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Kenzy175 wrote: »
at this point i just hope that u're trolling with "as there are several consistent methods already available to farm them. " the guy literally told you how many dungeons you have to do in order to get ONE blue noc that in the best case scenario gonna last ONE run.
the "consistent methods" involve running other dungeons without nocts to save up to buy them, or doing things like pvp (anywhere from 2-5 wins for a noct depending on jackpot amount), p4 (2x nocts per clear, profit even if you use one) and even buying lootboxes (average chance, buyable with gold)

having top gear and the ability to clear any dungeon doesn't mean that you're somehow 'locked out' of doing different content.
Kenzy175 wrote: »
***NOTE: E V E R Y O T H E R R E G I O N gives bluenocs like candy***
can you prove this? i thought we were going on about how only eu does.

1° - If you force endgame players to do lowbie content they mostly likely will act elitist since they want to clear it asap which means they not gonna take the undergeared/new people ( which eme was complaining on LKNM event ) also whats the point about force people that are geared and experienced in the game act like a slave farming low content meanwhile they literally could do "fun" stuff like AAHM for example ?_? it just doesnt make any sense to me.

2° - I'll find pictures and i'm not aware of all the methods of obtain bluenoc yet but i do have friends that played there and i'll ask for it, afaik they dont have any problems acquiring bluenocs.
• Ktera 200 vg ( 30 mins )
• Jtera not sure about vg price but theres bluenoc on elite bar
• RU Not sure about the methods but my friend that played there had [filtered] loads of bluenoc
I'll find out how they give out them but i can say for sure that issues with bluenoc is a NA thing.
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They drop nothing, really?

Thanks for not letting me know so I don't waste my time with that.

I really don't get why EME at all.

Most recent stuff has been happening lately

1. Taking lots of EMP stuff away from store
2. Random server outages ruining ppl's run.
3. Not taking advice about the coin shop.
4. We are one of the rare servers that doesn't have little velik helper on AAHM yet so I've seen bad non-awakened players ruining enrage timer on AAHM last boss where they are kicked from party and those ppl ends up quiting the game cause nobody takes them.
5. Xigncode that ended up promoting and encouraging people to use Broxy
6. Then they do strongbox key event with no purpose since no more jackpot.
7. Daily deals are unorganized and having fashion coupons is downright disrespectful to your playerbase.

I could go on and on but the list just keeps growing.
Oppabo wrote: »
Beautiful art - I love the shading!!
May I ask what server you're accepting gold on? uwu

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I've added my servers in the "Contacts" list, I completely forgot!
Beautiful art - I love the shading!!
May I ask what server you're accepting gold on? uwu
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KitTeaCup wrote: »
@CassandraTR As the newbie, I need a little more context.

Could you please specify what the fashion coupons were for and what shop updates do you mean?

Thanks!

Hey KitTeaCup (since there wasn't an official 'welcome' as the new CM, let me take the time to welcome you to the forums, I've missed the streams you've been in, but went back and watched it. I love your personality. You're like me. We'll be great friends. :)), what Cassandra is wanting (if it wasn't obvious, it isn't related to the topic at hand), is the second part of this;
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/21373/fashion-coupon-store-update-phase-1/p1

Sean and Ryan had been working on updating the Fashion Coupon shop, they took out a bunch of items like NPC Summon scrolls, among other items when they added the list of items requested by the community to the shop. Since then, players have been waiting on Phase 2 (nearly 4 months later) which would hopefully restore said NPC Summon scrolls, among other items that were removed during Phase 1.

(Along with this, others will probably come along asking where the ACE Dungeon Shop and other updates we were told we'd get ages ago, but you wouldn't know much about these. However there's a list by @Zoknahal here;
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/26788/tera-pc-update-reminder/p1)

I'd just love to see what Sean mentioned above buy X amount of items, get X free. (He only mentioned 1, but I figure these numbers can be interchangeable and subject to change based on how Sean is feeling, how rare the item is, among other things.)
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Does Tera have to crash and burn in order for people to leave though? It's as if people fell they need to bring Tera down, because if Tera exists without them, they'll be missing something. So what if there isn't a mass exodus?
RandomElin wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
Starkhoe wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
What replies to the xigncode fallout are you refering to that were made by EME employees? I mean replies from after all chaos started breaking lose after xigncode was pushed out. I haven't seen one. Its almost like EME has become missing in action since the fallout started. I only recall one post by an EME employee in this time frame and it was about loading screens, was short, and appeared rushed. It makes me wonder if something is going on behind the scenes on this. I really don't know what is up with EME, though.

I was talking in general about their overall attitude in all manner of things, not just this incident. But sure i`ll be specific. See i`m not going to link you every single reply they ever made in the entire forum because just to further prove a point, because that would take me hours and I don`t care enough about this to do something like that. That would be insane. But here is a good example to what i`m talking about. That comment was posted after they closed the original thread about XIGNCODE.

Read that and tell me if you feel like you`re in capable hands in here lol

That is not a good example of what you are talking about. I don't believe there is one comment from an EME employee in that thread so far.

The other was from before the fallout had really picked up. That is what I'm referring to. Since the fallout had really kicked into full gear, EME seems to have effectively vanished (save for that one short, rushed looking post that had nothing to do with the fallout) as far as these forums are concerned. I find it had to believe that they are afraid to show their face on the forums. Just what is EME doing?

Correction. Should read that I find it hard to believe that they are afraid to show their face on the forums.

What are they going to say? BHS has demanded we use this, and there isn't anything you or us can do about it? It's a no win situation.
Never played WoW, never will.

Good for you.
F_u c k Xigncode; F u_c k your metamorphic emblem changes; F u c_k your progression changes; F_u_c k awakened classes; and last but not least F_u_c_k you, the game developer; you have humbly earned this F. u. c. k. U., straight from the heart. <3
Who else can't wait till we can all just admit that every one of these korean cash grab "free to play" mmo's have to bow before the real master of quality, content, and time. You all have a short break till August to play every sh i t t y game on the internet. See you all in WoW come August. ;)
PhantomV wrote: »
Well thanks for the lengthy and well thought out reply. No, I am not a millionaire, I make okay money. I only made that comparison because fast food workers get paid way too much for doing a do-nothing job that can be automated, and are still asking for more, which I am against. Why do they get an increase yet I still sit at my current salary.. doing a more difficult task. maybe not the best comparison, but the only one I could think of at the time.

Actually it wasn't that thought out, but you`re welcome. You`re topic interested me. I was simply trying to point out things which are common sense. Ive noticed that alot of people here jumped on you without attempting to see what you`re trying to say. And you admitting that you did not use the correct choice of analogies, speaks well of you`re intentions. I`m sure that you already know how quickly people go for Meme-culture types of replies and one liners, which mean nothing, instead of explaining what they actually mean. In other words, ive noticed that people are trying to "beat you", instead of having an actual discussion. This is a common phenomena, and I personally do not believe that issues that you have raised should be resolved in conflict. In any event, past is past, and one can always start anew.
PhantomV wrote: »
Second, I hear what you're saying, but to some people, fun is to make lots of money in game. Not everyone defines what is a hobby the same, or how to play the game the same. I find enjoyment in seeing a bank full of money, free to buy whatever I want. I just think that the money you get from soloing is way disproportionate to how much you get for doing dungeons. Going by my bad comparison, I feel like you should be rewarded for skill and talent or whatever you want to call it, more than brainless work. The higher tier it goes the more reward you get. It used to be how games worked didn't it? You can solo grind all day but unless you could participate in mvps, raids, wars, you didnt really have good gear. (As far as the xp arguement goes, a person can technically just solo all day, make good money, and buy the gear off broker or buy mats when needed. Not sure how viable that is?)

As I said before, I agreed with you that the solo content is quite profitable. Though I will point out that the XP becomes a real factor once you start getting to +8 and above. I mean, yes, technically a person can grind nonsense and get as much XP as they want, if they don't mind spending alot more hours of doing the same repetitive garbage. Not to mention, that IOD + Legion + Ghilli + Pit is soul crushing. I can`t speak for others, but when i log in I don't feel like doing that sorta stuff, I want to participate in actual dungeons, and enjoy the illusion that i`m playing a game whos developers actually care about their players. I`m being sarcastic of course, I know that Tera NA is nothing more then an experimental trash can for BHS for milking money. Which is one of the many reasons why I don't take this game seriously.
PhantomV wrote: »
I have no problem with the people who have a life and just want to relax and grind a little solo. Thats okay. But they can easily do that on a main with increased vanguards and other things, account bound... would make their life easier also. Dont have to gear up other things.. They have the choice to do them on alts as well if they wish. If they really have not a lot of time, they wouldnt be able to do it on like 8 chars anyway. For someone like me who has about 4 or 5 hours a day to play, once Im done with all my solo things and dungeons, I'm forced to play on alts for an hour or two, or else I get nothing, and I don't remember many games that made alt play a necessity to be ahead of the curve

Way I see it, as someone that has a battalion of fully geared chars, which are skilled in all relevant dungeons, honestly I simply see no use in drawing all these comperasments. As I said before, you`re right about solo content being more profitable and creating a situation where more people with SC are simply not that reliable. However, I still stand by what i said about how the current patch is better then the older ones, in the prospective that more people are able to obtain endgame gear these days. It does add to the numbers, which are you might already know, are lacking quite a bit. 1/10 healers are god awful, 1/10 tanks don't know how aggro works. But the solo content is now what caused this phenomena, it is the gaming culture in general that brought this to life. Personally, i`m not an elitist, I only want basic functionality from players. And yes, the XP argument is still a valid one. Grinding solo content is alot slower.
Meanwhile, as someone from the potato PC nation, im still waiting for an official reply about all the things that people have been raising here. XIGNCODE did not stop gold spammers, it did not stop cheaters, it did not improve game performance (it only made it worse), and I have yet to see a single proven positive attribute for having XIGNCODE in Tera. Nobody wants it. If anything from what I can see the only thing that XIGNCODE has done, is to push people to go outta their way and resort to none official solutions just in order to play the game.

BHS, you like waving policy and preach against third party software, yet you implement one yourselves? you claim to want to hear what people have to say, yet you can`t even bother to open an official thread on you're own accord? EME, how long before you run out of excuses and smug one liners, and give the people something they actually want?
Starkhoe wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Tera doing dungeons = Working a real job
Tera solo = Working at McDonalds

Flippin burgers and being lazy and useless shouldn't allow you equal or better rewards.

I kind of have a problem with that attitude. For starters: actual jobs pay money. Even the so called "lazy burger flippers" as you called them are in fact making more money then you ever did in Tera, and they can in fact save up to buy EMP and obtain a full +9 SC set, and beyond. Would that make them good players? so called "equals"? nobody knows the answer to that because gaming talent is not limited to a persons paycheck. Neither is their intelligence btw. However doing that would certainly save them the trouble of grinding IOD and dungeons alike. And, no, I don`t work at McDonalds, but I think that every job respects its owners. I`m just trying to put that in prospective because it should be said. What you`re talking about, while perhaps not by intention, comes out as life "real life elitism" in a sense. And while that has nothing to do with the game, I kinda doubt that you`re some white collar millionaire. Just something to think about. You don`t have to reply to that.

Second, I don`t know about you, but when I log into Tera i don`t come here to do "work", I come here as a pass time. A hobby. And I feel very sorry for people that treat this game otherwise. Look around you, nothing about this game even hints that it should be taken seriously. I get what you`re trying to say: you`re trying to say that the way that Tera is built these days does not encourage people to do dungeons because the solo content offers quicker payoffs. Correct me if I was wrong about that being you`re bottom line. But if that`s the case, then that statement is only partially correct. Yes the solo content does offer better income then dungeons. Imo those are pennies, but you`re right about that. However, for many people time is of the essence. People with jobs, families and a life don`t have all day to grind solo content for XP because they can`t play all day, and the XP from the solo content just isn't enough. And the same principle can be applied if you`re want to use the BG argument over actual endgame mats. Yes, you can get BiS mats from BGs. But, depending on the hour, those can take around 40m to get into on a good day, and you need to win for it to be worth you`re while. In other words, thats alot of time that gets wasted doing, what. Id rather use that time to play with my statics, instead of running after the lag feast that is Legion, or whatever else.

My point being: yes solo content makes you rich and its mindless, you`re right about that. But if a person has a life, then all that gold is worthless without XP. Dungeons give better XP. Besides. Overall the way that Tera works right now makes life easier. It doesn't mean it has to be a bad thing. I`m happy that everyone has more options now. Not everything has to be a contest. More geared players = more people to play with. Including solo players btw, which also have statics and many of which run all endgame content. And, no, i`m not "attacking you". I`m just saying that perhaps you should put some things in prospective, thats all. I mean.. really. Who cares about how other people spend their time. Use yours productively.

Well thanks for the lengthy and well thought out reply. No, I am not a millionaire, I make okay money. I only made that comparison because fast food workers get paid way too much for doing a do-nothing job that can be automated, and are still asking for more, which I am against. Why do they get an increase yet I still sit at my current salary.. doing a more difficult task. maybe not the best comparison, but the only one I could think of at the time.

Second, I hear what you're saying, but to some people, fun is to make lots of money in game. Not everyone defines what is a hobby the same, or how to play the game the same. I find enjoyment in seeing a bank full of money, free to buy whatever I want. I just think that the money you get from soloing is way disproportionate to how much you get for doing dungeons. Going by my bad comparison, I feel like you should be rewarded for skill and talent or whatever you want to call it, more than brainless work. The higher tier it goes the more reward you get. It used to be how games worked didn't it? You can solo grind all day but unless you could participate in mvps, raids, wars, you didnt really have good gear. (As far as the xp arguement goes, a person can technically just solo all day, make good money, and buy the gear off broker or buy mats when needed. Not sure how viable that is?)

I have no problem with the people who have a life and just want to relax and grind a little solo. Thats okay. But they can easily do that on a main with increased vanguards and other things, account bound... would make their life easier also. Dont have to gear up other things.. They have the choice to do them on alts as well if they wish. If they really have not a lot of time, they wouldnt be able to do it on like 8 chars anyway. For someone like me who has about 4 or 5 hours a day to play, once Im done with all my solo things and dungeons, I'm forced to play on alts for an hour or two, or else I get nothing, and I don't remember many games that made alt play a necessity to be ahead of the curve.
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

It depends what they feel like doing when it comes down to it. It isn't all about how quickly players can get gold.

For a lot of people I know it is though... I'm not sure we're on the same server, or same community. But players here will nickle and dime you every step of the way, offering 4800 gold for a 5000 gold item, etc. Always talking about how much they make in a day, what they could be doing better.. etc etc

Doesn't sound like "being forced to do solo content" is a real problem for those players, though. Sounds like their definition of fun in TERA is simply making gold (not necessarily doing solo content or party content).

Yes fair I can agree to that, maybe forced is not the correct word, but their definition of fun is indeed making a good income on the game.
PhantomV wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

It depends what they feel like doing when it comes down to it. It isn't all about how quickly players can get gold.

For a lot of people I know it is though... I'm not sure we're on the same server, or same community. But players here will nickle and dime you every step of the way, offering 4800 gold for a 5000 gold item, etc. Always talking about how much they make in a day, what they could be doing better.. etc etc

Doesn't sound like "being forced to do solo content" is a real problem for those players, though. Sounds like their definition of fun in TERA is simply making gold (not necessarily doing solo content or party content).
just do what you find fun in the game lol

if you REALLY cared about gold / hour you wouldn't even do any pve
PhantomV wrote: »
Tera doing dungeons = Working a real job
Tera solo = Working at McDonalds

Flippin burgers and being lazy and useless shouldn't allow you equal or better rewards.

I kind of have a problem with that attitude. For starters: actual jobs pay money. Even the so called "lazy burger flippers" as you called them are in fact making more money then you ever did in Tera, and they can in fact save up to buy EMP and obtain a full +9 SC set, and beyond. Would that make them good players? so called "equals"? nobody knows the answer to that because gaming talent is not limited to a persons paycheck. Neither is their intelligence btw. However doing that would certainly save them the trouble of grinding IOD and dungeons alike. And, no, I don`t work at McDonalds, but I think that every job respects its owners. I`m just trying to put that in prospective because it should be said. What you`re talking about, while perhaps not by intention, comes out as life "real life elitism" in a sense. And while that has nothing to do with the game, I kinda doubt that you`re some white collar millionaire. Just something to think about. You don`t have to reply to that.

Second, I don`t know about you, but when I log into Tera i don`t come here to do "work", I come here as a pass time. A hobby. And I feel very sorry for people that treat this game otherwise. Look around you, nothing about this game even hints that it should be taken seriously. I get what you`re trying to say: you`re trying to say that the way that Tera is built these days does not encourage people to do dungeons because the solo content offers quicker payoffs. Correct me if I was wrong about that being you`re bottom line. But if that`s the case, then that statement is only partially correct. Yes the solo content does offer better income then dungeons. Imo those are pennies, but you`re right about that. However, for many people time is of the essence. People with jobs, families and a life don`t have all day to grind solo content for XP because they can`t play all day, and the XP from the solo content just isn't enough. And the same principle can be applied if you`re want to use the BG argument over actual endgame mats. Yes, you can get BiS mats from BGs. But, depending on the hour, those can take around 40m to get into on a good day, and you need to win for it to be worth you`re while. In other words, thats alot of time that gets wasted doing, what. Id rather use that time to play with my statics, instead of running after the lag feast that is Legion, or whatever else.

My point being: yes solo content makes you rich and its mindless, you`re right about that. But if a person has a life, then all that gold is worthless without XP. Dungeons give better XP. Besides. Overall the way that Tera works right now makes life easier. It doesn't mean it has to be a bad thing. I`m happy that everyone has more options now. Not everything has to be a contest. More geared players = more people to play with. Including solo players btw, which also have statics and many of which run all endgame content. And, no, i`m not "attacking you". I`m just saying that perhaps you should put some things in prospective, thats all. I mean.. really. Who cares about how other people spend their time. Use yours productively.
Somebody else's success does not diminish you in any way, you're not required to follow the path of maximum gain just to compete with other people. Nothing is preventing you from doing whatever you want to do and simply playing this game for fun, at your own rate of progress and in your own time. If somebody else is progressing faster then you because they are running ghilliglade, pit of petrax and guardian missions across many alts for 14 hours a day then so what? it's not hurting you.
CornishRex wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Oh and fix the damn priest getting 187243019 guardian levels for doing nothing. k.
This is where we disagree. You still have to do a decent dps for a healer with dps rolls and crystals. It's not as easy and simple. And healers having an edge over dps in one particular type of solo content is perfectly fair because healers are at a disadvantage everywhere else. Plus we got nerfed in guardians like 2-3 times already.

Sorry, I know you healers are vital to everything, and some things need to be made a bit easier, but I wish there were a better system, because I inspect and see people bringing their alts in with literally no upgrades, just spamming some weird auto attack looking thing and ranking top 5.. I realy wouldnt mind if guardians were account bound (can raise cap to 60 or 80, if you're doing more than that idk, that shouldnt be what the game is) and priests were doing it on/as their main. It's not meant as an insult to healers, just feel like it's part of the problem when people in twist can outdo people in high fm or low sc on alternate characters, meaning theyre not even putting money in to upgrade those chars other than the bare minimum.

During ultra-hyper whatever time healers were op because they were able to spam their godmode without cd. Usually spamming auto attack won't net you a lot of points, in fact I don't even have it bound on my priest so idk.

Oh I see, maybe I'm wrong about that then. My bad, I never played a healer and dont know their skills
PhantomV wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Oh and fix the damn priest getting 187243019 guardian levels for doing nothing. k.
This is where we disagree. You still have to do a decent dps for a healer with dps rolls and crystals. It's not as easy and simple. And healers having an edge over dps in one particular type of solo content is perfectly fair because healers are at a disadvantage everywhere else. Plus we got nerfed in guardians like 2-3 times already.

Sorry, I know you healers are vital to everything, and some things need to be made a bit easier, but I wish there were a better system, because I inspect and see people bringing their alts in with literally no upgrades, just spamming some weird auto attack looking thing and ranking top 5.. I realy wouldnt mind if guardians were account bound (can raise cap to 60 or 80, if you're doing more than that idk, that shouldnt be what the game is) and priests were doing it on/as their main. It's not meant as an insult to healers, just feel like it's part of the problem when people in twist can outdo people in high fm or low sc on alternate characters, meaning theyre not even putting money in to upgrade those chars other than the bare minimum.

During ultra-hyper whatever time healers were op because they were able to spam their godmode without cd. Usually spamming auto attack won't net you a lot of points, in fact I don't even have it bound on my priest so idk.
CornishRex wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Oh and fix the damn priest getting 187243019 guardian levels for doing nothing. k.
This is where we disagree. You still have to do a decent dps for a healer with dps rolls and crystals. It's not as easy and simple. And healers having an edge over dps in one particular type of solo content is perfectly fair because healers are at a disadvantage everywhere else. Plus we got nerfed in guardians like 2-3 times already.

Sorry, I know you healers are vital to everything, and some things need to be made a bit easier, but I wish there were a better system, because I inspect and see people bringing their alts in with literally no upgrades, just spamming some weird auto attack looking thing and ranking top 5.. I realy wouldnt mind if guardians were account bound (can raise cap to 60 or 80, if you're doing more than that idk, that shouldnt be what the game is) and priests were doing it on/as their main. It's not meant as an insult to healers, just feel like it's part of the problem when people in twist can outdo people in high fm or low sc.
PhantomV wrote: »
Oh and fix the damn priest getting 187243019 guardian levels for doing nothing. k.
This is where we disagree. You still have to do a decent dps for a healer with dps rolls and crystals. It's not as easy and simple. And healers having an edge over dps in one particular type of solo content is perfectly fair because healers are at a disadvantage everywhere else. Plus we got nerfed in guardians like 2-3 times already.
Tera doing dungeons = Working a real job
Tera solo = Working at McDonalds

Flippin burgers and being lazy and useless shouldn't allow you equal or better rewards.
Christin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

People like you are the reason I am glad I dumped this game. Why would I ever want to play in a dungeon with you? You seem like the players that would totally blow the dungeon and go around blaming everyone else. People pay to have to those alts, so who are you to dictate what they can and can't do with them? Poor little guy doesn't get a dungeon handed to him. Well, it's not our fault you don't have any friends in game to play with. Maybe if you'd be nicer in game, you could find people to run with on your own. Of course, that isn't likely to ever happen.

People have been saying for them to make dungeons more lucrative, but they don't care. Don't punish players, because the devs won't listen.

Nice assumptions there old lady. I actually set up learning runs and am very patient with people willing to learn, because I want to encourage dungeon and party play rather than people being useless. The more the better, and my friendslist is plenty full. The problem is more leaning towards how many people want to do solo content rather than party these days due to the fact you can get 224 talents(Current market value roughly 15k. More if you craft) and 15k+ gold per character doing guardians. Now they also buffed doing bams by adding caimans for extra loot. Add on Ghillie/PoP.. Making about 35k there, minimum. One hour-90 min. Good luck making that in dungeons in equal time!
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

It depends what they feel like doing when it comes down to it. It isn't all about how quickly players can get gold.

For a lot of people I know it is though... I'm not sure we're on the same server, or same community. But players here will nickle and dime you every step of the way, offering 4800 gold for a 5000 gold item, etc. Always talking about how much they make in a day, what they could be doing better.. etc etc
Christin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

That's not what you're asking for though. You're asking for them to put account limits on solo content. If they put account limits on solo content, shouldn't they also put account limits on dungeons?

Uhh, they can do that as well.. I proposed an increase in vanguards etc for your account. The equivalent to playing 2 or 3 chars a day if you do everything, overall. As is I'm done everything on my main way too quickly, and thus at a huge disadvantage unless I play alts. I don't care actually if they made solo content a bit more challenging even. Or hell just get rid of the tier 1 bams giving so many talents. It's boring as [filtered], but people will farm it in ghetto guardian/twist gear all day. Oh and fix the damn priest getting 187243019 guardian levels for doing nothing. k.
Speaking as a member of the potato nation PC: major FPS drops, a lot more then the usual ones. Ping going nuts. Client freezing, crashes, some new glitches here and there. A bunch of my friends stopped playing. Oh right. Silly me. BHS doesn't care about things like that. I suppose you want me to address the things which are suppose to be official and "relevant" to XIGNCODE in specific. The reason why its suppose to be here, right.

Since the implantation of this useless malware, I keep seeing more gold scammers. I`m no where near being a psychologist but to me they seem to be quite happy and content with the current state of affairs. Oh right XIGNCODE isn't really against those, I forgot. Something else then. Well I have seen a few hackers here and there parading around glitching in and outta stuff, one shotting things they are not suppose too. I don`t know how those cheats are suppose to be called, but I call them "a prime example to why XIGNCODE is useless". In fact, since doing dungeons is quite an endeavor with all these constant lags, I have gotten bored enough to even take some time to talk with some of these people. And while I was reporting them, they did not seem to express any concern about XIGNCODE. Though if i had to guess, id say that it lags them aswell.

I realize that some people have super computers and good enough ping to support this malware. But I don`t. In fact I don`t care if other peoples stuff remains unaffected. See Ive seen people here go through so much trouble to prove that XIGNCODE is garbage, and all the strain on the PC and stuff that it does. Many well placed arguments and a battalion of Google vomits. But... if people want to talk about facts, then lets talk about about a fact which does not require Goolge or being a computer wiz: look at all the trouble people are going through just because of this so called "improvement". Nobody wants XIGNCODE. Literally. In fact this is so ridicules, that his has got to be maybe the first subject ive ever seen here that everyone agrees on lol
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

That's not what you're asking for though. You're asking for them to put account limits on solo content. If they put account limits on solo content, shouldn't they also put account limits on dungeons?
Christin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

People like you are the reason I am glad I dumped this game. Why would I ever want to play in a dungeon with you? You seem like the players that would totally blow the dungeon and go around blaming everyone else. People pay to have to those alts, so who are you to dictate what they can and can't do with them? Poor little guy doesn't get a dungeon handed to him. Well, it's not our fault you don't have any friends in game to play with. Maybe if you'd be nicer in game, you could find people to run with on your own. Of course, that isn't likely to ever happen.

People have been saying for them to make dungeons more lucrative, but they don't care. Don't punish players, because the devs won't listen.

You don't run dungeons anyway. You complain whenever you're told to group up to do anything. Also, I thought you were leaving?
Christin wrote: »
Tera has already been uninstalled from my system and my children's systems. It was nice while it lasted. Hope you all have fun dealing with the bs. I will have fun saving cash and have already found something else to play.
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

People like you are the reason I am glad I dumped this game. Why would I ever want to play in a dungeon with you? You seem like the players that would totally blow the dungeon and go around blaming everyone else. People pay to have to those alts, so who are you to dictate what they can and can't do with them? Poor little guy doesn't get a dungeon handed to him. Well, it's not our fault you don't have any friends in game to play with. Maybe if you'd be nicer in game, you could find people to run with on your own. Of course, that isn't likely to ever happen.

People have been saying for them to make dungeons more lucrative, but they don't care. Don't punish players, because the devs won't listen.
PhantomV wrote: »
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?

It depends what they feel like doing when it comes down to it. It isn't all about how quickly players can get gold.
You can say that by favoring one content over the other instead of balancing that a player is being punished though. Im really not sure what the difference is between a buff and a nerf at this point. Lets say I love doing dungeons but can only make 10k an hour, but a solo person can make 20k an hour.. what do you think people will want to do? Why is balancing it so that whichever content you decide to do, you're able to make 15k an hour?
PhantomV wrote: »
You were civil?? Your opening statement was a mockery, as in "funniest" laughing at me, because I should look in a mirror. That was an insult before you even had a discussion. That doesn't seem too civil to me.
tisnotme wrote: »
but I know you wont like my reply even tho I was civil but more so due to how you find me "blatantly ignorant or unintelligent"

knew youd reply like this as you couldn't even see the way you have tried thru this thread to be superior to others and dont like it when its being pointed out
and your really drawing a long bow trying to say I was being uncivil with that comment of mine especially after the you your self have treated others in this thread , ever heard the term "pot calling the kettle black" that's what u was finding funny with your comments and as too why I refereed to look in the mirror and if you couldn't see that then maybe you own comment of being "blatantly ignorant or unintelligent" might be best suited to a reply to this
how ever if I was to be uncivil instead of posting some thing like your "blatantly ignorant or unintelligent"
id be more inclined to post something more fitting like "grow up child and stop acting like a spoilt moron who hasn't got their own way

ReChoa wrote: »
Being able to earn more gold by spending time and gold to gear up more characters is completely fair, have you ever geared a single character past frost? It costs a lot if you haven't. Yeah low tier iod bams are too worth doing over dungeons (but ONLY during double vanguards) but that doesn't mean they should be nerfed, dungeons should be buffed instead and no one would mind that. You do have the choice to not have to make alts, you honestly save A LOT of gold by not gearing multiple characters to stormcry, or even frost. I do do dungeons very often, but punishing people for farming solo content on multiple alts is just stupid and would make the game lose many players.

agree
a player should be rewarded to do the content they do which should include dungeon rewards to suit and not punishing another player base to try and accomplish this
Hey, im totally fine with a buff to party stuff and keeping solo the same, I posted that also.. I just didnt make that the topic thread because those have existed plenty already within the last lil while, so figured id say.. ok if no buff, why not nerf just to even the playing ground. I just want choice, not 'the one choice is correct', and atm, solo per day i can make 80k in 4+ hours. Even if I got into great parties of all RKEM/RRHM/AAHM(not yet) and finished them super fast, the chances of that kind of money goes through rng on top of rng and wouldnt come close, I don't think.
just keep solo rewards the same and increase the rewards for dungeons since its normally harder content than the solo content. its a win win situation.
PhantomV wrote: »
My original post wasn't even that bad. I suggested a compromise somewhere between double vanguards for your account, 1 1/2 times guardians etc... not like I was screaming nerf it to the ground, but rather find some balance. Only 2 or 3 people bothered to respond with constructive criticism, the rest just spewed out attacks and why this is stupid, and that I must be on drugs or whatever. Basically the people who are taking advantage of the current system and happy with it I guess. Not sure why anyone who actually does dungeons wouldn't mind seeing a buff for them/slight nerf for solo content.... you don't want actual choice, you just want your choice to be the only one. I started replying with whatever [filtered] because thats all people wanted to do instead of actually stating why, or just being general sarcastic assholes.

Being able to earn more gold by spending time and gold to gear up more characters is completely fair, have you ever geared a single character past frost? It costs a lot if you haven't. Yeah low tier iod bams are too worth doing over dungeons (but ONLY during double vanguards) but that doesn't mean they should be nerfed, dungeons should be buffed instead and no one would mind that. You do have the choice to not have to make alts, you honestly save A LOT of gold by not gearing multiple characters to stormcry, or even frost. I do do dungeons very often, but punishing people for farming solo content on multiple alts is just stupid and would make the game lose many players.
If you would have left that part out I promise you I wouldnt have said anything bad to you, Im not here to attack people, I wish you all the best, but if someones going to insult me isnt it natural to insult back... in response to the rest of your post if you want to be civil... I dont care about strictly solo players, once again. I couldnt care less if they quit. I just want people who are forced into solo content to come back to group content to have fun again, instead of worrying about money grind and how much easier/better it is on solo. I've said that about 5 times in this thread but everyone just ignores that part. ...
tisnotme wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
I only responded to each individual as I saw fit. If they wanted to come into this thread acting like theyre king [filtered],
Serious!!
and from what I read that is how you your self is coming across
PhantomV wrote: »
you're still too blatantly ignorant or unintelligent,
constructive criticism hey
PhantomV wrote: »
I didn't attack them and just had a civil conversation
sure looks like your comment "you're still too blatantly ignorant or unintelligent," looks like an attack on me to me !! and you don't even know me
PhantomV wrote: »
you only want to see what you want to see. This nerf isn't to force SOLO players to join parties. This nerf I'd hope for is to bring back people who want to do GROUP but are forced into Solo due to the incentives. I could give a rats [filtered] about a strictly solo player, they'd probably trap up the runs anyway.
paint it how you want either way what you propose "as you said" is to try and make people that don't want to do groups but punishing them on the solo
some of these that have had enough of people like you constantly reminding them that they
PhantomV wrote: »
trap up the runs anyway.

but I know you wont like my reply even tho I was civil but more so due to how you find me "blatantly ignorant or unintelligent"

You were civil?? Your opening statement was a mockery, as in "funniest" laughing at me, because I should look in a mirror. That was an insult before you even had a discussion. That doesn't seem too civil to me.
My original post wasn't even that bad. I suggested a compromise somewhere between double vanguards for your account, 1 1/2 times guardians etc... not like I was screaming nerf it to the ground, but rather find some balance. Only 2 or 3 people bothered to respond with constructive criticism, the rest just spewed out attacks and why this is stupid, and that I must be on drugs or whatever. Basically the people who are taking advantage of the current system and happy with it I guess. Not sure why anyone who actually does dungeons wouldn't mind seeing a buff for them/slight nerf for solo content.... you don't want actual choice, you just want your choice to be the only one. I started replying with whatever [filtered] because thats all people wanted to do instead of actually stating why, or just being general sarcastic assholes.
PhantomV wrote: »
I only responded to each individual as I saw fit. If they wanted to come into this thread acting like theyre king [filtered],
Serious!!
and from what I read that is how you your self is coming across
PhantomV wrote: »
you're still too blatantly ignorant or unintelligent,
constructive criticism hey
PhantomV wrote: »
I didn't attack them and just had a civil conversation
sure looks like your comment "you're still too blatantly ignorant or unintelligent," looks like an attack on me to me !! and you don't even know me
PhantomV wrote: »
you only want to see what you want to see. This nerf isn't to force SOLO players to join parties. This nerf I'd hope for is to bring back people who want to do GROUP but are forced into Solo due to the incentives. I could give a rats [filtered] about a strictly solo player, they'd probably trap up the runs anyway.
paint it how you want either way what you propose "as you said" is to try and make people that don't want to do groups but punishing them on the solo
some of these that have had enough of people like you constantly reminding them that they
PhantomV wrote: »
trap up the runs anyway.

but I know you wont like my reply even tho I was civil but more so due to how you find me "blatantly ignorant or unintelligent"
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

Yeah and it was mostly people who p2w who bought essences like that. You do have the choice to just play on one character only, It's WAY easier to work on one character than it is to work on multiple, if someone decides to spend all that time and gold working on multiple characters, they should be rewarded well, of course things like iod bams shouldn't be way more worth than doing dungeons, but nerfing that and wanting things like account-wide limited vangaurds, guardians and dungeon runs is absolutely [filtered].
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
Well with so many triggered ppl recently @ DT and DF and Kaneda turning into Commafornia I figured it'd be fun to trigger some ppl here too, but I did enjoy some good discussion with people who are willing to speak to others in a proper manner as well. Words changed because Im sure people would try to delet this for political stuff.
PhantomV wrote: »
Yea, honestly I think I responded in a pretty decent manner with people willing to share their opinions, but the people who wanna be super toxic with their response..and act like theyre king [filtered].. screw it, no point.
PhantomV wrote: »
Ppl on here are like leftys they dont like your opinion so 10 of them gang up on you to try to shut you up. Well it's okay, the world is beginning to wake up.
dude what

I love to trigger people who are libbys, but ppl who want to have an actual discussion I'm glad to chat with em about it. That's what.
PhantomV wrote: »
Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

Yeah and it was mostly people who p2w who bought essences like that. You do have the choice to just play on one character only, It's WAY easier to work on one character than it is to work on multiple, if someone decides to spend all that time and gold working on multiple characters, they should be rewarded well, of course things like iod bams shouldn't be way more worth than doing dungeons, but nerfing that and wanting things like account-wide limited vangaurds, guardians and dungeon runs is absolutely [filtered].
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
Well with so many triggered ppl recently @ DT and DF and Kaneda turning into Commafornia I figured it'd be fun to trigger some ppl here too, but I did enjoy some good discussion with people who are willing to speak to others in a proper manner as well. Words changed because Im sure people would try to delet this for political stuff.
PhantomV wrote: »
Yea, honestly I think I responded in a pretty decent manner with people willing to share their opinions, but the people who wanna be super toxic with their response..and act like theyre king [filtered].. screw it, no point.
PhantomV wrote: »
Ppl on here are like leftys they dont like your opinion so 10 of them gang up on you to try to shut you up. Well it's okay, the world is beginning to wake up.
dude what
tisnotme wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Yea, honestly I think I responded in a pretty decent manner with people willing to share their opinions, but the people who wanna be super toxic with their response..and act like theyre king [filtered].. screw it, no point.

that's the funniest post in the whole thread , think you need to look in a mirror

and from the most I read of your posts it mainly looked like you wanted these changes imposed so as to froce solo players more in to group activities so as to help you find groups easier to run dungeons
and the way I see the ones that run solo , take that away from them wont push them in to group runs , it will push them to do less as id say some to most of them have already been there and left doing groups due to either having to put up with elitists or toxicity

Serious? I only responded to each individual as I saw fit. If they wanted to come into this thread acting like theyre king [filtered], ill talk back. But the couple who posted constructive criticism and shared their points on why they feel my opinion isn't the correct one, I didn't attack them and just had a civil conversation. And maybe I shouldnt have typed this all, you're still too blatantly ignorant or unintelligent, you only want to see what you want to see. This nerf isn't to force SOLO players to join parties. This nerf I'd hope for is to bring back people who want to do GROUP but are forced into Solo due to the incentives. I could give a rats [filtered] about a strictly solo player, they'd probably trap up the runs anyway.
PhantomV wrote: »
Yea, honestly I think I responded in a pretty decent manner with people willing to share their opinions, but the people who wanna be super toxic with their response..and act like theyre king [filtered].. screw it, no point.

that's the funniest post in the whole thread , think you need to look in a mirror

and from the most I read of your posts it mainly looked like you wanted these changes imposed so as to froce solo players more in to group activities so as to help you find groups easier to run dungeons
and the way I see the ones that run solo , take that away from them wont push them in to group runs , it will push them to do less as id say some to most of them have already been there and left doing groups due to either having to put up with elitists or toxicity
Yea, honestly I think I responded in a pretty decent manner with people willing to share their opinions, but the people who wanna be super toxic with their response..and act like theyre king [filtered].. screw it, no point.
Oh, I'd like to add to that list of apps that don't work earlier, but instead of listing legit stuff, i'm going to list all the cheats that xigncode stops:








































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I think it was something about nerfing solo content to get people to run more party content.
Original post got deleted, what was OP suggesting?
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
nvm not gonna bother with this dude proud to scream out 20 lvl 65 chars and acting as if thats a badge of honor... not gonna kick someone when theyre already so down.

I am so down thank you for noticing!! That's why I'm complaining on forums that other players are enjoying the game in a way I disagree with!!

Oh...wait...

Well with so many triggered ppl recently @ DT and DF and Kaneda turning into Commafornia I figured it'd be fun to trigger some ppl here too, but I did enjoy some good discussion with people who are willing to speak to others in a proper manner as well. Words changed because Im sure people would try to delet this for political stuff.
PhantomV wrote: »
nvm not gonna bother with this dude proud to scream out 20 lvl 65 chars and acting as if thats a badge of honor... not gonna kick someone when theyre already so down.

I am so down thank you for noticing!! That's why I'm complaining on forums that other players are enjoying the game in a way I disagree with!!

Oh...wait...
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

The thing is that selling EE is a game design flaw unrelated to the progression itself. It wasn't intended so it's unfair to use that against the system (saying that solo content is unbalanced because you can just buy your EE from other players, even though solo content isn't supposed to allow you to get past +7).

Even without RKE boxes, you could still always sell drops. People have been selling drops since VM1 with Shandra Quill in MCHM by 4-manning the bosses. On KTERA, parties sell the drop from AAHM to get Heroic Oath. It's not intended, but it's something players have discovered that is difficult for BHS to stop (as parties can just 4man dungeons and carry the "buyer").

The fact is that solo content, by itself, does not allow any player to progress past Stormcry +7. On KTERA, there is now Heroic Oath +3, which means that solo content leaves a player 6 enchants (not including the upgrade) behind a player who does hard mode party content.

It's fine how it is.

So what you're saying is not only can we buy essences, eventually you solo players will buy the heroic oath enchant mats too once our NA top tier are done with their gear and are skilled enough to run it with 4... Got it. Intended or not, it's in the game. It's not illegal or bannable. Don't give a damn about your moral compass.

Intention =/= Actual

I'm a solo player?
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You don't know me, so it's unfair of you to just assume that I'm a "solo player." This is only one of my 19 level 65 characters.

Solo content is fine how it is, nerfing rewards is not what needs to be done to the game.

19 level 65 characters. Wow man, I'm so very sorry for you. Your real life existence must be horrid. So much that you have to post screenshots to try and feel like an elitist.
For the record, I don't think it would necessarily be a problem if they did tie instance count to accounts instead of characters. For fairness, that would have to be done for both party and solo content, though. Sounds like it would cut down on that need that some players feel that they have to run everything with all alts. Players really don't need to be running everything with all alts, though.
Wow lol, you were serious. I thought you were being sarcastic. Now I realize you are probably just high.

#1, BHS isn't going to make solo instances account only. Ever. That's just stupid.

#2 You don't get to dictate what other people do. If they want to solo Ghillie, Pit, and IoD all day on 20 characters then too bad. You're not the dictator of Tera. "They aren't helping out the community" lolwut?? What does that even mean. Golden talents don't farm themselves. Someone who farms 1k talents in 2 hours and sells them is helping the community...

#3 What does your friend running 5 alts and quitting have to do with the rest of the players??? No one was forcing your friend to farm 5 alts everyday. He got burned out? Sorry, that's his problem. I can't believe you even brought that up as a reason for your insane idea lol.


Pit still doesn't drop much even though it is harder, so chill out.
This is all I get when I try and launch the game, I've tried closing programs down
No one is really forced to play a bunch of alts, there are people who have always reached BiS gear while playing 1-2 characters. If your motive is amassing a bunch of resources and that's it, then that's your own fault, there's nothing to stop people from making a bunch of alt characters and even alt accounts.
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

The thing is that selling EE is a game design flaw unrelated to the progression itself. It wasn't intended so it's unfair to use that against the system (saying that solo content is unbalanced because you can just buy your EE from other players, even though solo content isn't supposed to allow you to get past +7).

Even without RKE boxes, you could still always sell drops. People have been selling drops since VM1 with Shandra Quill in MCHM by 4-manning the bosses. On KTERA, parties sell the drop from AAHM to get Heroic Oath. It's not intended, but it's something players have discovered that is difficult for BHS to stop (as parties can just 4man dungeons and carry the "buyer").

The fact is that solo content, by itself, does not allow any player to progress past Stormcry +7. On KTERA, there is now Heroic Oath +3, which means that solo content leaves a player 6 enchants (not including the upgrade) behind a player who does hard mode party content.

It's fine how it is.

So what you're saying is not only can we buy essences, eventually you solo players will buy the heroic oath enchant mats too once our NA top tier are done with their gear and are skilled enough to run it with 4... Got it. Intended or not, it's in the game. It's not illegal or bannable. Don't give a damn about your moral compass.

Intention =/= Actual

I'm a solo player?
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You don't know me, so it's unfair of you to just assume that I'm a "solo player." This is only one of my 19 level 65 characters.

Solo content is fine how it is, nerfing rewards is not what needs to be done to the game.
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

The thing is that selling EE is a game design flaw unrelated to the progression itself. It wasn't intended so it's unfair to use that against the system (saying that solo content is unbalanced because you can just buy your EE from other players, even though solo content isn't supposed to allow you to get past +7).

Even without RKE boxes, you could still always sell drops. People have been selling drops since VM1 with Shandra Quill in MCHM by 4-manning the bosses. On KTERA, parties sell the drop from AAHM to get Heroic Oath. It's not intended, but it's something players have discovered that is difficult for BHS to stop (as parties can just 4man dungeons and carry the "buyer").

The fact is that solo content, by itself, does not allow any player to progress past Stormcry +7. On KTERA, there is now Heroic Oath +3, which means that solo content leaves a player 6 enchants (not including the upgrade) behind a player who does hard mode party content.

It's fine how it is.

So what you're saying is not only can we buy essences, eventually you solo players will buy the heroic oath enchant mats too once our NA top tier are done with their gear and are skilled enough to run it with 4... Got it. Intended or not, it's in the game. It's not illegal or bannable. Don't give a damn about your moral compass.

Intention =/= Actual

How is it "wrong" for a solo player to be able to buy things if they save up and its available. Once again, people play for enjoyment. If you don't enjoy gearing up, then why are you doing it?

It's not wrong, but in the past few weeks, maybe partly due to the XIGN thing, im not sure.. queue times and LFG has been a lot worse. A lot of people I know aren't even doing content anymore because they realized that solo things are making them more money. It makes us have to wait longer or plan for parties rather than just picking up and go. You guys say dead game, that's a big part of the reason why. People have 10 alts who they paid 200$ for instant level 60 + 1 hour worth of Kuma queueing that they just run every day, taking away 3-4 hours of time they could be partying and contributing to a group effort. I'm not talking about you people happily doing it, I'm talking about the people who DONT want to do it but are forced to because it's just that much more profitable.

I would have made a post about buffing raid content rather than nerf solo ones, which is preferred; I wouldn't have to care about you solo junkies, everyone is happily progressing in their own way where people don't have to feel like dropping out and just doing their own thing because it makes more sense to solo. There are already dozens of those posts though, so I made one about nerfing solo content instead.

I've heard a report of Velika being near empty and RG queues being dead since the xigncode debacle. I truly believe that a significant portion of the player base is going up and smoke due to it. The clock is ticking for EME to address this. I myself haven't played since the xigncode debacle. I'm eyeing TERA EU to move to if EME doesn't remove xigncode. I don't support EME trying to force a rootkit on the player base.

As for alts, I admit I have a few. I typically would just play with one, though. (Wound up making alts when I wanted to try a different class. Typically wound up switching to primarily using the new alt.) Never used one of those instant 60 scrolls.

I mean I have 2 alts as well that I spent time getting up to SC weapon to farm some of the content. I just found myself really burnt out after 2 weeks straight of having to worry about 3 characters, and a lot of my friends that used to just farm dungeons and decided to delve into that are saying the same, and some don't even want to play anymore. Maybe an extreme case, but I have a friend who was a really really good tank, would love to run with him, but he ended up leveling 5 alts in a rush for those solo gillie/pop master adds etc events, did a ton of stuff for almost a month straight by himself basically.. decided it was too much, and just quit yesterday. Sucks.
PhantomV wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

The thing is that selling EE is a game design flaw unrelated to the progression itself. It wasn't intended so it's unfair to use that against the system (saying that solo content is unbalanced because you can just buy your EE from other players, even though solo content isn't supposed to allow you to get past +7).

Even without RKE boxes, you could still always sell drops. People have been selling drops since VM1 with Shandra Quill in MCHM by 4-manning the bosses. On KTERA, parties sell the drop from AAHM to get Heroic Oath. It's not intended, but it's something players have discovered that is difficult for BHS to stop (as parties can just 4man dungeons and carry the "buyer").

The fact is that solo content, by itself, does not allow any player to progress past Stormcry +7. On KTERA, there is now Heroic Oath +3, which means that solo content leaves a player 6 enchants (not including the upgrade) behind a player who does hard mode party content.

It's fine how it is.

So what you're saying is not only can we buy essences, eventually you solo players will buy the heroic oath enchant mats too once our NA top tier are done with their gear and are skilled enough to run it with 4... Got it. Intended or not, it's in the game. It's not illegal or bannable. Don't give a damn about your moral compass.

Intention =/= Actual

How is it "wrong" for a solo player to be able to buy things if they save up and its available. Once again, people play for enjoyment. If you don't enjoy gearing up, then why are you doing it?

It's not wrong, but in the past few weeks, maybe partly due to the XIGN thing, im not sure.. queue times and LFG has been a lot worse. A lot of people I know aren't even doing content anymore because they realized that solo things are making them more money. It makes us have to wait longer or plan for parties rather than just picking up and go. You guys say dead game, that's a big part of the reason why. People have 10 alts who they paid 200$ for instant level 60 + 1 hour worth of Kuma queueing that they just run every day, taking away 3-4 hours of time they could be partying and contributing to a group effort. I'm not talking about you people happily doing it, I'm talking about the people who DONT want to do it but are forced to because it's just that much more profitable.

I would have made a post about buffing raid content rather than nerf solo ones, which is preferred; I wouldn't have to care about you solo junkies, everyone is happily progressing in their own way where people don't have to feel like dropping out and just doing their own thing because it makes more sense to solo. There are already dozens of those posts though, so I made one about nerfing solo content instead.

I've heard a report of Velika being near empty and RG queues being dead since the xigncode debacle. I truly believe that a significant portion of the player base is going up and smoke due to it. The clock is ticking for EME to address this. I myself haven't played since the xigncode debacle. I'm eyeing TERA EU to move to if EME doesn't remove xigncode. I don't support EME trying to force a rootkit on the player base.

As for alts, I admit I have a few. I typically would just play with one, though. (Wound up making alts when I wanted to try a different class. Typically wound up switching to primarily using the new alt.) Never used one of those instant 60 scrolls.
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

The thing is that selling EE is a game design flaw unrelated to the progression itself. It wasn't intended so it's unfair to use that against the system (saying that solo content is unbalanced because you can just buy your EE from other players, even though solo content isn't supposed to allow you to get past +7).

Even without RKE boxes, you could still always sell drops. People have been selling drops since VM1 with Shandra Quill in MCHM by 4-manning the bosses. On KTERA, parties sell the drop from AAHM to get Heroic Oath. It's not intended, but it's something players have discovered that is difficult for BHS to stop (as parties can just 4man dungeons and carry the "buyer").

The fact is that solo content, by itself, does not allow any player to progress past Stormcry +7. On KTERA, there is now Heroic Oath +3, which means that solo content leaves a player 6 enchants (not including the upgrade) behind a player who does hard mode party content.

It's fine how it is.

So what you're saying is not only can we buy essences, eventually you solo players will buy the heroic oath enchant mats too once our NA top tier are done with their gear and are skilled enough to run it with 4... Got it. Intended or not, it's in the game. It's not illegal or bannable. Don't give a damn about your moral compass.

Intention =/= Actual

How is it "wrong" for a solo player to be able to buy things if they save up and its available. Once again, people play for enjoyment. If you don't enjoy gearing up, then why are you doing it?

It's not wrong, but in the past few weeks, maybe partly due to the XIGN thing, im not sure.. queue times and LFG has been a lot worse. A lot of people I know aren't even doing content anymore because they realized that solo things are making them more money. It makes us have to wait longer or plan for parties rather than just picking up and go. You guys say dead game, that's a big part of the reason why. People have 10 alts who they paid 200$ for instant level 60 + 1 hour worth of Kuma queueing that they just run every day, taking away 3-4 hours of time they could be partying and contributing to a group effort. I'm not talking about you people happily doing it, I'm talking about the people who DONT want to do it but are forced to because it's just that much more profitable.

I would have made a post about buffing raid content rather than nerf solo ones, which is preferred; I wouldn't have to care about you solo junkies, everyone is happily progressing in their own way where people don't have to feel like dropping out and just doing their own thing because it makes more sense to solo. There are already dozens of those posts though, so I made one about nerfing solo content instead.
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

The thing is that selling EE is a game design flaw unrelated to the progression itself. It wasn't intended so it's unfair to use that against the system (saying that solo content is unbalanced because you can just buy your EE from other players, even though solo content isn't supposed to allow you to get past +7).

Even without RKE boxes, you could still always sell drops. People have been selling drops since VM1 with Shandra Quill in MCHM by 4-manning the bosses. On KTERA, parties sell the drop from AAHM to get Heroic Oath. It's not intended, but it's something players have discovered that is difficult for BHS to stop (as parties can just 4man dungeons and carry the "buyer").

The fact is that solo content, by itself, does not allow any player to progress past Stormcry +7. On KTERA, there is now Heroic Oath +3, which means that solo content leaves a player 6 enchants (not including the upgrade) behind a player who does hard mode party content.

It's fine how it is.

So what you're saying is not only can we buy essences, eventually you solo players will buy the heroic oath enchant mats too once our NA top tier are done with their gear and are skilled enough to run it with 4... Got it. Intended or not, it's in the game. It's not illegal or bannable. Don't give a damn about your moral compass.

Intention =/= Actual

How is it "wrong" for a solo player to be able to buy things if they save up and its available. Once again, people play for enjoyment. If you don't enjoy gearing up, then why are you doing it?
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

The thing is that selling EE is a game design flaw unrelated to the progression itself. It wasn't intended so it's unfair to use that against the system (saying that solo content is unbalanced because you can just buy your EE from other players, even though solo content isn't supposed to allow you to get past +7).

Even without RKE boxes, you could still always sell drops. People have been selling drops since VM1 with Shandra Quill in MCHM by 4-manning the bosses. On KTERA, parties sell the drop from AAHM to get Heroic Oath. It's not intended, but it's something players have discovered that is difficult for BHS to stop (as parties can just 4man dungeons and carry the "buyer").

The fact is that solo content, by itself, does not allow any player to progress past Stormcry +7. On KTERA, there is now Heroic Oath +3, which means that solo content leaves a player 6 enchants (not including the upgrade) behind a player who does hard mode party content.

It's fine how it is.

So what you're saying is not only can we buy essences, eventually you solo players will buy the heroic oath enchant mats too once our NA top tier are done with their gear and are skilled enough to run it with 4... Got it. Intended or not, it's in the game. It's not illegal or bannable. Don't give a damn about your moral compass.

Intention =/= Actual
PhantomV wrote: »
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?

The thing is that selling EE is a game design flaw unrelated to the progression itself. It wasn't intended so it's unfair to use that against the system (saying that solo content is unbalanced because you can just buy your EE from other players, even though solo content isn't supposed to allow you to get past +7).

Even without RKE boxes, you could still always sell drops. People have been selling drops since VM1 with Shandra Quill in MCHM by 4-manning the bosses. On KTERA, parties sell the drop from AAHM to get Heroic Oath. It's not intended, but it's something players have discovered that is difficult for BHS to stop (as parties can just 4man dungeons and carry the "buyer").

The fact is that solo content, by itself, does not allow any player to progress past Stormcry +7. On KTERA, there is now Heroic Oath +3, which means that solo content leaves a player 6 enchants (not including the upgrade) behind a player who does hard mode party content.

It's fine how it is.
Kennin303 wrote: »
Yeah they don't need to nerf solo content, they just need to up endgame dungeon content and make it worth the effort it takes over solo content. Also you might want to aim your righteous indignation at the ones responsible for the current issues with the game, and not towards the the ones who are not. Even though you have the right to express your opinion, you however don't have the right to dictate how others spend their time playing , because that somehow seems to inconveniences you. Also you might wanna stop being butt-hurt and try pulling that gigantic stick out of your a#$.

Wanting there to be a nerf to solo content means I am dictating how others spend their time playing? Don't think thats how it works.And please, no matter what we say - Buff raid content, buff BG/PVP, nerf solo content, all your response is to just tell us no anyway. My post was telling EME they did a good thing and I hope the trend continues. Not to look for validation from you or to dictate anything, because no one here has the power to do so.
Yeah they don't need to nerf solo content, they just need to up endgame dungeon content and make it worth the effort it takes over solo content. Also you might want to aim your righteous indignation at the ones responsible for the current issues with the game, and not towards the the ones who are not. Even though you have the right to express your opinion, you however don't have the right to dictate how others spend their time playing , because that somehow seems to inconveniences you. Also you might wanna stop being butt-hurt and try pulling that gigantic stick out of your a#$.
Wow I'm posting a lot huh? Lol. To be clear also, at least make solo content fun and CHALLENGING... Solo dungeons that aren't pointless mindless kill 1 bam or a tree that can't move and dies in 2 hits. If you have fun soloing bams and guardian legion all day long......... I just don't get it.
I don't use talents or anything like that. I farm the low level bams on iod in the gear I got from highwatch on my main and alts. then I sell what I have in the broker way less than the lowest price just to make quick gold. sometimes I sell to kami or others like him whenever I can, and I get a fair price from them, more than what I list it for in broker. if the economy wasn't so screwed up to begin with and wasn't so expensive, we wouldn't have to grind all day for gold just to buy something from the broker. im using gear that I had for more than 6 months now before they removed the enchanting mats, so im not gearing up anything. it takes me longer to do the bams, but I don't mind. I don't need the latest and greatest gear.

Well, I do agree with you with the economy being screwed up. It's mostly because most people do not want to be forced to solo content so we're left with poor choices at doing dungeons and rng cs/fwc boxes. If there were more or less of everything, or a balance between the two, I think we would all have a much more enjoyable time. Well, except for the people in this thread who seem to think it's GOOD that we need to grind 8+ hours a day on alts to make a living. I just don't get it, that's like saying, instead of the norm being 15$ an hour flipping burgers, I'm hoping more people can get an equal wage, while working less and with friends.. yet people aren't happy about that and want to continue flipping their burgers.
Aimovera wrote: »
Holy hell, does it matter how much you earn in virtual currency? Just run what you want to run. You can run both dungeons and solo content...
Heck, the most important thing in a GAME is that you get FUN out of it... not how much you earn per hour.

I mean, I have fun maximizing profits and stockpiling money and being ready for all patches and content plus being able to help out friends with theirs. Is that so wrong? Maybe thats how I have fun in a game. I'm sure I'm not the only one! There are also a lot of popular empire building, tycoon type games that do very well where you want to maximize your gain and networth, I'm not sure why YOU have to tell me what is fun.. maybe how much I earn per hour, like in real life, is fun to me and an indication of social status.
I don't use talents or anything like that. I farm the low level bams on iod in the gear I got from highwatch on my main and alts. then I sell what I have in the broker way less than the lowest price just to make quick gold. sometimes I sell to kami or others like him whenever I can, and I get a fair price from them, more than what I list it for in broker. if the economy wasn't so screwed up to begin with and wasn't so expensive, we wouldn't have to grind all day for gold just to buy something from the broker. im using gear that I had for more than 6 months now before they removed the enchanting mats, so im not gearing up anything. it takes me longer to do the bams, but I don't mind. I don't need the latest and greatest gear.
Holy hell, does it matter how much you earn in virtual currency? Just run what you want to run. You can run both dungeons and solo content...
Heck, the most important thing in a GAME is that you get FUN out of it... not how much you earn per hour.
And I'm not trying to dictate how you should play the game, but the game is trying to dictate how to maximize my profits every day in a way that makes soloing rather than party play better. Since there are a lot of threads about buffing raid content, I decided to make one about nerfing solo content instead. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

I'd argue that playing solo content is playing the actual game, though. There are different things that can be done in game. Picking and choosing what counts as really playing the game is silly. Heck, for some players merely running around and enjoying the graphics may be playing the game.

Those kinds of people, the ones that just 'enjoy graphics and walk around' or only stick to solo content and nothing else don't really help the population of people who do do dungeons and bgs and pvp though? So what difference does it make if they are around or not.. lol

People tend to play the game for enjoyment, not to entertain others, though. People who do solo content primarily and don't care about gear progression could potentially help lower the cost of gold and silver talents on broker. Last I checked, those were fairly pricey. Haven't played since the xigncode debacle, though.

also solo players like me spend money in the shop, and also buy costumes, mounts, and other trinkets that the hardcore people put in broker. so yes we matter. if you make it where you cant run these solo things to earn gold in game, then no one will buy the stuff in the broker. you can alos thank the elitist players for kicking everyone that isn't wearing the same costume, or not knowing the secret password to get in, or whatever crazy reason they deem. toxic players don't help any either. there aren't any rules about how to play tera besides the tos, so let us solo players do us, and you do you. that's one of the main problems in tera is people trying to dictate how people should play a game.

It's because all of you gearing up your alts to do these solo content why the prices of talents are so high. You also inflate the cost of items by putting costumes on all of your alts. If we all only needed 1 char, things would all be cheaper. We'd make less money sure from our sales, but if everything was cheaper, it's the same in the end. Idk about elitist players I'm not one of them I'm cool with learning runs and having fun inside dungeons and explaining mechanics, but there ARE some really ridiculously challenged people who either 1) Speak no English or dont communicate to let us know they are progressing 2) Wipe 20 times in a row to nothing. If you are that slow, you should find something else to do. Not everyone can be good at everything.
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

I'd argue that playing solo content is playing the actual game, though. There are different things that can be done in game. Picking and choosing what counts as really playing the game is silly. Heck, for some players merely running around and enjoying the graphics may be playing the game.

Those kinds of people, the ones that just 'enjoy graphics and walk around' or only stick to solo content and nothing else don't really help the population of people who do do dungeons and bgs and pvp though? So what difference does it make if they are around or not.. lol

People tend to play the game for enjoyment, not to entertain others, though. People who do solo content primarily and don't care about gear progression could potentially help lower the cost of gold and silver talents on broker. Last I checked, those were fairly pricey. Haven't played since the xigncode debacle, though.

also solo players like me spend money in the shop, and also buy costumes, mounts, and other trinkets that the hardcore people put in broker. so yes we matter. if you make it where you cant run these solo things to earn gold in game, then no one will buy the stuff in the broker. you can alos thank the elitist players for kicking everyone that isn't wearing the same costume, or not knowing the secret password to get in, or whatever crazy reason they deem. toxic players don't help any either. there aren't any rules about how to play tera besides the tos, so let us solo players do us, and you do you. that's one of the main problems in tera is people trying to dictate how people should play a game.
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

I'd argue that playing solo content is playing the actual game, though. There are different things that can be done in game. Picking and choosing what counts as really playing the game is silly. Heck, for some players merely running around and enjoying the graphics may be playing the game.

Those kinds of people, the ones that just 'enjoy graphics and walk around' or only stick to solo content and nothing else don't really help the population of people who do do dungeons and bgs and pvp though? So what difference does it make if they are around or not.. lol

People tend to play the game for enjoyment, not to entertain others, though. People who do solo content primarily and don't care about gear progression could potentially help lower the cost of gold and silver talents on broker. Last I checked, those were fairly pricey. Haven't played since the xigncode debacle, though.

Just the same, if they aren't here to entertain others, why should I care about their existence? As far as the talent issue, all they would have to do is make them drop in higher tier dungeons and problem solved.
CornishRex wrote: »
Tbh... They should just buff party content or at least make it as profitable as solo content is. I think solo content should be the second option as this is an mmo and not a single player game, but people should still have a choice. Extensively nerfing one or the other will only do damage.

As we can see right now, party content is not nearly as lucrative as solo content is and in addition to that you can't even obtain much needed materials through harder content which is just ridiculous.

That would work as well, buffing party content would be fantastic. This way it's not so lucrative to just solo content all day and do nothing. As you said, this is not a solo player game. It's an MMO. It's as annoying as people who just life skill fish and do nothing on BDO and you have to drag them to do anything.
Tbh... They should just buff party content or at least make it as profitable as solo content is. I think solo content should be the second option as this is an mmo and not a single player game, but people should still have a choice. Extensively nerfing one or the other will only do damage.

As we can see right now, party content is not nearly as lucrative as solo content is and in addition to that you can't even obtain much needed materials through harder content which is just ridiculous.
PhantomV wrote: »
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

I'd argue that playing solo content is playing the actual game, though. There are different things that can be done in game. Picking and choosing what counts as really playing the game is silly. Heck, for some players merely running around and enjoying the graphics may be playing the game.

Those kinds of people, the ones that just 'enjoy graphics and walk around' or only stick to solo content and nothing else don't really help the population of people who do do dungeons and bgs and pvp though? So what difference does it make if they are around or not.. lol

People tend to play the game for enjoyment, not to entertain others, though. People who do solo content primarily and don't care about gear progression could potentially help lower the cost of gold and silver talents on broker. Last I checked, those were fairly pricey. Haven't played since the xigncode debacle, though.
ReChoa wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.

Uhh just before RRHM patch, especially during spotlight, plenty .. PLENTY of parties sold rkem essences. 15 or 10k each. And you should be rewarded for the time you spend, I'm not an f'in carebear. But people should have the option to just do it all on their main and not be forced into playing alts. You're all hypocrites saying we should have the choice to do this and do that to make money, how about the choice to just do it on the one char we love?
PhantomV wrote: »
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.

When were you able to buy essences? This isn't EU. Not rewarding people for putting more time into the game is absolutely [filtered], just about every game that has something worth grinding for actually rewards players for grinding more.
RandomElin wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

I'd argue that playing solo content is playing the actual game, though. There are different things that can be done in game. Picking and choosing what counts as really playing the game is silly. Heck, for some players merely running around and enjoying the graphics may be playing the game.

Those kinds of people, the ones that just 'enjoy graphics and walk around' or only stick to solo content and nothing else don't really help the population of people who do do dungeons and bgs and pvp though? So what difference does it make if they are around or not.. lol
Pages wrote: »
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.

Maybe not now, not as much, but before, you could just buy essences. Or now, just do full solo content and only queue/lfg for RRHM since thats a sandbag dungeon and you can get essences.
PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

I'd argue that playing solo content is playing the actual game, though. There are different things that can be done in game. Picking and choosing what counts as really playing the game is silly. Heck, for some players merely running around and enjoying the graphics may be playing the game.
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PhantomV wrote: »
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.

Solo content still cant get your Stormcry enchanted past +7, no matter how much of it you do.
That would be a very bad business decision though... Plenty of folks like to do solo stuff and maybe a few dungeons if friends are online. Personally I have no interest in hard modes and all that gubbins. I just like to kill stuff, collect outfits and chill with friends. If the solo content was limited in such ways then likely half the player base would up sticks and migrate to another MMO.
Because, people shouldn't be able to solo grind on alts all day and make more money than doing dungeons. As it is, soloing trash tier bams all day + PoP + Ghillie + Guardians, you make way more money without the need of rng(drops, then rolling vs 4 other people)....... which also slows down queues and LFGs because a lot of people would rather do that then play the actual game.
Why limit solo content though? For some of us it's the main thing we do rather than having to wait in queues, rely on people who stand in the bad and get screwed over when the tank disconnects. That would just drive even more players away to other games...
@MarlyLuna maybe i was wrong about 1st post but not completely, check the post right above u.
PhantomV wrote: »
Hi, just wanted to say the changes to Pit are fantastic. They make people who spam lower level alts just one step further from being able to abuse the system. Now we need to make Ghillieglade account bound entrance, maybe up it to 3 or 4 a day. Vanguard requests to account instead of per character, can up it to 12 a day, 24 for elite. Guardians should also be account only. Maybe bump it up to 60 levels. See, this is a good balance, you get a bit more per day, while being able to just enjoy your main. I mean I guess you can make alt accounts, if you have the patience for that at this point, gj to you. A few other things, but this is a step in the right direction. We shouldn't be forced to play alts, where ppl with no job no life can grind 14 hours a day to make a ton of money.

Can I ask what it is you have been smoking... and can you put me in touch with your dealer? Looks like it's some pretty potent stuff!
ok lets make it so that u can do as many dungeons and bgs as you'd like, because those actually take time, skill, and group effort to do most of anything. but the solo content should be limited to account bound.
Nobody is forcing you to play a sh*t ton of alts. I play 1 character, 2 characters technically. My main archer that can do all content. And my Sorc that I only play to do CS, and sometimes if I'm not lazy to do some IoD. I make enough gold to be happy and progress.

And your whole idea of limited what players can do is why games die. Account bound entries and VGs is pretty much a Stamina system that other dead games have. Because at that point it doesn't matter how many alts you have, eventually logging on would be worthless. Not to mention people invested very many hours making, leveling, and gearing their alts. Probably more time invested into this game than OP
ElinUsagi wrote: »
lol?

I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but either way Petrax still sucks. Before you would get 1 runy and maybe an etching mat every other run. Now you get 2-3 rubies/sapphires, 1 talent, 1 gold finger, and some random stuff. It's still bad.

Now on a single PoP run you can get what you got from 4 runs before the changes, even more.

no you can't and it takes 4 times longer to complete it than before, drops right now are x2 due to jackpot just wait for that to end

and when it comes to jackpots it's a huge nerf in general, now they are basically crafting cure farms
lol?

I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but either way Petrax still sucks. Before you would get 1 runy and maybe an etching mat every other run. Now you get 2-3 rubies/sapphires, 1 talent, 1 gold finger, and some random stuff. It's still bad.

Now on a single PoP run you can get what you got from 4 runs before the changes, even more.
lol?

I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but either way Petrax still sucks. Before you would get 1 runy and maybe an etching mat every other run. Now you get 2-3 rubies/sapphires, 1 talent, 1 gold finger, and some random stuff. It's still bad.
How about no.
Hi, just wanted to say the changes to Pit are fantastic. They make people who spam lower level alts just one step further from being able to abuse the system. Now we need to make Ghillieglade account bound entrance, maybe up it to 3 or 4 a day. Vanguard requests to account instead of per character, can up it to 12 a day, 24 for elite. Guardians should also be account only. Maybe bump it up to 60 levels. See, this is a good balance, you get a bit more per day, while being able to just enjoy your main. I mean I guess you can make alt accounts, if you have the patience for that at this point, gj to you. A few other things, but this is a step in the right direction. We shouldn't be forced to play alts, where ppl with no job no life can grind 14 hours a day to make a ton of money.
My game crash randomly my ping is higher than ever... and fps drop its insane after the new patch... with XIGNCODE.. HELP...
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