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Halrath wrote: »
Unfortunately, the maintenance tomorrow is not related to server transfer issues. We're still waiting to hear from BHS about that matter.

How about you answer my thread https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/16717/battleground-rewards-and-talisman-of-lakan/p1
Instead of ignoring like you did this morning. All of us would like an answer as to what you said almost a month ago.
Can EME explain why this maint ll be so long?
S.H.IT server
CANT KEEP A [filtered] CHARACTER ON TO KILL A [filtered] RALLY BAM. [filtered] SERVER
I am reorganizing my characters, buying race changers, appearance changers, deleting old ones to make some new ones, I dc all the time during character creation screen, I dced so many times that I messed up my last character and wasted my dam appearance changer :angry: :rage:

The character creation is already outdated and crap, and this disconnection and not being able to stay there and do what you have to do to create a character you like is beyond annoying, was reported before but it keeps happening and it annoys the crap outta me as I am creating and changing characters race and vouchers, one appearance changer gone to waste already, Fix this now, please :unamused:
Private message me please.
Borsuc wrote: »
Vunak wrote: »
Host Canyon Clash and Skyring Slam tournaments again.
The problem with these is that they're a temporary thing. I mean, they have to be temporary, but at least give people access to play them in the meantime (which is what B&S for example does with arena, at least in KR and regions where it has actual esport tournaments). Skyring Slam would be like B&S's actual tournaments, but you can't just throw in tournaments and call yourself an esport. You need to foster a community outside the tournaments but how can you do that when you don't have the tournament experience in the game?

Now of course people will say that PvP doesn't need to be esport-viable to be good or improved or fun, but the fact of the matter is that, at least for competitive genres and modes (like Skyring is), esport-viability is a measurement of how good the PvP is, because good PvP design can lead to esports not the other way around. So you can just take it as a sign of that. (note by "good" I don't mean what some people's opinion of good is, I'm sure a lot of people find many PvP esport games "garbage", but the fact of the matter is to be popular means a lot of people must like it, even if you don't; for TERA it doesn't matter if you personally like it or not, in its current state it will never come even close and that is a statistical fact not an opinion)

There are extremely popular MMOs that were some of the best PvP MMOs to exist that didn't foster an ESport environment, DAoC for example. That is the father of PvP MMOs. That is a fact. Most MMOs that include PvP draw inspiration from DAoC because of that. Even TERA, even GW2, even WoW, Everquest 2, WAR, SWTOR, BnS. Just about every MMO that has PvP in them has taken inspiration from DAoC.. FFXIV. So saying ESports are a measurement of how good your PvP is, is asinine.

Being popular doesn't mean your game is E-Sport viable. GW2 is a testament to that. They are a very popular game, they tried to incorporate E-Sports. They pushed and pushed for it. They have the game modes to support it, they have the population and development team to support it. Yet their partners dropped them because it didn't work.

There is a lot more to ESport viability than popularity and ability. GW2 is a hard game to follow if you have never played the game. MMOs in general are hard games to follow if you have never played them. Which is a large cause for why they don't work well with ESports. CS:Go, LoL, DOTA, Super Smash. All of those are really easy to follow even if you have never played them. You can easily understand whats going on in them. Making them viable to have an audience watch them without having to have a deep understanding of them. The reason BnS works as an ESport is because of that reason. It is designed almost like a Fighting game when you watch it. It is easy to follow.

The point of Skyring Slam and Canyon Clash in TERA isn't about fostering an ESport community. Its about giving PvP players something to look forward to every year or so. To bring attention to an underdeveloped part of the game. It was fun for the community to watch and participate in.
I'm the GM of a guild called Valor on Fey Forest.

My Two characters are Faith ( My lancer ), Hope ( My valkyrie )

I have designated people for each topic i have listed above.

Basically


If you need Misery and you can prove you are a new person, I will run you through a dungeon that supplys you with Misery.

If you need minor help with gear such as mes or questions regarding that, i can help.

If you need 1 on 1 Tutoring for PvP on any of these classes listed, ( Lancer,Valk,Zerker,Brawler,Gunner,Priest,Mystic,Archer,Reaper ) I can help on a few and will have other people that excel at their position, help you instead.

If you need 3v3 Skyring help, We can set that up and i'll have PvE'rs from my guild queue on both sides to even out the fight, with recording to go over mistakes and what could have happened, or just for general complimenting and overwatch.

If you need Glyphs for PvP and PvE, We can help.



If you would like ANY help regarding some of the topics listed or something that might branch off.

Send a parcel to

''Faith'' Or ''Hope'' on Fey Forest.

If you do not get a parcel back within one day, Send a pm to a guildie requesting me ( Valor guild ) or send another parcel.

These are people you can pm requesting me on discord

Pm these people in game if im not here.

''[filtered], Juoo, Asphodelle, Forceful, Teresafaintsmile <---- ( this person is on the most ) , Blushu''

All on Fey forest.




Just trying to help out people while i can.
Spacecats can you fix the brawler root glitch because its been affecting every bg and i know its been brought up multiple times
This is a problem, but it won't be recognized as one until the people buying the costumes all decide "Hmm, maybe I'll just wait for it to become free, too!"

I think the OP took a very aggressive tone with some players and frankly made themself look like an [filtered], but I agree with their point. It's not necessarily about "This costume item which I got three years ago should stay rare and special forever", it's okay to ease collectibles back into the market, but my issue with things like the Kyras event is that a lot of these costume items which used to be special to those who had them became literal garbage that everyone hated winning from the potion shack and ended up with hundreds of entries in the broker. It's kind of insulting.

I don't understand why anyone is surprised that people view their costumes as a status symbol. Of course they do. There are plenty of lovely looking outfits in the fashion coupon shop that we would all probably pay money for if they were in the store, but the reason they rarely get used by costume lovers is because they're so easy to obtain. This might be hard for those of you who couldn't care less about the costumes to understand but just compare it to dungeon titles, as an example. I'm sure the people who worked their butts off to get Surgeon at level 60 weren't exactly thrilled about people being able to farm the title after the 65 patch dropped and it became far easier. Same story for those who farmed Determined in SCHM's first iteration compared to those who farmed it after; both groups of people have the exact same title now, no difference.

And I keep seeing mentions about how this only happens with costumes that are over 2 years old. Where have you been? Have you seen the noblesse weapons? The weather clouds? All of the decorative wings? The list goes on and these are all costumes which were included in events only months after their cash shop release. The problem isn't about 3 year old costumes. EME is constantly throwing the finger at its customers saying "Well, we suckered all the people we could out of this one... let's include it in the next event to make em happy!". This is happening with relatively new releases and it's getting harder and harder for me to justify supporting this company when things I've spent money on get handed out not even a year after their initial release. You can say "Don't spend your money then!", but that's a dangerous attitude to take if you want the game to grow.
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Every few millennia, a popo is born with the cunning of a tuwangi, the speed of a priest, and the intelligence... of a popo.

He is known as the hidden popo, or "Hidey Guy." It is said that he has many appearances. He can be anywhere. Those who try to find him will have an extremely difficult time doing so. They will have to seek high and low. They will have to travel to many seeking locations. They will need extremely sharp peeper orbs for seeking the Hidey Guy. And they shall be known as...

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seekers. They're called seekers.

JOIN US AT 3 PM PDT TODAY AND THE BEST SEEKERS WILL GET ONE OF THESE SWEET BABIES! https://www.twitch.tv/enmasseentertainment
I've bolded the main points in case you don't want to read why I think the change is important.


Multiple BGs:


Entering a match in progress should give a guaranteed Victory Chest, or at least an additional loser's Receipt (or 2 or 3).

Before the new system, you got bonus credits, but that's no longer a thing, so there is no incentive at all to take in-progress matches, this would be an easy way to change that.

The top scorers on both winning and losing team should be awarded bonus Victory Boxes in FWC/Grid separately.

Under the current system, it's the top scorers in the entire game (across both teams) in FWC, but the losing team rarely has any chance to get the bonus because they usually lose every group fight hard and get few points from kills and assists. I think it should be expanded separately to the losing team and grid as well. People will give up and AFK extremely easily in these BGs, making things much less fun for those who want to continue, giving top losing team members extra rewards would incentivize continuing to compete. You could give them receipts if you think boxes would be too much, but they should get something.

Randomize teams during matchmaking.

It's possible to synchronize when you queue to try to end up on the same team as your buddies. This can result in groups of strong players repeatedly ending up on the same team and dominating the random collection of folks on the enemy team. Randomize the members of each team to prevent this and make the games more fair.

Spread tanks and healers evenly during matchmaking.

To go with the previous point, if you've played a lot of BGs, you've been on teams with 4 mystics when the enemy had 2 of each, or teams with no tanks when the enemy had 3 or 4. It's a hefty disadvantage to not have one type of healer, or have no tanks in large scale fights. It would be relatively easy for the matchmaking system to mitigate this when possible.

Unequalized gear.

Korea just got it for FWC, make sure we do too. Also for Gridiron. I realize CS is hard because of balancing the gates and stone, so perhaps it would be best to leave that equalized and have it be more accessible for new players.

Rebalance equalized gear or make it customizable.

Everyone gets the exactly the same gear, even if it makes no sense. Healers have offensive stats instead of defensive. Plate classes get little flat endurance and are squishy as [filtered] compared to open world. Gunner has tons of crit factor when its main damage skills would crit 100% of the time with half as much. No one gets stun reduction. It completely screws BHS's ability to balance the classes too because they have to balance around some being amazing in open world compared to BGs.

Remove the 120s combat no kick timer in BGs.

No reason for it to exist in BGs. The votes needed to kick is already quite high, if the team agrees someone needs to go, for afking, intentional feeding, toxicity, whatever, they should be able to be kicked, regardless of whether people have been in combat in the past 120 seconds. This would also reduce the amount of random kicking at start. People agree to early kicks because if they decline, they worry they may end up stuck with someone who legitimately shouldn't have been allowed to stay with no way to kick them later in the game.

Additional reward for leading if your team wins

Should reduce people playing hot potato with leader and get people actually trying to do it. Only for victories though so we don't get people just asking for lead and then not bothering to actually do it.


FWC:


Raise health and reduce crit resist of BAMs.

Right now archer has a huge advantage sniping bams because of their flat crit chance passive. FWC was made before this was a thing, it should be updated to match the current gameplay rather than give a single class such a significant advantage. Archer is already top tier for the pvp portion of FWC, it doesn't need the best BAM sniping by such a huge margin as well.

Slightly raise health of the Red and Blue buff monsters.

Priests like to use Energy Stars on these to buff the team before the first fight, but they are so weak it will sometimes just kill them, resulting in no buff. A small health buff would help with this strategy.

Make the FWC achievements count toward laurels instead of the CS ones.

FWC has achievements for victories only, CS has achievements for getting top rank, which is difficult for healers to get. Having FWC contribute to laurel instead would be more equitable for different classes.

Nerf the in combat swim speed of elins and popori (racial passive).

They swim faster in combat than they move on land when in combat! Ridiculous, and a solid advantage in FWC where they can swim away much, much easier than other races. Either reduce the effect or make it out-of-combat only.



Kumas:


Lower vote amount required to kick.

9/10 votes is ludicrous when virtually every game has afks, offlines, people who don't understand english and thus can't be counted on to vote kick someone, even when it's obvious they should be removed from the game (afk in base multiple rounds, deliberate sabotage etc.) Your team is screwed from the start if you get 2 or more afks/offlines; you can't kick either cause the other is afk and thus won't vote.



Stuff other people mentioned that I endorse:

Equalized Team 3s Queue
Minor CS Bomb buff
Leaderboards
Honor system (sounds good, but abuseable by premades).
Better rewards
I've bolded the main points in case you don't want to read why I think the change is important.


Multiple BGs:


Entering a match in progress should give a guaranteed Victory Chest, or at least an additional loser's Receipt (or 2 or 3).

Before the new system, you got bonus credits, but that's no longer a thing, so there is no incentive at all to take in-progress matches, this would be an easy way to change that.

The top scorers on both winning and losing team should be awarded bonus Victory Boxes in FWC/Grid separately.

Under the current system, it's the top scorers in the entire game (across both teams) in FWC, but the losing team rarely has any chance to get the bonus because they usually lose every group fight hard and get few points from kills and assists. I think it should be expanded separately to the losing team and grid as well. People will give up and AFK extremely easily in these BGs, making things much less fun for those who want to continue, giving top losing team members extra rewards would incentivize continuing to compete. You could give them receipts if you think boxes would be too much, but they should get something.

Randomize teams during matchmaking.

It's possible to synchronize when you queue to try to end up on the same team as your buddies. This can result in groups of strong players repeatedly ending up on the same team and dominating the random collection of folks on the enemy team. Randomize the members of each team to prevent this and make the games more fair.

Spread tanks and healers evenly during matchmaking.

To go with the previous point, if you've played a lot of BGs, you've been on teams with 4 mystics when the enemy had 2 of each, or teams with no tanks when the enemy had 3 or 4. It's a hefty disadvantage to not have one type of healer, or have no tanks in large scale fights. It would be relatively easy for the matchmaking system to mitigate this when possible.

Unequalized gear.

Korea just got it for FWC, make sure we do too. Also for Gridiron. I realize CS is hard because of balancing the gates and stone, so perhaps it would be best to leave that equalized and have it be more accessible for new players.

Rebalance equalized gear or make it customizable.

Everyone gets the exactly the same gear, even if it makes no sense. Healers have offensive stats instead of defensive. Plate classes get little flat endurance and are squishy as [filtered] compared to open world. Gunner has tons of crit factor when its main damage skills would crit 100% of the time with half as much. No one gets stun reduction. It completely screws BHS's ability to balance the classes too because they have to balance around some being amazing in open world compared to BGs.

Remove the 120s combat no kick timer in BGs.

No reason for it to exist in BGs. The votes needed to kick is already quite high, if the team agrees someone needs to go, for afking, intentional feeding, toxicity, whatever, they should be able to be kicked, regardless of whether people have been in combat in the past 120 seconds. This would also reduce the amount of random kicking at start. People agree to early kicks because if they decline, they worry they may end up stuck with someone who legitimately shouldn't have been allowed to stay with no way to kick them later in the game.

Additional reward for leading if your team wins

Should reduce people playing hot potato with leader and get people actually trying to do it. Only for victories though so we don't get people just asking for lead and then not bothering to actually do it.


FWC:


Raise health and reduce crit resist of BAMs.

Right now archer has a huge advantage sniping bams because of their flat crit chance passive. FWC was made before this was a thing, it should be updated to match the current gameplay rather than give a single class such a significant advantage. Archer is already top tier for the pvp portion of FWC, it doesn't need the best BAM sniping by such a huge margin as well.

Slightly raise health of the Red and Blue buff monsters.

Priests like to use Energy Stars on these to buff the team before the first fight, but they are so weak it will sometimes just kill them, resulting in no buff. A small health buff would help with this strategy.

Make the FWC achievements count toward laurels instead of the CS ones.

FWC has achievements for victories only, CS has achievements for getting top rank, which is difficult for healers to get. Having FWC contribute to laurel instead would be more equitable for different classes.

Nerf the in combat swim speed of elins and popori (racial passive).

They swim faster in combat than they move on land when in combat! Ridiculous, and a solid advantage in FWC where they can swim away much, much easier than other races. Either reduce the effect or make it out-of-combat only.



Kumas:


Lower vote amount required to kick.

9/10 votes is ludicrous when virtually every game has afks, offlines, people who don't understand english and thus can't be counted on to vote kick someone, even when it's obvious they should be removed from the game (afk in base multiple rounds, deliberate sabotage etc.) You're team is screwed from the start if you get 2 or more afks/offlines; you can't kick either cause the other is afk and thus won't vote.



Stuff other people mentioned that I endorse:

Equalized Team 3s Queue
MInor CS Bomb buff
Leaderboards
Honor system (sounds good, but abuseable by premades).
Better rewards
Palomina wrote: »
Just saying .. valk is neither the most mobile dps class nor do they have the best survivability , its just that their damage is strong enough to kill people in one combo which makes them look OP.

Makes them look OP? Makes them LOOK OP?! MAKES THEM LOOK OP!?
Being overly dramatic here, but no seriously. They don't only "Look OP" and it's not just their tons of damage.

Valks actually brought mechanics never before introduced into Tera that makes them OP.
Did you know their i-frame disarms traps? Why can't every other class do that? It's a 4 second cooldown i-frame that has reset potential to disarm traps. Again, this is a mechanic never before introduced.

Did you know Valks can stun people who are knocked down? Other classes have to place a stun at the perfect moment predicting retaliate to do something like that. Imagine just how many classes would be broke beyond broke if they could stun you while you're knocked down.

This is also a mechanic never before introduced into Tera.

The class has a built in mocking shout that self heals, a **** ton of tools to gap close to whoever they want to kill, staggers and stuns on nearly all their skills, an infinite stagger lock with just their first hit on combo attack, skills that make an action combat game look like a tab target game that lead into death and not just poke, shadow reaping on a 25 second duration and you're here telling me they have tons of damage too!?

Look, warriors can kill someone in one combo, but in group PvP they're putting their [filtered] on the line by doing that and they're not killing 4058940585403 other people while killing that one person.

It's all good though, saw the recent notes on the back stab change in the future and the devs know the class "looks op" so no complaints.
This is a problem. But until the day when everyone who was paying for this game to run decides to sit and wait till stuff gets handed out free like everyone else, it will just be regarded as senseless whining. It happens every time this gets bought up.

Of course costume items are status symbols. There are plenty of costumes in the fashion coupon store which look lovely especially compared to certain cash shop items, but no one uses them because they're so easy to get. Let's not pretend that people who enjoy the special items they've collected over the years should just be happy about these things becoming worthless in the broker due to a kyras pop up event.

The fact remains that when it comes to these types of events, EME has run out of ideas on what to offer, so they just say "welp, we've made all the money we could off that garbage, just throw it in the event!"

That's not to say old items should never be reintroduced, but when an item goes from being a rare accessory to having hundreds of broker entries under 100g each, it's just a tad bit ridiculous.

The whole "you're paying for now vs later" argument is pointless. We can see that this wasn't exactly the case with items like the rainblow cloud, the wings, the noblesse weapons, the list goes on. These items became event property just months after their initial release. It's a problem because I'm not going to keep paying for these things when a couple months later they become free. If other people feel the same way as me, say hello to even higher EMP prices as fewer people will be willing to buy.

I really don't understand why anyone would be in favor of them continuing to do this anyway, considering every kyra's event people are usually angry to receive these costume items as opposed to other things, anyway. They need to come up with better things to just hand out, period.
I love PVP and im really happy you are taking suggestions from the community here are a few things:

1. Allow players to queue for multiple BGs at once is a Great idea

2. Unequalized FWC. Please make this happen! Now with dual option most players dont have a problem gearing for it. This will also give PVPers a reason to gear

3. FWC pyre points should be increased. Not the points for capping but the points for keeping multiple pyres. The other points should remain the same

4. Add rewards for leading. right now it is terrible for leaders and I feel sorry for them

5. Class balance mainly the broken classes: Valk and Reapers need balancing in PVP. They are both way to strong and ruin a lot of PVP.

6. A small buff to the Bombs in CS. Make them do around 80K damage so it isnt enough to 1 shot but 2 bombs is enough to kill people. Currently even if 2 bombs hit a group at the same time they all still live.

7. Make Kumas include all levels. I have no idea why it was changed

8. Make PVP gearing a little less RNG by removing HP pots (both rejuvenation and health potion) from the rewards boxes. It is honestly pretty sad trying hard PVPing for a freaking potion and you cant even use in PVP and is worth anything! Also increase the amount of Feed Stock and Omni Ore from the chest. 30 Feedstock would be fair and 5 omni ore
Remove all new classes and revamp all the main ones then talk about balancing bgs pussssssssssy
yea, very inmature
I feel like very immature to bring this up but decided to do it anyway.

Yesterday afternoon I made a thread: https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/16606/great-event
talk about the event "Take Unskilled Players Under Your Wing!" doesn't help unskilled players to become better but rather bringing negative impacts to the community. (I suggest you all read it and think about the impact this event will bring)
The thread was locked within 5mins for the reason of duplicate thread and redirect me to https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/16599/vs-mentor-event

Then the following conversation happened:
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....and no reply from this CM anymore.

Note: At the time when my thread got locked, there were only 3 pages of comments on the redirected thread - which all are still talking about the event rewards.

I'm quite unpleasant with the way they handle posts they don't want to deal with. Maybe the way I say things is bad, but I'm pointing out facts - tons of rookies become skilled by lying on the ground, and in the future they will waste people time wiping to find out that they don't know how to run those dungeons. This event is already bringing so much negative energy (just go to https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/16599/vs-mentor-event/p5 and you can read a ton of complaints.) It is going to make actual skilled players to suffer more in the future. This event is essentially only benefiting the rookies that don't want to learn dungeons, just want to leach loot, which I believe is promoting their behavior.
@Spacecats since you want to warn me and deleted my comment.
What if I post it here.. It's been 24 hours and not update.

I will ask again any word on the server xfers?
@Spacecats
Any word on xfers??
I've been playing this game since the close beta (I was selected luckily). Since then, I've been loyal and played this game despite all other great mmorpg games out on the market: Guild War 2, World of Warcraft, Black Desert Online, Blade and Soul, Diabol 3. There are reasons why I chose Tera over them. At early stage of this game, everyone was astonished by the graphic and great scenery of the game with of course the great combat style. In addition to in game features, GMs and Staff of EME were very nice and close with the user. I've had few chances to even do PvP against Non-God mode GMs in FWC and even on the field. But now, i feel like you guys cut the bridges with the user and only focused on bringing more grinding events and updating the stores. If you guys want to find out why popularity of this game is decreasing, should honestly do a legit survey with many options for users to choose from.
Interaction brings community in one and right now I feel like community is segregated due to failure of you guys' part on acknowledging the problem. Most difficult yet easiest part in fixing Tera and bring the old days back (in terms of popularity and population) is to acknowledge the failure and try to intake opinions with open mind and apply them. Communicate with us in regards to your plans on future of Tera.

Great guilds and great people have left because of these reasons. I feel like this game consistently recycles the dungeons and takes way too long to come up with new contents. Once content comes out, people come back to try it again for few weeks to months and than realizes that they have reached dead end again. PvP server with no PvP action other than Battle ground is bummer. I don't know how rest of the community feels like but pay to win have gotten game A LOT easier.
There is already a thread for this topic.
Is it me or is it obvious to anyone else how poorly this event is going and how much worse it's going to get? It's taken already poor ims times and made the wait longer for runs that don't happen due to people trying to find thier friends. I suggest that they allow people to party together and ims otherwise there is no incentive to continue this event. If this event is going to continue failing at drawing player interest I suggest they end it early. As it stands i've not been able to get any runs going of any of the dungeons. Maybe someone somewhere is benefitting but as for those i've seen and myself, no such luck.
@Halrath

Could you make the event announcement even clearer on the fact that it requires players to solo-queue instance matching.
Better to be clear in the announcement than to have it clarified by way of mouth. :)

"1) They enter any of the above dungeons via instance matching (Solo) and
2) An unskilled player joins their group and
3) That player completes the dungeon run."


Seikilos wrote: »
They (old crew) jumped a sinking ship (tera) because the captain (BHS) doesn't give a duck or two about what's going to happen and care only to grab enough money before the ship goes underwater for good. At that point they will just pull the plug and all your characters and work and effort in this game will stop existing. They will leave with the money and you will live with the bitter taste.

Old crew left because they had no word on the evolution of this game.
Working in the game industry is a job. How much you adore the game you're working on does play a role, but it really has a small impact on your day-to-day work. As they each said independently, both officially and after the fact, there were much larger decisions at play in their lives that were about much more than just faith in TERA. Even if they absolutely loved everything about TERA and its future, they still would have probably made the same decisions to advance their lives/careers. It's not something they did lightly or flippantly.

Basically, their personal decisions were about them and their own lives. We shouldn't co-opt them to make them about us.

True. Though i just think that the whole situation made it easier for them.

There's : "Guys i'm really sad for leaving, but life moves on and i have dreams to make true. Take care."

And there's : "Good god i got free from this [filtered]. BURN MOFOS. BUUUUUURN!!!!"

I think, and this is MY assumption, that their decision was the later.
feminzii wrote: »

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Figure 2: Charging this much for dyes should be reprimandable by permanent ban.

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Yea got nothing for vsh carry/teachings D:
Where ae my nocs T.T.... this event its a lie
Try to avoid creating an additional thread, when there is already one going that is discussing it : https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/16599/vs-mentor-event
voidy wrote: »

All my friends and my guild is making 4men carrying parties for speed runs in IMS to farm the rewards, haven't seen anyone teaching.

They're not gonna get rewards then. Haven't you read the news, fam? Everyone's gotta IMS in solo.

Didn't know that, but have you heard of sync queue?

All my friends and my guild is making 4men carrying parties for speed runs in IMS to farm the rewards, haven't seen anyone teaching.

They're not gonna get rewards then. Haven't you read the news, fam? Everyone's gotta IMS in solo.
This is not a mentor event, people don't learn by other people carrying them through runs.
In a rude way to say is: Those retards go in blindly without any knowledge, they don't even know what's going on and what killed them.

I can't see a single positive thing after this event. All those handicaps with skilled tags gonna bring so many negative energy to their own servers. They are going to pretend that they know what to do, waste people's time wiping to find out that they don't.

I know there are good people that actually take this opportunity to teach their friend/guildies, but even without this event they would still do similar things from time to time.

All my friends and my guild is making 4men carrying parties for speed runs in IMS to farm the rewards, haven't seen anyone teaching.
Starting with tomorrow morning’s reset of the Harrowhold 20-man dungeon raid, we will be adding a bonus loot set to the final stage, Vergos’s Hoard. In addition to the regular loot table, EVERY player that completes the final stage and loots Vergos's Hoard will also receive all of the following items/quantities:
  • 5 Dragon Scales


  • 5 Blessed Enigmatic Scrolls
  • 500 Tier 12 Feedstock 

  • 1 Dyad Niveot Structure 


  • 3 Superior Etching Boxes
  • 

5 Strong Canephora Potions
  • 

5 Strong Bravery Potions


  • 2 Superior Noctenium Elixirs
Again, this goes into effect after the dungeon reset on Tuesday, July 18th.

-Seandynamite
Seikilos wrote: »
They (old crew) jumped a sinking ship (tera) because the captain (BHS) doesn't give a duck or two about what's going to happen and care only to grab enough money before the ship goes underwater for good. At that point they will just pull the plug and all your characters and work and effort in this game will stop existing. They will leave with the money and you will live with the bitter taste.

Old crew left because they had no word on the evolution of this game.
Working in the game industry is a job. How much you adore the game you're working on does play a role, but it really has a small impact on your day-to-day work. As they each said independently, both officially and after the fact, there were much larger decisions at play in their lives that were about much more than just faith in TERA. Even if they absolutely loved everything about TERA and its future, they still would have probably made the same decisions to advance their lives/careers. It's not something they did lightly or flippantly.

Basically, their personal decisions were about them and their own lives. We shouldn't co-opt them to make them about us.
We are still targeting 2017 for release of TERA on console. No announcement of a delay was made during the stream.

thats all i was hoping for , dont need to tell when exactly just "yea its gonna release 2017" , thats all , tks for it bro ^^
DeadX wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
LesbianVi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked

Oh! So you deny that new staff have tried also?

You are only showing a blind fate on people that abandoned you and the comunity becuase they were afriad to face hardships, instead they runaway and jumped ship.

As you said in this last post, the first EME team is not capable, can't do anything, have no guts and jump ship at the first sign of rain (not even a storm).

That kind of people is not what this comunity needs as they choose to abandoned you.

So much love you show for someone that give their back to this comunity.

listen little elin, i dont know when you joined tera but tonka and minea did more for us than the current enmasse and bhs team, so have fun to spit to them, obviously you never know the golden age of tera

@vkobe dear, I was banned from forums when those 2 were around for 1/10 of the crap you are saying now, that says a lot :p

want to check my posts on the old forum when they were with us ? ;)

i joined the hostile club when they were with us

and personally i felt more free to write in the old forum with them than now with our current staff

you're feels are irrelevant, minea, shark, or anyone else would have done the same thing anyone now would do. you have some serious rose colored glasses, the games improved a lot the old staff made a lot of promises that weren't kept, tried things that didn't work out, crashed every server from a miscalculation. everything is still pretty much the same as it was then. games got more options however, more choices.

[filtered] the old staff made a TON of miscalculations. launch there was how many servers hmm? then all merged except CH with the requisite renaming that followed. at least that fiasco wasn't repeated as badly.

and your post is irrevelant you quoted the part i talk about the forum and not the game, so plz learn to quote the good post
We are still targeting 2017 for release of TERA on console. No announcement of a delay was made during the stream.

well, he is good at baits :D lol
We are still targeting 2017 for release of TERA on console. No announcement of a delay was made during the stream.
vkobe wrote: »
LesbianVi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked

Oh! So you deny that new staff have tried also?

You are only showing a blind fate on people that abandoned you and the comunity becuase they were afriad to face hardships, instead they runaway and jumped ship.

As you said in this last post, the first EME team is not capable, can't do anything, have no guts and jump ship at the first sign of rain (not even a storm).

That kind of people is not what this comunity needs as they choose to abandoned you.

So much love you show for someone that give their back to this comunity.

listen little elin, i dont know when you joined tera but tonka and minea did more for us than the current enmasse and bhs team, so have fun to spit to them, obviously you never know the golden age of tera

@vkobe dear, I was banned from forums when those 2 were around for 1/10 of the crap you are saying now, that says a lot :p

want to check my posts on the old forum when they were with us ? ;)

i joined the hostile club when they were with us

and personally i felt more free to write in the old forum with them than now with our current staff

you're feels are irrelevant, minea, shark, or anyone else would have done the same thing anyone now would do. you have some serious rose colored glasses, the games improved a lot the old staff made a lot of promises that weren't kept, tried things that didn't work out, crashed every server from a miscalculation. everything is still pretty much the same as it was then. games got more options however, more choices.

[filtered] the old staff made a TON of miscalculations. launch there was how many servers hmm? then all merged except CH with the requisite renaming that followed. at least that fiasco wasn't repeated as badly.
NPCPak wrote: »
WCWKXCHTTG wrote: »
thanks for that . but would be good anyway if EME could confirm that its still gonna realease at 2017 cuz they said nothing since february that was the announcement

Don't forget that things takes time, my friend. Just like when TERA was first publicly announced back in 2009, we never got to actually play the game until 2012. Even though TERA for consoles was just speculation since last year, on March 10th of 2017, En Masse confirmed a console release... It's only been 4 months.

We have to remember that just because they're keeping quiet about any new information on the console's release, does not mean that TERA's console versions are being delayed in any way, shape or form. It's very normal for the gaming industry to be quiet about their games and it's only been recently where certain game developers have come out to talk about any new updates with their community.

One thing that I know, and that I'd like everyone to understand, is that if it's not publicly announced by the publisher... it's just speculation and rumors. Until they announce any new updates for TERA consoles, we're just going to have to wait patiently for it's release.

"TERA, En Masse Entertainment's flagship MMORPG, will be making its long-anticipated debut on the PlayStation®4 computer entertainment system and Xbox One, the all-in-one games and entertainment system from Microsoft, in 2017. The console version of TERA brings with it all of the content and feature updates that the game has received over the past five years of live updates on PC."

Source

Exactly, it's only been 4 months, and there are 5 more months to go in 2017. Plenty of time for things to happen.
LesbianVi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked

Oh! So you deny that new staff have tried also?

You are only showing a blind fate on people that abandoned you and the comunity becuase they were afriad to face hardships, instead they runaway and jumped ship.

As you said in this last post, the first EME team is not capable, can't do anything, have no guts and jump ship at the first sign of rain (not even a storm).

That kind of people is not what this comunity needs as they choose to abandoned you.

So much love you show for someone that give their back to this comunity.

listen little elin, i dont know when you joined tera but tonka and minea did more for us than the current enmasse and bhs team, so have fun to spit to them, obviously you never know the golden age of tera

@vkobe dear, I was banned from forums when those 2 were around for 1/10 of the crap you are saying now, that says a lot :p

want to check my posts on the old forum when they were with us ? ;)

i joined the hostile club when they were with us
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked

Oh! So you deny that new staff have tried also?

You are only showing a blind fate on people that abandoned you and the comunity becuase they were afriad to face hardships, instead they runaway and jumped ship.

As you said in this last post, the first EME team is not capable, can't do anything, have no guts and jump ship at the first sign of rain (not even a storm).

That kind of people is not what this comunity needs as they choose to abandoned you.

So much love you show for someone that give their back to this comunity.

listen little elin, i dont know when you joined tera but tonka and minea did more for us than the current enmasse and bhs team, so have fun to spit to them, obviously you never know the golden age of tera

@vkobe dear, I was banned from forums when those 2 were around for 1/10 of the crap you are saying now, that says a lot :p
LegateTR wrote: »
The whole "this game is dead" thing has become a washed out meme. It's not dead or dying, the population is fine.

lol who you lying to
Wanna know why? Bc other f2p mmos just suck, and one way or the other, they couldn't afford building a stable player base.
RO was a p2w flop just like my.com, BnS got boring in like, 2 months? Aion is [filtered], others are just on the verge of death, and that's for real - try playing Wildstars or Archage to see what a dead game is. Yeah, population isn't as it used to be b4, and Idek or care about EU population either, but Tera still kicks on. Many left 4 BnS and RO, many others came back.

This is the 1st mmo I played, started with friends like, 3-4 yrs ago, and I'm still here despite my friends leaving.
Maybe habit, or bc what I tried didn't really convince me, but I don't think I'm gonna permanently leave Tera till the servers are legit shut down - and that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
Also, Tera's going on a console, that'll make hopefully the population a bit higher, and the new enchanting system will draw back some ppl sick of VM enchanting. Hopefully.
WCWKXCHTTG wrote: »
thanks for that . but would be good anyway if EME could confirm that its still gonna realease at 2017 cuz they said nothing since february that was the announcement

Don't forget that things takes time, my friend. Just like when TERA was first publicly announced back in 2009, we never got to actually play the game until 2012. Even though TERA for consoles was just speculation since last year, on March 10th of 2017, En Masse confirmed a console release... It's only been 4 months.

We have to remember that just because they're keeping quiet about any new information on the console's release, does not mean that TERA's console versions are being delayed in any way, shape or form. It's very normal for the gaming industry to be quiet about their games and it's only been recent where certain game developers have come out to talk about any new updates with their community.

One thing that I know, and that I'd like everyone to understand, is that if it's not publicly announced by the publisher... it's just speculation and rumors. Until they announce any new updates for TERA consoles, we're just going to have to wait patiently for it's release.

"TERA, En Masse Entertainment's flagship MMORPG, will be making its long-anticipated debut on the PlayStation®4 computer entertainment system and Xbox One, the all-in-one games and entertainment system from Microsoft, in 2017. The console version of TERA brings with it all of the content and feature updates that the game has received over the past five years of live updates on PC."

Source
Gi9ven there arent as many players as there were the game is far from dead.

The only dead thing is what you got in your pants .-.
Valcure wrote: »
What do you consider dead? There are basically no guilds recruiting and no one talking about this game on social media (reddit etc). The starter zones are a complete ghost town and every server besides MT barely has a pulse.

The only people playing this game are poor and can't afford to pay for a real MMO experience.

Most people playing have simply played for too long and don't want their time or money investment going to waste.
@WCWKXCHTTG OP is a known troll, so take this with a massive amount of salt.

thanks for that . but would be good anyway if EME could confirm that its still gonna realease at 2017 cuz they said nothing since february that was the announcement
@WCWKXCHTTG OP is a known troll, so take this with a massive amount of salt.
Can someone from EME confirm this , or they gonna let players confused again ?
Read a lil som in my old tablets notes (bout Tera).... n came bcuz wonder the same lol.,, I remembe havin fun when I did play tho.
Seikilos wrote: »
Old crew left because they had no word on the evolution of this game. And as halrath/denomenator said, BHS likes it that way.

At least someone understand the circunstances before and now for EME staff is not something they decide but BHS is the one making the rules.

Previous crew left and even if they won't this game would be in the same circunstances, that is something that some people don't understand at all.
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I agree with you on the mere explanation BUT the point is to wake up before that. Before the point of no return. And the dwindling population is THE sign.
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They (old crew) jumped a sinking ship (tera) because the captain (BHS) doesn't give a duck or two about what's going to happen and care only to grab enough money before the ship goes underwater for good. At that point they will just pull the plug and all your characters and work and effort in this game will stop existing. They will leave with the money and you will live with the bitter taste.

Old crew left because they had no word on the evolution of this game. And as halrath/denomenator said, BHS likes it that way.
Felhammer wrote: »
Tera's always been a rocky game. But you can't sit there and deny that since certain updates and patches the game itself is suffering. Populations have dropped , PvP clings to life by a thread (if you dare factor in power hours I'll just facepalm then facedesk till my nose breaks because power hours honestly are nothing more than a bandaid with holes), The lag issue that's gone on for a year was honestly un heard of in the past (at least from when I started). From my standpoint it's like no one has any idea what is going on with these issues anymore. You can throw the real numbers of people "playing" but I can tell you now the majority of those "playing" are AFK / talking on discord or tabbed out on another game.
I don't think anyone can deny that the game is on a long and steady decline (that arguably it has been on since the get-go). The live services team at BHS is smaller than before, as appear to be the supporting teams at the various publishers around the world (including EME). TERA exists within a very small niche, and they don't seem to have the wherewithal to grow beyond that niche. That said... I think they've found a way to keep the game profitable, even at this scale. For this reason, the game isn't dead -- and I imagine it'll remain alive for some time to come.

That said... the lag issue is quite complex with many contributing causes (many of which actually have been improved bit by bit). I do know there have been many efforts at EME and BHS to address issues, but I would like to see them be more visible/upfront about the steps they're taking. In my opinion, the biggest failure related to this issue has been communication.

Felhammer wrote: »
So in other words Bluehole and Eme are up a crap creek without a paddle let alone a boat. I honestly hope that Tera does bounce back at some point. Compared to a year or 2 ago Tera's really become worse off than what it used to be. There was a time I'd happily spend the day PvPing or even mass farming (RG for a day anyone?) but for now I'll stick to the break I'm taking.
If you want my personal opinion, BHS needs to pick one specific target audience to go after in earnest and really earn their trust back with a focused effort. For several years now, I've felt that the problem is that the game lacks strong directorial vision and they try to be all things to all people and end up doing everything poorly. It's been enough to keep "getting them by" but if you want them to "bounce back" I don't think it will ever be enough. I do think they appear to be taking some steps to gradually address some long-standing concerns (like the latest changes in K-TERA regarding gearing/enchanting/awakening) but everything feels in slow motion. The community certainly has this sort of anxiety that demands a sense of crisis, and they want to see BHS take major steps to totally turn the tides... but that just doesn't seem to be BHS's way. They're just slowly plodding along doing this and that to revamp systems one by one, and no one in the community feels a really clear picture of "this is the vision for TERA" or an assurance that in <x> period of time the game will surely be in a better place. It makes them wonder if anyone at BHS has that sort of big picture vision in the first place.

Anyway... the game certainly isn't dead, and despite all the issues it's still fun to play. But I don't think I could recommend people put all their eggs into this basket by any means unless they can also accept the shortcomings for what they are. (Personally putting all my focus on one game was never my style to begin with, but I know some people do like to treat MMOs that way.)
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

I agree. Played both Revelation and BnS, both games were amazing in the start and fun, and costumes on BnS are really wesome but then Revelation went full mode p2w and you couldnt catch up to the wallet warriors in terms of pvp anymore and get 1 shot by a single skill.

BnS went full p2w now aswel since mats needed for upgrades are all in the item shop and people basically p2w legendary accessories and have insane lfg requirements. So i went back to tera and best decision ever made xD Gives it still has flaws like it used to still one of the best f2p games out there and its not as grindy as it used to be in the early VM days.
maxis1 wrote: »
Well if the dev team would make the game run better than 20fps with more than 3 people in the same place but we know this game is over. imo it just a matter of time unless the Xbox saves it. PubG has take 1000% of their focus.

in theory on console tera should sell more on ps4 than xbox

i think you confuse with black desert :)
Well if the dev team would make the game run better than 20fps with more than 3 people in the same place but we know this game is over. imo it just a matter of time unless the Xbox saves it. PubG has take 1000% of their focus.
Felhammer wrote: »
"Most of the problems with TERA are so far above EME's heads that nobody can fundamentally solve it. Even beyond the game's directorial vision itself, the problems stem from decisions to consolidate builds, change the release cycle, and do less local market customization."

I understand this but it looks like there are some people that cry for mommy and daddy to return because they think they will solve the problems they cant do anything about it, and they try to compare people that left the game without solving any of the issues at hand and trow faults at the current staff (not that they have solved any).

I only point that all problems people cry now days in forums are problems even in BETA.
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

None of the EME people you're talking about have anything to do with "the lag" at all -- you're talking about producers and the community team. They can't do anything about lag even if they wanted to. Besides, all this concern about "the lag" has really happened in the last year, long after these people already left, so the "rumor" doesn't even make any sense.

Also, none of them left EME because they were particularly upset or disturbed by the state of TERA as a game; they've each, independently, spoken about this. Working at a gaming company is a job; obviously you want to like the product you're working on, but your job isn't dependent on religious-like belief in the game you're assigned to. They didn't quit their jobs because they "lost faith" in TERA the way some people in the community have. Most of them moved onto other things that simply furthered their life goals (Minea got to travel the world, Tonka got career advancement in IT, Harmonia got to work directly for a developer, and Treeshark got to work on a new kind of RPG project). Changing jobs frequently is the norm in the gaming industry (particularly in production and community roles), and they had each worked in the same job for much longer than average.

I think we need to respect the former staff, but your suggestion that they could have saved the game from whatever problems it has now seems baseless. Most of the problems with TERA are so far above EME's heads that nobody can fundamentally solve it. Even beyond the game's directorial vision itself, the problems stem from decisions to consolidate builds, change the release cycle, and do less local market customization. They also stem from EME's decision to diversify its gaming portfolio, and so have less staff solely-focused on TERA (with a much "leaner" community team). Even if the staff hadn't changed, most of the same issues we have now would remain because they're based on decisions made at a much higher level.

All in all, if you're going to look back at the past, also remember the big problems we had in those days too. TERA has been on a rocky path since the start, and all the various staff have tried in their own way to have an impact. In the end, this sort of sometimes-misplaced nostalgia doesn't really do anything to improve TERA in the here and now.

To the children still throwing pacifiers at one another re read counter points post it was to address the points you have made.

@counterpoint - Tera's always been a rocky game. But you can't sit there and deny that since certain updates and patches the game itself is suffering. Populations have dropped , PvP clings to life by a thread (if you dare factor in power hours I'll just facepalm then facedesk till my nose breaks because power hours honestly are nothing more than a bandaid with holes), The lag issue that's gone on for a year was honestly un heard of in the past (at least from when I started). From my standpoint it's like no one has any idea what is going on with these issues anymore. You can throw the real numbers of people "playing" but I can tell you now the majority of those "playing" are AFK / talking on discord or tabbed out on another game.

"Most of the problems with TERA are so far above EME's heads that nobody can fundamentally solve it. Even beyond the game's directorial vision itself, the problems stem from decisions to consolidate builds, change the release cycle, and do less local market customization."

So in other words Bluehole and Eme are up a crap creek without a paddle let alone a boat. I honestly hope that Tera does bounce back at some point. Compared to a year or 2 ago Tera's really become worse off than what it used to be. There was a time I'd happily spend the day PvPing or even mass farming (RG for a day anyone?) but for now I'll stick to the break I'm taking.
kubitoid wrote: »
is blue whale better than pink one?

i love pink shrimp, pink lobster and pink salmon B)
is blue whale better than pink one?
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked

Oh! So you deny that new staff have tried also?

You are only showing a blind fate on people that abandoned you and the comunity becuase they were afriad to face hardships, instead they runaway and jumped ship.

As you said in this last post, the first EME team is not capable, can't do anything, have no guts and jump ship at the first sign of rain (not even a storm).

That kind of people is not what this comunity needs as they choose to abandoned you.

So much love you show for someone that give their back to this comunity.

listen little elin, i dont know when you joined tera but tonka and minea did more for us than the current enmasse and bhs team, so have fun to spit to them, obviously you never know the golden age of tera

Listen little child, seems like you don't even know what king of issues the previous and current eme staff can really work around to solve but is easier for you to spit current staff becuase they are the ones who are trying to solve them, however you idealize and idolize previous staff members that choose to jump out from a ship with lots of hardships since they started and have been more dificult to handle becuase external issues and bhs issues.

Just live with it and understand it "they ran away and there is nothing they could do" if you label current crew as incompetent becuase they are trying then previous crew is worse than the current ones.

And if you lack of memory i invite you to read again the previous forums so you can see how they couldn't get along with all people just like now.

If they really could have solved EME problems then BHS never would allow them to left and maybe they would have a really good offer so they don't leave but they left becuase they couldn't do more than to handle mats and stuff to whiners just like now is done, nothing has changed since more than 4 years that i have been playing this game.

They had to handle whiners becuase the game was too hard, becuase doing quest was so unrewarding, becuase lag, becuase enchanting sucks, becuase crafting was a hassle and guess what, current players cry lots to current staff becuase the same thing even when everything else (except lag) has been at the hand of almost most players.

If I have to tell you this only lag has been the real issue current and previous crew never solved and becuase NA network backbone this problem will never be solved for many players, about the other things previous crew couldn't stop pvp to die and couldn't stop PvE content to be removed, botting was something too common those days and many of your precious low level areas filled with players were most bots.

Suck it up already.

wow now i understand why in this post https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/16311/improve-vshm/p7
people have problem with you, yup you are a true blue whale :)

anyway i hope you were there before tonka and minea left

about current team, they admit themselve than the majority of them didnt know tera before to join enmasse team, so they learn the game on the field and obviously they didnt know how was tera in 2012, i think only araya is the only original enmasse employee who is still with us and like i said the original enmasse team was there when the original bhs team still worked on tera, but now than they are all gone we lost all their original plan and knowledge about tera and since 2 years we only get weird decision from bhs and i am not too confident than our current enmasse team know how was tera while the golden age of tera

but anyway normally i ignore your white knight, but it seem than when we critic enmasse you are among the first people to be [filtered] off, so maybe you will be in the future among the player council, especially a blue whale like you ;)

and i am sorry to call you little elin, instead i have to call you miss blue whale :)
Keep releasing all this lolita bait and the game will be banned by western goverments soon enough.
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked

Oh! So you deny that new staff have tried also?

You are only showing a blind fate on people that abandoned you and the comunity becuase they were afriad to face hardships, instead they runaway and jumped ship.

As you said in this last post, the first EME team is not capable, can't do anything, have no guts and jump ship at the first sign of rain (not even a storm).

That kind of people is not what this comunity needs as they choose to abandoned you.

So much love you show for someone that give their back to this comunity.

listen little elin, i dont know when you joined tera but tonka and minea did more for us than the current enmasse and bhs team, so have fun to spit to them, obviously you never know the golden age of tera

Listen little child, seems like you don't even know what king of issues the previous and current eme staff can really work around to solve but is easier for you to spit current staff becuase they are the ones who are trying to solve them, however you idealize and idolize previous staff members that choose to jump out from a ship with lots of hardships since they started and have been more dificult to handle becuase external issues and bhs issues.

Just live with it and understand it "they ran away and there is nothing they could do" if you label current crew as incompetent becuase they are trying then previous crew is worse than the current ones.

And if you lack of memory i invite you to read again the previous forums so you can see how they couldn't get along with all people just like now.

If they really could have solved EME problems then BHS never would allow them to left and maybe they would have a really good offer so they don't leave but they left becuase they couldn't do more than to handle mats and stuff to whiners just like now is done, nothing has changed since more than 4 years that i have been playing this game.

They had to handle whiners becuase the game was too hard, becuase doing quest was so unrewarding, becuase lag, becuase enchanting sucks, becuase crafting was a hassle and guess what, current players cry lots to current staff becuase the same thing even when everything else (except lag) has been at the hand of almost most players.

If I have to tell you this only lag has been the real issue current and previous crew never solved and becuase NA network backbone this problem will never be solved for many players, about the other things previous crew couldn't stop pvp to die and couldn't stop PvE content to be removed, botting was something too common those days and many of your precious low level areas filled with players were most bots.

Suck it up already.
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

None of the EME people you're talking about have anything to do with "the lag" at all -- you're talking about producers and the community team. They can't do anything about lag even if they wanted to. Besides, all this concern about "the lag" has really happened in the last year, long after these people already left, so the "rumor" doesn't even make any sense.

Also, none of them left EME because they were particularly upset or disturbed by the state of TERA as a game; they've each, independently, spoken about this. Working at a gaming company is a job; obviously you want to like the product you're working on, but your job isn't dependent on religious-like belief in the game you're assigned to. They didn't quit their jobs because they "lost faith" in TERA the way some people in the community have. Most of them moved onto other things that simply furthered their life goals (Minea got to travel the world, Tonka got career advancement in IT, Harmonia got to work directly for a developer, and Treeshark got to work on a new kind of RPG project). Changing jobs frequently is the norm in the gaming industry (particularly in production and community roles), and they had each worked in the same job for much longer than average.

I think we need to respect the former staff, but your suggestion that they could have saved the game from whatever problems it has now seems baseless. Most of the problems with TERA are so far above EME's heads that nobody can fundamentally solve it. Even beyond the game's directorial vision itself, the problems stem from decisions to consolidate builds, change the release cycle, and do less local market customization. They also stem from EME's decision to diversify its gaming portfolio, and so have less staff solely-focused on TERA (with a much "leaner" community team). Even if the staff hadn't changed, most of the same issues we have now would remain because they're based on decisions made at a much higher level.

All in all, if you're going to look back at the past, also remember the big problems we had in those days too. TERA has been on a rocky path since the start, and all the various staff have tried in their own way to have an impact. In the end, this sort of sometimes-misplaced nostalgia doesn't really do anything to improve TERA in the here and now.

show me where i said than the lag is because enmasse pls mister counterpoint show me it?

i said than they try to find a solution with bhs and bhs just ignore them

sorry but it is what i heard about tonka than he was upset than bhs or enmasse just let our tera to sink

well if you read all the thread and not only my post i answer to a dude who thought than if enmasse bought tera america and do what they want, they may save tera it is to this dude i answer, so pls read the full thread instead my only post, else your post doesnt made sense

it is to this guy i answer, so your post is irrelevant
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

None of the EME people you're talking about have anything to do with "the lag" at all -- you're talking about producers and the community team. They can't do anything about lag even if they wanted to. Besides, all this concern about "the lag" has really happened in the last year, long after these people already left, so the "rumor" doesn't even make any sense.

Also, none of them left EME because they were particularly upset or disturbed by the state of TERA as a game; they've each, independently, spoken about this. Working at a gaming company is a job; obviously you want to like the product you're working on, but your job isn't dependent on religious-like belief in the game you're assigned to. They didn't quit their jobs because they "lost faith" in TERA the way some people in the community have. Most of them moved onto other things that simply furthered their life goals (Minea got to travel the world, Tonka got career advancement in IT, Harmonia got to work directly for a developer, and Treeshark got to work on a new kind of RPG project). Changing jobs frequently is the norm in the gaming industry (particularly in production and community roles), and they had each worked in the same job for much longer than average.

I think we need to respect the former staff, but your suggestion that they could have saved the game from whatever problems it has now seems baseless. Most of the problems with TERA are so far above EME's heads that nobody can fundamentally solve it. Even beyond the game's directorial vision itself, the problems stem from decisions to consolidate builds, change the release cycle, and do less local market customization. They also stem from EME's decision to diversify its gaming portfolio, and so have less staff solely-focused on TERA (with a much "leaner" community team). Even if the staff hadn't changed, most of the same issues we have now would remain because they're based on decisions made at a much higher level.

All in all, if you're going to look back at the past, also remember the big problems we had in those days too. TERA has been on a rocky path since the start, and all the various staff have tried in their own way to have an impact. In the end, this sort of sometimes-misplaced nostalgia doesn't really do anything to improve TERA in the here and now.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked

Oh! So you deny that new staff have tried also?

You are only showing a blind fate on people that abandoned you and the comunity becuase they were afriad to face hardships, instead they runaway and jumped ship.

As you said in this last post, the first EME team is not capable, can't do anything, have no guts and jump ship at the first sign of rain (not even a storm).

That kind of people is not what this comunity needs as they choose to abandoned you.

So much love you show for someone that give their back to this comunity.

listen little elin, i dont know when you joined tera but tonka and minea did more for us than the current enmasse and bhs team, so have fun to spit to them, obviously you never know the golden age of tera
Rathgar wrote: »
I feel I'm in the minority by not being Elite at this time
you'll never walk alone
I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera
i just wish eme acquire C9 rights from webzen somehow instead of this useless kritika
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked

Oh! So you deny that new staff have tried also?

You are only showing a blind fate on people that abandoned you and the comunity becuase they were afriad to face hardships, instead they runaway and jumped ship.

As you said in this last post, the first EME team is not capable, can't do anything, have no guts and jump ship at the first sign of rain (not even a storm).

That kind of people is not what this comunity needs as they choose to abandoned you.

So much love you show for someone that give their back to this comunity.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.

they tried to do something, what i heard they tried to find a solution against the lag, but bhs seem to say to them [filtered] off and anyway like i said at this time bhs first team already left, so it was the new bhs team than the original enmasse team was stuck with

the new enmasse team has came after the end of alliance, so i dont see them to understand how was tera when the original bhs team still worked
I feel I'm in the minority by not being Elite at this time. People are handing over their money and that goes a long way to keeping games from sun setting. Heck, I still play Everquest 18 years it's been around. If an MMO keeps revenue streams coming, the game is here to stay.
Best f2p MMO tera, way less p2w, why dies? We argue about Tera and criticize b/c we know it can even get better and bigger.

and recently since 5th anniversary has been tied with community and reacts to their feedback so well that we had good events, improvements to servers, patch notes, announcements, staff forums activity, in game activity, support. if things get to stay this way and improve more, Tera will be even bigger. Since BHS is also reflecting more changes to the game base on community's feedback, they are still stupid though.
vkobe wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)

More than a reason to point the previuos crew as worse than the new becuase they were afraid of taking challenges.

I won't never hire a person who jumped from a ship becuase they can't withstand a little storm.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.

because the ship is really sink ;)
Palomina wrote: »
LegateTR wrote: »
It's not dead or dying, the population is fine.

Tera isn't dead for sure but if you think that population is 'fine' for a MMO then sorry but you are out of your mind lol

actually a population IS fine if it can support the game, keep it from shutting down and new content keeps coming. you know when an MMO's population is NOT fine, game shuts down or it reduces servers and no new content is made.
vkobe wrote: »
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone

The original team runaway from this, that is more than enought to tell you that they are not that great as you make them look.

If anything current crew are better than the past becuase they are dealing with all the things the previous EME team runaway and didnt wanted to face.

You are giving too much credit to people who jump out from a ship because they think is sinking.
gayweather
Palomina wrote: »
LegateTR wrote: »
It's not dead or dying, the population is fine.

Tera isn't dead for sure but if you think that population is 'fine' for a MMO then sorry but you are out of your mind lol

he is right, if we fall to only one server and than this server is empty yes the popu is not fine, but because tr and mt work well, tera enmasse popu is not so bad
LegateTR wrote: »
It's not dead or dying, the population is fine.

Tera isn't dead for sure but if you think that population is 'fine' for a MMO then sorry but you are out of your mind lol
Valcure wrote: »
What do you consider dead? There are basically no guilds recruiting and no one talking about this game on social media (reddit etc). The starter zones are a complete ghost town and every server besides MT barely has a pulse.

The only people playing this game are poor and can't afford to pay for a real MMO experience.

I'm assuming you play since you're in forums. Are you poor as well? The struggles am I right?
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.

i dont think enmasse can really help, the original enmasse team left, it was them that could made tera great again, is the same thing with bhs the original team is gone
So now the real test is who actually watched the live stream... (or, conversely, recognizes the poster...)
Delayed? More like never coming.
tera isn't dead, but it has lost many many people over the past couple of years. the population isn't great, not nearly like it was. I still feel like tera is the best f2p mmorpg out there. all the hyped up ones like revelation online and blade and soul, just don't have what tera has. I just wish that bhs would let eme have free reigns on tera and maybe tera would be really great again.
Valcure wrote: »
The only people playing this game are poor and can't afford to pay for a real MMO experience.
daaaaaaam. and i thought only ppl who still play this game are rich ones who can afford anything they want. stupid me
ye tera console release after black desert xbox :3
Again "Tera is dying" thread!
Find job and go away with this bs.
LegateTR wrote: »
The whole "this game is dead" thing has become a washed out meme. It's not dead or dying, the population is fine.

cool, I didn't know we had people from Egypt playing tera.....you must live next to da nile.....lol
I really hope console players get to play on the same server as pc players
The whole "this game is dead" thing has become a washed out meme. It's not dead or dying, the population is fine.
If that means the devs are taking they're time to work out all the kinks so that the [filtered] works properly (enough) at launch, I'm all for it.
If people come here to check if the game is dead, it makes you wonder if the game they're playing is dead, too.

Also, what is a real MMO experience?
Valcure wrote: »
What do you consider dead? There are basically no guilds recruiting and no one talking about this game on social media (reddit etc). The starter zones are a complete ghost town and every server besides MT barely has a pulse.

The only people playing this game are poor and can't afford to pay for a real MMO experience.

nope it is because cute elin and friends and anyway it is not like the other mmorpg are so better, be careful in what do you wish ;)
Valcure wrote: »
What do you consider dead? There are basically no guilds recruiting and no one talking about this game on social media (reddit etc). The starter zones are a complete ghost town and every server besides MT barely has a pulse.

The only people playing this game are poor and can't afford to pay for a real MMO experience.

and spend time in forums too :awesome:
Incredible I know. Does have a good F2P model I think that keeps it alive. Any other game still droning on with 4+ year old content would have died off already.
Valcure wrote: »
What do you consider dead? There are basically no guilds recruiting and no one talking about this game on social media (reddit etc). The starter zones are a complete ghost town and every server besides MT barely has a pulse.

The only people playing this game are poor and can't afford to pay for a real MMO experience.

"real MMO experience" where????

population of actually good mmo town: 0
Valcure wrote: »
The only people playing this game are poor and can't afford to pay for a real MMO experience.

And yet you need a high end pc to get decent fps in this game, so cruel
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