
I really like the box event because all levels can participate in it and it's really fun and relaxing to do while waiting for queue/inbetween daily boring grind. Saying we can't have it anymore because of exploits is silly because literally everything in this game can be exploited, should we remove dungeons too? Because of memeslash? Just ridiculous.
MsKelevra wrote: »
@CornishRex No you wouldn't be able to see the exact amount, only that you got the achievment and at what point in time :)

Thanks a bunch, was wondering if it could be a viable way of comparing runs lol
ElinUsagi wrote: »
You don't see the "amount of times" another has cleared a dungeon with the in-game commands, you had to use unnoficial means to do that.

Which unofficial means? Moongourd isn't exactly the best for that because it doesn't always log things perfectly. My 100+ vsh runs weren't completely logged. Or sometimes people don't upload runs etc.
Also could you maybe see the amount of runs from inspecting the person and comparing achievements? Would the 77 runs cheevo show the amount? I'm wondering since I've never tried it.
TheDarkWan wrote: »
That dungeon needs to be reworked, the machines count too much on all party knowing what to do. This is a lower dungeon and does not need to be that difficult. I suggest they bring back Channel works until ravenous gouge is finally ready to be released.

God forbid new players have to use some brain. Because looking at the buff flowers give you when you break them is hard. Because seeing secondary aggro on yourself during second boss is hard. Following what the text on screen says is VERY hard.
For the love of anything that's sacred PLEASE don't bring back channelworks. RG is fine as is, not only does it teach you some basics about mechanics, it's also completely possible to be soloed by a more skilled players that's carrying the party. And even if you screw up in rg it's not like you will wipe or take forever to clear, it's a cute dungeon for new players.
Unlike channelworks. Seriously [filtered] that boring gray [filtered] dungeon I've had enough of it.
> @papy10k said:
> if you keep putting pressure on the topic the might remove gvg system. you know how eme works, if its broken they remove it, instead of fixing it.

I can actually totally see that happening.
Due to a bug we decided it would be best to remove the GvG system all together! We are planning to make a new and improved version sometime in the future (aka never).
Cue in someone telling you we won't have those events anymore because of exploits that have been fixed.
waiting
The amount of packets you can send has been limited so memeslash isn't as effective as before, plus it became more detectable afaik.
Not saying you can't oneshot in pvp, which you still can.

Also technically speaking only valks and priests could memeslash. And old sorc voidpulse.
AnnieClark wrote: »
First off to the OP, I must say well done for being so mature about the situation and not being like most and just be nasty to him.

Though I'm curious as to how you know so much about your damage and that of others in party without the use of a DPS meter?
Nothing against people using DPS meters, for personal use I can see it being a very beneficial tool though not something I'd ever use myself.
But if I see anyone in party referring to it in even the slightest negative way that makes someone else feel bad I will snapshot and report them for harrassment.

Wow thanks for proving my paranoia. You're the reason I started kicking people from rk9 IMS without saying anything to them.
People should know when their dps is really bad, but later on. Because it matters.
Like you said, I don't see the point at screaming angrily at players who don't have the basic gear/glyphs. I do see a point in saying that a +2 stormcry archer in all the right setups is doing 400 k/s on rk9 (or just say it in the sense of "sorry archer but your dps isn't cutting it).
Also, there are ways of telling when a person is doing bad dps. Running around the boss aimlessly, having long stops between their rotations, attacking from the sides (ooooh I see this one in rk9 so often because it's real hard to dash away during s-bomb), using basic attacks or generally skills that aren't supposed to be used in an optimal rotation (sorcs and archers using basics, brawlers using meat grinder). All of those are very apparent to me as a healer.
And unfortunately, you can't suddenly teach a person how to play their class on the last boss of a harder dungeon. So what the hell do I tell them before kicking them that doesn't warrant me a ban? :shrug:
CornishRex wrote: »
People still have leftover megaphones in their invs from back when you used to be able to obtain them. The feature itself isn't disabled.

That is not what they said when chat was disabled, and it is not what spacecats said just the other day:
Spacecats wrote: »
btw this is the same reason we never allow players to use the megaphone.

I had a friend use it to test it right after they "fixed" the exploit, it worked lol
But I think they mostly focused on fixing the HTML exploit, not the megaphone itself.
Well... this happened on 1/9/18, Tuesday:



https://imgur.com/a/xIqDS



They said they disabled that feature... so I guess they lied about shutting it off, or they lied about their ability to shut it off. Either way...


People still have leftover megaphones in their invs from back when you used to be able to obtain them. The feature itself isn't disabled.
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> dont release them, they are bugged, everytime i see someone wearing one of those it starts jumping arround my screen like crazy and it is really annoying
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> Considering many people already requested the Alice dress here in NA and it's nowhere to be seen and with absolutely no plans to release, and that's a way smaller issue in my opinion, it just lifts the skirt stupidly, doesn't give you headaches and stuff like that.
> That one, is a costume they sell, so they could make money out of it, and even that they haven't fixed. So sadly I see no future for the scarves too.

You can easily just greet the person and it fixes the bug! It sucks they can't do it officially but this is one of the ways to fix it.
Besides the person putting it off and on.
drkmosc wrote: »
Partyblast wrote: »
Thomastic wrote: »
i have a feeling they can do more than what you
asusm5 wrote: »
people use for kill this wbam . drop items for stormcry . diamond . etching IV box . they just stay afk and get a notificacion of channel and location when boss respanw -
Tempest Kanash (Fyrmount)
Divine Reaver (Serpentis Isle)
Nyxarras (Sienna Canyon)
Linyphi (Vale of Spires)
Yunaras Snaggletooth (Plain of the Damned)
Betsael (Amena Quatla)

You're being pretty hopeful if you think that the mod is capable of doing that. The only thing it can do is tell if you a WBAM is loaded in your client. You'd have to be in the same channel and vicinity of the boss for it even say anything. Essentially the same if you were to have a secondary monitor with tera on it and afk while doing other stuff. Any dev can go on github and easily verify that

i think they can do more than you think or are using something else, It's pretty amazing how people find these Bosses and other BAMs during events so fast without seeming to look for them at all.

I can tell you that, I have a google doc which notifies me when it has surpassed a certain amount of time which is the earliest time for the wbam to spawn. However, it is not a hack and it is nothing unethical.

So if you find it unfair that people have advantage over you, kill a wbam and save the time you killed it to have the advantage over everyone else. That's pretty much how the monopoly works.

Google Docs are third party how very unethical of you :^)

But yea, I still find the loot WBs just fine .-. Yay more complaints and over-exaggeration about exploits, better just remove the game.

It's actually not that hard to put bot accs to log spawns but whatever i guess :s (besides knowing already the spawn intervals). In EU at least you might get banned for doing that :sweat:

I've actually seen a couple of bots standing in wboss areas :sweat_smile:
So yeah the mod is actually the least useful way of hunting for them since it only alerts when the boss loads into the client.
Shealee wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
Shealee wrote: »
i still cant believe that so many of what make Mystic a "support" healer is still left unused. Why is there no kind of DPS modifier buff for the group when we pull out vengence for a burn, but theres a defense buff from protection? (yes, buffing endurance is a defense move) why are all the other auras completely and utterly useless? When I play my priest almost every single one of her buffs and skills are used. 90% of mystics skills are useless. I've just never played a "support" class where everything about them was useless except for 2 buffs (auras are buffs) and their ability to heal.
Anyway. just a class rant, i love mystic i think they are a lot of fun to play, i just wish their skills were more widely used instead of having just a few that are viable.

Most of the cc skills are meant for pvp and 50% of their auras are useful so idk.
Their buffs strongly outshine priests buffs too.

50% arent useful, thats my point.

Well crit resist aura used to be (I'm not sure if it still is, didn't pvp with mystic in a while but crit resist is still needed iirc) useful in pvp.
Which only leaves us with the swiftly aura which... idk has it's use when grinding achievements? lol
The reason why swiftly is useless is because it overwrites the crit aura which is always more needed compared to movement speed. It's not like it's a bad aura with a completely useless stat (like balance or very low % heal aka regen circle).
RTP7PXH5AK wrote: »
Yes valkyrie have some serious dmg if played well. But I still don't understand why people calling ninja low dps if I do 90% of time same or higher dps than „top” dps classes.

Because if you have top tier players in top tier gear and one is a warrior and the other a ninja - the ninja will get outdpsed every time. You're probably matching against unskilled players or you're simply very good with ninja and understand how the class works.
My friend tends to outdps brawlers on his lancer. Does that mean lancers do more damage than brawlers? No, he is simply skilled and has good gear while the brawlers can't play their class well and don't have gear of his level.
Most players, especially in ims, are not that good with their class.
Lyanni wrote: »
That's why i cant get my last boss for the achievement. Makes sense.
I suspected :P

It was hard to get them from the start of the patch without the exploit honestly.
But recently I've been noticing it's getting reaaaaally hard to hunt for them and I probably killed 40+ since the patch came out.
Not a whole lot but I walked around often during dead times lol.
Christin wrote: »
The OP's post is exactly why many of us never play dungeons. People grind the dungeons and get extremely mad if anyone either slows them up or isn't pro. If you are pro, then they flip out when they mess up and blame you. Unfortunately, EME and BHS don't care much for solo players, which is extremely sad. Nothing is going to change no matter how many posts you make. The game is full to the brim with elitists and spoiled brats. Don't the forums pretty much prove my point? You can't even make a post criticizing the game without the above chiming in with their usual nasty and mean posts. The above are all over Tera, which is why many of us avoid dungeons, raids and parties like the plague. Even Kumas is toxic and that is meant for new players at level 20. Not even sure why I bother to post on these,because it's not like anything will change. Surely my post will be followed with "it's an mmo, so solo players should leave" and so on. Funny thing is that I play on other mmo's, and they are mainly solo content. You only interact with others if and when you want. They are the games growing like crazy now, unlike Tera.

You may think you have the choice to ignore or block the toxic players, but they most likely have already gone around telling everyone how bad you were in the dungeon. In fact, you're likely to start getting kicked from dungeons if they or anyone that has seen this thread is in your party. See, not only do the toxic people pick on you, but they encourage their friends, guild mates and anyone else that will give them attention to pick on you as well. Here's hoping they didn't call you out on global, or everyone would know. There's really nothing stopping them. I often see people getting trashed on global. The reporting system is a joke, so you either deal with it or leave.

Wow you're exaggerating! Tera has plenty of solo content and you can earn most by spamming low tier iod all day every day if you wanted to. Ace dungeons, Ghilie, Celestial arena or w.e, Echoes of Aranea, achievement hunting, world bosses, Island of Dawn. Plenty of solo content! You could even solo RG which is extremely easy to do in frostmetal so there's another one to your list!
I'm generally friendly in ims and somehow I never run into these overly toxic scumbags, weirdly enough. Is it because I know what I'm doing and I'm a team player? Not sure, but what I can tell you is I've been an ims nerd for quite a while now. I'm a masochist and a sucker for trap runs and most of the toxic players that I've encountered were actually kinda new.
Elitists usually hang around their guilds and lfgs. You will rarely run into a party of elitists in ims that will be extremely rude to you, this is such a rare occurrence for reals.
Also even though the guy in op's post is a complete idiot as stated many times before, he didn't get mad at OP because OP "wasn't a pro". He got mad at OP because OP didn't know the bare basics of the dungeon. You're really over-exaggerating this.

There was a time when I was a newbie and I didn't even know what attack speed scrolls were. I was lucky that some guy told me "use an attack speed scroll u [filtered]" cause otherwise I probably wouldn't have learned what that stuff was for a while. Idk why some people try so really hard in this thread to only point out the bad things and focus on them. People are rude in the heat of the moment, [filtered] happens. Just because you were [filtered] talked once or twice (could have been your fault without knowing actually!) seriously doesn't mean the whole community is like that, which it really is not.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to respond in this thread anymore.
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Ughhh are they seriously doing that. Just give us constant x2 I don't want EVERYTHING to depend on events, people do dungeons low enough as is, this will just make everyone retreat into solo content even more until x3 starts ffs.
Eme please reconsider this.
We're not Koreans we don't like their type of grind, after five years you'd think it's obvious.
At least if you're going to do this, BEFORE YOU DO IT, fix the vanguard shop prices and make them much lower so the 3x """events""" (aka something we had usually but now it's condensed into a small timeframe and is basically even LESS rewarding in the long run) actually have some value.
Also add permanent keen mote as eu has because now we will have their vanguard rewards kthx : ))))
Hello, welcome to the game!
As far as class goes you can play anything you like really, if you have any specific traits you like (support, offensive, healing, quick combat) you can list them and it will be easier to recommend you stuff as this game has some variety in what to offer due to the holy trinity system.
Essential mana is a great player made site with all kinds of guides to offer, I really recommend reading up when you have questions about leveling guides, classes, dungeons, it has a lot of useful info!
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Like I said nobody is actively looking for somebody to scam. People are allowed to list items for whatever they want. Yes it's a bit scummy but banning/punishing people for something absurd as this is just trying to protect people that don't know how to read.
I just find it counter productive and the severe hugbox mentality kind of bothers me because this is an mmo.. A virtual world where people can play a scummy merchant if they wish to.
You said you flip and raise market prices yourself, in my eyes that might be scummy too if I decide that a golden talent is worth 10 gold and you're selling it for 35 (just pulling numbers out of my [filtered]), this is no different, it's playing the market in one way or another. Besides this isn't a reliable way of obtaining gold and I don't think large amounts of people were scammed by this. Changing the name would help, but dummies will always find something to get tricked by and demand punishment for the person smart enough to trick them, it's a never ending cycle.
Nobody lost real life money, nor did anyone lose a humongous amount of gold.
Why do careless people always have to be taken care of? Reminds me of kindergarten honestly.
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This is such an absurd and ridiculous comparison. Excuse me but rape victims can do nothing to prevent rape.
But you can prevent yourself from being stupid that's for sure.
This can only serve as a lesson.
I know people that sold normal niveots (not the fine ones) for 600 gold and made decent profit from it.
Is it a bit unethical? Yes. But you still depend on people being blind/not paying attention before they buy things. You're not raping them geez.
And they're not advertising the diamond ticket as something it's not. They just list it on the broker and people that let themselves be exploited - get exploited. They're not telling the buyers "hey dude if you buy this ticket you'll be able to cash it in for a diamond, I'll include one for free!", nobody is being tricked here. People should just learn how to read descriptions and Oh I dunno check broker history or when such a decent amount of gold is being spent they should be more careful.
Victims sometimes are to blame, they're not always free of judgement - especially when they suffer consequences from not being careful enough.
Even in normal every day trade people will do anything and everything to trick you and earn the best amount of money with the least amount of effort. It's not a foreign concept and I don't see why it shouldn't have a place in a virtual market controlled by players, it makes it all the more real and interesting.
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Some part of the bug was fixed in an incoming patch (not sure if it was the range or the autolockon or both) .
Should reach us this January, February if eme is feeling lazy.
Zoknahal wrote: »
Thank you for the answer @Spacecats

Unfortunately, it is not a pleasant answer. Someone mentioned EU, yes, they are the prime example that the signs can work for its intended purpose without harassing or spouting profanity, if left alone.

But unfortunately, i cannot see anything in your answer that can work as a solution to this items not being available in NA but yes in other regions.
Just because the people at EME does not wanna deal with ticket support, is not a valid reason to simply remove the items, thats just the easy lazy solution.

Sure, there are lots of airheads in NA that will meme their way up with the signs and troll with the fireworks, but only for the first few days. If left alone, these people will soon stop. If the main concern is the amount of tickets that can surge on the re release of this items, then proper measurements must be taken to deal with the amount of tickets.

I see the long term benefit of the signs. They can be used as place markers for those who like to explore or someone wanting to lead the way to a place in the game, the amount of good uses this signs have, vastly outnumber the bad uses, such as insulting and profanity.

@counterpoint I have to disagree. If you want a case on what good this signs can be for the game, lets just use these as examples:
- Place markers for HH
- Place markers for key spots in the TERA landscape for individuals and guilds, to use as their meeting place.
- Role Play
- Helping newbies find the way and/or helping them in their initial journey, with easy to understand instructions on what they have to do next, like, going to X place to complete an X quest.
- In Game on spot Guild recruiting play.
- Marking the way to a specific place.

And many more imaginative uses. Overall i think they are a nice addition to the players to just have some fun outside of the normal daily grind. And ill use Fashion coupons for an example: People keep using more the costumes from the shop rather than the ones available in the Fashion Coupon shop, so using the logic in your initial post, what benefit to the game would bring updating the fashion coupon shop if people will keep using the stuff from the cash shop regardless? The same applies to the signs. Rather than have them completely removed, EME did not measured the benefits of the signs, and decided to simply remove them to not deal with support tickets, rather than working on a fix. Easy lazy solution.

I fully agree, signs on eu are a normal thing and I know for a fact players on eu are much more toxic and generally uncomfortable to be around with (I was actually surprised by the rudeness a few times) and still I haven't seen very insulting/trolling signs.
Once the novelty wears off people will forget about them, and they will be mostly used for reasons mentioned above.
I'd really like if you guys could reconsider and reintroduce them because if EU can deal with them, why can't NA?
ElinLove wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
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CornishRex wrote: »
Lol I think you completely missed the point.
I'd never even heard that nostrum exists so excuse me for not knowing the contents of everything in the game.

Excuse me but the game literally throws these at you and you can't enter a certain dungeon (kalivan's challenge) without having one on. Pls. Pls.

Second thing, yes you are underprepared for a dungeon if you didn't read up on a guide from youtube/forums/essential mana. It's a sad state we don't have proper guides on the site, but every player in ims SHOULD have the basic knowledge of the dungeon, less they want to trap their teammates for hours because they were too lazy to google.
You said to him you don't care you're doing badly so obviously you didn't care which flowers you need to kill, how it would help them, you never looked at the buff bar when you killed the flowers and were never able to deduce what killing each flower means. Frankly, a guide isn't even needed for this dungeon.
The guy who lashed out at you is a toxic idiot but let this be a lesson - prepare properly before going into a dungeon, and before you start a dungeon say you're new. Some people will be glad to help if they're aware of the situation.
And yes we do need ingame dps meters, badly.

People are not obligated to read guides or look at videos from streamers or yourtube channels.

These kind of behaviour from new gamers is what has been killing the fun on the games and that is to learn how to play it "playing it".

totally agreed, and I'll keep calling this "do the homework method" forever, as it's just as stupid as asking someone to do homework for their games. It's a shame the game doesn't have any proper mechanics teaching system (it's obvious we shouldn't just obligate players to do this, they tried with mentor and look how it ended).
That being said it doesn't take much more than asking what to do in most dungeons, and like 90% will say what to do (that is, from the people that DO know what to do), the other 10% are divided between not wanting to say cause they're lazy and will say later during the run IF anything goes wrong, and the ones that just b!tch and are useless.

Learning things is fun the first time you do it, and I don't mind doing that with new dungeons with my friends that have grasped how the game works and are smart enough to notice mechanics and buffs/debuffs and what happens when you touch this and when you destroy that etc.
Unfortunately this game centers around repetitive dungeons so you only really learn things once (and frankly I'm only feeling like getting stuck in a dungeon forever so many times...).
This is why in ims I expect people to know things to at least a basic level. If you want to learn without "doing the homework" sure thing bro, make a LEARNING LFG NO GUIDE run and knock it out with other people, you might get friends.
Mid and late patch it's expected of people to know basics of dungeons and it sucks for new players but it's just how the game works. I mean it's either read the guide or make me repeat the same thing over and over and over in ims because that's what I usually find myself doing in 439's. It saves time, it's convenient and prevents you from making a fool of yourself or giving a bad time to other party members.
If you want to goof around get friends to do it with, strangers usually want to get through runs fast and rarely are in the dungeon -only- for funsies.

Keep in mind when I ims I am prepared for these types of people, and I do queue mostly to have fun and carry newbies but I appreciate when the newbie says "hey I'm first time and I looked over the guide, mind explaining/confirming things".
Lol I think you completely missed the point.
I'd never even heard that nostrum exists so excuse me for not knowing the contents of everything in the game.

Excuse me but the game literally throws these at you and you can't enter a certain dungeon (kalivan's challenge) without having one on. Pls. Pls.

Second thing, yes you are underprepared for a dungeon if you didn't read up on a guide from youtube/forums/essential mana. It's a sad state we don't have proper guides on the site, but every player in ims SHOULD have the basic knowledge of the dungeon, less they want to trap their teammates for hours because they were too lazy to google.
You said to him you don't care you're doing badly so obviously you didn't care which flowers you need to kill, how it would help them, you never looked at the buff bar when you killed the flowers and were never able to deduce what killing each flower means. Frankly, a guide isn't even needed for this dungeon.
The guy who lashed out at you is a toxic idiot but let this be a lesson - prepare properly before going into a dungeon, and before you start a dungeon say you're new. Some people will be glad to help if they're aware of the situation.
And yes we do need ingame dps meters, badly.
Arwen wrote: »
I mained a priest for most of the years I've been playing Tera. Since the big changes to mystic i made one and because of the broken lock-on and extreme long range, lately I cannot play the priest with the same ease as I did before. I just find it somehow "hard" to effectively lock onto multiple targets healing and moving, while on mystic i can literaly be back-siding a player and still locking onto him with the cursor.
If they plan on changing the lock-on i would rather have the same mobility/range/broken lock-on into priest that atm is into mystic, rather than have it fixed. :p

The auto lockon is pretty bad when you want to lock on to specific people so I'd rather they revert it so it actually takes some skill.
clfarron4 wrote: »
@Zoknahal If I believe correctly, the original reason for banning signs was because of being able to grief players anonymously. KTERA fixed this ages ago by adding who posted the sign above the sign itself with an NPC-style name above it (and yes, that is how it works in the NA build). So the problem about spamming profanity can now be dealt with using temporary bans because you can now attribute the sign to the poster.

One legitimate use for signs, even though no-one is supposed to have them in NA TERA, is as location markers in dungeons, most notably in HH P4, because of their size. On EU, signs are generally used to be helpful, for example Guild Recruitment.

I think that if they were to be enabled on the NA build, they would have to be heavily moderated at the beginning to make the point that spamming profanity would not be tolerated, but that would require a surge of GMs to watch it.

Does everyone forget this is an M rated game or are profanities still not allowed somehow?
Either way I think the profanity stuff would only persist at first because reintroduced signs would be a novelty so everyone will meme around with them of course. After a while it will stop and EU makes a great example. I've only seen signs used there in a useful matter (ignoring the few jokes here and there, I barely saw any), mostly for buddyup codes, guild recruitments etc.
My guild also did a cute open-world Christmas event where we placed signs around and had our guildies find them and get presents. They can be used in many nice ways! Also good for p4 as you've mentioned.
Lyanni wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »

I did grasp the situation, a person told me that lkn can't be overhealed. I told them otherwise. That's it lol. I went through a lot of trap runs and I know for a fact that lkn in ims can't go horribly wrong unless people are trolling and doing bad things on purpose

Never said exactly that it cant be overhealed, It can. But there's times where things can happen where you cant overheal everyone. But for a good healer, will never go horribly wrong even if someone dies.

Even tho its very rare, you must be lucky if you never had one of those parties (scattered parties) at least once.
May be easier with a mystic because of the range of the heal + cleanse tho, because when there's someone in need of heals and cleanse for example in the 2nd boss of LK that goes 50+ meters away from me and the position of the boss, even when im trying to run in his direction, i sure wont run after him as a Priest.
Unless im in a really good day and everything else is ok. :P
Imagine that with 4 people every single one of them running in different directions. Again, easier with mystic, but as a Priest sometimes i have to make choices cause i cant for sure lock in every single one of them if they're 30meters+ away from me each one in a different direction.

I think we agree with "people die in lkn even if you're a good healer.".
The only thing that grinds my gears, and im not talking about you personally, is when people say "if people die in those dungeons, you're a bad healer".
I replied to you just because of your post of each boss in LK, that in my opinion, may lead even more in error those people that say that kind of stuff, as a "its too easy of a dungeon for a healer to let anyone die"
Things can go many ways, sht happens and sometimes a healer may not get to you in time.

Mmm yeah I get you [filtered] CAN happen. I should have worded my stuff better, but yeah in most cases you should be fine and dandy in those dungeons, it's why I was so critical of op.
I wouldn't call someone a terrible healer for letting anyone die there because personally my attention span in 431s has been ranging from mildly sleepy to super sleepy lately.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
What gear do you have? Do you have all your glyphs? Do you have etchings and what tier? What crystals do you have? Fine Niveouts? Dyads? What inners do you have? ...
I used to have twist on mystic, didnt have problems with mid tiers. I recall having problems in +0 frost in lkh and trh though, things hurt a bit and I died because I wasn't careful but I digress, because that's not a mid tier dungeon. I have standard healer stuff.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
You don't even grasped half of the situation here, you only take your own standars as the things that should have been on that party.
I did grasp the situation, a person told me that lkn can't be overhealed. I told them otherwise. That's it lol. I went through a lot of trap runs and I know for a fact that lkn in ims can't go horribly wrong unless people are trolling and doing bad things on purpose.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Many players dont have etchings, have wrong crystals, have bad and incomplete glyphs, have bad inners... and you expect to reproduce the same run at a random way just to prove what? to prove that you have not knowlegde about all the issues in that particular run.

I can say also "I can solo LKNM with my dps class and if other dps die in that run then is becuase is his fault".

If they don't have good crystals and a decent setup (at least the basic glyphs are required in mids) then they're a bad healer?? I was talking about how a healer that considers themself to be decent/good can't have trouble in lkn. A new inexperienced player will have trouble there of course they will. Because they don't know the basics.
You missed my point too! Because I was mainly replying to Lyani saying people die in lkn even if you're a good healer.
Lyanni wrote: »
Add to all that a DPS that gets hit by something/has stacks/whatever and keeps running from you.
Or even a DPS that stays in front of the boss at all times.

Well that's exactly what I had on two runs, it's not hard to take care of people in 431s at all. Like at any point them running away and scattering will not be troublesome, and should not be.
Lyanni wrote: »
And that sentence of him is still wrong even if only for a mystic, there's things that can happen which, no matter how much you heal or spam heals, you sometimes cant save everyone. (eg, people running everywhere, to each corner of the map, sometimes you have to make choices)

Ehh I still disagree, lkn is easy to over heal. Like, really damn easy. As I said in my previous post the only time it can get chaotic is if everyone happens to get back-kicked into the bomb and gets 2-3 stacks and even then you can heal it up if you know what to prioritize (always cleanse first, pop a mote for yourself, pop thrall of life, do a boomerang and a lock on heal - job done, for priest it's literally just cleanse, immersion, kaia and you're done). Unless people purposely walk into the aoe and stand there it's impossible to not be able to overheal. Scattered people are a mild annoyance for priests in nm because cleanse range is small but even then it's just what it is - a mild annoyance.

I main priest and generally things are easier for me as a priest because I find the class more comfortable.

I easily did over 500 ims runs and mid tiers have never been as easy and boring to heal carry as they are now. High tiers are another story...
My biggest pet peeve is people scattering but "leave and let them die until they decide to get their [filtered] to me or the boss" technique is something you literally can't do in lkn as the dungeon is so dumb and easy because of the lack of damaging bosses and painful mechs.

Also a healer isn't bad in my eyes when they make mistakes, hell I still have tons of room for improvement.
A healer is bad when they make the mistake and refuse to own up to it or act as if healers can't make mistakes and everything was the dps' fault, the guy in op's example was an insecure idiot though lmao.
That said, healing is still the easiest job in the game and because of that healers should have less room allowed for mistakes, in my opinion. That's why they also get criticized more often, because people are more critical of them.


Lyanni wrote: »
9XNTHP5R3H wrote: »
I'm sorry dude but if you can't keep someone alive in lkn, you're a bad healer. No matter how much they face tank. They shouldn't have been toxic towards you of course but if you actually knew how to heal they wouldn't have died.

That's so wrong. People die even in LKN if you're a good healer. There's a lot of reasons why someone could die there where the healer would have no fault.
You have no idea what you're talking about or you never healed or you simply had the best luck to never had someone really bad on your team.

Just to test things (and finish an achievement for Pyrepelts back kick) I went and did 6 LKNs today with my mystic. 2 of those times I got particularly bad parties with bad/squishy gear, other times they ranged from good to great.

First boss
Since I had to get kicked by every back kick it also implied I would have to get stacks from the fire aoe and I made sure to gt 3 every time. Every time most of the dps would get hit as well, some of them getting 2 some 3 stacks. I had absolutely no troubles healing them up, one lock-on heal and boomerang in the right moment and nobody had any troubles surviving. Using totem is bad for big hits because totem barely heals and should never be used in such a way, I only pop it when nothing special is happening and I have nothing else to use. DPS got hit by mostly everything (his jumps, back kicks, big uniframeable aoe etc.).
Conclusion: DPS can't get killed so easily on first boss but it can get a bit chaotic if the puddle is placed on the middle and people continuously get pushed into it, a good healer can carry through this tho.
Second boss
Nothing really hurts on that one except for the aoe that does fixed damage, even then it's easy healing through it and cleansing slows because of mystic range on heal/cleanse, this boss is a nonissue for mystics. I had dps that stayed in the puddles and consistently ate damage, no problems there either since it ticks only 10k per puddle.
Conclusion: nothing can kill you here except maybe, just maybe someone gets stuck on 5+ stacks of puddles and they tick away at him fast, very rare. Priests can pull you out of this one.
Last boss
Lilith is the only boss where people can get one-shot and die out of my control, that being the aoes she places under people (the attack is very slow and gives you plenty time to prepare, but if you miss the iframe as a melee dps you're most likely dead). I had people die 3-4 times through these runs, usually when I run lkn it happens more often but in these 6 runs I've had a lot of ranged dps which can survive the aoe as they're usually more spread. The other thing that can kill you is getting 5 stacks of that debuff, that happened once or twice.
Conclusion: the only boss where people can die out of your control. Nothing that makes the run chaotic though.

LKN is definitely one of the easiest 431s to heal (I'd say second right after KDN, TRN actually hurts sometimes and is more fun to heal because of that, the powergap is pretty big between trn and lkn imo).

Did I miss anything? Being a healer this patch is really boring outside of LKH, TRH and second boss in rk9 (excluding the hard content because not everyone does or can do that).
Aenoe wrote: »
Why are people just assuming I didn't use lock on heal, or boomerang? Ofcourse I did, I always off cooldown spam titanic, obviously, because it isn't my first run and I drop motes around the boss as a last option, as I mentioned one berserker died only once in 2 runs because he rushed outside the circle and gained 3 stacks. I wish I could've pulled him in like a priest can, but I just spammed titanic and dropped a totem, but sadly I couln't save him.

But that wasn't my point at all, I was just wondering why such pure hate was absolutely necessary.
It's very heartbreaking that people have this much hate in them.
How did he die then if he had your heals at his disposal :thinking: In the screenshot he's asking for a lockon heal...
That aside he's stupid for going into the aoe anyway, and he's even more stupid for getting angry at his deaths since it's just an lkn lol.
People are full of hate when they die to silly things and feel stupid for it, getting angry at someone else instead of yourself is what everyone does, probably even you without noticing!
And in the case that it's actually your fault well.. as someone who mains healers I tend to get angry internally when I play a dps and a healer lets me die from a debuff or something silly like that zerk above died from. It sucks when you're dying and you know there's nothing you as a dps can do about it and you depend on a healer that's not really paying attention to what they're doing.
I can't really tell you why he was so vocal about it, maybe he was trying to make himself look better in front of his friends, maybe he had a bad day, maybe he had a bad run that pissed him off earlier and now he is in a bad mood or he is just an [filtered].
What I can tell you is that it's not worth making a thread about it because you will encounter people much worse and much better than this guy because that's how people are. The only thing you can do is improve enough to not warrant these kinds of responses from others and instead only get praise.

On a relevant note, I had an opposite experience as a mystic in one of my trh ims runs. I got into a party of terrible dps that had no idea what they're doing. They kept getting one shot when monkey boss did his aoe attacks and we ended up wiping because he bugged on the banana mechanic and somehow did the stun twice which in turn killed us all. After the wipe one of the dps just said "mystic, motes????????" and /dropped. Probably one of the weirdest experiences I've had as a healer but it gave me a good laugh.
RKC wrote: »
I got nothing out of these and all my fed bills are gone :(

That's lootboxes for you
This is the only useful advantage elite has right now, remember you can always use trade or get enough gold and buy elite off of broker!
You can be a f2p player and have elite.
I still have over 1k dragon fireworks on av. maybe someday I will sell them

They were made untradeable recently lol
Too late
Oh god their comments made me lol. Typical players that are glad someone is finally is doing worse than them so that they can insult :weary:
When you ims you should always, -always- expect newbies. When people are doing things wrong I try to correct them but in tera it's extremely frustrating because newbies tend to not speak english at all and in the end you just waste breath. And I think this is where all the elitism and hate stems from but hell if I know.
That said...
Valk guides, as far as I know, are good. At least good enough for a returning player.
As for dungeon guides... C'mon dude it's not so hard. I just googled it and got essential mana as the first result. Everything is nicely explained in the first paragraph (the mistake you made with the flowers is explained right away).
There's 0 excuse for not reading a guide. You are expecting a bit of a carry let's be honest.

Both sides are wrong. Toxicity should be lessened but newbies should also try harder to find guides. I did it when I started playing. Why can't others?
And don't get me wrong, I ims all the time, I explain things all the time and I help people as much as I can. I'm probably one of the least toxic players you can get in ims (at least in your face, sorry if I'm giggling at your mistakes behind the screen a bit, or complaining to my friends...) and with so much ims experience I can see why people are so elitist in this game - newbies seem so lazy and very willing to get free carries wherever they go.

Also everything I agree with pretty much everything @Naru2008 said. Especially the last paragraph.
Motes are mostly meant for yourself. Or in case you're dead dps can eat them.
If you're having trouble pop a thrall of life and cleanse those that need to be cleansed and then heal the rest. You have focus heal which can crit for almost full health. You have boomerang which also heals for full health.
I'd say this is pretty much your fault.
When dps have to pot = bad/learning healer (unless the healer is rezing a tank or is generally far away due to a mechanic but that happens rarely i.e healer taking away goblins in trh or placing bananas in trh).

Also it's hilarious people are getting pissed over deaths in lkn and screaming at the healer, but that's their attitude issue.

Pls stop pulling the "everyone always screams at us poor healers :'(" card it's really annoying.
If people scream at you in this game they do so for a reason - you're doing something wrong. Yes they can be toxic but you can easily tell them "my bad, no need to be so rude" or something along those lines. Being aware of your own faults goes a long way.
Healers have the easiest job in this game I swear I'm sick of these types of threads sometimes.
Naverath wrote: »
2 years ago, yes you were right. 2 years passed and 4 new classes came and all of them recommended to female character!!!!!!!! unacceptable

So when there's a female char in a single player game you just don't play it? :rofl:
Idk why people make that big of a deal out of gender locks, many mmos have that and race locks as well.
It's a matter of time/money and if people play female characters more then things like these happen.
Sucks but it's life.
It all gets down to the lack of staff and (in my opinion) too many games that eme can't handle publishing.
And I'm not saying that as an excuse really, they ought to fix that soon because the amount of players leaving has left quite an impact lately.
Chill yo [filtered]
Shealee wrote: »
i still cant believe that so many of what make Mystic a "support" healer is still left unused. Why is there no kind of DPS modifier buff for the group when we pull out vengence for a burn, but theres a defense buff from protection? (yes, buffing endurance is a defense move) why are all the other auras completely and utterly useless? When I play my priest almost every single one of her buffs and skills are used. 90% of mystics skills are useless. I've just never played a "support" class where everything about them was useless except for 2 buffs (auras are buffs) and their ability to heal.
Anyway. just a class rant, i love mystic i think they are a lot of fun to play, i just wish their skills were more widely used instead of having just a few that are viable.

Most of the cc skills are meant for pvp and 50% of their auras are useful so idk.
Their buffs strongly outshine priests buffs too.
Desync is a [filtered], no callouts on the forums though
ElinUsagi wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Koikoi wrote: »
> @counterpoint said:
> Everything in this gear cycle was set by BHS, since EME decided that, after messing with mats via events so much last round, they were going to stick to BHS's defaults to see how it went. Player Council had absolutely zero input into anything, since everything was driven by that EME decision. (We did send them feedback when rewards differed from what other regions had, though. It seems they are looking into this bug.)
>
> It may be that, having seen how it's gone for the last few months, their willingness to make adjustments will increase, and they'll start taking input again. But they made it very clear that they had no plans to adjust anything until they saw how it went. The feedback in this thread is part of "how it went."

We are 3 months into this gear cycle. That is plenty enough time to get feedback.

They've finally "updated" BG rewards. Barely. The chance is still disgustingly high to get etching mats instead of gems.

Right now were lacking a few things:
Essences
Silver talents
Emeralds and diamonds

Essence should be something limited for those who run HH.

BHS and EME should remove drops from GG, World Bosses and even from RKEM of that material and improve the amount HH players get them from that content.

That's pretty unfair because some servers barely manage to create a raid and doing hh is just too much of a hassle for some people (people that work, can't play at the same times every week, irregular schedules etc.)
Having essences drop from other sources is a pretty nice direction bhs took as opposed to oblit/behe imo.

And you think adding essences to the easier content in the end-game is the most fair way to do it?

Did I ever say that? I'm happy with how it is right now, why you putting words in my mouth.
RKE is hard enough and world bosses drop them at such an abysmal rate its negligible (from my personal experience after killing quite a lot of world bosses).
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Koikoi wrote: »
> @counterpoint said:
> Everything in this gear cycle was set by BHS, since EME decided that, after messing with mats via events so much last round, they were going to stick to BHS's defaults to see how it went. Player Council had absolutely zero input into anything, since everything was driven by that EME decision. (We did send them feedback when rewards differed from what other regions had, though. It seems they are looking into this bug.)
>
> It may be that, having seen how it's gone for the last few months, their willingness to make adjustments will increase, and they'll start taking input again. But they made it very clear that they had no plans to adjust anything until they saw how it went. The feedback in this thread is part of "how it went."

We are 3 months into this gear cycle. That is plenty enough time to get feedback.

They've finally "updated" BG rewards. Barely. The chance is still disgustingly high to get etching mats instead of gems.

Right now were lacking a few things:
Essences
Silver talents
Emeralds and diamonds

Essence should be something limited for those who run HH.

BHS and EME should remove drops from GG, World Bosses and even from RKEM of that material and improve the amount HH players get them from that content.

That's pretty unfair because some servers barely manage to create a raid and doing hh is just too much of a hassle for some people (people that work, can't play at the same times every week, irregular schedules etc.)
Having essences drop from other sources is a pretty nice direction bhs took as opposed to oblit/behe imo.
ElinLove wrote: »
Starravage wrote: »
How much graphic ram do you have and system ram? I read somewhere on this forum that you need a lot of ram to run Tera smoothly, but that's more on loading everything

I vote on hoax, or memory leak.
I have 8GB and TERA never used more than 1,6GB in total. Seriously.

Do you have multiple controllers on your system, or even just one? If it's not an Xbox 360 controller, it can cause memory leak, in which case you need to unplug and plug it back to solve. Yea. This is a thing.

Personally I have memory leak problems if I leave the game on for too long but a relog fixes it. No controllers :sweat_smile:
Ammutseba wrote: »
Margarethe wrote: »
Is it possible to have one cursed event on Tera without increased lag?

Also, for the amusing people that will bother posting "I don't have lag, must be your etc", good for you.

Honestly, I think this is why they don't bother holding many events (other than cash shop). The servers just can't handle the increase in active population without crashing.

Gosh it's not like we suddenly gain 50k players. It shouldn't be that bad imo but w.e.
Also we didn't have a maint in a long while so I'd say servers need a little refresh too.
Naru2008 wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
I think y'all should just chill at this point. We had a long thread on the same topic a few days ago and while it was fun and interesting to poke fun at eme's complete lack of understanding of the game at this point and poor choice of words I don't think that this specific topic deserves two threads with 5+ pages.
But one thing in this thread really grinds my gears.
@counterpoint and @Naru2008 saying poor hurt eme won't log into their forum accounts because people say childish things, they don't want to pay attention to the threads because of that anymore :'(
Excuse me, but what? This is their job, they're not volunteering and they're paid to do this. They're supposed to know the game well enough to be able to discern between shitposts and legit complaints.
I mean you two are legit just insulting and undermining people that work here, indirectly calling them too dumb to be able to read legit criticism because trolls hurt their fee-fees. "This is why they don't take us seriously". No, not really. They haven't been taking us seriously for so damned long we started to complain about their wording, it's just the straw that broke the camels back. People are sick of this game falling down so hard and eme is losing their touch that they will jump on the silliest bandwagon just to show their frustrations even more.
Also this is what people do in real life too. They complain and complain and complain and cry in-between, people never really grow up completely. But if you signed up for such a job and obviously can't do it... C'est la vie, no?

That's like saying a fast food employee can't refuse to serve a rude customer; fact is, they can refuse.

EME doesn't HAVE to come and comment on the forums. That isn't stated in any of their job descriptions. They literally do not have to, and are not required to. They're also not required to tell us when a maintenance is extended or delayed, or why certain changes come or go, etc, etc.

The point here is; No, it isn't their job to come to the forums and say anything, and no, they don't have to.

Um. What. Am I being trolled? Community managers don't have to do their job? Aka converse with the community? Eh?
And where did I say they have to reply to rude customers? I'd just like if they stopped ignoring the good feedback so often aka they're supposed to know the game well enough to be able to discern between shitposts and legit complaints and then reply accordingly. I mean they depend on our feedback it's in their best interest to satisfy their customers while making profit... Or so I think? Am I wrong?
Nothing you've said connects in any way with what I said lol.
Also say hello to the eme website 0xDiHs0DRFiwxvDVGurDUw.png
Community managers manage community as hard as it is to believe so yeah, it is part of their job to come here and talk with us mortals.
I think y'all should just chill at this point. We had a long thread on the same topic a few days ago and while it was fun and interesting to poke fun at eme's complete lack of understanding of the game at this point and poor choice of words I don't think that this specific topic deserves two threads with 5+ pages.
But one thing in this thread really grinds my gears.
@counterpoint and @Naru2008 saying poor hurt eme won't log into their forum accounts because people say childish things, they don't want to pay attention to the threads because of that anymore :'(
Excuse me, but what? This is their job, they're not volunteering and they're paid to do this. They're supposed to know the game well enough to be able to discern between shitposts and legit complaints.
I mean you two are legit just insulting and undermining people that work here, indirectly calling them too dumb to be able to read legit criticism because trolls hurt their fee-fees. "This is why they don't take us seriously". No, not really. They haven't been taking us seriously for so damned long we started to complain about their wording, it's just the straw that broke the camels back. People are sick of this game falling down so hard and eme is losing their touch that they will jump on the silliest bandwagon just to show their frustrations even more.
Also this is what people do in real life too. They complain and complain and complain and cry in-between, people never really grow up completely. But if you signed up for such a job and obviously can't do it... C'est la vie, no?
CornishRex wrote: »
Gib cross server lfg and I'll be happy

I feel like that would solve a lot of it, but I feel like many that want a server merge, is due to them wanting to have people see what they bought in the cash shop, or to [filtered] or talk trash to. even I can solo the open world stuff, so it couldn't be that.

No most people don't care about that, most people just want to have bigger guilds with more people and fuller towns.
While I love that too personally I see how server merges will create big problems for the selfish name hoarders and people with lots of chars.
Cross server lfg would be a win-win for people that want to fill up groups faster and for people that want to keep 16 chars on each server.
and hunting world bams on ded servers is a tad easier because of the lack of players.
Inb4 you get auto rejected from cross server lfg when people see [CH] when you apply :joy:
Gib cross server lfg and I'll be happy
You sound a bit brainwashed dude, we got your point after the first post stop repeating yourself or you'll end up sounding like a maniac. People that hack knows it's bad and they don't care, that's why they hack in the first place lol. Because they don't care if it affects the community badly.
Doesn't 431 dungeons drop 1 Emerald ? sounds pretty consistent to me

If it was a guaranteed emerald per person then it would be consistent. But it's one emerald per 5 people which is negligible.
Oh damn I get it now!
Next time I run with the person I don't like I will make sure to post their dps log to eme, for added spice I'll photoshop it and make it something like 30 M/s.
After that EME can investigate and find proof that the person used skill prediction at some point (like I dunno during the [filtered] routing days) and get banned! Or better yet, find packet loss during the time the servers [filtered] you over and think of it as a cheat! Because gm's have no idea about their own game :)
Gee thanks counterpoint! Time to ban everyone I ever disliked!

Shitposting aside it came to the point where I'm scared to tell the dps in rk9 (when I ims out of boredom) why exactly they're being kicked. After 2-3 shield wipes it's becoming apparent that the 400 k/s stormcry archer isn't doing his job. But if I say "sorry your dps sucks" they can just report me for using the dps meter to insult them.
Speaking of, isn't the person reporting the valk with the dps meter just using it to insult and invalidate their dps by implying they're hacking? They should get banned too, that's bm. Let's just ban everyone and free ourselves from this hell of a game actually, would do us all a favour.
Nedylene wrote: »
Ammutseba wrote: »
Nedylene wrote: »
It is done with the purpose to not give so much chances to farm resources and many jewels. This is the way of the new enchanting/upgrading system and the current content.

If they give all of the chances to gather and farm a lot of gold, resources, credits and jewels as many demand. Then player would have the high end gear in matter of weeks and players would even gear up an army of alt toon. And probably you and many orders would ask what is wrong about this. The wrong about these are the players. If you demand too much and too easy, later you will complaining that the endgame is too easy and boring because you already got all of the gear for your main and alternative toon and you will complain to BHS and EME that they don't release new content and gear and it is a pathetic and mindless neverending vicious circle.

Those are not meant to be reseted with this new gearing system adn content. Matter done, do not complain and play as it meant to be and the content will live for longer.

Happy Near Year!

I think I would agree with this comment if GG and PoP commonly dropped a dozen rubies, a couple emeralds, or a diamond. However, the drop rate is so low that you'll probably end up running those dungeons a hundred times or more on your way to SC +9.

Endgame is already boring. The grind is there to cover up for the lack of content. I don't log in as much as I used to because I can only take so much of grinding IOD, RG, SCE, etc.

GG and PoP are solo content and not group content. Because you think what you think, that does not mean that all of the other players will think the same and be in your same situation. These dungeons are meant to be part of the solo content for those players that want to do something fast and alone because they don't want to deal with the queue time and deal with other players.

You even said it with your own writing. These dungeons does not benefit your style and you do or prefer to do other content which is group content and higher content. So, don't complain, there is not place for your complain. The end game content offer diferent chances for the solo as also for group content and nobody force you to do one of those or all. It is your choice and as I already wrote, because you don't like those solo dungeons, that does not mean that are bad content because are quite practical and good for those that want to do something fast and easy without stressing with queue time and deal with a random group.

Well, it might be boring for you and that does not mean that it has to be boring for the rest. So, you should use better your words and think twice before writing. Would be better that you write that you consider the end game to be boring for "you" but don't generalize. The rest are not exactly you and we are individuals, we have diferences and several players might find entertraiment in some specific sub-content that you don't like. Don't generalise your ideas or thoughs as absolute and either going against the full game and the companies that handle it.

Too bad there's no other consistent way of getting gems except for ghillie and pop. They should just throw in more gems into the mix in normal dungeons, I don't like being forced into solo content t b h
I've had a guildie also get stuck logged in for about two weeks, took two maints to get them out lol. GM's couldn't get them out.
Also they got stuck while enchanting gear in Highwatch iirc. Right after the gear revamp patch hit.
Naru2008 wrote: »
7D6HAXWL3X wrote: »
What a [filtered] event, good job disappointing everyone

You complain for the longest for an event.
They give you an event.
You still complain.

God aren't you really unappreciative.

Cry some more.

$0.3 has been dep- Alright I kiiiinda agree with you this time, double drop is a pretty decent event and it's what people mostly asked for, don't go overboard guys. Silver talent farm better be more lucrative :weary:
Would be nice to see some experimental events like double gear xp in the future though.
I just hope the introduction of more staff will help this poor game :/
Margarethe wrote: »
Definition of high end:
-Intended for people who want very good quality products and who do not mind how much they cost:
High-end video equipment/a high-end department store

-Wanting very good quality products, and willing to pay a lot of money for them:
High-end consumers

Source:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/high-end

Clearly, misleading.

Eh.. u mislead yourself.. no one can do anything about that..
High-end video equipment = superior video equipment
Level 58 high-end gear = brainz exploded???
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Look, im not here to teach english. This is not even an english learning lesson forum.
People could've just politely asked EME's staff and gm for any clarification if they have a doubt on the term used in the offer deal. Instead of going "stop enticing zjdkjhlkj lying iiokjxm EME kjhkhxczkjxzkj go die!!" rage.

This whole thread reminds me of the offer for rainbow butterfly wing that u get as a gift if u purchased 20k emp, before this.
It was hilarious then, it's still hilarious now. A little bit sad, but, what can i do about it.. if people wanna make an asz out of themselves.
:flushed:

Superior is just a gear tier though, there's no other name for it, it's called superior. You can't call it high-end and somehow imply it means superior??? The two words have nothing in common in english as adjectives.
if we're going to teach each other english high-end means top of the pyramid kind of stuff, best of it's kind. Superior as an adjective (not as a noun) is mostly used to compare things, as in "this is superior to this". Which means it can be inferior to something else, nowhere does the adjective imply it's the highest in quality or w.e. You're mixing the noun superior which means a person with a high rank as in "he is my superior".
Khatarsis wrote: »
Hey the 5.500 emp steal for 74% is crazy, dude you get a TurdUcken hat, you can wear a turdhat, no tinfoil required.
EME's feedback to your problems is, drum roll baby, wear a turdhat.
https://chrono.gg/assets/images/turducken-icon.8768471a.png

A turkeyduckchicken
Come on the hat was the best part of the deal and it was free.
I'm not sure who's trolling who anymore B)
Khatarsis wrote: »
Today Only

All players who log in will receive a FREE Turducken Hat. <---- a freakin [filtered] man a freakin [filtered]

Source: https://chrono.gg/

And for those that are so innocent in heart, mind, body and soul to know what a [filtered] is, (i will not censor because it's from urban dictionary)
[filtered]
Generally, a log-shaped piece of [filtered].
Nevertheless, they are also found in coil-shape, mushroom-cloud shape, and even loch ness monster shape.

When i saw the [filtered] that you get for buying this, i honestly said to myself, gotta have this in my life.

Later edit: it's so bad that it actually auto filters the turducken hat, without the "ucken"

I mean turducken is a chicken stuffed into a duck stuffed into a turkey, it's a dish.
:eyes:
> @Naru2008 said:
> Ray676 wrote: »
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> No Christmas or holiday events, so EME don't care about community interaction.
> 25$ gold boxes to line EME pockets. Not holiday spirit at all, only used for taking your shekels.
> All access pack shilling, tera player council members going full shill promoting the pack as a good deal. Even though it's another 15$ cash grab with the contents not even worth a dollar.
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> give us back eme staff that care about players and not just in it for the money. eme staff right now lie to our face and take the [filtered] at the same time, act like they are our friends. should get an emmy for most petty actors
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> All counterpoint did was explain how the math was wrong. He wasn't promoting it, he was explaining how the math was being done wrong.
>
> Get your head out of your [filtered].

$0.3 have been deposited into your account.
Margarethe wrote: »
I have a feeling that some people don't understand what 'high end' means..
:astonished:
EllieChu wrote: »
No one should be buying this pack.

Eh.. if their mom allows it. For new year gift or something, i don't know..
There's nothing anyone can do about it.
:flushed:

By that logic, Guardian gear is now "High End" instead of "Starter Gear".

Dude guardian is obviously ultimate gear. Imagine if you gave free guardian with this bundle. I think riots would break out in the streets.
;)
tisnotme wrote: »
Hahaha this is so funny
It's an offer from Chrono.gg that EME is showing and not actually an EME event but every ones throwing the hate none the less

I still find it hilarious, at this point I'm just taking the [filtered] out of eme because it's just disappointment after disappointment.
I'm trying to be constructive but eme is not helping my cause :'(
I'll just... leave this.... here.... unknown.png

First thing eme does after the holidays is make another cash grab :) Fantastic :)

Jokes aside it's more worth it just getting one month elite compared to this because who knows when that lvl 60 scroll is going to sell. And there's no point in using it either cause
a) if you're new - you want to experience first time leveling
b) if you're an old player - you can reach 65 in like 12 hr playtime at most - $50 to skip that? Yeah no thanks.

LXM6H9H4JH wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
Literally the most useless thing I've seen lol. Lvl 58 gear?? For why???

So the brand spanking new level 60 isn't stuck with level 1 gear? I mean, yes, you'll replace it within minutes, but you still need something to kill those 5 ambulatory trees and 5 bears. And the weapon might well see you all the way to Savage Reach, if you have no luck with the avatar weapon drops.

Yes, I get that calling this high-end gear feels like a joke, but at least it creates a useable character even if you are starting from scratch. And the main value of the deal would seem to be on the Level 60 scroll anyway.

If you want to go after the wording of certain parts of that news post (like calling that Argon Front Gear pack 'high-end'), sure. Feeling ignored on your other concerns, given that this is the thread about a perceived lack of an event, certainly. But why focus on the level 58 gear?

Giving them the lvl 60 questing gear would make it more worth it (could skip the quest and go straight to sabex), but forget about that, if we're going to have a leveling scroll in the first place it should be updated to lvl 65 anyway, where you can straight up get guardian for free. Would make more sense imo, but I forgot that I shouldn't expect of eme to know their own game.
Ammutseba wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
LesbianVi wrote: »
yeah, derailed the thread to Grinding is hard, so yeah, I stand my stance.

Events and loot tables are related. If loot is [filtered] people will want events to fill up the boring grind, it's not derailing in any way.
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/get-tera-s-all-access-pass-while-it-lasts

Meeeeeeerry Xmas everyone ! En masse has seen our cries and delivered another superb event !

Literally the most useless thing I've seen lol. Lvl 58 gear?? For why???

That is pretty much useless. I would rather pay for a month of elite status and level up that way. I guess you could sell the level 60 scroll though.

Who would buy that thing nowadays though.... also unknown.png
LesbianVi wrote: »
yeah, derailed the thread to Grinding is hard, so yeah, I stand my stance.

Events and loot tables are related. If loot is [filtered] people will want events to fill up the boring grind, it's not derailing in any way.
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/get-tera-s-all-access-pass-while-it-lasts

Meeeeeeerry Xmas everyone ! En masse has seen our cries and delivered another superb event !

Literally the most useless thing I've seen lol. Lvl 58 gear?? For why???
LesbianVi wrote: »
Borsuc wrote: »
But who would ever want to actually have fun in TERA? Makes sense to me to just grind for years at IoD to get +9 stormcry and just cause I missed it go back to grinding IoD to earn lots of money for next patch so I can max my gear out again. Then of course back to IoD gotta make more money to max out the next tier's gear, there's no reason to ever actually have fun TERA is my life and job. It's just so fulfilling to max my gear just to kill IoD bams like 5 seconds faster and get to the point where I can just 1 shot them and it's so fast and I can get to my alts faster!


-turns sarcasm off-
I know I don't get it either. With such superb gameplay I wonder why TERA has issues with player retention or why some people see "PUBG everywhere". I swear, it's like kids these days don't know what they're missing, they should be smacking BAMs non stop like your beautiful post explained. True entertainment quality.

Do you even think before talking? Lack of content and grinding for Gear is something else.

And I am sure you people want your gear handed over, you turned a thread about Xmas event to grinding gear thread. So, yeah you want your gear from forums. Also players got till summer to gear up if haven't already, also they were events to get mats before. so yeah, keep asking for Stormcry, EME probably listens to keep the minority happy and poop on the majority.

Again with the "you people". It's not the whole world vs. Vi pls.
Forums exist for feedback, and the feedback tells eme that the current gearing game sucks, not because gear can't be handed over (because it's easy to get it!!!!!!!!!) but because the game got stale too fast too soon and it needs events to survive. If eme doesn't want events then they need to spice up the loot tables otherwise more and more people will keep on quitting because doing 16x iod a day makes you lose brain cells (tested and confirmed).
We're not Koreans, bhs ways don't translate well over here... You can't keep people in this game in the way you would with koreans, they like the 412/iod grind because it's easy to pop into it once you log on in a netcafe but most people here play from their homes and such boring [filtered] s well, boring.
You would think eme would understand that after publishing tera since it's inception :thinking:
LesbianVi wrote: »
admonitu wrote: »
LesbianVi wrote: »
Borsuc wrote: »
LesbianVi wrote: »
Every where on internet, I mean everywhere I see PUGB. Tera is just here only to mil remaining players.
Haven't been for a while and I see all these white knights turn to black knights, can't say I didn't tell you so.

But naaah, "this patch so gud it brought back so many players, game is so active now omg, and it will remain super active because everyone loves slow [filtered] grinding!!!". That's why you hear everywhere about PUBG right? Clearly, [filtered] slow progression is the reason TERA is so popular. /s

People who "have nothing to do" and play to farm are minority, that's why you see this difference in numbers between PUBG and TERA. The rest went to play games like PUBG, which suffers from many technical issues (and hacks) just like TERA (BHS quality you know). Let it sink deep.

Also why events? Events are bad for the economy dude. Stop asking for events ffs and keep farming.

lol, grow up? I was always vocal about things that goes wrong. You just want your stormcry from forums, that's our different. I still will defend EME against trolls like you.

Nobody said they wanted Stormcry from Forums. We'd have to do some grinding for that, and we accept it. It is mainly the RNG wall that keeps a lot of players from progressing at the pace they want. In the past, EME made mats a lot easier to obtain thanks to events and that somewhat alleviated pain from the enchanting aspect of the game for many players. We didn't ask for free deathwrack. And many people agreed that they should not have made crafting mats for Deathwrack available in easier dungeons.

EME doesn't need you to defend them against "trolls" (And of course, we are trolls for complaining. I really wonder who should grow up). I assure you they sleep just fine at night regardless of whether you "defend" them. Our money is what speaks louder than any threads or posts on this forum. People will only complain so much before deciding that it's time to just quit and move to another game and this is what should really be alarming to all of us.

The minute he appears, crying over grind starts. so yeah, some want their gear from forums.

Vi, I don't think anyone (most people at least) wants gear handed over. It's pretty easy to get +9 after all. The real problem lies in the fact of what you have to do to get that gear (mindlessly grind low tier dungeons and iod) instead of being able to get 200 golden talents per, let's say 2 rkem runs or get them after p3-p4 etc. It's not hard to get top tier gear it's just mind numbingly boring is all.
Why does a player in great gear have to do low tiers to get silver talents? It feels like a punch in the face after you've done hard content, and sure it's nice to relax while doing easy dungeons every once in a while but after a certain period of time (a month or two) it makes you lose interest in the game.
Nobody wants events that handle you 3 elemental essences per one tr run, but golden/silver talents dropping from other sources? Hell yeah count me in.
Interest in this game has been dwindling for many people I know because of how boring and stupid it has become.
> @CornishRex said:
> You should have received a box, and upon opening the box you'd get the items listed in the post. Sure you didn't throw it away or smth?

I do not believe so. =\

I for sure have not received the items in the list above. So basically, if I am understanding correctly, you are supposed to receive a box in item claim at the beginning, open it, then as you level up you receive boxes with these itemsas you go along? If I would have know better, I would have contacted at the beginning instead of after completely leveling up. Thanks again for your help everyone!

Oh that sucks.. I guess support is the way to go then, good luck.
I wish I could get into a party in 3-4 min as a healer. Multiple times this patch if I dared to try to ims (stupid I know) it would take me 10+ mins on both tank and healer.
I recommend using lfg, it helps!
You should have received a box, and upon opening the box you'd get the items listed in the post. Sure you didn't throw it away or smth?
Xaruki wrote: »
where the hell is the logic to create so many characters on all servers. You sit 24 hours on the terra and where the point is you are playing in 90% of the cases for 1-2 characters

For kami? I'mma guess free bank space :)
Naru2008 wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »

Counterpoint is just spreading misinfo at this point, you cannot teleport to far away locations anymore without server approving it and detecting it, that has been patched a while ago, and as far as I was aware a very small number of people actually exploited the boxes thing so there's no way they're canceling the event because of that. A lot of teleport exploits have been eradicated with that and I don't wan't to go into detail because forum rules.

You're the one helping spread misinformation. :/

Am I? The way boxes spawn was changed so that you can't go under the map anymore to exploit it because a box despawns after a certain amount of time, teleports were patched etc. Saying eme won't do a blue box event cause scary exploits is just creating a boogeyman to cover for their own incompetence. Especially when most of the said exploits have been patched already... Where's the misinfo?
Also the teleport exploit has been patched a while ago and is now server side and easily detectable so no I don't think you can exploit the box event anymore without being caught. @counterpoint mentioned this exploit like 5+ times while forgetting this fact very conveniently : )
Because I wasn't talking about a teleport exploit.

But it's related to it, no? People teleporting to the nearest box is the only exploit that was widespread enough for eme to be like "oops too sorry guys no more box events B)".
It's a bug. Mystics got autolockon and increased range on their volley of curses, lockon heal and cleanse. It should be getting fixed around january according to ktera patchnotes.
Mystics will still stay superior healers after the nerf as their crit aura and contagion is more favoured by all classes.
Like I said it doesn't matter if it was patched they can't be 100% sure that an issue like that wouldn't pop up again and it's obviously an issue if it happened even once. Either way, it's still a problem if these programs can cause massive issues like that and need to be addressed when they don't seem to be. Since I mean it can't be that hard to turn this event on since they have done this like 7-15+ times in the past couple years, so it's gotta be something preventing them from making the same event as always. I can't even imagine BHS preventing this event either since well again they have allowed it with such [filtered] rewards so many times before why would this year/time be the time they stopped it.

As for RMHM it seemed to be based around proxy since it was only possible by certain people and certain classes, it wasn't done in every group and wasn't extremely easy like the last boss glitch that every single group did. So, it seems like it was the result of some program or the community just happened to keep one glitch under wraps and not common knowledge? which seems pretty unlikely, but that's getting off topic and either way these programs are still a massive issue and getting worse every patch.

Nothing is 100% sure that it's not exploitable in any game ever, it's silly reasoning imo, no systems are perfect in security. They already have been addressed though in may and that didn't go so well...
I truly think it's the lack of staff, I mean come one there's just one guy working on tera, can't expect much from him.

It was possible by classes that have de-aggro skills like priest/archer. Proxy was barely widespread at that time yet a lot of people were using the glitch afaik so the two weren't related.
Also I'd say exploits are getting less commonplace lately as the proxy devs themselves are trying to prevent it.

Buuut we're going offtopic here so I'll stop, cheers o/
Well really I don't think it matters if they fixed it or not players will find a way for third-party programs to abuse something and that's the point being made, these programs are toxic and creating more problems than they are "fixing" for the players. It's making them scared to do any event because of abuse and glitches within their system, and without them cracking down and forcing players to stop using them through either breaking their functionality or some other method I don't see these problems getting better.

As for the shield and DPS elitist mentality, I could care less about the meter itself but it's getting to the point where these programs are telling you what mechanic and attack is coming instead of needing to learn the mechanics and it completely ruined RKHM for me. I don't even use the program but when 3-4 of the other people are using it and basically knowing where the mechanic safe point is what's the point in learning it yourself? It's a joke that the game that is based on learning how and when to dodge is being automated to such a large extent that I wouldn't be shocked if there isn't already a program that could literally clear RKHM FOR YOU instead of having to actually play. Not to mention other issues that come up with these programs that can flat out skip bosses (RMHM) and other glitches that keep coming up, it's obvious the players behind these programs aren't going to stop at just helping players.

So, if these are being so negative to the experience why are BHS and EME just okay with it being allowed and turning the blind eye to people using these programs? I understand you can't ban the people using them cause literally everyone is but why not try and ruin their functionality and make it as hard as possible to run them instead of basically encouraging their use at this point?

"Making them scared to do an event" No it's not, those are counterpoints words and he's not an eme employee, to add to that that's just misinfo cause like I said, that was patched and should be impossible to do. Those are juts silly excuses they use for their own laziness and lack of creativity and staff.
I agree that the things telling you mechanics are pretty bad.
No program let you skip rmh, that exploit was doable completely without proxy or ANY third party programs fyi. It's a game glitch that was possible back in 2015 as well, where you could jump under the map and skip first two bosses in channelworks lmao.
You're mixing game glitches/bugs with third party programs hue
they make the only events they like doing impossible

Counterpoint is just spreading misinfo at this point, you cannot teleport to far away locations anymore without server approving it and detecting it, that has been patched a while ago, and as far as I was aware a very small number of people actually exploited the boxes thing so there's no way they're canceling the event because of that. A lot of teleport exploits have been eradicated with that and I don't wan't to go into detail because forum rules.
they make the community elitist because if you aren't matching the top tier DPS you aren't worth having in the group.

You can thank BHS and BHS only for that. They're the one that made the shield in rkem extremely hard to break unless you have really good dps in your party. Plus after you've done every type content and geared up, the only thing you can do is get better with dpsing, taking that away from the players would just be the final nail in the coffin.
Uptown wrote: »
Cross-server lfg doesn't really address the issue imo, it's the feeling you get when you logon and your friends list is 3/80 and highwatch is deserted, and there's nothing on broker, and global is silent for hours at a time. When you've been playing for years, and you login and assume you're in the wrong channel because there's only two people at the popular brokers, it's just a bad feeling. Seeing every city completely deserted like that just makes me want to log off again.
That said, server merge doesn't really address the issue either - tera has always had problems with player retention and NA especially has done very little to combat that. Of course people are going to leave the game for whatever reason, but MMO's rely entirely on new players joining to keep them going. If new players log in and ask a question and get troll responses or no responses at all and a google search gives them answers from 2013 that are wrong, or a broken wiki, why would anyone stay? Tera's appeal traditionally was late-game party dungeons with a high skill cap, but right now most new players are quitting before they ever see the end-game dungeons because they're using four pounding crystals and getting kicked from RG. There's not even really any guilds which will accept new players anymore, since they pretty much all merged or disbanded after HH came out and people needed guilds to clear it. Most guilds (and lfg's, for that matter) will instantly decline someone who's in twistshard gear or unskilled in certain dungeons. People would rather sit around mocking players who are trying to learn about the game than help those players, so those new players just leave, because what kind of masochist would stay for the abuse that is starting to play tera in 2017?

My suggestion for making the servers come back to life? Make some actual helpful guides that are accessible and visible to new players and don't require knowledge of the game to read. New players join all the time, and are pretty much just told "lol game's dead go home noob." That's the real problem here. Maybe a server merge would make the game feel more active for awhile, maybe cross-server lfg would make lfgs go faster for awhile, but neither addresses the real problem - more people are leaving than staying.

I agree with what you have said.. I've been thinking for the longest time that they should just remove the crystal slots on gear all together, all it does is cause problems for new players.

Well I edited the comment once and now it disappeared so time to make another comment :weary:

Crystals are a fine system imo, all it takes for a new person is to google [insert class here] guide and the first result will have the proper crystal setup somewhere in it.
I think the welcome message gives you a proper crystal setup as well when you're new?
Casualizing the game even further because players are too lazy and dumb is the lazy way out.
I think the game itself should highlight the importance of crystals more and it would be a problem solved, because new players generally don't understand the big difference proper crystals and ROLLS make. I've been running into tons of people in stormcry that have crit factor rolls like holy hell, is it so hard to look up a guide??
Honestly I don't recall the exploit being widespread enough for it to warrant eme to stop making box events. That's just an excuse imo.
I think I've seen hm... two gifs of people teleporting to the boxes? And I myself spent a lot of time hunting boxes during anniversary event yet I've seen 0 people exploiting.
Also the teleport exploit has been patched a while ago and is now server side and easily detectable so no I don't think you can exploit the box event anymore without being caught. @counterpoint mentioned this exploit like 5+ times while forgetting this fact very conveniently : )
7D6HAXWL3X wrote: »
stop calling brawlers a tank, they are front crit dps with a block..

They have enrage, they have an endurance debuff and they hold aggro, they're a tank. They rely on keeping aggro by doing damage similarly to warriors who can output a lot of dps when in defense stance.
Lancers do pretty high numbers these days you could call them a front dps as well.
Also yes they're faceroll and easy to play but that doesn't make them any less of a tank lmao
Tbh I feel brawler playstyle got a lot less selfish after the removal of cooldown on gf because you don't have to autistically stick to the face of the boss and eat damage/ignore mechs/keep him in an unfavourable position for the dps in order to prevent rage from falling down.
That was the main reason that made them so annoying to play with as healer or dps because brawlers had to focus so much on themselves as a core mechanic of their class. Which is silly, for a tank.
Yeah brawlers aren't as good as lancer but they do the job of a tank just as well, if only it wasn't for the crazy desync shenanigans of course. The amount of times I've felt embarrassed for turning the boss around because of haymaker or literally any other skill that pushes me forward (aka 50% of brawler skills) is too high.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Reading this thread I wonder if some people have any friends in real life, familly, important matters to attend or something of relevance at all, because being bitter because a game doesn't have a christmass event only show how sad real life is for some people.

Your post comes off as extremely unnecessary and condescending.
Personally I'll go do my family business, have a nice Christmas lunch, open presents etc. After the whole thing's over, at the end of the day, I might feel like logging on for an hour or two or maybe even the day after. I'll log on and talk to my guildies about how their Christmas went, what they did, what the got and what they gave, why not do that while hunting some santas ingame?
Come on dude, can you not be an [filtered] for one day of the year when everyone's supposed to be nice?
I don't think people are whiny or extremely bitter. Just disappointed that their favourite game (where, coincidentally, a lot of their online friends reside) is being abandoned and destroyed by an incompetent company. You don't have to insult others for being a bit sad.
Eh it's all rng. I do ghillie only 8 times a day yet I've seen a diamond drop in the last 2 weeks. I don't get emeralds as often as before though so who knows.
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
I always thought that Counterpoint works for En Masse because there was no other explanation as of why he would relentlessly defend it for years and even at this point in time when it is clear as crystal water that En Masse is messing with Tera PC on NA not really giving too much care about the gameplay.

As much as I disagree with counterpoint almost all the time I can't say he always defends and backs up eme 100%, I just think he likes present an alternative point of view that most don't bother to think about or consider and he puts in much more effort into these forums and community than eme does.
No @counterpoint im not bored. And not soon will be. I wasnt bored with another game for around 10 years. Im rp-er and always will find what to do, So i have 8 more to play to get bored. People are bored if you read what i wrote. And i heard this many time from diff players last two weeks.
And no im not wrapping this all into "tera is dying". If you dont see whats happening then im very sorry over you and have nothing else to say.
Seems im wrong and we have amazing, wonderful and interesting events involving gameolay, nice population, life is going and cities are full of players, the zones are full too, full lfg and people are joining our region and joining. Eu and ru is meh in compare! Hurray!

as usual, eme thinks everything is fine and were saying nonsense.
think what you want. Just pity that such a wonderful world and society was destroyed by couple of ppl that evrn dont see enough well.
dont bother to respond, its totally not worth. Have good holidays @counterpoint , youre the only eme guy i have sympathy to.
amen.

The worst part is counterpoint doesn't even work for eme (besides being in the player council) yet he does their job better than what they could ever dream of. Kinda sad.
Idgi, you got accused of memeslashing and now you're defending yourself on the forums? Doesn't that just make it more suspicious B)
There's an official eme discord and tera subreddit discord.

Official eme - https://discord.gg/MXdffP
Tera subreddit - https://discord.gg/BcmQ3T

I like the subreddit one more because it's more tera organised and it doesn't go down all the time on phone, eme one is always inaccessible to me from my phone for some reason.
I'm pretty sure they lowered the requirement a long time ago too, cause back when I first got champion on my warrior it took almost every single achievement. Then when FIHM came out I believe it was lowered to like 85 or 90% and even was so easy that my priest got champion just doing a few like 2-3 of the world boss achievements. So, it's not 95% anymore and it's extremely easy to get champion if you just do the easy ones and run through lower dungeons. I even skipped a full patch and came back and my warrior never lost champion without doing any of the PVP achievements and none of the HH ones, so it's not that hard to keep or get it at all.

I lost my champ with the arrival or rk9 and it took me quite a while to get because I didn't have lkh cheevos (skipped that patch) or scn cheevos (I just finished gearing when scn was still here and somehow I didn't bother running it). But if I had those then yeah I wouldn't have lost it either.
All in all I think champ is easier to get nowadays because world bosses don't have to be killed billion times to get it and they made some low level ones simpler to get.
Pleyadinus wrote: »
LOL thanks a lot for believe I'm a pro? player (I never said that). You make my ego bigger, thanks a lot B)

Am I being trolled. ._.
Pls read what I said twice.
Pleyadinus wrote: »
Oh [filtered] I got what's the problem: everything was wrong, everything has changed... Healers need to use keen etchs and dps/tank classes need to use energetic etchs.

Now I get it... Thanks a lot for show me I am all wrong.

(Being sarcastic :# )

What?!? But yes things have changed, you can stack a lot of crit with accessories these days and double keen etchings would be a waste on some classes.
Meta changes dude, you yourself admitted to not being a pro player so I don't know why you're trying to act like a know it all?
Healers, tanks and dps use energetic etchings. Some dps classes can go with 1 pumped or 1 keen etching depending on what they need. Some classes can still go double keen if they haven't hit their crit cap or don't have it.
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