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TERA PC - General Discussion: Golden talent supply problem coming back
TERA PC - General Discussion#1 Ray67602/05/2019, 05:20 AM
Slowly going up in price. Was 50g each before the shorehold patch, now it's 70g each. Slowly going up and up and not going down at any point in the day.

You know it's a problem when Silver Talents are cheaper the Gold ones.

Silly to remove Golden Talents from Bellacarium credits shop. Also even more silly to remove Item XP from Battlegrounds vanguards, we still need Item XP to upgrade jewelry...

Unneeded changes create too many problems.
Everything is going up in price, but I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. I haven't even bothered to farm lately, because the prices of everything is getting extreme. I feel sorry for new players as they have no hope. By the time you save up for anything, it has double or tripled in price. Not sure why you guys think talents are somehow supposed to be immune from the price spikes. Just a few days ago there were 15 pages of talents. That would tell me that there are still a lot in game. Now, there are 6 pages, but if you wait until a weekend, amounts for sale will go up again.
TERA PC - General Discussion#3 Ray67602/05/2019, 11:53 AM
Christin wrote: »
Everything is going up in price, but I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. I haven't even bothered to farm lately, because the prices of everything is getting extreme. I feel sorry for new players as they have no hope. By the time you save up for anything, it has double or tripled in price. Not sure why you guys think talents are somehow supposed to be immune from the price spikes. Just a few days ago there were 15 pages of talents. That would tell me that there are still a lot in game. Now, there are 6 pages, but if you wait until a weekend, amounts for sale will go up again.

I literally said why the price is spiking and continuing to go up. Pvp BC shop removed golden talents(and other stuff) Another reason is that you only get 1 Battleground enchanting material box per vanguard now. Compared to pre-patch getting 4 for a loss and 7 for a win in CS. One higher for fwc.

Which after spamming pvp for a few hours you would have a good amount of material boxes which would net you many Golden talents to use for crafting. Along with other materials and silver talents.

Not to mention it's been almost a week and there is still no Battleground Coins added back to pvp vanguards
Ray676 wrote: »
Slowly going up in price. Was 50g each before the shorehold patch, now it's 70g each. Slowly going up and up and not going down at any point in the day.

You know it's a problem when Silver Talents are cheaper the Gold ones.

Silly to remove Golden Talents from Bellacarium credits shop. Also even more silly to remove Item XP from Battlegrounds vanguards, we still need Item XP to upgrade jewelry...

Unneeded changes create too many problems.

They also removed the battleground coins while the dungeons coins are still there so yet another loss from the PvP side of the game.
Christin wrote: »
Everything is going up in price, but I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. I haven't even bothered to farm lately, because the prices of everything is getting extreme. I feel sorry for new players as they have no hope. By the time you save up for anything, it has double or tripled in price. Not sure why you guys think talents are somehow supposed to be immune from the price spikes. Just a few days ago there were 15 pages of talents. That would tell me that there are still a lot in game. Now, there are 6 pages, but if you wait until a weekend, amounts for sale will go up again.

It might have some sense considering the EMP based golden talents boxes and even the normal golden talents that can be opened with strongbox keys which are mostly acquired with yet even more EMP.

And i would not mind that overall but the issue is that there is a visible lack of golden talents in the game at the moment and it is so much harder to upgrade/enchanting anything ( i wanted to enchant some alts and make them better but it is incredibly expensive when having to spend 400k up 500k or even more depending on luck to enchant from +5Storm up to +7Storm.. and i would buy the weapon straight forward but i am already at +5storm on alt and i have already invested a lot ).
just straight up BadJobBHS
alot of ppl including me have posted before about this issue but we recieved nothin from eme ,

while eu is swimming with talents be it golden or silver ( from elleon coins) , we have to go the extra mile and sleep in IoD cause its the only way to get a good handful
They removed the talents from the VG shop because they have their own equipment specifically for PVP, that's upgraded through mats from PVP. The reason talents were available in PVP before, is because your standard progression gear was used for both PVP and PVE. Now it's split the way it was back in the Tensus/Lucid patch, where you PVP for PVP gear, and PVE for PVE gear. Pretty simple concept. And let's be honest, the amount of mats you get from PVE is so low that people horde for themselves most of the time due to the excessive costs to enchant in this stupid enchanting system. Anyone with half a brain could have seen this coming with the release of PVP specific gear.
Meanwhile on EU, super event with free things and prizes for community xd.
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Ray676 wrote: »
Slowly going up in price. Was 50g each before the shorehold patch, now it's 70g each. Slowly going up and up and not going down at any point in the day.

You know it's a problem when Silver Talents are cheaper the Gold ones.

Silly to remove Golden Talents from Bellacarium credits shop. Also even more silly to remove Item XP from Battlegrounds vanguards, we still need Item XP to upgrade jewelry...

Unneeded changes create too many problems.

They also removed the battleground coins while the dungeons coins are still there so yet another loss from the PvP side of the game.
Christin wrote: »
Everything is going up in price, but I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. I haven't even bothered to farm lately, because the prices of everything is getting extreme. I feel sorry for new players as they have no hope. By the time you save up for anything, it has double or tripled in price. Not sure why you guys think talents are somehow supposed to be immune from the price spikes. Just a few days ago there were 15 pages of talents. That would tell me that there are still a lot in game. Now, there are 6 pages, but if you wait until a weekend, amounts for sale will go up again.

It might have some sense considering the EMP based golden talents boxes and even the normal golden talents that can be opened with strongbox keys which are mostly acquired with yet even more EMP.

And i would not mind that overall but the issue is that there is a visible lack of golden talents in the game at the moment and it is so much harder to upgrade/enchanting anything ( i wanted to enchant some alts and make them better but it is incredibly expensive when having to spend 400k up 500k or even more depending on luck to enchant from +5Storm up to +7Storm.. and i would buy the weapon straight forward but i am already at +5storm on alt and i have already invested a lot ).

Because Battle Ground and Dungeon Delver Coins are for events. Everyone knows they are only active during Event weekends.
TERA PC - General Discussion#10 Lapomko02/05/2019, 07:55 PM
It's normal because the whales with massive amount of gold are buying out the talents so they can resell them later when they are inflated.
TERA PC - General Discussion#11 Ray67602/06/2019, 01:03 AM
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Ray676 wrote: »
Slowly going up in price. Was 50g each before the shorehold patch, now it's 70g each. Slowly going up and up and not going down at any point in the day.

You know it's a problem when Silver Talents are cheaper the Gold ones.

Silly to remove Golden Talents from Bellacarium credits shop. Also even more silly to remove Item XP from Battlegrounds vanguards, we still need Item XP to upgrade jewelry...

Unneeded changes create too many problems.

They also removed the battleground coins while the dungeons coins are still there so yet another loss from the PvP side of the game.
Christin wrote: »
Everything is going up in price, but I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. I haven't even bothered to farm lately, because the prices of everything is getting extreme. I feel sorry for new players as they have no hope. By the time you save up for anything, it has double or tripled in price. Not sure why you guys think talents are somehow supposed to be immune from the price spikes. Just a few days ago there were 15 pages of talents. That would tell me that there are still a lot in game. Now, there are 6 pages, but if you wait until a weekend, amounts for sale will go up again.

It might have some sense considering the EMP based golden talents boxes and even the normal golden talents that can be opened with strongbox keys which are mostly acquired with yet even more EMP.

And i would not mind that overall but the issue is that there is a visible lack of golden talents in the game at the moment and it is so much harder to upgrade/enchanting anything ( i wanted to enchant some alts and make them better but it is incredibly expensive when having to spend 400k up 500k or even more depending on luck to enchant from +5Storm up to +7Storm.. and i would buy the weapon straight forward but i am already at +5storm on alt and i have already invested a lot ).

Because Battle Ground and Dungeon Delver Coins are for events. Everyone knows they are only active during Event weekends.

Everyone except you it seems. Battleground coins were an everyday thing for several months now. only dungeon ones are weekend
TERA PC - General Discussion#12 Vy1Vivi02/06/2019, 01:37 AM
Well since the dungeon coins are only active during events it seems only fair that BG ones be only for events too. Not everyone likes to pvp or do bgs so they can't get the coins as often.

If I recall last year before all of the Christmas golden box specials gold talents were double the price even when you could still get them with bg credits. I think part of the reason for the price rise is because all of the cheap talents from all of those events are gone now and the old prices are returning, so none of this is really a surprise.
TERA PC - General Discussion#13 TYoung1102/06/2019, 03:41 AM
The lack of Talents in the system is the reason I don't care to play much anymore. Can only grind boring low end content so much before you just don't care anymore, can only do the same high end dungeons on one class so many times before the excitement wears out, and can't gear alts for high end content without doing boring low end content.

Having talents be the limiting factor for gearing with the only way to obtain them being boring low end content and low efficiency RNG boxes at the upper end, seems to be a pretty dumb way to keep players over the long haul, and an even worse way to get new players to stick around. I mean think about it, the only way to farm talents now before hitting ilvl 453 is to farm IoD...that's a LOT of boring grinding which does not get much better after you hit 453...
(Yes...there are a few other ways to get talents...the low end dg's drop a pitiful amount and strongboxes are P2P or incredibly inefficient with farming rewards points...)

TLDR: The talent situation sucks, fix it or people will start to say goodbye...it's only going to get worse with no new content for months. What content we are getting is just more grinding of recycled content anyways.
I guess grinding boring low end content is paying off then, now the prices are steadily increasing.
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
Well since the dungeon coins are only active during events it seems only fair that BG ones be only for events too. Not everyone likes to pvp or do bgs so they can't get the coins as often.

If I recall last year before all of the Christmas golden box specials gold talents were double the price even when you could still get them with bg credits. I think part of the reason for the price rise is because all of the cheap talents from all of those events are gone now and the old prices are returning, so none of this is really a surprise.

There is a difference from doing a battleground and a dungeon.

One dungeon can be cleared within twenty minutes (?) and receieve the dungeon coins.

One battleground win can take from 15 minutes up to 45 minutes or even one hour depending on how the queue is doing.

Ray676 wrote: »
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Ray676 wrote: »
Slowly going up in price. Was 50g each before the shorehold patch, now it's 70g each. Slowly going up and up and not going down at any point in the day.

You know it's a problem when Silver Talents are cheaper the Gold ones.

Silly to remove Golden Talents from Bellacarium credits shop. Also even more silly to remove Item XP from Battlegrounds vanguards, we still need Item XP to upgrade jewelry...

Unneeded changes create too many problems.

They also removed the battleground coins while the dungeons coins are still there so yet another loss from the PvP side of the game.
Christin wrote: »
Everything is going up in price, but I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. I haven't even bothered to farm lately, because the prices of everything is getting extreme. I feel sorry for new players as they have no hope. By the time you save up for anything, it has double or tripled in price. Not sure why you guys think talents are somehow supposed to be immune from the price spikes. Just a few days ago there were 15 pages of talents. That would tell me that there are still a lot in game. Now, there are 6 pages, but if you wait until a weekend, amounts for sale will go up again.

It might have some sense considering the EMP based golden talents boxes and even the normal golden talents that can be opened with strongbox keys which are mostly acquired with yet even more EMP.

And i would not mind that overall but the issue is that there is a visible lack of golden talents in the game at the moment and it is so much harder to upgrade/enchanting anything ( i wanted to enchant some alts and make them better but it is incredibly expensive when having to spend 400k up 500k or even more depending on luck to enchant from +5Storm up to +7Storm.. and i would buy the weapon straight forward but i am already at +5storm on alt and i have already invested a lot ).

Because Battle Ground and Dungeon Delver Coins are for events. Everyone knows they are only active during Event weekends.

Everyone except you it seems. Battleground coins were an everyday thing for several months now. only dungeon ones are weekend

Only I pay attention to patch notes unlike You it seems. Everyone with a brain knew that with the Shore update Battleground coins were going to be changed. Go.Ahead.And.Try.to.clap.Back. Pay Attention to what's going in Tera and you won't look like an idiot. Bye.
TERA PC - General Discussion#17 Melyodis02/06/2019, 01:42 PM
Ray676 wrote: »
Slowly going up in price. Was 50g each before the shorehold patch, now it's 70g each. Slowly going up and up and not going down at any point in the day.

You know it's a problem when Silver Talents are cheaper the Gold ones.

Silly to remove Golden Talents from Bellacarium credits shop. Also even more silly to remove Item XP from Battlegrounds vanguards, we still need Item XP to upgrade jewelry...

Unneeded changes create too many problems.

The supply ain't the problem you lazy to go get them i never buy golden talents since the new gear patch and i hardly play well that's me there ways to get the talents and you all lazy to go get them don't complain because you want to buy talents and price high blame the greedy players who go farm just like what you should be doing and come and bust price on you now blame them.
Ray676 wrote: »
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Ray676 wrote: »
Slowly going up in price. Was 50g each before the shorehold patch, now it's 70g each. Slowly going up and up and not going down at any point in the day.

You know it's a problem when Silver Talents are cheaper the Gold ones.

Silly to remove Golden Talents from Bellacarium credits shop. Also even more silly to remove Item XP from Battlegrounds vanguards, we still need Item XP to upgrade jewelry...

Unneeded changes create too many problems.

They also removed the battleground coins while the dungeons coins are still there so yet another loss from the PvP side of the game.
Christin wrote: »
Everything is going up in price, but I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. I haven't even bothered to farm lately, because the prices of everything is getting extreme. I feel sorry for new players as they have no hope. By the time you save up for anything, it has double or tripled in price. Not sure why you guys think talents are somehow supposed to be immune from the price spikes. Just a few days ago there were 15 pages of talents. That would tell me that there are still a lot in game. Now, there are 6 pages, but if you wait until a weekend, amounts for sale will go up again.

It might have some sense considering the EMP based golden talents boxes and even the normal golden talents that can be opened with strongbox keys which are mostly acquired with yet even more EMP.

And i would not mind that overall but the issue is that there is a visible lack of golden talents in the game at the moment and it is so much harder to upgrade/enchanting anything ( i wanted to enchant some alts and make them better but it is incredibly expensive when having to spend 400k up 500k or even more depending on luck to enchant from +5Storm up to +7Storm.. and i would buy the weapon straight forward but i am already at +5storm on alt and i have already invested a lot ).

Because Battle Ground and Dungeon Delver Coins are for events. Everyone knows they are only active during Event weekends.

Everyone except you it seems. Battleground coins were an everyday thing for several months now. only dungeon ones are weekend

Only I pay attention to patch notes unlike You it seems. Everyone with a brain knew that with the Shore update Battleground coins were going to be changed. Go.Ahead.And.Try.to.clap.Back. Pay Attention to what's going in Tera and you won't look like an idiot. Bye.

I don't necessarily always disagree/agree with you or whatever, but your way of typing and responding to people is one of the most obnoxious ways I've ever seen anyone type. Get off your high horse lol
CornishRex wrote: »
Ray676 wrote: »
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Ray676 wrote: »
Slowly going up in price. Was 50g each before the shorehold patch, now it's 70g each. Slowly going up and up and not going down at any point in the day.

You know it's a problem when Silver Talents are cheaper the Gold ones.

Silly to remove Golden Talents from Bellacarium credits shop. Also even more silly to remove Item XP from Battlegrounds vanguards, we still need Item XP to upgrade jewelry...

Unneeded changes create too many problems.

They also removed the battleground coins while the dungeons coins are still there so yet another loss from the PvP side of the game.
Christin wrote: »
Everything is going up in price, but I'm pretty sure they are doing it on purpose. I haven't even bothered to farm lately, because the prices of everything is getting extreme. I feel sorry for new players as they have no hope. By the time you save up for anything, it has double or tripled in price. Not sure why you guys think talents are somehow supposed to be immune from the price spikes. Just a few days ago there were 15 pages of talents. That would tell me that there are still a lot in game. Now, there are 6 pages, but if you wait until a weekend, amounts for sale will go up again.

It might have some sense considering the EMP based golden talents boxes and even the normal golden talents that can be opened with strongbox keys which are mostly acquired with yet even more EMP.

And i would not mind that overall but the issue is that there is a visible lack of golden talents in the game at the moment and it is so much harder to upgrade/enchanting anything ( i wanted to enchant some alts and make them better but it is incredibly expensive when having to spend 400k up 500k or even more depending on luck to enchant from +5Storm up to +7Storm.. and i would buy the weapon straight forward but i am already at +5storm on alt and i have already invested a lot ).

Because Battle Ground and Dungeon Delver Coins are for events. Everyone knows they are only active during Event weekends.

Everyone except you it seems. Battleground coins were an everyday thing for several months now. only dungeon ones are weekend

Only I pay attention to patch notes unlike You it seems. Everyone with a brain knew that with the Shore update Battleground coins were going to be changed. Go.Ahead.And.Try.to.clap.Back. Pay Attention to what's going in Tera and you won't look like an idiot. Bye.

I don't necessarily always disagree/agree with you or whatever, but your way of typing and responding to people is one of the most obnoxious ways I've ever seen anyone type. Get off your high horse lol

Flattered because I feel exactly the same way about you.
Crappy PVP player going to give my input.

I started playing Tera in December 2018 and while I didn't have much problem gearing up at first ( I am in full Stormcry) it is definitely a struggle now. Removing Golden talents from Battleground's was a horrible choice, I understand there is PVP Gear now that no longer uses golden talents but new players needing to gear up will just leave. It's too hard and too complicated to get Talents.

Yes, there is the ability to go to the Island of Dawn and farm bans for a grand total of 7 talents each time, which really isn't that much. It's a huge problem. If I had come into the game now and tried gearing up it simply wouldn't happen.

I really hope EnMasse will implement a way for players to get Talents more so with the level 70 patch on the way.
Crappy PVP player going to give my input.

I started playing Tera in December 2018 and while I didn't have much problem gearing up at first ( I am in full Stormcry) it is definitely a struggle now. Removing Golden talents from Battleground's was a horrible choice, I understand there is PVP Gear now that no longer uses golden talents but new players needing to gear up will just leave. It's too hard and too complicated to get Talents.

Yes, there is the ability to go to the Island of Dawn and farm bans for a grand total of 7 talents each time, which really isn't that much. It's a huge problem. If I had come into the game now and tried gearing up it simply wouldn't happen.

I really hope EnMasse will implement a way for players to get Talents more so with the level 70 patch on the way.

Nope, level 70 patch increase enchanting cost x10 also increased dump of gold for leveling x5. Now you must add more money to your PvP wishes cause you need 2 millions gold per character if want super skill for PvP or rip. things are going to be worse. For golden talents and silvers. Farming
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Crappy PVP player going to give my input.

I started playing Tera in December 2018 and while I didn't have much problem gearing up at first ( I am in full Stormcry) it is definitely a struggle now. Removing Golden talents from Battleground's was a horrible choice, I understand there is PVP Gear now that no longer uses golden talents but new players needing to gear up will just leave. It's too hard and too complicated to get Talents.

Yes, there is the ability to go to the Island of Dawn and farm bans for a grand total of 7 talents each time, which really isn't that much. It's a huge problem. If I had come into the game now and tried gearing up it simply wouldn't happen.

I really hope EnMasse will implement a way for players to get Talents more so with the level 70 patch on the way.

Nope, level 70 patch increase enchanting cost x10 also increased dump of gold for leveling x5. Now you must add more money to your PvP wishes cause you need 2 millions gold per character if want super skill for PvP or rip. things are going to be worse. For golden talents and silvers. Farming

I think you misunderstood, I was hoping they'd improve enchanting rates. Goodness, they said prices would lower for enchanting it seem's it will be the other way around. Not good at all.
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Crappy PVP player going to give my input.

I started playing Tera in December 2018 and while I didn't have much problem gearing up at first ( I am in full Stormcry) it is definitely a struggle now. Removing Golden talents from Battleground's was a horrible choice, I understand there is PVP Gear now that no longer uses golden talents but new players needing to gear up will just leave. It's too hard and too complicated to get Talents.

Yes, there is the ability to go to the Island of Dawn and farm bans for a grand total of 7 talents each time, which really isn't that much. It's a huge problem. If I had come into the game now and tried gearing up it simply wouldn't happen.

I really hope EnMasse will implement a way for players to get Talents more so with the level 70 patch on the way.

Nope, level 70 patch increase enchanting cost x10 also increased dump of gold for leveling x5. Now you must add more money to your PvP wishes cause you need 2 millions gold per character if want super skill for PvP or rip. things are going to be worse. For golden talents and silvers. Farming

I think you misunderstood, I was hoping they'd improve enchanting rates. Goodness, they said prices would lower for enchanting it seem's it will be the other way around. Not good at all.

Yeah enchanting rates going to be increased , cause stormcry going to be new frosmetal, heroic the new stormcry a new gear going to arrive soon to k Tera. This patch is a mid gear revamp. They are preparing us to release full Heroic levels and replace it with a new gear. So may your wish won’t be true cause that new gear will be also hard to enchant.
TERA PC - General Discussion#24 Vy1Vivi02/06/2019, 08:17 PM
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Crappy PVP player going to give my input.

I started playing Tera in December 2018 and while I didn't have much problem gearing up at first ( I am in full Stormcry) it is definitely a struggle now. Removing Golden talents from Battleground's was a horrible choice, I understand there is PVP Gear now that no longer uses golden talents but new players needing to gear up will just leave. It's too hard and too complicated to get Talents.

Yes, there is the ability to go to the Island of Dawn and farm bans for a grand total of 7 talents each time, which really isn't that much. It's a huge problem. If I had come into the game now and tried gearing up it simply wouldn't happen.

I really hope EnMasse will implement a way for players to get Talents more so with the level 70 patch on the way.

Nope, level 70 patch increase enchanting cost x10 also increased dump of gold for leveling x5. Now you must add more money to your PvP wishes cause you need 2 millions gold per character if want super skill for PvP or rip. things are going to be worse. For golden talents and silvers. Farming

I think you misunderstood, I was hoping they'd improve enchanting rates. Goodness, they said prices would lower for enchanting it seem's it will be the other way around. Not good at all.

Yeah enchanting rates going to be increased , cause stormcry going to be new frosmetal, heroic the new stormcry a new gear going to arrive soon to k Tera. This patch is a mid gear revamp. They are preparing us to release full Heroic levels and replace it with a new gear. So may your wish won’t be true cause that new gear will be also hard to enchant.

Where are you getting this information from? Because they had said when announcing level 70 content that there will not be any new gear set; so storm cry/HO will still be BiS. What you are saying makes no sense because right now HO only goes up to +3. It wouldn't make sense for them to implement 'full HO levels' and then 'replace it with new gear.' Especially considering HO is still a very new set of gear for regions.
Easy, with level 70 your damage going to be increased, if they let same gears, there is no reason to waste time gearing, cause with max level you can do same damage with stormcry gear past +5 +7 than person with max heroic.
By releasing full HO+9 and new gear, reducing prices in old gears means more money for them. That’s the only reason cause level 70 going to be hard to reach. Hey are preparing another gear revamp. Hope this time guardian gear be removed forever, that’s my wish, cause is the most divine useless gear in whole Tera history.
Man ignore , Gatokatzen , he keeps saying crap , don't believe everything he says.
TERA PC - General Discussion#27 Richtter02/06/2019, 11:28 PM
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Easy, with level 70 your damage going to be increased, if they let same gears, there is no reason to waste time gearing, cause with max level you can do same damage with stormcry gear past +5 +7 than person with max heroic.
By releasing full HO+9 and new gear, reducing prices in old gears means more money for them. That’s the only reason cause level 70 going to be hard to reach. Hey are preparing another gear revamp. Hope this time guardian gear be removed forever, that’s my wish, cause is the most divine useless gear in whole Tera history.

Here about gear:

6. Gear

New : Equipment Merge System
Added a new system to merge two gears together
Successful merge will apply a portion of the fodder gear’s options to main gear
Main gear and fodder gear list :
Main gear : number of options available
Frostmetal : 1
Stormcry : 2
Heroic Oath : 2
Fodder gear : number of options : obtainability
Worn Frostmetal : 6 : [dungeon|field]
Worn Stormcry : 6 : [dungeon|field]
Worn Heroic Oath : 3 : field boss monster

New : Gear slot

Added 2 slots for Hallow and Relic
The following items can be equiped in the respective slots, and can be obtained through new quest, dungeon, and field
Hallow : Relic : item rank
Seren’s Hallow : Zuras’ Relic : uncommon
Isren’s Hallow : Gidd’s Relic : uncommon
Elinu’s Hallow : Karas’ Relic : rare
Tithus’ Hallow : Dagon’s Relic : rare
Amarun’s Hallow : Ishara’s Relic : legendary

Upgrading

Each item can be upgraded to item tier II to V, and requires item of same tier as enchanting material
Added battleground-specific Hallow and Relic to equalized-gear battlegrounds
Adjusted gear upgrading cost
Decreased cost of Guardian weapon, armor, gloves, boots, and belt
Decreased cost of Guardian-gear tier jewelry
Decreased cost of Twistshard weapon, armor, gloves, and boots


Now please, stop spread bs John Snow because you know nothing.
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Crappy PVP player going to give my input.

I started playing Tera in December 2018 and while I didn't have much problem gearing up at first ( I am in full Stormcry) it is definitely a struggle now. Removing Golden talents from Battleground's was a horrible choice, I understand there is PVP Gear now that no longer uses golden talents but new players needing to gear up will just leave. It's too hard and too complicated to get Talents.

Yes, there is the ability to go to the Island of Dawn and farm bans for a grand total of 7 talents each time, which really isn't that much. It's a huge problem. If I had come into the game now and tried gearing up it simply wouldn't happen.

I really hope EnMasse will implement a way for players to get Talents more so with the level 70 patch on the way.

Nope, level 70 patch increase enchanting cost x10 also increased dump of gold for leveling x5. Now you must add more money to your PvP wishes cause you need 2 millions gold per character if want super skill for PvP or rip. things are going to be worse. For golden talents and silvers. Farming
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Crappy PVP player going to give my input.

I started playing Tera in December 2018 and while I didn't have much problem gearing up at first ( I am in full Stormcry) it is definitely a struggle now. Removing Golden talents from Battleground's was a horrible choice, I understand there is PVP Gear now that no longer uses golden talents but new players needing to gear up will just leave. It's too hard and too complicated to get Talents.

Yes, there is the ability to go to the Island of Dawn and farm bans for a grand total of 7 talents each time, which really isn't that much. It's a huge problem. If I had come into the game now and tried gearing up it simply wouldn't happen.

I really hope EnMasse will implement a way for players to get Talents more so with the level 70 patch on the way.

Nope, level 70 patch increase enchanting cost x10 also increased dump of gold for leveling x5. Now you must add more money to your PvP wishes cause you need 2 millions gold per character if want super skill for PvP or rip. things are going to be worse. For golden talents and silvers. Farming

I think you misunderstood, I was hoping they'd improve enchanting rates. Goodness, they said prices would lower for enchanting it seem's it will be the other way around. Not good at all.

Yeah enchanting rates going to be increased , cause stormcry going to be new frosmetal, heroic the new stormcry a new gear going to arrive soon to k Tera. This patch is a mid gear revamp. They are preparing us to release full Heroic levels and replace it with a new gear. So may your wish won’t be true cause that new gear will be also hard to enchant.

LMFAO the only thing they did with level 70 was DECREASE costs on guardian and twistshard. I've seen you posting complete [filtered] you've pulled out of your [filtered] on so many posts in this forum. If you can't post real information you do everyone a huge disservice by posting at all. To anyone else who reads this, I'd encourage you to to ignore this guy's posts at this point, straight up completely made up fantasy land [filtered] the majority of the time.
TERA PC - General Discussion#29 Lapomko02/07/2019, 12:11 AM
Hes not wrong though when we thought +9 stormcry would be BiS. Oh boy were we wrong when they decide to release HO and even now add +3 to it and golden/silver talent didn't become cheaper :3. So brace yourself for more RNG grindfest.
When a fodder gear is and option, to enchant, means grinding and failure rates going to be increased lol, you answer the question admitting grinding model just going to be more grinding than before .
TERA PC - General Discussion#31 Arnetra02/07/2019, 12:20 AM
Gatokatzen wrote: »
When a fodder gear is and option, to enchant, means grinding and failure rates going to be increased lol, you answer the question admitting grinding model just going to be more grinding than before .

I think you misunderstand the system they added, you get random drops and they can randomly add lines to gear you already have, it doesn't have to do with enchanting costs.
TERA PC - General Discussion#32 Vy1Vivi02/07/2019, 12:23 AM
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Easy, with level 70 your damage going to be increased, if they let same gears, there is no reason to waste time gearing, cause with max level you can do same damage with stormcry gear past +5 +7 than person with max heroic.

lol, what? It doesn't work that way. Yeah your level contributes to your damage output, sure, but only through the gear you are sporting. You're not going to be level 70 in +7 or even +9 stormcry gear doing more damage than someone in full +3 HO LOL. Gear dictates your damage, not level; level is just there so allow you access to certain gear. And its already been established that they're not planning for any new gear set or revamp. If they did that will be a LONG time coming and by then the game will be dead anyway.

And the equipment merge system featuring fodder gear is just that. Merging equipment, not enchanting. The only thing I'd see them doing at this point is increasing the enchants of HO from +3 to higher levels, and tacking on even more excessive costs. That right there is its own grind-fest.
TERA PC - General Discussion#33 drkmosc02/07/2019, 01:28 AM
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Easy, with level 70 your damage going to be increased, if they let same gears, there is no reason to waste time gearing, cause with max level you can do same damage with stormcry gear past +5 +7 than person with max heroic.

lol, what? It doesn't work that way. Yeah your level contributes to your damage output, sure, but only through the gear you are sporting. You're not going to be level 70 in +7 or even +9 stormcry gear doing more damage than someone in full +3 HO LOL. Gear dictates your damage, not level; level is just there so allow you access to certain gear. And its already been established that they're not planning for any new gear set or revamp. If they did that will be a LONG time coming and by then the game will be dead anyway.

And the equipment merge system featuring fodder gear is just that. Merging equipment, not enchanting. The only thing I'd see them doing at this point is increasing the enchants of HO from +3 to higher levels, and tacking on even more excessive costs. That right there is its own grind-fest.

I understand if u're not aware but the level difference over the target dictates many stuff like the dmg done, the dmg you take, the likeness to crit, the likeness to resist crit. It also raises your base hp somewhat.

There's also the fact that for each player lvl over a skill level you gain +3,5% base dmg. so essentially, even ignoring the above being level 70 over 65 gates you a dmg and dps increase of 17,5% on all your skills.
TERA PC - General Discussion#34 Ketoth02/07/2019, 01:31 AM
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Easy, with level 70 your damage going to be increased, if they let same gears, there is no reason to waste time gearing, cause with max level you can do same damage with stormcry gear past +5 +7 than person with max heroic.

lol, what? It doesn't work that way. Yeah your level contributes to your damage output, sure, but only through the gear you are sporting. You're not going to be level 70 in +7 or even +9 stormcry gear doing more damage than someone in full +3 HO LOL. Gear dictates your damage, not level; level is just there so allow you access to certain gear. And its already been established that they're not planning for any new gear set or revamp. If they did that will be a LONG time coming and by then the game will be dead anyway.

And the equipment merge system featuring fodder gear is just that. Merging equipment, not enchanting. The only thing I'd see them doing at this point is increasing the enchants of HO from +3 to higher levels, and tacking on even more excessive costs. That right there is its own grind-fest.

+15% from being 5 levels higher ( 3% per level)
+17,5% from you being 5 higher than the level you learn the skill ( depend on the skill, 3,5% per level)
+4;5% crit chance

when comparing with the current dungeons. i think that is a good chunk of damage increase

Now imagine low levels dugens the 431 and 412 or mid 439 ones the most played ones, If Shore is being monopolized till death for whales.

Imagine level 70 whales queuing and farming these dugens in 2 min or less, then monsters going to be buffed. To avoid abuse, but indirectly Bluehole is attacking people force them to waste resources in leveling or damage going to be zero.
May you ended kicked a lot of in pve. (Lfg Level 70 only, polished skills full.) or don’t dare to queque.

80% of Tera population will be abandoned, Lilith keeps buffed to level 70 , 431 as example . People with frost +0 but Lilith with level 70. Buffs, then your gear going to land zero damage, unless you reach 70 , thing that won’t be easy to get.

No more alts, only focus in the same main character and may other 2 more, rest of characters rip forever. Get bored cause now you need to add polished skills, and billions of xp.

Now add being a new player and being told about this. “Oh I hit 65, but.. now , are you sure that I need to waste such amount of time to leveling and play. Oh dear no thanks.”

Is Tera 2012 in 2019, the leveling that takes ages and make people leave, backs as gear progression, and people still want a classic server, lol.
TERA PC - General Discussion#36 Lapomko02/07/2019, 07:40 AM
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Easy, with level 70 your damage going to be increased, if they let same gears, there is no reason to waste time gearing, cause with max level you can do same damage with stormcry gear past +5 +7 than person with max heroic.

lol, what? It doesn't work that way. Yeah your level contributes to your damage output, sure, but only through the gear you are sporting. You're not going to be level 70 in +7 or even +9 stormcry gear doing more damage than someone in full +3 HO LOL. Gear dictates your damage, not level; level is just there so allow you access to certain gear. And its already been established that they're not planning for any new gear set or revamp. If they did that will be a LONG time coming and by then the game will be dead anyway.

And the equipment merge system featuring fodder gear is just that. Merging equipment, not enchanting. The only thing I'd see them doing at this point is increasing the enchants of HO from +3 to higher levels, and tacking on even more excessive costs. That right there is its own grind-fest.

Sure enjoy +9 HO and new gear soon again.
TERA PC - General Discussion#37 Richtter02/07/2019, 10:31 AM
I don't get why people don't want to do IoD bams(max 30 min) e spam some low tier dgs for easy talents but wants to scream around because of talents price.

Lol, if you don't want to pay the work of someone against time consuming and boredom, go farm yourself your talents.
Richtter wrote: »
I don't get why people don't want to do IoD bams(max 30 min) e spam some low tier dgs for easy talents but wants to scream around because of talents price.

Lol, if you don't want to pay the work of someone against time consuming and boredom, go farm yourself your talents.

Because most people save their vanguards for Dungeons where they get better EP, Gear XP, and gold not to mention people saving VGS For Battlegrounds.
By the way, the lack of talents might be connected with the fact that the golden boxes event kept the supply up and maybe that now we are getting much less Champion Enchanting Chests from PvP since the gear changed ( we probably get 1/10 chests overall compared to before ).

I hope that we will have a new source of Golden Talents that will not be connected with IOD..
TERA PC - General Discussion#40 TYoung1102/07/2019, 04:10 PM
Richtter wrote: »
I don't get why people don't want to do IoD bams(max 30 min) e spam some low tier dgs for easy talents but wants to scream around because of talents price.

Lol, if you don't want to pay the work of someone against time consuming and boredom, go farm yourself your talents.

Even doing 16 IoD on one toon only nets you 112 talents. Each attempt just to upgrade from +9 SC to HO takes around 1k. Even if you waste 9 days of vanguards farming IoD you still won't be able to attempt an enchant because the gold requirements for crafting plates and the raw gold requirement of the upgrade will require days more of farming higher tier vg's.

Add on top of that, the massive amount of item exp for each enchant...

IoD is fine for Guardian, Twist, Frostmetal gear and the first half of Stormcry...but there reaches a point where farming IoD for gear is just stupidity in the massive waste of time and VG's.

Games should be fun and encourage people to play, not force them to make a decision between boring drudgery to progress or actually enjoying their time online.
TERA PC - General Discussion#41 Vy1Vivi02/07/2019, 06:50 PM
drkmosc wrote: »
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
Gatokatzen wrote: »
Easy, with level 70 your damage going to be increased, if they let same gears, there is no reason to waste time gearing, cause with max level you can do same damage with stormcry gear past +5 +7 than person with max heroic.

lol, what? It doesn't work that way. Yeah your level contributes to your damage output, sure, but only through the gear you are sporting. You're not going to be level 70 in +7 or even +9 stormcry gear doing more damage than someone in full +3 HO LOL. Gear dictates your damage, not level; level is just there so allow you access to certain gear. And its already been established that they're not planning for any new gear set or revamp. If they did that will be a LONG time coming and by then the game will be dead anyway.

And the equipment merge system featuring fodder gear is just that. Merging equipment, not enchanting. The only thing I'd see them doing at this point is increasing the enchants of HO from +3 to higher levels, and tacking on even more excessive costs. That right there is its own grind-fest.

I understand if u're not aware but the level difference over the target dictates many stuff like the dmg done, the dmg you take, the likeness to crit, the likeness to resist crit. It also raises your base hp somewhat.

There's also the fact that for each player lvl over a skill level you gain +3,5% base dmg. so essentially, even ignoring the above being level 70 over 65 gates you a dmg and dps increase of 17,5% on all your skills.

My point was that someone in SC +7 or +9 gear at level 70 isn't going to be doing more damage than someone say level 65 in +3 HO. Unless for the new level 70 expansion the damage increments per level gained to 70 are ridiculous; I don't know how its calculated now, but currently it doesn't matter because the level cap is 65 and no one actually does content until they reach the cap. Besides, if you're in full HO+ 3 there is no way in hell you'll be staying at level 65 anyway.
TERA PC - General Discussion#42 Zoknahal02/07/2019, 07:33 PM
Fear Not.

EME is aware of the growing issue of the gold talent shortage, and they delivered as always!

Right now, available for only 2 DOLLARS through the Featured items! Get as many gold and silver talents as you want from the Lustrous Federation Crate! With a chance at already made Plates!

We know EU has this things basically for free, but by paying 2 dollars, you skip the grind! isnt that great?

Go get em now!


(for all of you who didnt got it, i am being sarcastic)
TERA PC - General Discussion#43 Richtter02/08/2019, 12:33 PM
@toofaceddiva and @TYoung11 you still can do it with alts. Actually I have 2 alts for IoD only and I'm farming around 100k/day.

My real issue is by farming diamonds than golden talents.

"Games should be fun and encourage people to play, not force them to make a decision between boring drudgery to progress or actually enjoying their time online."

Korean/Chinese MMOS gives you 2 choices to stay competitive:
1 - Invest your time.
2 - Invest your money.
Casual players enjoy the game by doing differents things other than being TOP dps, get the BiS gear, being rich in game etc.
TERA PC - General Discussion#44 Laemie02/08/2019, 01:47 PM
Richtter wrote: »
@toofaceddiva and @TYoung11 you still can do it with alts. Actually I have 2 alts for IoD only and I'm farming around 100k/day.

My real issue is by farming diamonds than golden talents.

So you dont do Guardian Missions on all your alts? Thats a shame, with 10 chars you would get more than 10 diamonds a day! :D

TERA PC - General Discussion#45 Aluh02/08/2019, 03:07 PM
100k doing iod with 2 characters , ye my [filtered] u do 100k
TERA PC - General Discussion#46 Richtter02/08/2019, 03:28 PM
Laemie wrote: »
Richtter wrote: »
@toofaceddiva and @TYoung11 you still can do it with alts. Actually I have 2 alts for IoD only and I'm farming around 100k/day.

My real issue is by farming diamonds than golden talents.

So you dont do Guardian Missions on all your alts? Thats a shame, with 10 chars you would get more than 10 diamonds a day! :D
Make it 20 chars for 20+ diamonds! Make another 200k in 1 day! * -*

People have the point when they said they didnt want to do mind numbing contents all day everyday for little to no gold talent. I can finish 16 VGs in 20 mins still it bores me out of my mind after 10 mins. I have guided alot of newbies in my Guild (Fresh new to Tera before they reach level 65) and they played way less when they got to the point they needed gold talents and i told them they needed to do IOD and it M U S T be L O W tier, their active time slowly went down and eventually they stopped playing. :D

I'm fine with 3 chars and I still have plenty of time to enjoy RL and work.
I don't do guaridan missions because I value my time and you can get alot more from gathering and broker. Waste around 40 minutes to make 10k isn't an efficient way to make money when you value your time. Farming mats is just like have a work so you "do mind numbing contents all day everyday" and if you are not happy with it, you must work more to get more. If you don't want to spend your time or money to stay competitive, you must stay as casual and if casual isn't enough to you and you don't want to spend money or time, you must ask yourself why you play mmos.

When you know how to manage things, you never run out of resources. You still can gamble in talent strongboxes if you are too hurry.

Lazyness will kill you guys
> @Laemie said:
> Richtter wrote: »
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> @toofaceddiva and @TYoung11 you still can do it with alts. Actually I have 2 alts for IoD only and I'm farming around 100k/day.
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> My real issue is by farming diamonds than golden talents.
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> So you dont do Guardian Missions on all your alts? Thats a shame, with 10 chars you would get more than 10 diamonds a day! :D
> Make it 20 chars for 20+ diamonds! Make another 200k in 1 day! * -*
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> People have the point when they said they didnt want to do mind numbing contents all day everyday for little to no gold talent. I can finish 16 VGs in 20 mins still it bores me out of my mind after 10 mins. I have guided alot of newbies in my Guild (Fresh new to Tera before they reach level 65) and they played way less when they got to the point they needed gold talents and i told them they needed to do IOD and it M U S T be L O W tier, their active time slowly went down and eventually they stopped playing. :D

Lol what a liar, i ve opened more than 700 guardian legion boxes, and never got a diamond. If you farm 40 boxes, you might get 11.300 gold in pure rubbies and shappires, getting 40 boxes is only faster if you have 10 alts in stormcry +7. Or You must be playing 24 hours per day, cause there is no way to get 200k gold per day. Without playing the broker. (Unless you are a whale with gears p2w)

Even if you transform every single gems in to diamonds, crafiting cost tons of gold and your profit will be almost zero. At the end of day.

50k per day is possible but 200k is deluded.
TERA PC - General Discussion#48 Laemie02/08/2019, 04:05 PM
I guess its really hard for some people, its okay youre right and im a liar lets just go with that!
the post got way out of context about the issue which is golden talents and not
how much gold u can make per day
TERA PC - General Discussion#50 Richtter02/08/2019, 08:16 PM
Galadthas wrote: »
the post got way out of context about the issue which is golden talents and not
how much gold u can make per day

Golden talents isn't the issue, the real issue is the lazyness. Anyway some people are hanging themselves because of Bellicarium shop, but again they forget they don't need golden talents for pvp gear. So thats probably what made BHS remove them from bellicarium shop.
> @Richtter said:
>Waste around 40 minutes to make 10k

Guardians should take 20-25 mins on a good dps
smh
Richtter wrote: »
Galadthas wrote: »
the post got way out of context about the issue which is golden talents and not
how much gold u can make per day

Golden talents isn't the issue, the real issue is the lazyness. Anyway some people are hanging themselves because of Bellicarium shop, but again they forget they don't need golden talents for pvp gear. So thats probably what made BHS remove them from bellicarium shop.

laziness on whose side? the developer or the players?
the change in the pvp shop is fair enough but they cut another source of golden talents out, which leaves strongboxes(keys=emp),p2w boxes.iod and dungeons(do they even count? ) and barely anyone runs solo for veteran tokens since the player base is booming(sarcasm btw)

its ok tho u only need them from guardian - oath then u'll be free

if i left out any other source do remind me.
Richtter wrote: »
@toofaceddiva and @TYoung11 you still can do it with alts. Actually I have 2 alts for IoD only and I'm farming around 100k/day.

My real issue is by farming diamonds than golden talents.

"Games should be fun and encourage people to play, not force them to make a decision between boring drudgery to progress or actually enjoying their time online."

Korean/Chinese MMOS gives you 2 choices to stay competitive:
1 - Invest your time.
2 - Invest your money.
Casual players enjoy the game by doing differents things other than being TOP dps, get the BiS gear, being rich in game etc.

I don't have time to level up and gear up alts.. It took me long enough to gear up my main I can't even imagine the gold it'd take to do it again on multiple characters
TERA PC - General Discussion#54 Ray67602/09/2019, 10:39 AM
gold talents are 74g today :) totally not a big issue that needs addressed. haha :)
Tfw it's been 10 months since I started steadily complaining on the forums about golden taeltns and eme has barely done anything since then.
Sheesh
CornishRex wrote: »
Tfw it's been 10 months since I started steadily complaining on the forums about golden taeltns and eme has barely done anything since then.
Sheesh

Oh, they've done something: they brought back the gem and talent crates.

Low on mats? Just buy them, lol! :smiley:
TERA PC - General Discussion#57 Richtter02/09/2019, 09:49 PM
CornishRex wrote: »
> @Richtter said:
>Waste around 40 minutes to make 10k

Guardians should take 20-25 mins on a good dps
smh

On a good geared dps.

@Galadthas on player's side.

@toofaceddiva if you don't have time to gear up alts, isn't the game issue. Anyway, with FM+0 you can do IoD with easy in 30 minutes(with good dps classes) or run low tiers dgs fast.

This is only my point guys. You can stay here complaining to the wind or you can do something else as a work around or leave the game.
Richtter wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
> @Richtter said:
>Waste around 40 minutes to make 10k

Guardians should take 20-25 mins on a good dps
smh

On a good geared dps.

@Galadthas on player's side.

@toofaceddiva if you don't have time to gear up alts, isn't the game issue. Anyway, with FM+0 you can do IoD with easy in 30 minutes(with good dps classes) or run low tiers dgs fast.

This is only my point guys. You can stay here complaining to the wind or you can do something else as a work around or leave the game.

Calling people Lazy when they have a job outside of gaming show's the kind of person you are. *Rolls eyes* Also never once said there was a problem with Tera, you are making assumptions. I simply pointed out how much harder it is to get Talents now vs what it used to be anyone can see that it's an issue.
Richtter wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
> @Richtter said:
>Waste around 40 minutes to make 10k

Guardians should take 20-25 mins on a good dps
smh

On a good geared dps.

@Galadthas on player's side.

@toofaceddiva if you don't have time to gear up alts, isn't the game issue. Anyway, with FM+0 you can do IoD with easy in 30 minutes(with good dps classes) or run low tiers dgs fast.

This is only my point guys. You can stay here complaining to the wind or you can do something else as a work around or leave the game.

@Richtter

when you look at how many people are saying that golden talents/silver talents have an issue versus you saying that the players are lazy,no problems.
it goes to show that there is an actual problem .

like i mentioned before farming iod can only help u for so long before the game gets absolutely boring and stale , and in comes the laziness that u mention because lets be real who in the world wants to farm iod for hours on end and then log out and repeat for one/two fails on enchants.
also gonna mention that farming is okay and that its a part of the game, cant deny that but not to this extent that we have just for advancing a bit.


now imagine if u used all the time farming iod playing the game and enjoying it instead of wasting it all on farming , wouldn't that be a blast.

changes can only help the game and not hurt

anyway atleast you are right about one thing , we are complaining to the wind hoping for a change that wont happen.




Richtter wrote: »
CornishRex wrote: »
> @Richtter said:
>Waste around 40 minutes to make 10k

Guardians should take 20-25 mins on a good dps
smh

On a good geared dps.

@Galadthas on player's side.

@toofaceddiva if you don't have time to gear up alts, isn't the game issue. Anyway, with FM+0 you can do IoD with easy in 30 minutes(with good dps classes) or run low tiers dgs fast.

This is only my point guys. You can stay here complaining to the wind or you can do something else as a work around or leave the game.

much content. what a big brain you have. "FARM IOD FOR THE NEXT 2 MONTHS GUYS !! STOP BEING LAZY GUYS !!" yea OKAY buster. I personally do NOT have this issue right now, but i do know people who just started playing the game not too long ago and already wants to quit because of the OBVIOUS golden talent problem when it comes to anything below 453's... CS was a great way to get em before the patch and while I understand the change (completely makes sense to me because it's pvp for pvp gear), they should've implemented a new way to bring more GT into the game without forcing ppl to go back to doing IOD daily for GTs.. especially when they want to use their vanguard on runs that give more item xp for their gear and mats for their gear.. so sure, have fun running IOD all you want my guy, but I already know people who left because of this OBVIOUS problem. but my bad i guess people are just lazy cause Cant"IOD"hahaLazyRetards
TERA PC - General Discussion#61 Dvsv02/14/2019, 02:16 PM
Hahaha, Tera's community never changes!
It's just like all these proxy dev nerfing/not updating the free skill predictor to FORCE players to pay U$30~60 on paid SP and EME does nothing about ppl abusing the EULA to get some money hahaha!
It's worst gaming community ever, by far!

Now it's the same talk about the legendary golden talent issue that's been a problem on NA for almost a year now!
I remember when double vg rewards was the norm with triple VG events and BIS SC+9 gear was only ~384 talents per try, when EME removed perma double VG what ppl said here? Stop being lazy hahahaha!

Now that we got HO and higher at 1000+ talents per try they nerfed talents farming even further to boost talents crate sales, there's not a single double VG event for almost a month, the only way to farm golden talents in game is low-tier IOD with a horrible slow x1 rate (112 talents per toon per a REALISTIC 40 min cuz time wasted running/switching channels) and what they say?
Stop being lazy hahahah !!!!

Let's be realistic here, the only way to progress in a reasonable pace nowadays on Tera is the p2w way, a new free player will get bored to death and prob quit way before reaching full SC+7 to even get VG rewards for mid-tier 3 star brain dead content cuz that [filtered] 453 iLVL req ;)
I don't get why anyone hasn't attempted to bring up the idea to implement the elleon boxes we have on eu. For 40/100 elleon marks respectively. Tons of talents per day, tons of elleons. Seems like it'd solve the talent issue on NA. (Ignoring mEMEs attempt at selling more p2w boxes of it, wtf guys?)
> @KE5M9M9599 said:
> I don't get why anyone hasn't attempted to bring up the idea to implement the elleon boxes we have on eu.

Bruh I've been attempting and going at it since hecking march of 2018 and eme has been ignoring everyone since. Do you seriously think we never suggested that?
Gear revamp has been in place for almost a year and a half you know, eme is just lazy, greedy, incompetent as per usual.
People have mentioned elleon boxes so many times even a person with a learning disability and a mind of a 2 year old child would understand what they are. But eme is only interested in short time profit and is investing their manpower into the dumbest decisions.

I can't believe I feel slightly offended over someone asking themselves such a dumb question but man everyone here (and a lot of people that quit because of it) have really tried to get through eme with actual great suggestions. The reason why nobody is suggesting elleon boxes anymore is because it has been suggested so many times it became obvious eme simply did not care as they continued to sell talent boxes and restricting an essential mat to bottom tier content.
CornishRex wrote: »
> @KE5M9M9599 said:
> I don't get why anyone hasn't attempted to bring up the idea to implement the elleon boxes we have on eu.

Bruh I've been attempting and going at it since hecking march of 2018 and eme has been ignoring everyone since. Do you seriously think we never suggested that?
Gear revamp has been in place for almost a year and a half you know, eme is just lazy, greedy, incompetent as per usual.
People have mentioned elleon boxes so many times even a person with a learning disability and a mind of a 2 year old child would understand what they are. But eme is only interested in short time profit and is investing their manpower into the dumbest decisions.

I can't believe I feel slightly offended over someone asking themselves such a dumb question but man everyone here (and a lot of people that quit because of it) have really tried to get through eme with actual great suggestions. The reason why nobody is suggesting elleon boxes anymore is because it has been suggested so many times it became obvious eme simply did not care as they continued to sell talent boxes and restricting an essential mat to bottom tier content.

Of course, part of the problem when the whole issue of which material should be boosted came up in the past was that the idea of EME becoming the principal seller of what was effectively a gold source for many players was so alluring that the opportunity for an instant cash grab trumped the idea of actual game balance. This put the economy so heavily into the "everyone can buy anything" to the point that if EME went and then boosted the Gold Talent rates, everyone would be enchanting their gear to SC +9 way earlier than they intended.

If instead they had boosted the Gold Talent rates then when people had enough gold (or could earn enough of it), then I don't think we'd have had as many people quite over lack of enchanting materials.

But what's done is done, and the damage caused by injecting gold first and materials second has pretty much ruined any ability to balance the pace of gearing up.
bump (body is 6 characters too short.)
@KitTeaCup where have the gm's been as of late?
Seems like if they make talent farming more efficient, they won't be able to sell as much federation crates as they'd like. :^)
TERA PC - General Discussion#68 kubitoid02/25/2019, 09:01 AM
hungry, angry, tired. you? (c) npc
It might be funny and ironic with all the complaints ( i did complain as well several times since i needed to spend up to 400k or even 500k depending on luck to reach +7SC on a weapon from +5SC for a single alt ) about the lack of talents and the high costs of enchanting but exactly because of how the whole economy goes right now with the talents then we might have some sort of advantage over the European version because we will be able to get more raw gold when farming/selling talents which will help us much more when trying to polish the new skills that have some pretty high costs ( the players over the european version might have it so much harder when trying to farm/sell golden talents at 15g each to get raw gold for the skills that will need to be polished ).

This whole economy system that we have with federation crates and strongbox keys that can open boxes with talents as examples might not be so bad when we will deal with the skills that will need to be polished.
TERA PC - General Discussion#70 Minilee02/26/2019, 03:57 PM
It might be funny and ironic with all the complaints ( i did complain as well several times since i needed to spend up to 400k or even 500k depending on luck to reach +7SC on a weapon from +5SC for a single alt ) about the lack of talents and the high costs of enchanting but exactly because of how the whole economy goes right now with the talents then we might have some sort of advantage over the European version because we will be able to get more raw gold when farming/selling talents which will help us much more when trying to polish the new skills that have some pretty high costs ( the players over the european version might have it so much harder when trying to farm/sell golden talents at 15g each to get raw gold for the skills that will need to be polished ).

This whole economy system that we have with federation crates and strongbox keys that can open boxes with talents as examples might not be so bad when we will deal with the skills that will need to be polished.

I wouldnt call it an advantage. EU have more to sell for less, NA got less to sell for more.... The problem is enchanting HO... 244 plates ...and even more? Also new accessories requiring 96 plates? with 10% chance to upgrade. Ye expensive golden talents isnt going to become an advantage lol.
TERA PC - General Discussion#71 hellno02/26/2019, 06:38 PM
It might be funny and ironic with all the complaints ( i did complain as well several times since i needed to spend up to 400k or even 500k depending on luck to reach +7SC on a weapon from +5SC for a single alt ) about the lack of talents and the high costs of enchanting but exactly because of how the whole economy goes right now with the talents then we might have some sort of advantage over the European version because we will be able to get more raw gold when farming/selling talents which will help us much more when trying to polish the new skills that have some pretty high costs ( the players over the european version might have it so much harder when trying to farm/sell golden talents at 15g each to get raw gold for the skills that will need to be polished ).

This whole economy system that we have with federation crates and strongbox keys that can open boxes with talents as examples might not be so bad when we will deal with the skills that will need to be polished.

LOL no. EU will not really have a harder time with the new system. About the same amount of gold is circulating EU and NA (maybe more on EU since EU gets double gold for vanguards like 1 weekend every month). Also the extra talents you get from EU's elleons marks are exactly that, EXTRA. You get them from running normal content (ie dungeons) on top of your normal rewards NA gets, its legit just extra free stuff EU is getting.
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