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@Fezoh hi heres my list '^' ( gear difference matters in ow/fwc but eh )
Sorc: Minks Icha Tooi ( shouldn't add an additional name, 4th/5th/6th sorc are not even close to them, miles below)
Brawler ( Aveon Lucky ) ( haha don't add names before spin nerf)
Lancer ( Pokedex General Apex )
Archer ( Suntail ( deceased) Xilian ( deceased) Tyler ( recently deceased)
Gunner ( A..M (on break, dk when is return) Shot(deceased) ( Who tf is ROBV compared to those 2 OMEGALUL)
Berserker ( Painwheel, Koool, Wolf) ( current active zerkerwise I would add sessh, but he isn't on the same level as pain nor koool, closer than most)
Slayer Coool Shiba( I haven't seen him shine too hard in the limited 3s game I had with him (against or same team) but hes good nonetheless, Porscia
Valkyrie (OMEGALUL) I haven't seen winter play recently/dk whose alt is that, outside of him and numb(deceased) Luxrelia has been the most consistent in 3s/fwc/ow , but doing well at this class doesn't really matter either way.
Reaper Add numb and whoever else you want up to brexa, none of them plays anymore(deceased/hehe)
Warrior noone really shines atm compared to people from the past, add whoever you want(Aveon's warrior omegalul)
Ninja Numbnips(deceased) noone has reached anywhere near his level/presence
Healers: get a pocket and call them your best hehe ( too lazy to add, as long as they have a brain and do their job we good)
I used Palochi's order as a reference for players that I don't really know about.

Valkyrie - Luxrelia > Fansub = Behemoth
- I think Lux is a bit better than the other Valks. Numbnips got banned, otherwise he'd be first.

Sorcerer - Icha = Minks > Tooi > Poste = Merlinsbeer > Zing
- I think overall, Icha and Minks are better than Tooi if we include all parts of PvP (FWC, dueling). I agree that 3s shouldn't be the only thing that differentiates good and bad players. It's just a general trend that the best 3s players are the best PvPers in general. The difference between these players is super negligible.

Warrior - Same > Kyru
- All good active warriors are dead. I didn't bother changing Palochi's order cuz I don't care.

Archer - Tyler > Napti > Rafae > Abdoh
- All good active archers are gone. Xilian kinda plays, and if he can be considered active, he will be #1. Right now Tyler is the best and the rest doesn't really matter.

Reaper - Lewing > Myonz > Peri > Freeform = Tyler > Nouri = Seanpie
- Lewing is the best active right now ever since Numbnips got banned. Everyone else is just your typical average reaper.

Brawler - Aveon > Omaewamoushindeiru
- Aveon, then Alan. The rest are typical average brawlers that don't really differentiate themselves.

Mystic - Saturn > Amy > Helette > Wangu
- The other actual "best" Mystic players also play Priest and don't play Mystic enough to be considered on this list (ex. Shiba's mystic).

Priest - Meido > Saturn > Wes > Jackie >= Life > Slime > Aroo
- I'm gonna have to use be biased towards 3s players here.

Lancer - Pokedex > General > Blur
- I agree.

Gunner - Godrjsdnd > A.M > Arnetra
- Honestly, Robv probably should be in somewhere but I'm not sure. It's hard to differentiate Gunners. All I know is Bubble can find success in it in 3s.

Berserker - Painwheel > Spookyz > Coool
- Painwheel and everyone else. After Painwheel, I don't know who else is well-rounded in 3s, dueling, and FWC, so I just left Palochi's ordering here.

Slayer - Coool > Shiba > Porscia > Buubcheck
- There are some decent slayers outside of MT like Garen, but I don't know if he's active or not and don't know how he compares. Shiba is by far the best 3s slayer because he has so much experience, but I think Coool is better at dueling and they would probably have the same impact in FWC. Outside of that, I guess Porscia and I left Buubcheck in there because

Ninja - Xuy/Zuxu > Raysu > Ratings
- I'll just keep this order since people don't seem to disagree. Numbnips would be #1 if he wasn't banned.
So you're heated over my list because of 4~5 ppl you don't agree with out of everyone
Interesting
Grats for knowing my old name also, makes me wonder who you are because I can't think of anyone from CH at that time who is someone now besides Puri
As I said idk FF ppl anymore and I don't do 3's, ever since VM6 actually because there are too many ppl as salty as you in there for me to enjoy it. So idk most big names for 3's-only nowadays.
3's is the smallest community out of the already smaller community, and it's also just 3v3. Doesn't say much about your 1v1 or mass ability so basing skill only on that shouldn't be a thing imo.
Also I don't afk anymore after I moved to MT if it concerns you, if you have interest in me you can just ask c':
If the problems in my list for you is lacking FF ppl and placing like 4 ppl that in your opinion shouldn't be there, I'm pretty okay with it. But it seems like you aren't lol
Oh bleep I forgot what year it is
Yeah if you're worried about exp players ganking you could give a big buff like in guardian missions to players that get attacked by flagged players because the person ganking inevitably has the very best equipment that can be worn and maybe out the gate restrict the level you can attack as a flagged player to 2 levels below you into like level 30 and increase it to 4 at 40 6 levels below, 50 10 levels below, 60 15...
All the while a player that gets attacked automatically gets a PvP only buff that brings them above the stat of the aggressor...
A level 30 shouldn't be allowed to attack a level 20 when a level 30 could have easily have twice the amount of gameplay under their belt

Maybe assign high level players with good reputation as capable of being summoned...
Something like in the maze (Triwizard tournament) in Harry Potter and the goblet of fire where they can send up sparks with their wand and aide will be sent.

/location into glowballs may suffice but it's hard to type an explanation while you're getting ganked.
An item could be given like a firesnap. Press that and maybe there's a summon on a designated protector of sorts... With a delay naturally to allow for the kill to happen if the player attacking is efficient.

Even if the person crying for help does die they can be ressed by someone friendly and get help bc Tera has a great community and it'd be bad to have to res in a town all alone and feel neglected
AbstractCH wrote: »
The necro is real.

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The necro is real.
PVP ? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 02/08/2018, 12:29 AM papy10k
Hello o/ I happened to notice people mentioning that FF isn't fun because of no competition. Well you are in luck! MT is always happy to have more competition! Everyone is welcome!! :D

they wont come to MT again, their remaining members are in the enemy guild now.
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 02/07/2018, 03:08 PM Pumpedd
Arnetra wrote: »


You're welcome to post whatever you have, I'd love to see it. I don't recall seeing 8 people from Turn Up go down to a Valor Balders, maybe it happened. But I think it may have just been the Turn Up gunners giving Valor PTSD though, there's a reason Pumped is the biggest backer of the "gunners are the most OP mass pvp class" opinion whenever that discussion comes up.

testing
Arnetra wrote: »

Also fair play to Coool and Master in the pvp tournament, but I don't really think that was anyone's best play, I had ~7fps at the last location, I can't imagine even if you had a decent computer you'd have playable frames in that situation, if you watch the video you'll see people missing free [filtered] because of that even at the earlier rounds.

While I'm here:

https://imgur.com/TmydZol



Lets see if I did this right ( quote wise )
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 02/06/2018, 05:06 PM Pumpedd
I mean our old guild name is Heaven so it only makes sense.
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 02/05/2018, 05:57 PM Pumpedd
sorry that we're actually 100% incapable of doing skyring so heres videos of owpvp, truthfully we are not up to your intellectual, high-skilled level of gameplay.

I accept your apology, just dont do it again.
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 02/05/2018, 04:29 PM Pumpedd
Arooused wrote: »

Your stalker skills are dwindling. Thats not me.
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 02/05/2018, 12:24 AM Pumpedd
Why do you still come to the forums just to bash people who still play or bash a game some people still enjoy?

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 PVP Vid Thread (?) 02/04/2018, 09:54 PM Pumpedd
Games only die when people leave them.

Welcome back, hope more people come back to enjoy this game.

If thats the case then the games dead.
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 02/04/2018, 06:43 PM Pumpedd
Blurberry wrote: »
just made this coming back. spam posting it b/c im a loser.


chill out https://i.imgur.com/T8WYrsW.png

games dead
Dont ask dumb stuff like this. People will list themselves/ not people they hate / their best friends.

For 1v1 Brawler has more winning matchups than Valk does.

For Mass PvP both are extremely good but I think valks are considerably more dangerous. If a mystic lands a regress and takes away all kaias/anti stags then both Valk and Brawler can by themself, win you a raid fight.
well i for one just came back to this game from years ago, i remeber how much fun i had sunk into level new toons PKing all the way up and down from the second i could always having Pk flag on... got it again to see the ONLY pvp servers are pvp65. waste of an hour installing this. cant pk while leveling = no fun tbh PK and starting world fights was the ONLY fun part of this game to me, huge disappointment that a flat out PvP server doesnt exist
Valks are overpowered though. The backstab nerf made it a buff in some situations because if the enemy has kaia or rally you root them instead now.

Not going into detail but i also think valks are actually decent in 1v1, gunners warrior zerker sorc (since you cant cancel traps anymore) ninja reaper brawler all beat valk in 1v1 though. It's really just mass pvp and solo skyring in which they shine.
Blurberry wrote: »
Azuriela wrote: »

amen BROTHER

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 PVP Vid Thread (?) 12/31/2017, 05:16 AM Eclipse555
wow, just wow.
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 12/31/2017, 05:16 AM Eclipse555
wow, just wow
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 12/31/2017, 05:16 AM Eclipse555
wow, just wow
Edomdrah wrote: »
6. Not a single person I ran into in my Tera experience didn't choose to camp a safezone over 1v1ing me when I KoSed em. Yourself included.


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Piltover wrote: »
I wonder if they actually look at the feedback from the community when it comes to BG jackpot rewards.

No.

Edit:
How are you able to give a schedule for December 1+ at 7th?
Well those rewards are terrible. sigh
hellno wrote: »
I came into the patch without 449 ilvl and while it sucked going into FW with equalization gear I put up with it. I slowly gathered up enough materials and gems to level and enchant my gear to 449 which I just reached a few days ago. Coming into the patch I thought to myself why was the ilvl requirement so high? But now I know the intent behind it. This is a privilege that you should EARN and not simply get handed to you. People who have 449 put in a lot of time and money into their gear. Honestly if I can run these bgs and save up the mats to get my gear where it needs to be then why can't you? or anyone for that matter? Ultimately, at this point I would be pissed to hear that I had to go through the grind of gathering materials including the expense of gold to get my gear to 449, and then it's changed and basically handed out to folks who didn't put in the same effort.

What are they handing out???? please for [filtered] sake get off your high horse and use your brain. You want people to use WORSE GEAR while they work there way up to the required ilvl. How is using your own gear an earned privilege. you already worked for the damn gear, its already better than the equalized crap you get.

How are people on these forums so damn stupid

So to rectify the issue you want them to lower the ilvl gear requirement so that more people can use their own gear? What about the folks who had to grind to get their gear to the level requirement to free themselves of equalization gear already? The same thing that YOU can do yourself! How would that be fair that they lower it now after the fact?

Or are you wanting them to improve the equalization gear? Frankly, I don't see anything wrong with the current equalization gear. I don't understand where you're getting this idea that it's completely garbage. Every other battleground drops your ilvl down significantly more than FW. In FW when I was still in equalization gear my heals were criting for 81k which is only 10-15k short of what I get now when I am in my 449 ilvl gear. When I am in Corsairs my heals are around 25-35k in equalization gear which is considerably lower than FW. FW equalization gear is pretty damn good already. You're never going to get equalization gear that's on par with your own gear that's the whole point of having equalization gear to begin with!!! LOL

So you want the gear in FW to be almost on par with the 449 ilvl gear? NOT going to happen. This set up is it not intended to be "balanced" .. because if that was their intention they would have never enabled this feature of using your own gear. They knew when introducing this feature there would be a tip in the scale and that people using their own gear would be stronger than using equalization gear making it unbalanced. What you want is it to be balanced and improved, but if they improve it any more than it already is they may as well allow everyone to use their own gear in FW. Any improvement would put equalization gear on the same strength level as 449 gear. Something you're not understanding..

you are seriously one of the dumbest person I know. You want PVP to be more unbalance for EQ just because they didnt fix it before you worked your way up to ilvl449? entilted much. seriously idiot pvp is about fun and making it more unbalanced is not fun.

Just look at these. What kind of idiot can defend this difference
EQ:
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My Gear:
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I lose 6% CDR + 10% CDR on kaias, 20% stun reduction, 33K HP, 41 crit resist
Khatarsis wrote: »
For 7% better than equalized i would not bother and just get my item level straight to 449. You may say that you have that 7% but that just might be lost since you counted the daylight jewelry, ravine which is the equalized gear is way better, it's on par with entropy so it evens out.
Instead of lowering the item level required for the canyon it just might be a good idea to slightly buff the equalized gear, not by much so your 7% no longer matters.
Even so, you had a lot of time to profit from this event, which was quite good, hands down for this one and the initiative to help the kids in need !

the 7% doesnt include the extra rolls you have with your gear. You have about 60K more HP on top of that 7% extra defense! Also CDR rolls are huge on healers and the EQ doesnt have anywhere near the amount I have on my +0 SC. Please inform yourself a bit more before making dumb suggestions like leaving things as is. Also as you can see from the post before yours not even +2 SC gets you the needed ilvl. Also Keep in mind that enchanting your weapon as a healer is pretty much pointless unless you are going for +7-9, which really isnt worth the money unless that is the absolute only class you play and you dont have anything else better to do with your money
Oops..I think my original comment has been removed due to too many edit of typos...let me try to type it again.

I don't like to compare KTERA and NA TERA, but for this issue, I would like to point out how KTERA CS was(and is) going on. Basically, all the KTERA patches come to NA TERA, and most of the patches are based on KTERA player's play style, not NA-localized patches based on our play style.
And I still play KTERA quite often so this comparison is not that wrong.

In KTERA, when people get in CS match, the first thing they do is "inspecting" each other. When they find a player(s) with PVE or [filtered] crystals, people notice their name in raid chat, and people will kick those people in 10-20 sec, really quickly. And they will get in-progress members before the match begins, or as soon as the match begins.

And KTERA leader's order is very clear. They normally organize their raid according to the role. and orders like;

Party 1 do XXX, Party 2 do YYY, all others do ZZZ.
Same thing in the middle of the match. Party 1 go Left Ladder, others focus inner gate..something like this.


It is not like "3-1-3 inner, cap mid, go pvp" who are in 3-1-3 and who else go outside for pvp? This unclear order is one of the things that CS goes bad.
And sometimes, leader asks Powerful vyrsks for their team in order to break the gates quickly when they will not focus on pvp (powerful vyrsks still work in PVP somewhat).


Ok, well, so the match begins. In KTERA, people mostly follow leader's order. Of course, sometimes, they also have some retards who do not follow the order. If it happens, all other people start blaming the retards and [filtered] talk to them and, eventually, kick the retards in next round. Sometimes, people post those retards' name with the evidence(screenshot) of how they did in CS on Inven forum. Inven is not the official KTERA forum. and there is no restriction to call out player's name due to their fault. So all pleyers are kind of being forced to follow the order. Well, I would say this is kind of Korean culture, and I am not saying whether it is right thing to do or too harsh for players as they are forced to follow.


Anyway, so before the gate HP patch in KTERA, outger gate was destroyed really quickly. Oftenly, it is destroyed as soon as(or even before) the defending team reaches to the outer gate for PVP. Same thing for inner gate. So the most KTERA CS game is just a battle bettwen inside and outside of the inner entrance (gate is already down) like a seige.
This is why there was a patch for the gate HP in KTERA.
But anyway, the gate HP patch came to NA TERA as usual, and now it became a little bit harder to break the gates for KTERA, but became too much harder to break it for NA TERA. WHY?

When you enter a CS match, try to inspect other members. You will definitely find at least 2-3 people who use wrong/[filtered] crystal, and will see lots of people who do not follow the leader's order at the beginning. Well, I would say it is a diferent play style, but every patch we have got is just based on KTERA playstyle.

But as other people said above, if your team has a problem with breaking the gate, there must be something wrong on your team. As long as all members have correct crystals, have an idea of their role, and follow the order, there will be no problem for, at least, breaking the gate.
Jarecks wrote: »
4 Guys 1 brawler afk = 3 vs 15 Yikes elite pvp lmao http://plays.tv/video/59a8a7633506b85678/lighting-em-up

this video is straight savage.
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 09/06/2017, 02:32 AM Pumpedd
AK7YX5PKG7 wrote: »
So? MT pvp more hype than the dead FF server

Read.
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 09/06/2017, 12:14 AM Pumpedd
glad to see yikes is the kings of mt imagine transfering ur whole guild to compete teaming up with manifest and STILL LOSING

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Idk why Pumped keeps talking:
• Rerolls to valk from lancer to be relevant despite his constant 4 hour videos of him streaming TEAM skyring for the last month ON PRIEST <<<< in which he can supply about 4 links to 3-4 hour videos of priest team skyring each.
• Has a guild that summons on top of buildings in CU but pumped gkicked the person that did it and even banned them from the discord so its forgivable
• Has a guild that abuses Divine Wrath glitch ( Taught by someone thats in Yikes )
• Proof of 5+ members injecting in PvP which is stupid for me to point out because pumped has 4-5 screenshots of my guildies injecting too and pumped even messaged me at one point saying my guildie was injecting and for him to move his gear and i respect him for that.
• Took 4+ months to win his first CU which is understandable considering he came back to the game in renegade and started a guild brand new at one point.
• About 12 members left to MT? In which Pumped stated multiple times to go have fun and encouraged it.
• Didnt want to participate in getting zerged by desync and tu so didnt declare which is very understandable
Pm if you want proof of any of the mentioned points.

And before you say it:
• I dont queue skyring.
• I messaged pumped on discord trying to act nice but talk [filtered] in area chat because attention
• I left my guild when they needed me
• I vape and for some reason this is relevent information to a forum topic
• I have a double chin that nobody was even talking about but ok lol.
• I'm emotional and im sure at this point we can all see that
• I'm an average sorc at best.

Fixed it for you.

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Persephae wrote: »
Rulford wrote: »
Pumpedd wrote: »
Rulford wrote: »
Including wins when you're in an alliance with everyone on FF except hellspawns isn't really special

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Did you just compare fraywind ratings.

Did you compare 3s ratings with both players names cropped out?

Didnt you just post a video of a discord chat with someones named cropped out????????

:21 in your video you JUST posted.

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Also they hid the name but the person who said that was Poofcat from Desync. Yes you guessed it. The person who accused me of injecting memeslash is someone whos in an enemy guild.

Wow shocker

Rulford wrote: »
Including wins when you're in an alliance with everyone on FF except hellspawns isn't really special

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Did you just compare fraywind ratings.
Rulford wrote: »
Pumpedd wrote: »


Heres this one too.

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Also i dont suggest including your ally guild winning too. Makes beating 2 guilds with 1 a whole lot sweeter :]
Coolkicl wrote: »
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dont forget this one!!

I like how No Name took their spot as rank 3 the name fits



Heres this one too.

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Pumpedd wrote: »
ah another loss for yikes maybe turn up can bring more transfers over to compete for team skyring and stop dodging. Desync can join in too will 5 guilds never queue against team skyring ? find out next week!!

lmao when people are so delusional they think queing team 3s means anything you get nothing from there TY FOR THE TIER 1 GUILD FUNDS

Thanks for the guild funds too.

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 PVP Vid Thread (?) 09/04/2017, 10:32 PM Pumpedd
xoBarb wrote: »


OWPVP + 9/2/17 CU Yikes PoV

hi

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just wanted to put that there
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 09/04/2017, 10:17 PM Pumpedd
Coolkicl wrote: »

''[filtered] players''
ah another loss for yikes maybe turn up can bring more transfers over to compete for team skyring and stop dodging. Desync can join in too will 5 guilds never queue against team skyring ? find out next week!!

Pumpedd wrote: »
xoBarb wrote: »
A new viewer won't find giga into ROA/FB any more skillful than DH into giga into XX

Straight up banning classes is pretty moronic when a simple class limit i.e 1 non legacy per 3s / 5 non legacy per FWC would suffice.






If we banned new classes from tournaments you wouldnt be able to participate because you can only play gunner.


>queues brawler valk but complains about every else :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

When?
Pumpedd wrote: »
Make Fraywind tournament and skyring tournament.

Do not allow reapers valks gunners ninjas or brawlers.

End of story

but they are part of the game
 PVP Vid Thread (?) 08/12/2017, 05:03 PM Pumpedd
The sound effects make this great LOL

But for real, it's sad to see how prevalent these modules have become in the community. It really has ruined a lot of aspects of the game :/ feelscheatingman

I qued with a random healer for team 3s a while ago and she got slept through GS. idk if thats normal
 Reapers... 08/11/2017, 02:23 PM N3PF5NGPD6
Pages wrote: »
Reapers are currently in a very weak place in PVE,

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HAHAHAHA OMG I CANT STOP LAUGH eks dee

https://ibb.co/kRq17F

this rank 1 reaper dps is higher than ....... rank 1 archer/sorc/warr/gunner/slayer/ninja and almost equal to warrior ...... reaper weak hmmmmmmmmmm.... nice joke :DDD
HOLY peri is a beast
@ King.Leonidas.

imgur.com/3rLROnI

First off, let me start by saying "well played", sorta.....
I do have one question though, i'm curious how much time it took you and your spy to acquire all 154 kills?? I don't even care who it is..

You're too scared to even set foot in HighWatch vs our small undergeared guild so instead you stoop this low? Comical really, it's our first GVG so grats on your first win i guess, do you even win anything? Any rankings?

Anyways. in our book, its 9 vs 3... cheers..

**Boy i hope other guilds on MT aren't chickenshits like the Spartan Alliance... We're not pros by any means and dont mind losing if there were actual fights, just looking to have some fun GVG fighting.. Hit us up for some GVG fun people! Trash that [filtered] guild..





PM Blxr if you ever want some PvP. Yikes would be down for some 5v5s, 10v10s, etc!
@ King.Leonidas.

imgur.com/3rLROnI

First off, let me start by saying "well played", sorta.....
I do have one question though, i'm curious how much time it took you and your spy to acquire all 154 kills?? I don't even care who it is..

You're too scared to even set foot in HighWatch vs our small undergeared guild so instead you stoop this low? Comical really, it's our first GVG so grats on your first win i guess, do you even win anything? Any rankings?

Anyways. in our book, its 9 vs 3... cheers..

**Boy i hope other guilds on MT aren't chickenshits like the Spartan Alliance... We're not pros by any means and dont mind losing if there were actual fights, just looking to have some fun GVG fighting.. Hit us up for some GVG fun people! Trash that [filtered] guild..





LancerJiva wrote: »
Halrath wrote: »
The talismans have been removed from July's BG jackpots to allow us to use a new event as a means of distributing them. This change is by no means permanent, but it is is a part of our plan for this month. We will evaluate things at the end of July and that will inform our plans for August.

So you say here that there is supposed to be a new event by means of having Talisman as a reward. This post was almost a month ago and no word on said event, which means you lied to our faces.

Where is this so called event that you guys had planned for the Talisman as a possible reward? Sounds like a crock of bs to me. Battlegrounds don't even pop now. Great job! -slow clap-

We will see if Talisman are back in the reward pool for August.

There were two events in July that awarded extra talismans, the double drop event and the dungeon mentoring event.

Halrath said the product team would evaluate at the end of July, and now it's the end of July and they will evaluate ways to get more talismans out there. I get that you want talismans... badly. And that you want them from PvP and not dungeons. But calling Halrath and liar and his statement "a crock of bs" is, let's just say, not very constructive and quite rude.

Expect Halrath to follow up with the TERA team's August plans soon, just like he originally said. He'll do that in a different thread because I'm closing this one. For those of you who left constructive feedback, we appreciate it and know that the TERA crew has read what you posted. But leaving a salt mine open will only encourage more rude posts, and it's not the kind of environment we're aiming for on these forums. Please remember to be more constructive when creating future discussions.

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When we have to wait for EME to respond, this is what happens ^
> @LancerJiva said:
> Typical eme response. Move the thread but blatantly ignore it.

No response. Just a move? @seandynamite dude we need you in here. come save us.
Typical eme response. Move the thread but blatantly ignore it.
@Koikoi

Sadly, you are right, this season PvP was punished a lot.

Not only you can't get the best PvP set doing BG's but you also need a loot of luck to get a decent reward from victory boxes.

Rewards from victory boxes on Battlegrounds should be at least as good as 3 or 4 star dungeons loot.
Lol yeah, I was thinking yesterday myself where is the talisman event @Halrath promised. O.o

I think what they should do is remove the VM mats from BG jackpot and just make the BG have 20ish% chance to give talisman/banner/badge/scales to both the sides regardless they win or lose.
While on this topic... VM mats (the untradeable ones) have been completely nerfed and hard.

Iv ran hundreds (at least 200 games) in July and iv seen maybe 10 VM jackpots. and that's being generous.

we need more of the following:
talismans
banners
badge of loyalty

I thought when The first months hours started it looked like EME had finally listened to PvPers. We were getting quite a few VM jackpots and regularly. Then all went to complete crap.
^ this.

I got plenty of mats I guess and yet my only option is to get a party or static party to run VSHM; something that I dislike and I dont have time for.
For BG were easier cuz even if it took like 15 match or so to get a talisman it was worth it.
Cuz im a pvpr.
Everything was more organized when BIS gear wasnt a thing.
You could make your pvp stuff via BGs and pve heroes could do their stuff in DGs. But hey; let make PvPrs play pve stuff if they want the best pvp/pve gear. So unfair.
TYoung11 wrote: »
Eh...If you want Talisman, run VSH...

You're missing the point of this thread.

Just not gonna bother...
Grimoir wrote: »
I dislike pvp so no i did not get them from bg's i got them from lakan boxces from dungeon drops.Also the money u would spend on enchanting you might aswel spend on deathwrack bnoxes because they are 300-400k for armor and 600k wep.

It's like a new braindead person joined the forums. Deathwrack boxes are just the gear piece, you still have to mw, roll and enchant it after you opened it. Read what @Halrath said above and then look for yourself that what he said is 100% lies. PvPers never got an event like this and they only got punished for the talisman being removed from the jackpot. No wonder none of the BGs are popping anymore.
Rapunzzel wrote: »
> @Grimoir said:
> Dont compare to eu because eu has different rules. If you are that obsessed with what eu has go play there.
>
> I got 11 talismans last week just by doing dungeons and opening chests

Well talk for youself; not most pvprs enjoy to run DGs in order yo get our VM [filtered].
It really pisses me off that they handed talisman of lakan via bgs and event in the begginig of patch so a lot of ppl were if not full DW in like a month or so.
But hey now that theres VSHM everyone MUST run it if they want to get DW. [filtered] Tera logic.

I dislike pvp so no i did not get them from bg's i got them from lakan boxces from dungeon drops.Also the money u would spend on enchanting you might aswel spend on deathwrack bnoxes because they are 300-400k for armor and 600k wep.
> @Grimoir said:
> Dont compare to eu because eu has different rules. If you are that obsessed with what eu has go play there.
>
> I got 11 talismans last week just by doing dungeons and opening chests

Well talk for youself; not most pvprs enjoy to run DGs in order yo get our VM [filtered].
It really pisses me off that they handed talisman of lakan via bgs and event in the begginig of patch so a lot of ppl were if not full DW in like a month or so.
But hey now that theres VSHM everyone MUST run it if they want to get DW. [filtered] Tera logic.
Dont compare to eu because eu has different rules. If you are that obsessed with what eu has go play there.

I got 11 talismans last week just by doing dungeons and opening chests
While on EU you can get talisman of lakan for 30 tokens,same summer event.
TYoung11 wrote: »
Eh...If you want Talisman, run VSH...

But of course you're intelligent enough to realize that several players focus PVP and that Deathwrack is end game PVP gear as well as PVE gear? It's not like back in the day when there were separate gears. Sooooo, honestly, people should be able to get VM through both PVP and PVE.
But of course, you're super smart and I shouldn't have to tell you that. ;)



Eh...If you want Talisman, run VSH...
Tbh, I didn't even realize that was their excuse for removing them from the BG jackpots. I just assumed it was because of all of the elitist complaints (because they fail to realize that there are in fact PVPers that need the gear)..... Anyway, it doesn't surprise me at all that they've once again failed to deliver on their promises. Hopefully, it will get sorted out for those who actually need the talismans.

@Halrath Just so you can see this.
Even so, false promises again from EME.
im sure if bg jack pot was x10 lakan chest all pvpers heros queuque bg again
LesbianVi wrote: »
as long as we have those crap Victory boxes, no one gonna bother with BGs, but who's gonna listen.

BTW, EME injected so many enchanting mats to the game that I don't even know what to say.

and Now we actually need a VM mats event so ppl get to use those tons of enchanting mats.

EME/BHS killing PVP and PVE all together at once.

Yet, there are people there that wants to buy mats from broker to make their +15 when mats are handed free and in bulks for every one.

Worst is if you tell them that there is not much investment in mats for enchanting they acuse you to know nothing about the game and keep posting broker prices when we know smart people don't buy mats from broker but use events to get more than enought to enchant.
as long as we have those crap Victory boxes, no one gonna bother with BGs, but who's gonna listen.

BTW, EME injected so many enchanting mats to the game that I don't even know what to say.

and Now we actually need a VM mats so ppl get to use those tons of enchanting mats.

EME/BHS killing PVP and PVE all together at once.
Halrath wrote: »
The talismans have been removed from July's BG jackpots to allow us to use a new event as a means of distributing them. This change is by no means permanent, but it is is a part of our plan for this month. We will evaluate things at the end of July and that will inform our plans for August.

So you say here that there is supposed to be a new event by means of having Talisman as a reward. This post was almost a month ago and no word on said event, which means you lied to our faces.

Where is this so called event that you guys had planned for the Talisman as a possible reward? Sounds like a crock of bs to me. Battlegrounds don't even pop now. Great job! -slow clap-

We will see if Talisman are back in the reward pool for August.
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 PVP Vid Thread (?) 07/11/2017, 02:39 AM Eclipse555

If you're such a good guild why you need an alliance?
There are multiple threads on this topic. We do not need another.
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/16195/july-battleground-calendar/p1
As mentioned in this thread, July BG jackpots and power hours have been posted. But one thing that myself and other players have noticed is, Talisman of Lakan was removed and replaced with Bonanza box.

Like really? Are you guys trying to remove pvp? If you want to make changes based on 'feedback' then remove dragon scales and the tier 12 feedstock and add in bonanza boxes and keep Talisman of Lakan as a possible reward. I don't think there was feedback to remove that specific mat, there WAS feedback to make it VM mats only. Pvp players have no resources to get their Talisman of Lakan next month now because it was removed.

Remove the dragon scales (They're useless and its a punishment rather then a reward when its a jackpot) Remove the feedstock x50 or bump it up to 100 at least. Keep the Talisman in and the bonanza box.

Current rewards:
Lakan's Banner ×2
Badge of Loyalty ×2
Enchanting Bonanza Box ×1
Dragon Scale ×3
Tier 12 Feedstock ×50


Used to be:

Lakan's Banner ×2
Badge of Loyalty ×2
Talisman of Lakan x1
Dragon Scale ×3
Tier 12 Feedstock ×50

Make it:

Lakan's Banner ×2
Badge of Loyalty ×2
Enchanting Bonanza Box ×1
Talisman of Lakan x 1

Or better yet just leave it how it was and make it these:
Lakan's Banner ×2
Badge of Loyalty ×2
Talisman of Lakan x1
Dragon Scale ×3
Tier 12 Feedstock ×50


We need our Talismans. Otherwise there is no point in queuing and you guys are just putting the final nail in the coffin and killing off battlegrounds.

@Halrath @Denommenator @seandynamite
 Allinaces in CU? 06/25/2017, 05:44 AM VGPlayer
WhaleWhale wrote: »
Shrug, MT CU is monopolized by Manifest/Amaterasu alliance, but in the end, it is what it is. Unless you want to lead a super guild and recruit skilled players to challenge the monopolizing guild(s), there's not much you can do. It is what it is.

Every server has a "monopolizing" guild. That guild usually is very coordinated and focused on winning CU, which may include having good strategies prepared beforehand, having everyone geared properly in PVP gear/crystals/glyphs, and having all members participating in voice communications. If you are not prepared with at least those minimum, can you really complain about not winning CU?

Thing is I wasn't in it for wining or profit. I was there because guild needed players so I was like sure ill come. it was fun none the less but soon as the "Big guild came it was gg" xD
i play NA tera not korea tera and what they do on a different game is not a matter for me. This tera let player earn bonanza box, then take it away to replace with recovery potion and dragon claw. many player have been playing the way they want to play and it no longer possible for doing that. Maybe you never open bonanza box, I think if you open box you see it give enchanting material and semi enigmation. Material and scroll can sell for gold to buy gear or upgrade gear, making it possible to only do player vs player in the game, unlike you think. You want to play computer it ok, but I not care to fight computer, much boring. player vs player more difficult than player vs computer for many reason, that is why computer kill in 1 shot or player would get bored if they not bored of playing against computer to start. kumas are good fun also is competitive too, no matter if it simple minigame if it prepare player for the end game battlegrounds, guild vs guild, team deathmatch, player kill duel, civil unrest, gridiron. you thought dungeons were all player use tera for? not mindless but maybe you not play it enough to know a baby can stay alive dps mama the whole round or that a mama can disable the enemy team with breath and stun while dealing dps instead of running around that became popular when mindless people made it mindless. i think the player who like to fight computer ruin the kuma battleground by doing thing a computer would do and not thinking and strategizing proper. maybe you think of iron battleground with tank that shoot and only can shoot just move and click that mindlesss.
have to think that if player spent time in battleground instead of dungeon maybe they end up still doing that when they are max level, not assume they one day decide try to do dungeon instead of player vs player. recommended server for tera is PVP server, not want everybody to play story quest and dungeon then hit max level and come into fraywind canyon with bitter and pounding and no idea about teamwork, positioning, strategy, effective disable and damage skill combo, reading your opponent predicting their attack gauge their cooldown memorizing their attack patterns or adapting to any change at same time of master reflex and reaction speed. Instead fey forest and mount tyrannas should memorize essential mana rotation guide copy crystal setup page and do boring computer rotate? No that not how it was before if player want to fight computer that ok but I not care to and the game force everybody to do it that not ok. option to do the thing we like was available, not an expectation but reality. that changed, i make this forum. i have aplogize for disagree with everything you said maybe you not know enough of player vs player to insult it or believe we not work for what we have because we choose not to play against boring computer. you are right i could cheat and abuse champion skyring. I wont do that because i dont want to, if i cant que into champion skyring and have fun competing same way as the variety of other player vs player this game offer i will not play it and i dont think it ok to have best reward in a battleground people cheat to play to avoid the elitist club. that remind me of the new way i see player doing kumas, sit in a corner near respawn and abuse the no cooldown of breath prevent baby from cast spell and at same time have respawning baby to defend if competetive baby find way to damage him anyway. can shoot missile from range and damage or double iframe behind it and damage except that the team mama keep killing baby like it were standard competitive kuma match but they have to react to strategy and they dont so maybe they play computer better instead. Mindless is strong word and maybe memorizing mechanics and becoming comfortable to repeating everything dull down the competitive edge required of beating player instead.
Spacecats wrote: »
Fleett wrote: »
@Spacecats
You're telling us that all of a sudden the whole TERA playerbase had a luck change? lol

Nobody's really saying what kind of loot they were getting before, just that they aren't happy with what they're getting now. Threads like this are always a callout for people who think they aren't getting enough loot. I'm not saying the loot shouldn't or couldn't be better, but believe me that the settings have gone completely untouched. The chances of each item appearing in the jackpot is the same as it was during all of May and the start of June. They just swapped Handkerchiefs, Envys, and Hypnos with Banners, Badges, and Talismans when the new armor set came out.

I'll suggest to the TERA product team that the rewards be increased from what they have been. If PvPers don't feel like they're being rewarded for their time in BGs, it's definitely something that should be looked at.

The first week of June, Badge of Loyalty and Lakan Scale jackpots were just as common as the Talisman of Lakan jackpots. This week people who've done ~100 battlegrounds have seen only 1-3 Badge of Loyalty/Lakan Scale jackpots. Speaking of Lakan Scale jackpots, the site says the jackpots include a chance for 2 Lakan's Banner but it's really 2 Lakan's Scales(speaking from what I saw the first week, I did not see any Lakan's Banner jackpots. If this was changed recently then I apologize!).
Halrath wrote: »
LancerJiva wrote: »
Furthermore I forgot to add @Spacecats if things weren't changed or touched, then can you explain why Lakan's Scales are in there when they weren't before? You said twice now that things weren't touched when players have posted getting them, including myself.

What he's referring to are the probabilities for the loot table (which I set up). Yes, the Tier 11 mats were swapped out for the Tier 12 mats, but that is literally the only change made. It is the same table that we have used since I began my tenure here. The Tier 12 mats were intended to be rare drops (and they are). Most of the time, you will earn dragon scales or feedstock.

There's rare and then there's nonexistent, In hundreds of battlegrounds players are getting badges only from the Victory Chests, not the jackpots. I don't think you could call the Talisman of Lakan jackpot rare either as it pops up just as frequently and the Feedstock one does.
 Equalise Team 3's 06/14/2017, 02:47 AM treocsx15
You're telling me "gear imbalance" stopped competition in a game where skill > gear? Equalized only helps the pvp population? So if and when BHS completely removes the rewards for bg's, that won't affect the pvp population right? After all it would be eq'd and according to you, equalized only helps the pvp population right? This isn't GW2 nor is it WoW. You're comparing apples to oranges.

What about the pvpers who farmed for their gear? You think they're going to be happy that they can't use the gear they farmed for in the environment they spend most of their time in? Seems to me you have it completely backwards. Adding noct to skyring didn't force players to farm alliance. If they farmed alliance, they chose to do so at their own discretion, not because they were forced to. Having noct wasn't the deciding factor in a 3's battle and never has been. Look at fwc, they can no longer complain about gear so they complain about...premades. This is getting ridiculous I will agree to disagree and leave it at that.
you're obnoxious
How long should it take to make 500 accounts why moderation loves to shut down honest players who disclose what's wrong on the server .. When I have patience, I'll just do it. Until then, have a good day, let's go to a pvp. I have more videos to record; c

allahu ahkabar !!
Will erase this too pity that many people have seen and if you irritate me more will have much more .. gm corrupt !! tsk
move the movie for time 4:09 1 simple exemple hacker in server .. I want to see now what gm will do with evidence in the stream since sim can not edit
time movie 4:09 https://youtube.com/watch?v=NJgI5s9SQ_k
Coming from a healer perspective... Valks are kinda [filtered].

Mystic: I jaunt, they just dash to where I am. Corruption ring a Kd or stun. It's k they have another. Get kd'd and retail jaunts? It's k back stab! Or better yet their mini gigs pull that gets you from 10m away! Also have you seen them in mass? Dunno about you but we lost our lancer to a Valk and he practically does the same thing. Run in, dark Harold Annnnd Aoe... balanced
kknaex wrote: »
Dhrizzit wrote: »
Valkyries isnt the best

warrior still pvpeing better than the valkyries

tested with my brawler

btw valkyries stun are easier to block than warrior stuns, warrior is faster, also his stun shout has high ratio, and its faster than any stun, so,that gives a big advantage to a warrior to start the full stun combo until enemy die by back crits of 60k ( high endurance, yeah hits 60k sometimes )

i dont know how much can hit a valkyrie, but im still thinking warrior is better than a valkyrie in 1 vs 1

And there is a certain way Brawler can counter Valk's backstab and rekt her with a counter punch, assuming I can hold block all the time and wait for the backstab,which isnt that practical.

well, but you have to react fast, even turning block 180 degrees, not all the brawler can do it fast, only a few i guess

anyway, we are talking about pvps 1 vs 1

i think now in massive pvps, lunar dancer can have more adventage than warrior, or brawler ( nerfed brawler ) but not more advantage than a reaper, i played a reaper in cs, staggering all, and killing massives " pentakill "

i think the best buffered character are reaper and gunner

also, i dont believe a valkyrie can defeat a gunner, the people ask for nerf a valkyrie, but, post here a pvp video valkyrie vs gunner

we need proofs, not just words, if something its going to be nerfed, put the best pvp player to pvp in a video, and lets think, if the class is buffered, or need nerfed, or if the player who manage that character its epic good playing

Dhrizzit wrote: »
Valkyries isnt the best

warrior still pvpeing better than the valkyries

tested with my brawler

btw valkyries stun are easier to block than warrior stuns, warrior is faster, also his stun shout has high ratio, and its faster than any stun, so,that gives a big advantage to a warrior to start the full stun combo until enemy die by back crits of 60k ( high endurance, yeah hits 60k sometimes )

i dont know how much can hit a valkyrie, but im still thinking warrior is better than a valkyrie in 1 vs 1

And there is a certain way Brawler can counter Valk's backstab and rekt her with a counter punch, assuming I can hold block all the time and wait for the backstab,which isnt that practical.
MiskuChan wrote: »
Also good luck trying to aim that giga with high ping.

How high is your ping? There was a certain UK lancer that only knew how to giga and beat pretty much everyone in 3's.

And giga isn't auto aim? Maybe not the leash but tell that to the 5 other people who get pulled. Besides, leash has no travel time, it's just as bad if not worse than backstab since you have two shots at it. Stop trying to pretend it's a skillful class when there is no reactive counterplay.

Backstab and leash/giga - ruining PvP since 2012.

But in duel, giga isnt as intimidating as backstab, in mass pvp? It is not masspvp without lancers XD.
aeee98 wrote: »
With my valk i can do damage in +12guile that i just cant reach with my sorc or warrior +12guile too.
Just finished a coupple of ace dungeons in 3 minutes. Shining crescent is really op! And if u do it on Ragnarok, uff...

PvP discussion?

No seriously valkyrie isn't broken in a reaper sense. It is just overtuned in damage and that can be easily fixed

It is true that the retribution if used fast enough after u see the golden blink of Valk's backstab, can successfully counter it. I tried shadow dash the same way but failed to evade from it. But doing this need ping, constant concentration and fast reaction, it is hard for me even in a duel, even in a practice when I know she will use backstab in a few sec, let alone in random mass pvp.
Btw ktera nerfed all backstabs on all classes in a patch. If backstab is used against a player, the cool down is doubled

Cool down is not that important if only one successful backstab combo is needed can kill u. Change all stun stagger to slayer's root is fair enough or just make them like Ninja's.
Coolkicl wrote: »
I wish slayer was a brain dead class like valk so I can be good 2

come on, coool. Tell me who can actually beat u in a duel.
So u r actually complaining about warriors.
XD
Valkyries isnt the best

warrior still pvpeing better than the valkyries

tested with my brawler

btw valkyries stun are easier to block than warrior stuns, warrior is faster, also his stun shout has high ratio, and its faster than any stun, so,that gives a big advantage to a warrior to start the full stun combo until enemy die by back crits of 60k ( high endurance, yeah hits 60k sometimes )

i dont know how much can hit a valkyrie, but im still thinking warrior is better than a valkyrie in 1 vs 1

Also good luck trying to aim that giga with high ping.

What's wrong with it at high ping? I used to have no trouble at 200. But where you try to use it will mess with it.
Also good luck trying to aim that giga with high ping.

How high is your ping? There was a certain UK lancer that only knew how to giga and beat pretty much everyone in 3's.

And giga isn't auto aim? Maybe not the leash but tell that to the 5 other people who get pulled. Besides, leash has no travel time, it's just as bad if not worse than backstab since you have two shots at it.
Also good luck trying to aim that giga with high ping.
> @MiskuChan said:
> Ayi wrote: »
>
> TERA: Competitive Backstab Edition
>
> Do you wish to become a pro gamer? Try out your new auto aim backstab today!
>
> Sorry, as a lancer main it makes me laugh seeing people talk about skill with their auto aim stuns.
>
>
>
>
> Just like giga? Or are you saying that counts as skillful play?

Can't auto aim giga
Ayi wrote: »
TERA: Competitive Backstab Edition

Do you wish to become a pro gamer? Try out your new auto aim backstab today!

Sorry, as a lancer main it makes me laugh seeing people talk about skill with their auto aim stuns.

Just like giga? Or are you saying that counts as skillful play?
TERA: Competitive Backstab Edition

Do you wish to become a pro gamer? Try out your new auto aim backstab today!

Sorry, as a lancer main it makes me laugh seeing people talk about skill with their auto aim stuns.
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