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TERA PC - General Discussion: News on the Level 70 patch?
TERA PC - General Discussion#1 sanj6603/15/2019, 02:16 AM
so with respect to this thread posted here by @KitTeaCup for our 2019 roadmap:
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/30213/2019-tera-pc-roadmap-part-1#latest

MARCH 2019
March 2019 brings a change many of us never thought would come: a level-cap increase to Level 70! Currently dubbed V80, this huge update will introduce a new level cap and quests, along with a new open-world boss system! V80 is scheduled to go live in North America in late March! And that’s just the beginning…

We will release more information regarding the details of these updates as they draw closer, but we’re excited that 2019 will start off with a bang and I assure you, there are no plans to slow down after that! In the meantime, we just launched the fishing feature in TERA PC and a complete gathering/crafting system overhaul, plus Wintera is now in full swing!

now there are roughly 2 more weeks in march and there has been no word about the patch, when it is, no info page like we usually get and not even pc members or partner streamers have been getting responses when asking eme staff for info due to the regular players seeking information from them due to the lack of information from actual staff. 2 more weeks and as @seandynamite said through kitteacup in that post "We will release more information regarding the details of these updates as they draw closer", so where is the information? this is a major patch, a game changing patch at that and 2 weeks before the initial latest patch date we have nothing from staff or any official information being released even through partners etc. the only thing we have heard is that eme brian who was part of the cm team left the company and since then no information has been passed onto pc/partner members. its been a lonf standing issue raised since the departure of older staff but the communication or lack thereof is really a negative way of treating the players that keep this game alive. @KitTeaCup @seandynamite @Denommenator @CobaltDragon @SingleBear @BearShoes @Halrath
TERA PC - General Discussion#2 Aluh03/15/2019, 02:25 AM
People are speculating it will be released on the 26th of march, the same day the Timescape event ends. Nothing official tho.
TERA PC - General Discussion#3 vkobe03/15/2019, 03:09 AM
so we will get level 70 before popo brawler ?
From what I picked up in the Eme discord, the lvl 70 patch has been delayed and will come in the first 1-2 weeks of April. Apparently it needed more bug testing so we didn't launch with a mess.
Aluh wrote: »
People are speculating it will be released on the 26th of march, the same day the Timescape event ends. Nothing official tho.

The PvE/PvP season 6 was supposed to end on the 26th but then it was changed to 19th..


I guess that the patch will be delayed as the person above me said..
TERA PC - General Discussion#6 Aluh03/15/2019, 11:14 AM
Yeah probably.
vkobe wrote: »
so we will get level 70 before popo brawler ?

yes.
TERA PC - General Discussion#7 vkobe03/15/2019, 02:13 PM
damn i thought we can enjoy popo brawler one month before than level 70 update will kill our tera
vkobe wrote: »
damn i thought we can enjoy popo brawler one month before than level 70 update will kill our tera

Yeah, if anyone is watching, could you just push the level 70 release off a cliff please? Who has any interest in the screaming and crying that is surely to follow it?
At least the forums will be entertaining for a while, things have been pretty quiet here lately after all xD
TERA PC - General Discussion#10 vkobe03/18/2019, 03:48 PM
buffons wrote: »
At least the forums will be entertaining for a while, things have been pretty quiet here lately after all xD

even the forum is dying :/
TERA PC - General Discussion#11 Elinu103/18/2019, 08:43 PM
vkobe wrote: »
buffons wrote: »
At least the forums will be entertaining for a while, things have been pretty quiet here lately after all xD

even the forum is dying :/

needs moar cute elins
TERA PC - General Discussion#12 vkobe03/18/2019, 09:00 PM
Elinu1 wrote: »
vkobe wrote: »
buffons wrote: »
At least the forums will be entertaining for a while, things have been pretty quiet here lately after all xD

even the forum is dying :/

needs moar cute elins

but angel is gone :/
TERA PC - General Discussion#13 sanj6603/19/2019, 12:38 AM
its funny that they post a header on forums for a crappy even that no one cares about as most of the items that are worth it are timed but thay cant post an update on a major patch that was scheduled for this month and then always talk about wanting to be better at communicating...
@KitTeaCup @seandynamite @CobaltDragon @BearShoes @Halrath @counterpoint
TERA PC - General Discussion#14 Melyodis03/19/2019, 01:21 AM
sanj66 wrote: »
its funny that they post a header on forums for a crappy even that no one cares about as most of the items that are worth it are timed but thay cant post an update on a major patch that was scheduled for this month and then always talk about wanting to be better at communicating...
@KitTeaCup @seandynamite @CobaltDragon @BearShoes @Halrath @counterpoint

Communication is Spanish to them or french or something, since the forums mod announcement they stop reply to anyone on the forums not even a hi guys how you all going the only person commenting is Counterpoint but that not new for him hes always helping out here but as for eme staff seems like the forums ban them lol.

TERA PC - General Discussion#15 Christin03/19/2019, 02:54 AM
Melyodis wrote: »
sanj66 wrote: »
its funny that they post a header on forums for a crappy even that no one cares about as most of the items that are worth it are timed but thay cant post an update on a major patch that was scheduled for this month and then always talk about wanting to be better at communicating...
@KitTeaCup @seandynamite @CobaltDragon @BearShoes @Halrath @counterpoint

Communication is Spanish to them or french or something, since the forums mod announcement they stop reply to anyone on the forums not even a hi guys how you all going the only person commenting is Counterpoint but that not new for him hes always helping out here but as for eme staff seems like the forums ban them lol.

I think there is some hostility towards PC players seeing as we aren't appreciating what they've been doing for us lately. I have a feeling the Level 70 update is gonna be pushed back, and they don't want to deal with the news about it yet.
I'll try to raise the question about the status of the patch. I know there's been some major changes in the Community Team crew over the last few weeks so things are still settling down. That is probably partly why they're around here less right now.
Christin wrote: »
Melyodis wrote: »
sanj66 wrote: »
its funny that they post a header on forums for a crappy even that no one cares about as most of the items that are worth it are timed but thay cant post an update on a major patch that was scheduled for this month and then always talk about wanting to be better at communicating...
@KitTeaCup @seandynamite @CobaltDragon @BearShoes @Halrath @counterpoint

Communication is Spanish to them or french or something, since the forums mod announcement they stop reply to anyone on the forums not even a hi guys how you all going the only person commenting is Counterpoint but that not new for him hes always helping out here but as for eme staff seems like the forums ban them lol.

I think there is some hostility towards PC players seeing as we aren't appreciating what they've been doing for us lately.

??? If there's some issue, you're more than welcome to send me a message and I'll make sure the point gets communicated if it hasn't already... but I suspect it has already has been.
It's coming fam -- patience is key ! if you have any questions, feel free to ping me on EME discord server !
It's coming fam -- patience is key ! if you have any questions, feel free to ping me on EME discord server !

Can you share some info here? Like for example do you know if the Blessing of Shakan which is the priest buff will apply the new polished skills buffs to party/raid or self only? I suspect that it is self only since extra buffs seem to be quite visible but it is always better to ask someone that knows..
TERA PC - General Discussion#19 kubitoid03/19/2019, 07:49 PM
It's coming fam -- patience is key ! if you have any questions, feel free to ping me on EME discord server !
yay! when merge??? :3
ps - Akatsuki bless you
Apologies for the OT...
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU and it will be sooner or later released at NA/EU with a very high anticipation behind it.
I was playing the KR version of Lost Ark from at least CBT2 through the current OBT; lost potential is what comes to mind with the game (I was initially positive on this game as well). Why? As is somewhat unwritten and standard practice at some Korean studios, the core design team is normally "dispersed" once corporate leadership deems the game launched. In Lost Ark's case, that became academic well before they announced the OBT soft launch date (November 7, 2018) back in September. Things were slightly worse at Smilegate though since the original design and development team that started work on the game were mostly all gone from Tripod Studio (Smilegate's development subsidiary for Lost Ark) as a result of some labor/personnel shenanigans at Smilegate that was uncovered by the labor relations ministry in South Korea.

The news was reported back in October 2018 on Inven but this also explains why CBT3's end game felt worse (compared to what they had in CBT2) and why the current end game in the OBT is just this unsatisfying item level grind gated behind lazily designed item level requirements, limited chaos dungeons (a limited subset of all of the well designed leveling/questing dungeons that were created by the original designers), and limited dailies (3 per day)/weeklies where your main source of gear enchanting material (acrasium/acrasium 2, etc) comes from. This of course isn't unique since content gating of this sort is something we're all familiar with.

The issue I have with Lost Ark's end game is it ended up feeling blatantly calculated/methodical where I found myself logging in, doing my requisite dailies/limited runs, and then logging out. Most of the exploration aspects for sailing/islands that was designed by the original team have been turned into time sinks by the current team (sailing from one island to the other for some of the pre-requisite quests to unlock a song or emote that is critical for progression since unlike continents, you cannot use a liner to fast travel; and even those liners have a ridiculous timer associated with them before you actually depart). Even the first expansion episode with the new contintent (Rohendel) is gated behind an item level as well as having opened up access to the western sea part of the map (which itself entails a grind of obtaining 15 island hearts; some of which are gated behind time limited entry for a particular island and/or have pre-requisites that are also linear in their construct ). The point is that without significant changes for NA/EU (highly unlikely given the original designers are no longer with the company), it won't be immune from the issues that have plagued other Korean MMO's that were brought over to the west; it will see the same initial influx (from the anticipation/hype of something new) but will have longer term issues retaining the less than hardcore players (since the current designers handling the game seem to mainly have item level power creep on the brain).

With that said, there is still designed content that hasn't been released yet including the player housing system (aka private islands); part of which is dependent on the NPC affinity system (a grind in itself) as well as larger scale battlegrounds and sieges (those probably will come after they transition from OBT soft launch into official release). Given how terrible the initial GvG battle map that was launched a few weeks ago is, I'm not confident the current design team will do those other designs and systems justice though.

Back on topic a bit, despite similar designer/developer issues with Bluehole/Krafton for TERA, I found myself appreciating/enjoying those parts of the game I do enjoy a lot more (that doesn't include the higher tier RNG enchanting). So I give Bluehole/Krafton the virtual middle finger by not tryharding gear enchanting once I hit Frostmetal (I only enchant once I cap out on item XP) and will do the same with the "bolt on" systems being added to 65 gear for the level 70 patch. Side gripe -> Likewise, I stopped purchasing EMP since I do not believe that this current low quality effort by EME on the publishing side should be rewarded (like they don't even take the time to reload/update the dressing room; that mess of PUBG items in the dressing room is lazy personified on full display).
TERA PC - General Discussion#21 Lapomko03/20/2019, 01:40 PM
It's coming fam -- patience is key ! if you have any questions, feel free to ping me on EME discord server !

What do koreans think off this patch? I've only seen bad... If alot of people gonna leave. Enmasse will just close the game like their other games just recently like Kritika. The 2 NA server is a ghost town compared to EU Mystel.
TERA PC - General Discussion#22 vkobe03/20/2019, 04:49 PM
Lapomko wrote: »
It's coming fam -- patience is key ! if you have any questions, feel free to ping me on EME discord server !

What do koreans think off this patch? I've only seen bad... If alot of people gonna leave. Enmasse will just close the game like their other games just recently like Kritika. The 2 NA server is a ghost town compared to EU Mystel.

rumor say than korea tera dying after this patch, their server turn into ghost server
TERA PC - General Discussion#23 sanj6603/21/2019, 01:53 AM
atleast eu cm's are gonna stream the patch on monday i hear sad that we have to get patch info from another region than our own community team lmfao @KitTeaCup @BearShoes @Halrath @CobaltDragon
It shouldn't be that bad when we get it since we usually get most minor patch versions bundled, so a lot of the xp adjustments will be there for us day one as compared to kr where the first few weeks of it were god awful
TERA PC - General Discussion#25 kubitoid03/21/2019, 12:01 PM
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU
it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p
Lapomko wrote: »
It's coming fam -- patience is key ! if you have any questions, feel free to ping me on EME discord server !

What do koreans think off this patch? I've only seen bad... If alot of people gonna leave. Enmasse will just close the game like their other games just recently like Kritika. The 2 NA server is a ghost town compared to EU Mystel.

I have to disagree here even though i somehow tend to believe that Gameforge cares much more than En Masse and at least they to try to improve the experience for the players on the European servers.

But the 2 NA servers are not like any ghosts towns at all because at least Velika is quite lively with the LFG almost always being active while for example even getting two up to three raids at Rally or even seeing at least five up to ten players if not more sometimes at guardian legion.

What really sucks that the PvP got a really big hit and now we are kinda moving towards more PvE which means less diversity.
kubitoid wrote: »
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU

it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p

I see.

All that i saw is a lot of hype on Discord about Lost Ark:RU not being region locked and maybe even getting an english patch so that players could go there ( KR has an english patch as well as far as i know though it is complicated to play there mainly due to ping ). But in my case i guess that i will wait until it will be released in EU/NA with proper english coverage.
TERA PC - General Discussion#27 Lapomko03/22/2019, 12:57 AM
Lapomko wrote: »
It's coming fam -- patience is key ! if you have any questions, feel free to ping me on EME discord server !

What do koreans think off this patch? I've only seen bad... If alot of people gonna leave. Enmasse will just close the game like their other games just recently like Kritika. The 2 NA server is a ghost town compared to EU Mystel.

I have to disagree here even though i somehow tend to believe that Gameforge cares much more than En Masse and at least they to try to improve the experience for the players on the European servers.

But the 2 NA servers are not like any ghosts towns at all because at least Velika is quite lively with the LFG almost always being active while for example even getting two up to three raids at Rally or even seeing at least five up to ten players if not more sometimes at guardian legion.

What really sucks that the PvP got a really big hit and now we are kinda moving towards more PvE which means less diversity.
kubitoid wrote: »
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU

it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p

I see.

All that i saw is a lot of hype on Discord about Lost Ark:RU not being region locked and maybe even getting an english patch so that players could go there ( KR has an english patch as well as far as i know though it is complicated to play there mainly due to ping ). But in my case i guess that i will wait until it will be released in EU/NA with proper english coverage.

I got used to Mystel as I just transfered to there and play NA if my friends ask me. The population there is 3 times more than Velika based on moongourd population chart.
Lapomko wrote: »
Lapomko wrote: »
It's coming fam -- patience is key ! if you have any questions, feel free to ping me on EME discord server !

What do koreans think off this patch? I've only seen bad... If alot of people gonna leave. Enmasse will just close the game like their other games just recently like Kritika. The 2 NA server is a ghost town compared to EU Mystel.

I have to disagree here even though i somehow tend to believe that Gameforge cares much more than En Masse and at least they to try to improve the experience for the players on the European servers.

But the 2 NA servers are not like any ghosts towns at all because at least Velika is quite lively with the LFG almost always being active while for example even getting two up to three raids at Rally or even seeing at least five up to ten players if not more sometimes at guardian legion.

What really sucks that the PvP got a really big hit and now we are kinda moving towards more PvE which means less diversity.
kubitoid wrote: »
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU

it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p

I see.

All that i saw is a lot of hype on Discord about Lost Ark:RU not being region locked and maybe even getting an english patch so that players could go there ( KR has an english patch as well as far as i know though it is complicated to play there mainly due to ping ). But in my case i guess that i will wait until it will be released in EU/NA with proper english coverage.

I got used to Mystel as I just transfered to there and play NA if my friends ask me. The population there is 3 times more than Velika based on moongourd population chart.

If that is the case then congrats to Gameforge for knowing how to attract and keep players ( i even heard that they improved the PvP so that enchanting is much easier than what we already have adding more diversity to the game ).

But i still cannot say that Velika at least is a ghost town because i still see a lot of activity.
TERA PC - General Discussion#29 sanj6603/22/2019, 07:48 PM
kubitoid wrote: »
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU
it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p

its still better than tera, gender lock, limited entries, low player base, ignorant af and basically non existent staff, for a game with a major patch looming it looks more like a game ready to be shut down lol.
News for the next update is planned to go out next week, it'll call out the update and events surrounding it, plus a teaser of anniversary.

As @counterpoint mentioned, It's been a crazy time here at En Masse, there's a lot going on behind the scenes, and teams are shifting around. I appreciate those that have been really patient and understanding!
The problem with Krafton Bluehole is that they based their game in an extreme demanding in time progression game, instead of do a game were gameplay supply that aspect of the game.
If game were more competitive an less farming gameplay intended. Would be better.

Look at Fornite, Ark evolved , Grand theft Auto or Billonarie EA games. All of them put the players in to create their own kind of game and let them play as they wish, without heavy farming .

I bet Tera needs Unreal engine 4 yes or yes. If people can create their gameplays, people going to spend money. And invest more time without get angry ot bored.
TERA PC - General Discussion#32 kubitoid03/23/2019, 07:52 PM
KitTeaCup wrote: »
It's been a crazy time here at En Masse, there's a lot going on behind the scenes
what is it? are you planning to close Closers?? :p
TERA PC - General Discussion#33 Aluh03/23/2019, 09:59 PM
Gatokatzen wrote: »
The problem with Krafton Bluehole is that they based their game in an extreme demanding in time progression game, instead of do a game were gameplay supply that aspect of the game.
If game were more competitive an less farming gameplay intended. Would be better.

Look at Fornite, Ark evolved , Grand theft Auto or Billonarie EA games. All of them put the players in to create their own kind of game and let them play as they wish, without heavy farming .

I bet Tera needs Unreal engine 4 yes or yes. If people can create their gameplays, people going to spend money. And invest more time without get angry ot bored.

What the F are u smoking? That [filtered] strong af talking non sense
kubitoid wrote: »
KitTeaCup wrote: »
It's been a crazy time here at En Masse, there's a lot going on behind the scenes
what is it? are you planning to close Closers?? :p

Amused.
TERA PC - General Discussion#35 KadaLove03/24/2019, 05:05 AM
Meanwhile, on EU they get it the 28th.
> @Aluh said:
> Gatokatzen wrote: »
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> The problem with Krafton Bluehole is that they based their game in an extreme demanding in time progression game, instead of do a game were gameplay supply that aspect of the game.
> If game were more competitive an less farming gameplay intended. Would be better.
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> Look at Fornite, Ark evolved , Grand theft Auto or Billonarie EA games. All of them put the players in to create their own kind of game and let them play as they wish, without heavy farming .
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> I bet Tera needs Unreal engine 4 yes or yes. If people can create their gameplays, people going to spend money. And invest more time without get angry ot bored.
>
>
>
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> What the F are u smoking? That [filtered] strong af talking non sense

Saying the True, Heavy reciclyng content farming games are finished on this age, where open world and full customization games are top. Tera can expect even lesser population by increasing farming levels beyond toleration.
Gatokatzen wrote: »
The problem with Krafton Bluehole is that they based their game in an extreme demanding in time progression game, instead of do a game were gameplay supply that aspect of the game.
If game were more competitive an less farming gameplay intended. Would be better.

Look at Fornite, Ark evolved , Grand theft Auto or Billonarie EA games. All of them put the players in to create their own kind of game and let them play as they wish, without heavy farming .

I bet Tera needs Unreal engine 4 yes or yes. If people can create their gameplays, people going to spend money. And invest more time without get angry ot bored.

Uh... no? At least 2 of the games you listed are pretty bad examples. TERA is an MMO from the days when MMOs were all the rage - a relic of a bygone age, if you will. Fortnite and GTA are, to grossly oversimplify them, open-world 3rd-person shooters. The only similarities between them and TERA are that there is an open world to explore and character customization. Otherwise you're comparing applesauce to an orange Dreamsickle.
I went over at Gameforge Tera to read more about the level 70 patch notes since they usually give so much more detalied information and this is what i have found by coincidence...

https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/event-pvp-challenges-3

In other words, they are doing what i heard so many times in the past and that is the fact that they are making the PvP gear to be much more easier to be enchanted by giving more PvP materials and practically counter the ridiculous enchanting rates that were inherently given by the developer.


p.s. i am still at +6 after using more than 3k plates since the PvP gear was added eventually giving up on PvP in favor of more PvE
TERA PC - General Discussion#39 Melyodis03/24/2019, 05:12 PM
sanj66 wrote: »
kubitoid wrote: »
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU
it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p

its still better than tera, gender lock, limited entries, low player base, ignorant af and basically non existent staff, for a game with a major patch looming it looks more like a game ready to be shut down lol. not to mention instead of communicating or reading through player questions, talking about the patch/relaying patch info to their customers @KitTeaCup was soooo swamped dealing with twitch prime loot, wow, hooray for that, the ignorance of this company and its down right living in a dream world mentality is quite absurd at this point. but hey congrats on twitch prime loot right? @KitTeaCup the players that you down right ignore and fail to serve as your duty demands would surely love it......

let me switch gears a bit go get a life man you seem impatient to wait for major patch when it comes with bugs you get pissed same way be patient nah man
I went over at Gameforge Tera to read more about the level 70 patch notes since they usually give so much more detalied information and this is what i have found by coincidence...

https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/event-pvp-challenges-3

In other words, they are doing what i heard so many times in the past and that is the fact that they are making the PvP gear to be much more easier to be acquired practically removing the imbalance from the players with +7 PvP gear and the players with +9 PvP gear by giving more PvP materials to players and obviously counter the ridiculous enchanting rates that were inherently given by the developer.


p.s. i am still at +6 after using more than 3k plates since the PvP gear was added eventually giving up on PvP in favor of more PvE

You drop that pvp link from GF like its a permanent change its an event plenty rewarding than the one we have going on here. so i don't get your point there still rng at play the rate will still be high and ur gear will still get damaged i don't see the joy in it anyway that GF is doing something so big.
TERA PC - General Discussion#40 sanj6603/25/2019, 08:42 PM
Melyodis wrote: »
sanj66 wrote: »
kubitoid wrote: »
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU
it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p

its still better than tera, gender lock, limited entries, low player base, ignorant af and basically non existent staff, for a game with a major patch looming it looks more like a game ready to be shut down lol. not to mention instead of communicating or reading through player questions, talking about the patch/relaying patch info to their customers @KitTeaCup was soooo swamped dealing with twitch prime loot, wow, hooray for that, the ignorance of this company and its down right living in a dream world mentality is quite absurd at this point. but hey congrats on twitch prime loot right? @KitTeaCup the players that you down right ignore and fail to serve as your duty demands would surely love it......

let me switch gears a bit go get a life man you seem impatient to wait for major patch when it comes with bugs you get pissed same way be patient nah man
I went over at Gameforge Tera to read more about the level 70 patch notes since they usually give so much more detalied information and this is what i have found by coincidence...

https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/event-pvp-challenges-3

In other words, they are doing what i heard so many times in the past and that is the fact that they are making the PvP gear to be much more easier to be acquired practically removing the imbalance from the players with +7 PvP gear and the players with +9 PvP gear by giving more PvP materials to players and obviously counter the ridiculous enchanting rates that were inherently given by the developer.


p.s. i am still at +6 after using more than 3k plates since the PvP gear was added eventually giving up on PvP in favor of more PvE

You drop that pvp link from GF like its a permanent change its an event plenty rewarding than the one we have going on here. so i don't get your point there still rng at play the rate will still be high and ur gear will still get damaged i don't see the joy in it anyway that GF is doing something so big.

let me switch it up and tell you when have eme in recent times since the era of pattrick etc not drop a patch with every single bug that came from ktera and was fixed on ktera but we still got it? lmao can you be more of a whiteknight, eme Q&A team is on a comedy level chapelle cant even compete on. these guys claim to test the game for Q&A reasons yet seem to have no clue what is what, if you even bothered to read the OP the issue was not when or if we get the patch but the silence surrounding it even though it was listed as coming out this month, not even a hey things are a bit busy and we cant deliver due to X or Y, no it was simply if you were in the eme discord, check back next week we might have some info, continuous for multiple weeks. so maybe instead of white knighting you should take your own advice?
TERA PC - General Discussion#41 Christin03/25/2019, 08:58 PM
KitTeaCup wrote: »
News for the next update is planned to go out next week, it'll call out the update and events surrounding it, plus a teaser of anniversary.

As @counterpoint mentioned, It's been a crazy time here at En Masse, there's a lot going on behind the scenes, and teams are shifting around. I appreciate those that have been really patient and understanding!

Thanks for the update! TBH it's working out fine as this is tax time, spring cleaning and school testing, so not much time to devote to gaming. I guess teams shifting around will mean new CM's then? Can't wait for the anniversary events. Should have everything done by then except cleaning, but cleaning is never, ever done. :(
sanj66 wrote: »
Melyodis wrote: »
sanj66 wrote: »
kubitoid wrote: »
And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU
it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p

its still better than tera, gender lock, limited entries, low player base, ignorant af and basically non existent staff, for a game with a major patch looming it looks more like a game ready to be shut down lol. not to mention instead of communicating or reading through player questions, talking about the patch/relaying patch info to their customers @KitTeaCup was soooo swamped dealing with twitch prime loot, wow, hooray for that, the ignorance of this company and its down right living in a dream world mentality is quite absurd at this point. but hey congrats on twitch prime loot right? @KitTeaCup the players that you down right ignore and fail to serve as your duty demands would surely love it......

let me switch gears a bit go get a life man you seem impatient to wait for major patch when it comes with bugs you get pissed same way be patient nah man
I went over at Gameforge Tera to read more about the level 70 patch notes since they usually give so much more detalied information and this is what i have found by coincidence...

https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/event-pvp-challenges-3

In other words, they are doing what i heard so many times in the past and that is the fact that they are making the PvP gear to be much more easier to be acquired practically removing the imbalance from the players with +7 PvP gear and the players with +9 PvP gear by giving more PvP materials to players and obviously counter the ridiculous enchanting rates that were inherently given by the developer.


p.s. i am still at +6 after using more than 3k plates since the PvP gear was added eventually giving up on PvP in favor of more PvE

You drop that pvp link from GF like its a permanent change its an event plenty rewarding than the one we have going on here. so i don't get your point there still rng at play the rate will still be high and ur gear will still get damaged i don't see the joy in it anyway that GF is doing something so big.

let me switch it up and tell you when have eme in recent times since the era of pattrick etc not drop a patch with every single bug that came from ktera and was fixed on ktera but we still got it? lmao can you be more of a whiteknight, eme Q&A team is on a comedy level chapelle cant even compete on. these guys claim to test the game for Q&A reasons yet seem to have no clue what is what, if you even bothered to read the OP the issue was not when or if we get the patch but the silence surrounding it even though it was listed as coming out this month, not even a hey things are a bit busy and we cant deliver due to X or Y, no it was simply if you were in the eme discord, check back next week we might have some info, continuous for multiple weeks. so maybe instead of white knighting you should take your own advice?

This thread needs to be less toxic on both sides.

For what it's worth, EME QA team doesn't do overall game testing (that's BHS's job), they test whether the patch they receive does what BHS told them it should (in BHS's provided notes to them), and whether it integrates with EME's custom systems properly. All the regions inherit the same K-TERA bugs because that's as-shipped by BHS, and BHS already knows about them (so telling them is pointless). The QA team is supposed to notify BHS about any bugs they find that are unique to the region or that BHS doesn't know about. If it's a bug on BHS's side, it's entirely up to BHS whether they will fix them. This is not meant to "white knight" them or anyone; this is simply what their job is and why we get the K-TERA bugs anyway. It doesn't mean they don't need a QA process. You never see the bugs that don't ship.


You drop that pvp link from GF like its a permanent change its an event plenty rewarding than the one we have going on here. so i don't get your point there still rng at play the rate will still be high and ur gear will still get damaged i don't see the joy in it anyway that GF is doing something so big.
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let me switch it up and tell you when have eme in recent times since the era of pattrick etc not drop a patch with every single bug that came from ktera and was fixed on ktera but we still got it? lmao can you be more of a whiteknight, eme Q&A team is on a comedy level chapelle cant even compete on. these guys claim to test the game for Q&A reasons yet seem to have no clue what is what, if you even bothered to read the OP the issue was not when or if we get the patch but the silence surrounding it even though it was listed as coming out this month, not even a hey things are a bit busy and we cant deliver due to X or Y, no it was simply if you were in the eme discord, check back next week we might have some info, continuous for multiple weeks. so maybe instead of white knighting you should take your own advice?[/quote]

you all been disappoint well leave nah is better you did stay quiet and not say anything until you see a post about the major patch is not that they forget they just don't care about your feelings to tell you that is't coming late but some brain would tell you that its coming late weather they put a date for it not its better eme stop make road maps so we won't get impatient post like these if you think i'm whiteknighting think again I just love trouble I love pissing people off lol everytime you all pissed you bad talk eme bad management this bad that well quit the game for good nah or go gameforge they give patch note early just like you would want it (lmao can you be more of a whiteknight) i'm a blackknight lol i hope your pissed now lol

TERA PC - General Discussion#44 ceemaree03/26/2019, 03:02 AM
Looks like lvl 70 on the 16th April
TERA PC - General Discussion#45 Melyodis03/26/2019, 03:55 AM
Gatokatzen wrote: »
> @Aluh said:
> Gatokatzen wrote: »
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> The problem with Krafton Bluehole is that they based their game in an extreme demanding in time progression game, instead of do a game were gameplay supply that aspect of the game.
> If game were more competitive an less farming gameplay intended. Would be better.
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> Look at Fornite, Ark evolved , Grand theft Auto or Billonarie EA games. All of them put the players in to create their own kind of game and let them play as they wish, without heavy farming .
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> What the F are u smoking? That [filtered] strong af talking non sense

Saying the True, Heavy reciclyng content farming games are finished on this age, where open world and full customization games are top. Tera can expect even lesser population by increasing farming levels beyond toleration.

@Gatokatzen why do you play tera?
TERA PC - General Discussion#46 voidy03/26/2019, 05:15 AM
Well, for anyone interested (since na will likely get a very similar patch), EU dropped patch notes in advance.
https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/patch-note-80-curse-from-the-skies

Old zones are getting a really ugly looking reskin. Dungeons are getting the 'dungeon coin' treatment. Level cap boosted. etc.
Dunno when you guys will get this monstrosity of an 'expansion,' but consider yourselves lucky for getting it later. It looks terrible. Dungeon coins will let you run the same dungeon more times, but it appears to let you run less overall content before running out of coins. The level cap is grindy as hell and everyone already knows this. And now, to top it off, even more of the game's pretty maps are being given the island of dawn treatment, with recolored 'new' BAMs to grind for hours. Also there's a new skill upgrading system that's rumored to cost hundreds of thousands of gold, so that's great.
voidy wrote: »
Well, for anyone interested (since na will likely get a very similar patch), EU dropped patch notes in advance.
https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/patch-note-80-curse-from-the-skies

Old zones are getting a really ugly looking reskin. Dungeons are getting the 'dungeon coin' treatment. Level cap boosted. etc.
Dunno when you guys will get this monstrosity of an 'expansion,' but consider yourselves lucky for getting it later. It looks terrible. Dungeon coins will let you run the same dungeon more times, but it appears to let you run less overall content before running out of coins. The level cap is grindy as hell and everyone already knows this. And now, to top it off, even more of the game's pretty maps are being given the island of dawn treatment, with recolored 'new' BAMs to grind for hours. Also there's a new skill upgrading system that's rumored to cost hundreds of thousands of gold, so that's great.

There is something interesting that i found in the patch notes:

The TERA Club

The TERA Club has been adapted to the changes in patch 80 and membership now has the following new benefits:

Double the number of weekly instance entries (80)
Maximum Adventure Coin of 1,680
Increase regeneration of Adventure Coin (4 every 3 minutes)
Permanently 100% more experience points
Permanently 20% more item XP
20 additional fish deliveries per day
2 additional delivery package handovers per day
Once a day: 100% experience booster for 60 minutes (stacks with the permanent effect)
Once a day: 100% EP XP for 60 minutes




Isn't it nice when the publisher actually cares?
TERA PC - General Discussion#48 TJKat03/26/2019, 11:34 AM
Reading through GF's patch notes, not only is there no real new content to go with the level cap, they're removing 75 quests from the game.
According to Tera EU patch notes

"You can also open the TERA Shop via the “+” icon, where you can purchase additional Adventure Coin."
Yes buy it, not free at all.

Instance Reset Scrolls will become ineffective with this patch. You can sell them to merchants for gold


Ouch, this sound painful, lol. Be ready to pay for play whales.
TERA PC - General Discussion#50 vkobe03/26/2019, 03:56 PM
voidy wrote: »
Well, for anyone interested (since na will likely get a very similar patch), EU dropped patch notes in advance.
https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/patch-note-80-curse-from-the-skies

Old zones are getting a really ugly looking reskin. Dungeons are getting the 'dungeon coin' treatment. Level cap boosted. etc.
Dunno when you guys will get this monstrosity of an 'expansion,' but consider yourselves lucky for getting it later. It looks terrible. Dungeon coins will let you run the same dungeon more times, but it appears to let you run less overall content before running out of coins. The level cap is grindy as hell and everyone already knows this. And now, to top it off, even more of the game's pretty maps are being given the island of dawn treatment, with recolored 'new' BAMs to grind for hours. Also there's a new skill upgrading system that's rumored to cost hundreds of thousands of gold, so that's great.

my god, they ruined island of dawn and pora elinu, now they going to ruin other nice places

not my tera :'(
vkobe wrote: »
my god, they ruined island of dawn and pora elinu, now they going to ruin other nice places

not my tera :'(

I'm not happy abput this either ... </3

TERA PC - General Discussion#52 voidy03/26/2019, 04:53 PM
vkobe wrote: »
voidy wrote: »
Well, for anyone interested (since na will likely get a very similar patch), EU dropped patch notes in advance.
https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/patch-note-80-curse-from-the-skies

Old zones are getting a really ugly looking reskin. Dungeons are getting the 'dungeon coin' treatment. Level cap boosted. etc.
Dunno when you guys will get this monstrosity of an 'expansion,' but consider yourselves lucky for getting it later. It looks terrible. Dungeon coins will let you run the same dungeon more times, but it appears to let you run less overall content before running out of coins. The level cap is grindy as hell and everyone already knows this. And now, to top it off, even more of the game's pretty maps are being given the island of dawn treatment, with recolored 'new' BAMs to grind for hours. Also there's a new skill upgrading system that's rumored to cost hundreds of thousands of gold, so that's great.

my god, they ruined island of dawn and pora elinu, now they going to ruin other nice places

not my tera :'(
vkobe wrote: »
my god, they ruined island of dawn and pora elinu, now they going to ruin other nice places

not my tera :'(
I'm not happy about this either
TERA PC - General Discussion#53 TheKings03/26/2019, 05:04 PM
So no level 70 ... it's a just normal maintenance and nothing else people .... just go sleep :astonished:
voidy wrote: »

change_is_hard.jpg
Here is a sample of what's to come. Before and after!
PSA: Take your screenshots now, while you still can.
Oh my God!! My heart is beyond broken
TERA PC - General Discussion#55 sanj6603/26/2019, 06:23 PM
> @counterpoint said:
> sanj66 wrote: »
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> Melyodis wrote: »
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> kubitoid wrote: »
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> castanicpriest wrote: »
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> And this also probably matters: Lost Ark was released at RU
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> it wasnt thou. i just browsed their vk page and it says that cbt starts this summer and obt will take its place later in early autumn. maybe. its being published in ru by worst publisher ever - mail.ru. so nope, no hype. also genderlock. also limited entries. no thanks. lol i can imagine grim dawn with crucible entries limited to 2-3 per day :p
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> let me switch gears a bit go get a life man you seem impatient to wait for major patch when it comes with bugs you get pissed same way be patient nah man castanicpriest wrote: »
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> I went over at Gameforge Tera to read more about the level 70 patch notes since they usually give so much more detalied information and this is what i have found by coincidence...
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> https://en.tera.gameforge.com/news/detail/event-pvp-challenges-3
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> In other words, they are doing what i heard so many times in the past and that is the fact that they are making the PvP gear to be much more easier to be acquired practically removing the imbalance from the players with +7 PvP gear and the players with +9 PvP gear by giving more PvP materials to players and obviously counter the ridiculous enchanting rates that were inherently given by the developer.
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> You drop that pvp link from GF like its a permanent change its an event plenty rewarding than the one we have going on here. so i don't get your point there still rng at play the rate will still be high and ur gear will still get damaged i don't see the joy in it anyway that GF is doing something so big.
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> let me switch it up and tell you when have eme in recent times since the era of pattrick etc not drop a patch with every single bug that came from ktera and was fixed on ktera but we still got it? lmao can you be more of a whiteknight, eme Q&A team is on a comedy level chapelle cant even compete on. these guys claim to test the game for Q&A reasons yet seem to have no clue what is what, if you even bothered to read the OP the issue was not when or if we get the patch but the silence surrounding it even though it was listed as coming out this month, not even a hey things are a bit busy and we cant deliver due to X or Y, no it was simply if you were in the eme discord, check back next week we might have some info, continuous for multiple weeks. so maybe instead of white knighting you should take your own advice?
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> This thread needs to be less toxic on both sides.
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> For what it's worth, EME QA team doesn't do overall game testing (that's BHS's job), they test whether the patch they receive does what BHS told them it should (in BHS's provided notes to them), and whether it integrates with EME's custom systems properly. All the regions inherit the same K-TERA bugs because that's as-shipped by BHS, and BHS already knows about them (so telling them is pointless). The QA team is supposed to notify BHS about any bugs they find that are unique to the region or that BHS doesn't know about. If it's a bug on BHS's side, it's entirely up to BHS whether they will fix them. This is not meant to "white knight" them or anyone; this is simply what their job is and why we get the K-TERA bugs anyway. It doesn't mean they don't need a QA process or that the process they have is negligent/incompetent. Reporting bugs is QA's job. Fixing bugs is development's job. For BHS to ship bugs they already know about to the other regions is not a fault of any of the publishers' QA, it's a management decision.

I mean the qa stream for hh with spacecats n that guy from the qa team was a joke he didnt seem to have a clue what to do or anything but thats beside the point. Eu tera is communicating with its players, @KitTeaCup and @BearShoes blatantly ignored everyone in stream asking for any update on the v80 patch, they even ignore the player council members and partners who were promised advanced info to spread to players. This is the level of professionalism from our great eme team? Its like since @KitTeaCup and @BearShoes took over they decide to just spit in the faces of the players that keep their game open. Treeshark bit the bullet with fihm, it wasnt easy but he told people about the fihm delay and worked with players to alleviate the disappointment as he valued his players/customers. What does @KitTeaCup and @BearShoes do? Check back next week we may have some info for 3 weeks running and soooo busy with twitch prime loot and a lvl 1-65 event lol, great job and community management @KitTeaCup @BearShoes
> @AriaofDiabolos said:
> voidy wrote: »
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> PSA: Take your screenshots now, while you still can.
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Regarding the adventure token system:

I did not have that much info until recently but it seems that not only that the prices for each dungeons are quite favorable for players as in you can do many of the high level dungeons up to x6 per day and x40 per week even without having elite activated to increase the maximum cap for adventure system tokens from 1k up to 1.6k while the vanguard shop has potions to improve the rate at which the players replenish the said tokens.

I thought that it is much more harsh but it looks to be quite friendly.
TERA PC - General Discussion#58 kubitoid03/26/2019, 08:28 PM
these patch notes were painful to browse. they continue to add meaningless things aka relics halidoms equipment fusion tals yphs etc crap that no sane person needs. meanwhile Grim Dawn addon (Forgotten Gods) is being released tomorrow :p
TERA PC - General Discussion#59 sanj6603/27/2019, 12:23 AM
"Unfortunately, due to PAX and whatnot, we can't share details for v80 this week. All I can say is that concrete details will be shared during the first 2 weeks of April.

I know people will be upset, but that's all I'm allowed to share right now" -KitTeaCup

could not even post an announcement or care to communicate to the player base especially when your road map lists it as this month, looks like the earliest we are gonna get v80 if we get it is half a month after other regions cuz pax and twitchprime loot is too important. @KitTeaCup thanks for completely ignoring the entire playerbase and being the complete opposite of what a cm is lmao this is jsut way too funny.
so i guess all this and the multiples of it went out the door:
KitTeaCup wrote: »
News for the next update is planned to go out next week, it'll call out the update and events surrounding it, plus a teaser of anniversary.

As @counterpoint mentioned, It's been a crazy time here at En Masse, there's a lot going on behind the scenes, and teams are shifting around. I appreciate those that have been really patient and understanding!
> @sanj66 said:
. @KitTeaCup thanks for completely ignoring the entire playerbase and being the complete opposite of what a cm is lmao this is jsut way too funny.

Dude i get youre upset but the incessant heckling, yes incessant its almost every post i read from you now, isnt going to make them speed up any faster or give you anymore than what they will give.

All this is going to accomplish is you getting shadow banned and/or making them bitter/defiant.

Youre curving away from.being constructive to downright malicious.
TERA PC - General Discussion#61 voidy03/27/2019, 06:31 AM
> @sanj66 said:
. @KitTeaCup thanks for completely ignoring the entire playerbase and being the complete opposite of what a cm is lmao this is jsut way too funny.

Dude i get youre upset but the incessant heckling, yes incessant its almost every post i read from you now, isnt going to make them speed up any faster or give you anymore than what they will give.

All this is going to accomplish is you getting shadow banned and/or making them bitter/defiant.

You know, I've been kind of nursing a similar concern as Sanj, but I was trying not to say anything since it doesn't really concern me anymore. But posts like yours almost force me to respond, because even though I can see where you're coming from on this, I feel like Sanj's response is appropriate and I'll outline exactly why.

KTC's post was the first actual staff response to a player in the PC section in over two months. You're worried that a highly critical tone might force a "bitter/defiant" response from the EME staff. I would suggest that the staff are already displaying a pattern of bitter and defiant attitudes towards their players by ignoring them for months, only to come out with "no news, because PAX!" You're basically telling someone not to even bring this up for fear that we might get less communication in the future, even though communication is basically at 0 right now. Like... I'm sorry, dude. I worked customer service for years. I get it. But dude. They basically have unpaid volunteers running their forums for them at this point, and only recently, extremely recently, have staff finally remembered that this section exists, long enough to post basically nothing.

It really, really looks like some [filtered] went down behind the scenes, which sucks for people who might've lost their jobs in the mess, but honestly if this is how they communicate with all their players in other games, then it's no wonder they had to shut down Closers, and it's no wonder they have dwindling numbers everywhere else. Like, how hard is it to just check your forums once in the morning and then again before leaving work? It'd take like, a minute to just scroll the general section and less than 10 minutes to write some half-assed reply so people at least know someone's in the office who gives a [filtered].
voidy wrote: »
> @sanj66 said:
. @KitTeaCup thanks for completely ignoring the entire playerbase and being the complete opposite of what a cm is lmao this is jsut way too funny.

Dude i get youre upset but the incessant heckling, yes incessant its almost every post i read from you now, isnt going to make them speed up any faster or give you anymore than what they will give.

All this is going to accomplish is you getting shadow banned and/or making them bitter/defiant.

You know, I've been kind of nursing a similar concern as Sanj, but I was trying not to say anything since it doesn't really concern me anymore. But posts like yours almost force me to respond, because even though I can see where you're coming from on this, I feel like Sanj's response is appropriate and I'll outline exactly why. I'd also like to preface this by saying that nothing here is meant personally, it's just me writing my thoughts on specific actions taken by staff, not on the staff members as people.

KTC's post was the first actual staff response to a player in the PC section in over two months. You're worried that a highly critical tone might force a "bitter/defiant" response from the EME staff. I would suggest that the staff are already displaying a pattern of bitter and defiant attitudes towards their players by ignoring them for months, only to come out with "no news, because PAX!" You're basically telling someone not to even bring this up for fear that we might get less communication in the future, even though communication is basically at 0 right now. Like... I'm sorry, dude. I worked customer service for years. I get it. But dude. They basically have unpaid volunteers running their forums for them at this point, and only recently, extremely recently, have staff finally remembered that this section exists, long enough to post what amounts to ... nothing.

It really, really looks like some [filtered] went down behind the scenes, which sucks for people who might've lost their jobs in the mess, but honestly if this is how they communicate with all their players in other games, then it's no wonder they had to shut down Kritika, and it's no wonder they have dwindling numbers everywhere else. Like, how hard is it to just check your forums once in the morning and then again before leaving work? It'd take like, a minute to just scroll the general section and less than 10 minutes to write replies to a post or two just so people at least know someone's still alive in the office and reading their posts. Like... think about how this looks from a normal player's point of view: There are less people on than ever before. The staff seem to have stopped responding to the PC forums. The only people even trying to respond to players are unpaid community volunteers. And the big expansion that folks are waiting on won't be announced because a video game convention takes precedence. Couple that with Kritika shutting down, and idk fam, it's just a bad look all around. But whatever, EME can do what they want with their titles! It's clearly working.

tl;dr stop relying on good natured community volunteers and actually engage with your community, but eh what do I know haha byeeeeeeee

Agreed.

To be honest, I fear Closers might be the next game closed.
Which is a pity, I like that game.
> @voidy said:
> tl;dr stop relying on good natured community volunteers and actually engage with your community, but eh what do I know haha byeeeeeeee

I get where youre coming from.as well and i get it, we want a response but at this point i dont think theyll give more than they want to give.

They have been doing this for a very long time now, every single time they claim theyll be more transparent, theyll engage us more on the forums, not lock info behind discord and it rarely ever happens.

We are constantly in the dark, missing info, given mis info, having to correct the info from a different region etc

Its been going on so long that i feel Sanj, i do, i want to be angry too but i know nothing will change.

But turning up the oven will just make them hide behind their player council shields and people like CounterPoint will pop along to try and EmEsplain and try to appeal to both sides.

How long has this been going on?

A long, exhaustingly long time. I feel like Sanj efforts are just better spent elsewhere.

Remember the proxy debacle? Weve seen how they handle harsh criticism even if it not a personal attack.

It feels like everything EmE is in control of is swirling the drain ready to die

You can stamp and light a fire under them.as much as the next guy but i cant be the only person who sees how pointless this is considering the track record.
kubitoid wrote: »
these patch notes were painful to browse. they continue to add meaningless things aka relics halidoms equipment fusion tals yphs etc crap that no sane person needs. meanwhile Grim Dawn addon (Forgotten Gods) is being released tomorrow :p

Aside: I already plan on making an Oppressor (Oathkeeper + Necromancer). You? :smile:
TERA PC - General Discussion#65 tisnotme03/27/2019, 11:48 AM
SageWindu wrote: »
kubitoid wrote: »
these patch notes were painful to browse. they continue to add meaningless things aka relics halidoms equipment fusion tals yphs etc crap that no sane person needs. meanwhile Grim Dawn addon (Forgotten Gods) is being released tomorrow :p

Aside: I already plan on making an Oppressor (Oathkeeper + Necromancer). You? :smile:

me im waiting to see what goes on sale at what price with the forgotten gods expansion and see what bundle i buy to my introduction in to that then work out what im gonna play
TERA PC - General Discussion#66 voidy03/27/2019, 01:58 PM
You can stamp and light a fire under them.as much as the next guy but i cant be the only person who sees how pointless this is considering the track record.

Yeah I get that. Like I mentioned earlier, I'm not losing sleep over this; I hardly play anymore (and when I do it's on EU). I just think it's sad and I check in every so often to see if it's gotten better.
TERA PC - General Discussion#67 Melyodis03/27/2019, 02:41 PM
voidy wrote: »
> @sanj66 said:
. @KitTeaCup thanks for completely ignoring the entire playerbase and being the complete opposite of what a cm is lmao this is jsut way too funny.

Dude i get youre upset but the incessant heckling, yes incessant its almost every post i read from you now, isnt going to make them speed up any faster or give you anymore than what they will give.

All this is going to accomplish is you getting shadow banned and/or making them bitter/defiant.

You know, I've been kind of nursing a similar concern as Sanj, but I was trying not to say anything since it doesn't really concern me anymore. But posts like yours almost force me to respond, because even though I can see where you're coming from on this, I feel like Sanj's response is appropriate and I'll outline exactly why. I'd also like to preface this by saying that nothing here is meant personally, it's just me writing my thoughts on specific actions taken by staff, not on the staff members as people.

KTC's post was the first actual staff response to a player in the PC section in over two months. You're worried that a highly critical tone might force a "bitter/defiant" response from the EME staff. I would suggest that the staff are already displaying a pattern of bitter and defiant attitudes towards their players by ignoring them for months, only to come out with "no news, because PAX!" You're basically telling someone not to even bring this up for fear that we might get less communication in the future, even though communication is basically at 0 right now. Like... I'm sorry, dude. I worked customer service for years. I get it. But dude. They basically have unpaid volunteers running their forums for them at this point, and only recently, extremely recently, have staff finally remembered that this section exists, long enough to post what amounts to ... nothing.

It really, really looks like some [filtered] went down behind the scenes, which sucks for people who might've lost their jobs in the mess, but honestly if this is how they communicate with all their players in other games, then it's no wonder they had to shut down Kritika, and it's no wonder they have dwindling numbers everywhere else. Like, how hard is it to just check your forums once in the morning and then again before leaving work? It'd take like, a minute to just scroll the general section and less than 10 minutes to write replies to a post or two just so people at least know someone's still alive in the office and reading their posts. Like... think about how this looks from a normal player's point of view: There are less people on than ever before. The staff seem to have stopped responding to the PC forums. The only people even trying to respond to players are unpaid community volunteers. And the big expansion that folks are waiting on won't be announced because a video game convention takes precedence. Couple that with Kritika shutting down, and idk fam, it's just a bad look all around. But whatever, EME can do what they want with their titles! It's clearly working.

tl;dr stop relying on good natured community volunteers and actually engage with your community, but eh what do I know haha byeeeeeeee

I Totally agree with your point but we are in 2019 your point is nothing new and the whole community can relate and agree. But the state and way things going is beyond talk it deserves drastic actions by us the community of tera but no we continue to support the garbage service we getting not and then we would act out like few in in this thread including myself but when will stand up and say enough is enough we stop play we come back hoping change but still disappointment comes and slaps us in the face. I love this game very much i'm still playing because I like the game play i'm just awaiting something with better game play. Ijust think the time for talking has passed and what had be done now is the community come together as one and stand up against the nonsense taking place where the game is concern but i'm just dreaming player will continue to play spend cash ect.
No DISRESPECT BUT IT JUST SEEM LIKE TERA NA player base likes garbage service and how I would describe it.
TERA PC - General Discussion#68 nozoyo03/27/2019, 02:55 PM
Hi, patch will be going live on the 9th of April. An official announcement should go live sometime soon too. Expect more detailed information about the patch between now and the patch.
TERA PC - General Discussion#69 Aluh03/27/2019, 06:19 PM
nozoyo wrote: »
Hi, patch will be going live on the 9th of April. An official announcement should go live sometime soon too. Expect more detailed information about the patch between now and the patch.

Who r u and where did u get that info
TERA PC - General Discussion#70 buffons03/27/2019, 06:56 PM
So reading through the patch notes it's quite clear that the "expansion" is just a massive long and tedious grind patch. Also reading up on how some people have been describing that even koreans hate the grind, why is this patch still being pushed through? Surely even the fools are EME must know that this will put a final nail in their game? lol?
buffons wrote: »
So reading through the patch notes it's quite clear that the "expansion" is just a massive long and tedious grind patch. Also reading up on how some people have been describing that even koreans hate the grind, why is this patch still being pushed through? Surely even the fools are EME must know that this will put a final nail in their game? lol?

What do you want them to do? Endlessly delay the patch so NA is stuck on the same version for months/years?
TERA PC - General Discussion#72 Lapomko03/27/2019, 09:17 PM
Digivolve wrote: »
buffons wrote: »
So reading through the patch notes it's quite clear that the "expansion" is just a massive long and tedious grind patch. Also reading up on how some people have been describing that even koreans hate the grind, why is this patch still being pushed through? Surely even the fools are EME must know that this will put a final nail in their game? lol?

What do you want them to do? Endlessly delay the patch so NA is stuck on the same version for months/years?

I rather want them to fix the game rather then adding content that make everyone leave. I know everyone wants it. Who doesn't want server/client sided 100% working skill prediction. Better optimizations. Cap exploit in cs lol.
buffons wrote: »
So reading through the patch notes it's quite clear that the "expansion" is just a massive long and tedious grind patch. Also reading up on how some people have been describing that even koreans hate the grind, why is this patch still being pushed through? Surely even the fools are EME must know that this will put a final nail in their game? lol?

koreans only really complained cause of the first week being complete [filtered] xp gain wise, its been made a [filtered] load easier and other regions have all of those minor patches bundled together, so its not nearly as bad as what people think tbh
TERA PC - General Discussion#74 Christin03/28/2019, 03:18 AM
voidy wrote: »
> @sanj66 said:
. @KitTeaCup thanks for completely ignoring the entire playerbase and being the complete opposite of what a cm is lmao this is jsut way too funny.

Dude i get youre upset but the incessant heckling, yes incessant its almost every post i read from you now, isnt going to make them speed up any faster or give you anymore than what they will give.

All this is going to accomplish is you getting shadow banned and/or making them bitter/defiant.

You know, I've been kind of nursing a similar concern as Sanj, but I was trying not to say anything since it doesn't really concern me anymore. But posts like yours almost force me to respond, because even though I can see where you're coming from on this, I feel like Sanj's response is appropriate and I'll outline exactly why. I'd also like to preface this by saying that nothing here is meant personally, it's just me writing my thoughts on specific actions taken by staff, not on the staff members as people.

KTC's post was the first actual staff response to a player in the PC section in over two months. You're worried that a highly critical tone might force a "bitter/defiant" response from the EME staff. I would suggest that the staff are already displaying a pattern of bitter and defiant attitudes towards their players by ignoring them for months, only to come out with "no news, because PAX!" You're basically telling someone not to even bring this up for fear that we might get less communication in the future, even though communication is basically at 0 right now. Like... I'm sorry, dude. I worked customer service for years. I get it. But dude. They basically have unpaid volunteers running their forums for them at this point, and only recently, extremely recently, have staff finally remembered that this section exists, long enough to post what amounts to ... nothing.

It really, really looks like some [filtered] went down behind the scenes, which sucks for people who might've lost their jobs in the mess, but honestly if this is how they communicate with all their players in other games, then it's no wonder they had to shut down Kritika, and it's no wonder they have dwindling numbers everywhere else. Like, how hard is it to just check your forums once in the morning and then again before leaving work? It'd take like, a minute to just scroll the general section and less than 10 minutes to write replies to a post or two just so people at least know someone's still alive in the office and reading their posts. Like... think about how this looks from a normal player's point of view: There are less people on than ever before. The staff seem to have stopped responding to the PC forums. The only people even trying to respond to players are unpaid community volunteers. And the big expansion that folks are waiting on won't be announced because a video game convention takes precedence. Couple that with Kritika shutting down, and idk fam, it's just a bad look all around. But whatever, EME can do what they want with their titles! It's clearly working.

tl;dr stop relying on good natured community volunteers and actually engage with your community, but eh what do I know haha byeeeeeeee

Yet when I say there is a lot of pent-up hostility towards us PC players, a certain someone consistently shuts me down and gives excuse after excuse as to why they may be overlooking us. It's obvious when you look at the history of what happened and what all has gone down these past two years. However, people keep blaming it all on exploits and blah, blah, blah.

TBH it seems somewhat apparent now that the other games most likely received similar treatment and are closing due to poor management. No doubt, there is a big change already in the works. I've seen this kind of stuff over and over again, and it was obvious what was going on. Whenever you have management calling paying players names and sitting there with a plank of wood on their shoulder, the outcome was predictable. Apparently, the whole, "who needs Tera PC players when we have other player bases to spend time on," hasn't worked out in their favor.

My point is that we went from someone that actually cared about the community to a staff (no, I don't think it's all on one person either) that doesn't bother to give codes, can't be bothered to stream or even really play the game, has no interest in making events fun but rather makes events just to say they did something for the community and has adopted the attitude that we should be happy with what we get. They've gutted the store, don't change items around much, leave everything broken and have a general "we don't really give a flip" attitude as seen with the dressing room and other issues. I used to like to buy stuff, but it's such a hassle now. I can't buy EMP, because nothing much is left to buy in the store. Heck, I can't even try on half of the costumes anymore. It's a dice roll to see if an outfit is even in the dressing room or not. Even their latest leveling event is outstandingly boring and gives nothing but gems and strongbox keys along with a bunch of temp stuff (snore).

I want the game to succeed. I really do, but when people seem to consistently make poor judgements, it's tough to feel sorry for them. It's time to change attitudes and see players as positive assets rather than annoying beggars. Giving out codes and making players feel appreciated doesn't mean those players are greedy or cheap. In fact, many of them will make purchases to reward a company for their generosity. I sure know my wallet was way more open when a certain someone was here than it is now. The way it is now, I feel I don't get much from the game, so why should I give much in return?

It's also sad that they feel the need to trash certain areas in order to make them ready for the new quests. Remember when players were looking forward to new patches? Now, we're more likely dreading them.
nozoyo wrote: »
Hi, patch will be going live on the 9th of April. An official announcement should go live sometime soon too. Expect more detailed information about the patch between now and the patch.

FWIW, this date is accurate.

I'd like to also ask this thread to try to remain on topic for the patch itself. Discussing the many failures of EME is cathartic, but it's not going to change anything about this patch, its contents, or the fact all the global regions are getting it whether they like it or not.
TERA PC - General Discussion#76 Melyodis03/28/2019, 04:31 AM
voidy wrote: »

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Here is a sample of what's to come. Before and after!
PSA: Take your screenshots now, while you still can.
Oh my God!! My heart is beyond broken
TERA PC - General Discussion#77 vkobe03/28/2019, 04:34 AM
i suppose we can only enjoy tera 2 weeks before than tera ship hit level 70 iceberg :3
TERA PC - General Discussion#78 sanj6603/28/2019, 04:39 AM
nozoyo wrote: »
Hi, patch will be going live on the 9th of April. An official announcement should go live sometime soon too. Expect more detailed information about the patch between now and the patch.

FWIW, this date is accurate. (Unless it changes again.)

I'd like to also ask this thread to try to remain on topic for the patch itself. Discussing the many failures of EME is cathartic, but it's not going to change anything about this patch, its contents, or the fact all the global regions are getting it whether they like it or not.

i would say the converse, the many failures of eme is relevant to the topic of the patch, while udnerstanding NDA's etc i dont think it is beyond expectation to atleast have a "we've run into some issues and the patch cant be delivered at the expected time,please understand we're trying to put out the best build for you guys" yet we recieve no word, no replies and partners and player council members got completely ignored or got the generic hey maybe next week we might have some info, their failure on communication and delilvering on a promise as it was clearly stated in their roadmap to be released within march. the gripe for most people is not with the date its with the utter and complete failure of eme's cm to atleast address or have basic communication with the player base. there are things about the patch people would like to know so that they can try to get resources etc in place for the patch and new gear etc. while you might say gameforge only did an indepth stream days before the patch, they posted an announcement week/s in advance about the patch and its date and went more indepth with the stream. what has eme and/or its cm done for us? hid behind the player council and partners as a shield to handle the fallout for the lac of communication on her part and to pass on information. i would say the issues with this patch is nothing short of a corrobartion of the almost total failure that is the current eme staff.
sanj66 wrote: »
what has eme and/or its cm done for us? hid behind the player council and partners as a shield to handle the fallout for the lack of communication on her part and to pass on information. i would say the issues with this patch is nothing short of a corrobartion of the almost total failure that is the current eme staff.

Do you think you're going to guilt them into something? The community team is down to 2 people, doing the job that used to be done by 4, and the production team was reorganized to spread the weight thinner there too. They prioritize what their bosses tell them to do so they don't get fired, and you know what? It's not spending their time on this forum reading people like you telling them they're doing their job wrong.

Yes, it sucks, but they're well aware. You constantly harping on it and @ ing them won't solve anything. People need to at least try to remain constructive and focus on the actual issues rather than laying blame. Everyone cares about this game very much and wants it to succeed, and it's totally understood that that is the heart of where feedback comes from. But if your faith in the game and this publisher is already past the point of remaining constructive, it's time to leave.
TERA PC - General Discussion#80 Palochi03/28/2019, 02:54 PM
@counterpoint Out of curiosity, do you know what their bosses are telling them to do?
Pretty sure most ppl don't feel like we have people managing the community, so it's kinda weird that their position in the company would be that when their bosses tell them to do something else or something that the community doesn't see.
TERA PC - General Discussion#81 nozoyo03/28/2019, 03:50 PM
Aluh wrote: »
nozoyo wrote: »
Hi, patch will be going live on the 9th of April. An official announcement should go live sometime soon too. Expect more detailed information about the patch between now and the patch.

Who r u and where did u get that info

I'm Ann, recently became player council. I haven't really been active on forums but trying to be more active now, usually more active on discords.
TERA PC - General Discussion#82 Melyodis03/28/2019, 06:23 PM
sanj66 wrote: »
what has eme and/or its cm done for us? hid behind the player council and partners as a shield to handle the fallout for the lack of communication on her part and to pass on information. i would say the issues with this patch is nothing short of a corrobartion of the almost total failure that is the current eme staff.

Do you think you're going to guilt them into something? The community team is down to 2 people, doing the job that used to be done by 4, and the production team was reorganized to spread the weight thinner there too. They prioritize what their bosses tell them to do so they don't get fired, and you know what? It's not spending their time on this forum reading people like you telling them they're doing their job wrong.

Yes, it sucks, but they're well aware. You constantly harping on it and @ ing them won't solve anything. People need to at least try to remain constructive and focus on the actual issues rather than laying blame. Everyone cares about this game very much and wants it to succeed, and it's totally understood that that is the heart of where feedback comes from. But if your faith in the game and this publisher is already past the point of remaining constructive, it's time to leave.

well said bro
TERA PC - General Discussion#83 Christin03/28/2019, 07:56 PM
sanj66 wrote: »
what has eme and/or its cm done for us? hid behind the player council and partners as a shield to handle the fallout for the lack of communication on her part and to pass on information. i would say the issues with this patch is nothing short of a corrobartion of the almost total failure that is the current eme staff.

Do you think you're going to guilt them into something? The community team is down to 2 people, doing the job that used to be done by 4, and the production team was reorganized to spread the weight thinner there too. They prioritize what their bosses tell them to do so they don't get fired, and you know what? It's not spending their time on this forum reading people like you telling them they're doing their job wrong.

Yes, it sucks, but they're well aware. You constantly harping on it and @ ing them won't solve anything. People need to at least try to remain constructive and focus on the actual issues rather than laying blame. Everyone cares about this game very much and wants it to succeed, and it's totally understood that that is the heart of where feedback comes from. But if your faith in the game and this publisher is already past the point of remaining constructive, it's time to leave.

So you're pretty much telling us to gtfo if we have anything negative to say about management? My previous post was clearing pointing directly to management. I don't blame the staff and, honestly, I've never blamed the staff.

In fact, your entire post pretty much gives us all of the details on what's going on while slamming us for bringing it up in the first place. You're not paid staff either nor are you management, so I don't understand why you're taking everything so personal.

The main topic of the post is about the lack of news or any type of communication about the new patch. Telling us to stay on topic when we post about hostilities and such doesn't make much sense seeing as how it all goes together. Then, someone actually posts a date to which you agree will be the release date. Wow, thanks a lot for telling us. I gather you've had that information all along, however, someone else seems to be brave enough to actually tell US.

That is the entire point that the OP is making. Y'all give so many excuses yet one person took the whole 2 minutes to give us more information that you simply couldn't be bothered with. However, shame on us for being annoyed? We are focused on the actual issue, but as many people have tried and failed being constructive really gets us nowhere. There are tons of constructive criticism posts that continue to be ignored or get someone like you posting excuses or badgering them for "not being positive enough".

I don't think anyone is really mad. I think it's what most of us have come to expect. CM's aren't to blame when they've clearly been instructed not to respond in forums and so on. If people really wanted the game to succeed, a lot of things would be much different than they are now, so I really don't believe you on that one. The game was succeeding and continuing on strong. Then, management was changed and things have somewhat gone downhill from there. Without the Legion quests keeping this game alive, there would have already been another merge by now.

Thanks again Ann. At least now we know something. Of course, we know the date could change. However, at least you took the time to give us some actual info rather than treat us all like a bunch of children. That is greatly appreciated.
TERA PC - General Discussion#84 Christin03/28/2019, 08:11 PM
BTW, if you're just going to start posting that whole "If you don't like it leave," you might be surprised at how many people really start to take you up on that. Telling people to remain constructive and then leaving it up to yourself to determine whether or not something is constructive reminds me of a dictatorship, but what do I know?
sanj66 wrote: »
nozoyo wrote: »
Hi, patch will be going live on the 9th of April. An official announcement should go live sometime soon too. Expect more detailed information about the patch between now and the patch.

FWIW, this date is accurate. (Unless it changes again.)

I'd like to also ask this thread to try to remain on topic for the patch itself. Discussing the many failures of EME is cathartic, but it's not going to change anything about this patch, its contents, or the fact all the global regions are getting it whether they like it or not.

i would say the converse, the many failures of eme is relevant to the topic of the patch, while understanding NDA's etc i dont think it is beyond expectation to atleast have a "we've run into some issues and the patch cant be delivered at the expected time,please understand we're trying to put out the best build for you guys" yet we recieve no word, no replies and partners and player council members got completely ignored or got the generic hey maybe next week we might have some info, their failure on communication and delilvering on a promise as it was clearly stated in their roadmap to be released within march. the gripe for most people is not with the date its with the utter and complete failure of eme's cm to atleast address or have basic communication with the player base. there are things about the patch people would like to know so that they can try to get resources etc in place for the patch and new gear etc. while you might say gameforge only did an indepth stream days before the patch, they posted an announcement week/s in advance about the patch and its date and went more indepth with the stream. what has eme and/or its cm done for us? hid behind the player council and partners as a shield to handle the fallout for the lack of communication on her part and to pass on information. i would say the issues with this patch is nothing short of a corrobartion of the almost total failure that is the current eme staff.

Sorry you are being met with so much hostility, but apparently, you need to change "staff" to "management". Once you do that, your posts will most likely be seen as constructive rather than a certain someone telling you to leave if you don't like it. Unfortunately, not all of the people that interact on these forums are mature and some are even drunk on the Tang. IMO your post was fine and expressed what many of the players are feeling. However, I have a feeling that the staff has been instructed not to reply to the forums much if at all. I mean they clearly had a release date and felt it was necessary to even keep that from us. However, mentioning the hostilities between players and management is going off topic, so I won't go there.
Christin wrote: »
BTW, if you're just going to start posting that whole "If you don't like it leave," you might be surprised at how many people really start to take you up on that. Telling people to remain constructive and then leaving it up to yourself to determine whether or not something is constructive reminds me of a dictatorship, but what do I know?

This shouldn't be a surprise, but private forums actually are a benevolent dictatorship. When you join the forum, you agree to abide by the Rules. The moderators were appointed to enforce the rules. To the extent that is at all possible the mods try to allow all kinds of criticism because everyone understands that it comes from people who care about the game and want to see it improve. But staff call-outs are against the rules (even if you call out "management"). Since I don't want to delete posts or ban people, I'm asking that people try to remain constructive, stay off-topic, avoid call-outs, and all the other things thing rules say.

Anyway, I'm going to lock this derailed thread, and as more news of the next patch comes out, we can discuss it (if threads don't already exist on those topics).
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