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TERA PC - General Discussion: Leaderboard Cheaters.
Is there a way to prevent cheaters from getting first place and basically not letting anyone to compete for the Mask at Pit of Petrax? I know that i have a decent chance to get 1st but how am i supposed to even try when cheaters take over?

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those times are all legitimate. they're also competing for the mask, or for the title, and if you want either from pit you need to outperform them.
yes please go and buy some $150 USD script to use with your proxy so you can perform like them, its totally your fault.
I do agree that there should be a limit if you once got the mask from pit. I have seen some players who got the mask and are rank 1 in pit, totally an inconvenience for people who actually NEED the mask.
LancerJiva wrote: »
I do agree that there should be a limit if you once got the mask from pit. I have seen some players who got the mask and are rank 1 in pit, totally an inconvenience for people who actually NEED the mask.
the mask isn't the main reward from the leaderboards, it's the prestige title. on top of that, the mask coupon you get from the leaderboard can be banked and given to an alt. if a player has 19 alts that don't have masks and wants to get one for each of them you can see where they have no reason to stop.
The mask can also be sold for like 15k gold, so, why not?
TERA PC - General Discussion#7 voidy10/29/2018, 02:51 AM
There isn't even anything wrong with those times. Actual cheaters are in there getting scores of literally 2 seconds.
TechGuy wrote: »
yes please go and buy some $150 USD script to use with your proxy so you can perform like them, its totally your fault.

150$ would refer to berns scripts, bern doesnt have a priest script besides an auto lockon made by someone else that he sells it for. Also its possible to get around 21 second on priest ethically without any cheats
Fastest time I've ever gotten on priest is 12 seconds. It's perfectly legitimate.
"Wahh.. ppl are better than me. That means they're all cheaters. Wahh"
Fastest time as 12seconds for a priest at Pit of Petrax? And i am crying because there are better ppl than me? Hahah.. Such sadness.

IF any of you actually played priest then you would know that anything under 30sec is extreme for the current Pit of Petrax and on top of that the first place is at almost 20sec ( you also need to know that priest cannot use slaying simply because the heal from Edict of Judgment is too much and priest will go back to 100% with only two rotations as in about 7sec ).

By the way, if you guys protect these players then why not tell me how come that i never see these big shots online when i try to speak or at least inspect them? And how come that i never see them playing the game at all in any circumstances? Like.. i know this priest at Velika that gets 1st at guardians all the time beating any other class and that priest could not get above 30sec when i asked... but these alts that i never see and are most likely undergeared get almost 20sec kills..
TERA PC - General Discussion#12 metagame10/29/2018, 09:35 AM
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
( you also need to know that priest cannot use slaying simply because the heal from Edict of Judgment is again too much and priest will go back to 100% with only two rotations as in about 7sec making the rest of 13sec to be less effective )
on fire effect.
TERA PC - General Discussion#13 Laemie10/29/2018, 12:02 PM
The first Priest is a friend of my Guildie back in Casual Hills, we ran together a few times and she was a good Priest and if my memory serves me right, the person was hardcore-ish themselves, so im not surprised they have HO weapon (maybe even +2 who knows) with all optimal offensive etchings and rolls. You said you have a decent chance to get first but are you decked out in gear and consumables including the On Fire Effect? (From what youre saying you did not have the On Fire effect).

I dont have a decked out Priest, but i do have a Priest and i used to rock in Alliance's Vault ranking with her so i know what a Priest can pull especially now with EoJ.

Also not everyone does both GM + Pit. My Co-GM is also a Priest main and she is decked out in gear as well (Not +2 HO but currently full HO), she's wrecking havoc whenever she does GM as well but she never does Pit because we both think its worthless.

Im not here to tell you to git gud or anything, just wanted to clarify that, that the 1st person is a legit real player and not any random alts and those numbers look alright to me. The one above 1min is too slow to be competitive.
cant get rank 1??? cry in forums...hahahha such a baby...practice ur priest skill and try it over and over till u have the best rng run..dont wait for one of this priest to shove a proof video inside ur mouth..
TERA PC - General Discussion#15 voidy10/29/2018, 12:43 PM
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Fastest time as 12seconds for a priest at Pit of Petrax? And i am crying because there are better ppl than me? Hahah.. Ok.. OK!

But this is a priest that we are talking about and any of you actually played priest then you would know [...]

It's because I mained priest for years that I know it's doable.
What gear are you even using? Because I can guarantee you the people you're competing with are probably in BiS with secondary rolls made out for damage. Do you have that? Or are you mad that you can't get near their times in frostmetal with healing rolls?
Admittingly I haven't done the recent pit. I already got my mask for first place and I haven't been playing lately. But if you're properly rolled, priest just annihilates pit
Learn how to play the class, and trust me you'll be able to do those times. It's all about gear, rolls on gear, crystals, RNG for crits, and your experience. It's not hard. All those scores are legitimate. Just cause you can't get lower than 1min doesn't mean the ones that can get that low are cheating. Actual cheaters get scores less than 3 seconds with frostmetal or something.

That's just messed up to call people out like that when they are legit doing their best, despite if they already have mask or not.

That ranking in the current screenshot is nothing. If your priest is properly rolled and prioritize your important skills correctly, I've seen priests get 10-12 seconds legit. Priests is one of the classes that kill Pit easily. Also you have to be in slaying setup too if you're ever thinking to get a good score and good rng. A lot of people that try for top rank really try hard so calling them out as cheaters, is not good and assuming is not the best thing to do. If someone got like 2-3 seconds, then you know for sure that's not legit.
TERA PC - General Discussion#19 P2W10/29/2018, 03:22 PM
Just put the mask in the cash shop and problem solved. Everyone would be happy. B)

https://store.enmasse.com/tera/item/elitemask/elite-mask
If u going for 1st place that 26s i got is LOW it wasnt a good rng run at all and no theres no cheats just plain luck and slaying+ i do have heroic0 with dps rolls so c: i got 1minute run on my frost 0 priest without dps rolls before so i find it hard to believe that sc/ho priests cant get less with practise *shrug* other server priests have like 20s pit and i doubt they cheating either just good gear+consumables
Laemie wrote: »
The first Priest is a friend of my Guildie back in Casual Hills, we ran together a few times and she was a good Priest and if my memory serves me right, the person was hardcore-ish themselves, so im not surprised if they have HO weapon (maybe even +2 who knows) with all optimal offensive etchings and rolls.
:0 hello! who u? owo

-evce (the priest who loves practise/training/trap runs<3)

TERA PC - General Discussion#21 Laemie10/29/2018, 03:59 PM
Micchansan wrote: »
If u going for 1st place that 26s i got is LOW it wasnt a good rng run at all and no theres no cheats just plain luck and slaying+ i do have heroic0 with dps rolls so c: i got 1minute run on my frost 0 priest without dps rolls before so i find it hard to believe that sc/ho priests cant get less with practise *shrug* other server priests have like 20s pit and i doubt they cheating either just good gear+consumables
Laemie wrote: »
The first Priest is a friend of my Guildie back in Casual Hills, we ran together a few times and she was a good Priest and if my memory serves me right, the person was hardcore-ish themselves, so im not surprised if they have HO weapon (maybe even +2 who knows) with all optimal offensive etchings and rolls.
:0 hello! who u? owo

-evce (the priest who loves practise/training/trap runs<3)

Im Lae, Desire's current GM right meow.

I just remember your name because i saw you once in awhile in the group with Hein, he mentioned you a few times in his convo with other ppl and i just happened to see it. Ops off topic.
Aside: Hearing all this just makes me think of how unbalanced the PvE leaderboards are, past and present. High scores rely far too much on gear and not enough on knowledge of the game itself (which is the major issue I had with the Crusades, but I digress).
TERA PC - General Discussion#23 Laemie10/29/2018, 04:17 PM
THis is the issue with the current gearing system. There is no catch up mechanic, these new players will suffer and the even newer players in the future will suffer even more when HO can be enchanted further while BHS sits there doing nothing meaningful and EME does nothing to combat their daddy's work. Just look at the event we just had, that box you get once per VG per day, it gives 1 talent lol. 1. 1
TERA PC - General Discussion#24 Vy1Vivi10/29/2018, 04:54 PM
I like how all of them are listed as priests. I mained priest in the beginning and they were always notoriously known for having really poor damage, and mystics were known for having better dps. Its nice to know that if specked properly for dps they can do really well.
TERA PC - General Discussion#25 Khernz10/29/2018, 05:26 PM
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
I like how all of them are listed as priests. I mained priest in the beginning and they were always notoriously known for having really poor damage, and mystics were known for having better dps. Its nice to know that if specked properly for dps they can do really well.

You have no clue what this is do you. It's literally filtered for priests only and mystics have done sub 10 seconds in every prior season.
TERA PC - General Discussion#26 Vy1Vivi10/29/2018, 07:03 PM
Khernz wrote: »
Vy1Vivi wrote: »
I like how all of them are listed as priests. I mained priest in the beginning and they were always notoriously known for having really poor damage, and mystics were known for having better dps. Its nice to know that if specked properly for dps they can do really well.

You have no clue what this is do you. It's literally filtered for priests only and mystics have done sub 10 seconds in every prior season.

That still doesn't change the point that I made? I said that it was nice to know that they can do really well if prepared properly and geared really well, so I don't get your animosity.
they are stacking buffs from IoD and then using the proxy tp cheat. Nothing New.
they are stacking buffs from IoD and then using the proxy tp cheat. Nothing New.

IoD buffs disappear once you leave the zoneId of IoD, so that isn't possible, even with proxy
IOD buffs wot =) =) =) Share your nonsensical baseless prejudice moar.
Here's a vid of a priest who cleared it in 13s (yeah, I know it's old but I don't believe it's necessarily outdated)


Unless you're the type who's stubborn about his/her beliefs that no amount of reasoning, clear evidence and instruction will make you change your mind (?). We tried... I guess?
TERA PC - General Discussion#30 Nopi10/29/2018, 09:24 PM
Bah, just be happy you are playing a game where the healers can out dps the dps classes. :)
TERA PC - General Discussion#31 Nahev10/29/2018, 11:27 PM
Nopi wrote: »
Bah, just be happy you are playing a game where the healers can out dps the dps classes. :)

Yes, but only for few seconds each 1 min 30 secs approx, only useful for short fights.
When ppl can't understand how DPS works in short time frames. smh
TERA PC - General Discussion#33 Jeynean10/30/2018, 01:56 AM
I came here out of sheer boredom. Yes, I rank second at the moment but that doesn't make me a cheater. I haven't tried to legitimately beat the higher ranks at all since the season where the servers merged. This is because I've got real life stuff to deal with and I hardly log these days because I can't get a party to play with. So Tera isn't the same for me anymore and I am playing extremely casually.

That being said, it's absolutely possible to get below 30secs in the NEW version of pit as a priest. IMHO, 12 secs in the NEW version 'may' be a bit iffy for a priest and you could probably question the legitimacy of this.

I speak based on my own efforts and experimentation; having mained priest for 3 yrs. Honestly, there is no point in crying about your pit time. It's more useful to try figure out how we get the times we do.

Here are 'some' helpful and relatively simple questions to ask yourself - no, I will not spoon feed you... because where is the fun in that?:

1) What's your ilvl for all gear?
I have +9 SC for all gear and entropy level jewelleries if you were curious. (No pleasure in getting heroic, sadly..)

2) Are your rolls/stats optimised for pit?
I have a set optimised specifically for pit; yaknow like shift+Right on your gear? I think it's shift+Right lol... Can't blame me for forgetting!

3) What brooch do you have?

4) Got etchings?

5) What crystals are you using? Better be some good dyads with awesome rolls.

6) Do you have any dragons?

7) Are you using the best consumables available?

8) Are you using an optimal rotation for pit?

9) Are passive skills being activated at the right time? These are based on rng!!!

10) External factors such as how good your ping is, how good your pc is, are your parents streaming tv shows (lol), is it raining and are you on lan cable or wifi?


If you can't confidently assess and scrutinise your own situation based on the above and you don't even try to better understand the potential factors causing your high runtime, try again and again and again before complaining. Nothing is meant to be easy and don't give up trying to improve. The score you want to beat is your own.


Kthx, I love Scardie <3
TERA PC - General Discussion#34 kubitoid10/30/2018, 05:16 AM
P2W wrote: »
Just put the mask in the cash shop and problem solved. Everyone would be happy. B)
and make it tradeable B) to spread happiness that is
Jeynean wrote: »
I came here out of sheer boredom. Yes, I rank second at the moment but that doesn't make me a cheater. I haven't tried to legitimately beat the higher ranks at all since the season where the servers merged. This is because I've got real life stuff to deal with and I hardly log these days because I can't get a party to play with. So Tera isn't the same for me anymore and I am playing extremely casually.

That being said, it's absolutely possible to get below 30secs in the NEW version of pit as a priest. IMHO, 12 secs in the NEW version 'may' be a bit iffy for a priest and you could probably question the legitimacy of this.

I speak based on my own efforts and experimentation; having mained priest for 3 yrs. Honestly, there is no point in crying about your pit time. It's more useful to try figure out how we get the times we do.

Here are 'some' helpful and relatively simple questions to ask yourself - no, I will not spoon feed you... because where is the fun in that?:

1) What's your ilvl for all gear?
I have +9 SC for all gear and entropy level jewelleries if you were curious. (No pleasure in getting heroic, sadly..)

2) Are your rolls/stats optimised for pit?
I have a set optimised specifically for pit; yaknow like shift+Right on your gear? I think it's shift+Right lol... Can't blame me for forgetting!

3) What brooch do you have?

4) Got etchings?

5) What crystals are you using? Better be some good dyads with awesome stats.

6) Do you have any dragons?

7) Are you using the best consumables available?

8) Are you using an optimal rotation for pit?

9) Are passive skills being activated at the right time? These are based on rng!!!

10) External factors such as how good your ping is, how good your pc is, are your parents streaming tv shows (lol), is it raining and are you on lan cable or wifi?


If you can't confidently assess and scrutinise your own situation based on the above and you don't even try to better understand the potential factors causing your high runtime, try again and again and again before complaining. Nothing is meant to be easy and don't give up trying to improve. The score you want to beat is your own.


Kthx, I love Scardie <3

Your whole post does not really help with anything since you are only trying to make a fool out of myself pointing the basic stuff instead of actually being relevant and trying to guide the ignorant me when it comes about a score run at this dungeon. Anyway, i have talked with the priest that keeps getting first at guardians all the time and that priest actually took the time to point the small but important things that can make the difference which it seems that you managed to forget.

1) The gear plays quite the important role when doing a score run for pit of petrax and especially for priest since +8SC Chest/Gloves/Boots adds +3% damage while the weapon itself adds more damage from +7 up to +9 and whoever tries so hard for the first place most likely has another mask ( which can work with the last line from the +9 weapon to add 4% cooldown more or less ) and at least one flying mount with 2.0 crit power bonus if not two mounts that can work out very well one after another depending when the procs happen plus a quatrefoil/marrow brooch which again can add even more damage compared to a normal brooch when doing a score run. Also, it is important to actually make a gear setup with rolls especially for this dungeon because for example the weapon has this roll where you do more damage to the monster that has you first on the aggro list and at the same time it also helps to have dps etchings on accessories. So, a priest that does not meet all these requirements will most likely fail to get the first place.

2) There are skills like the Guardian Sanctuary from priest that gives a very high chance to resist to stun which is not 100% but it is very high and it might help with the score runs since it can resist the first stun from the boss but it is all based on RNG ( not as important as the gear though ).

3) The connection helps this much because not only that a single spike can ruin the whole run but a low and stable ping overall can definitely help with a score run when doing a rotation with burst damage for a limited time.

4) The boss behaviour can make a difference because it can do the stun right away or it can jump then do other mechanics and be quite silly either helping with the run or ruining it entirely.

5) There are certain out of ordinary consumables that can give a boost for a short time such as Lein's Dark Root Beer/etc and might help with a score run where burst is needed.



Anyway, i think that you have nothing impressing to show considering that your record is pretty much normal for your setup and you should also notice that my disbelief was pointed at the 23sec record because it seemed out of the ordinary though i did learn eventually that a certain setup can make it happen and has nothing to do with cheating.
TERA PC - General Discussion#36 voidy10/30/2018, 03:23 PM
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
Jeynean wrote: »
I came here out of sheer boredom. Yes, I rank second at the moment but that doesn't make me a cheater. I haven't tried to legitimately beat the higher ranks at all since the season where the servers merged. This is because I've got real life stuff to deal with and I hardly log these days because I can't get a party to play with. So Tera isn't the same for me anymore and I am playing extremely casually.

That being said, it's absolutely possible to get below 30secs in the NEW version of pit as a priest. IMHO, 12 secs in the NEW version 'may' be a bit iffy for a priest and you could probably question the legitimacy of this.

I speak based on my own efforts and experimentation; having mained priest for 3 yrs. Honestly, there is no point in crying about your pit time. It's more useful to try figure out how we get the times we do.

Here are 'some' helpful and relatively simple questions to ask yourself - no, I will not spoon feed you... because where is the fun in that?:

1) What's your ilvl for all gear?
I have +9 SC for all gear and entropy level jewelleries if you were curious. (No pleasure in getting heroic, sadly..)

2) Are your rolls/stats optimised for pit?
I have a set optimised specifically for pit; yaknow like shift+Right on your gear? I think it's shift+Right lol... Can't blame me for forgetting!

3) What brooch do you have?

4) Got etchings?

5) What crystals are you using? Better be some good dyads with awesome stats.

6) Do you have any dragons?

7) Are you using the best consumables available?

8) Are you using an optimal rotation for pit?

9) Are passive skills being activated at the right time? These are based on rng!!!

10) External factors such as how good your ping is, how good your pc is, are your parents streaming tv shows (lol), is it raining and are you on lan cable or wifi?


If you can't confidently assess and scrutinise your own situation based on the above and you don't even try to better understand the potential factors causing your high runtime, try again and again and again before complaining. Nothing is meant to be easy and don't give up trying to improve. The score you want to beat is your own.


Kthx, I love Scardie <3

Your whole post does not really help with anything since you are only trying to make a fool out of myself pointing the basic stuff instead of actually being relevant and trying to guide the ignorant me when it comes about a score run at this dungeon. Anyway, i have talked with the priest that keeps getting first at guardians all the time and that priest actually took the time to point the small but important things that can make the difference which it seems that you managed to forget to outline properly and talk about how important they actually are instead of talking about crystals/consumables or even streaming tv shows ( i wonder how you left out the pizza deliveries and alien abductions ).

So..


1) The gear plays quite the important role when doing a score run for pit of petrax and especially for priest since +8SC Chest/Gloves/Boots adds +3% damage while the weapon itself adds more damage from +7 up to +9 and whoever tries so hard for the first place most likely has another mask ( which can work with the last line from the +9 weapon to add 4% cooldown more or less ) and at least one flying mount with 2.0 crit power bonus if not two mounts that can work out very well one after another depending when the procs happen plus a quatrefoil/marrow brooch which again can add even more damage compared to a normal brooch when doing a score run. Also, it is important to actually make a gear setup with rolls especially for this dungeon because for example the weapon has this roll where you do more damage to the monster that has you first on the aggro list and at the same time it also helps to have dps etchings on accessories. So, a priest that does not meet all these requirements will most likely fail to get the first place.

2) There are skills like the Guardian Sanctuary from priest that gives a very high chance to resist to stun which is not 100% but it is very high and it might help with the score runs since it can resist the first stun from the boss but it is all based on RNG ( not as important as the gear though ).

3) The connection helps this much because not only that a single spike can ruin the whole run but a low and stable ping overall can definitely help with a score run when doing a rotation with burst damage for a limited time.

4) The boss behaviour can make a difference because it can do the stun right away or it can jump then do other mechanics and be quite silly either helping with the run or ruining it entirely.

5) There are certain out of ordinary consumables that can give a boost for a short time such as Lein's Dark Root Beer/etc and might help with a score run where burst is needed.



Anyway, i think that you have nothing impressing to show considering that your record as in 34sec is pretty much normal for your setup and you should also notice that my disbelief was pointed at the 23sec record because it seemed out of the ordinary though i did learn eventually that a certain setup can make it happen and has nothing to do with cheating.


p.s. the 13sec kill posted with the video in this thread is definitely amazing

You are aware this is a competitive environment, right? Nobody is entitled to help you with anything here and there's zero incentive for it. You're lucky the person in first (and even the person you replied to, whose post actually contained helpful information that you just ignored for some reason) was nice enough to tell you anything; there's NO reason for people to give any advice at all since you're just helping people who're trying to jack your spot and take your prize.

Holy crap this thread makes me mad. You're antagonizing this person for not helping you potentially beat their score? [filtered] off mate.
There was so much cheating until the 16th and i have seen so many 7sec kills or less at pit of petrax that i became paranoid about it but i was proven wrong since it seems that it is actually possible to get a 23sec or even 13sec clear on a legit priest though it requires so many things that it is best to look for another source to get a mask with more cooldown reduction ( I was naive to believe that i have a decent chance to get first rank at pit of petrax without proper preparation ).

Also, i am going to remove the screenshot and rename the thread if possible.

I am sorry and i was wrong.
TERA PC - General Discussion#38 Nopi10/30/2018, 08:26 PM
HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
I am sorry and i was wrong.

Now I do hope those whom this apology goes to don't get into fire and fury mode (looking at one or more posters up there), and this thread can be moved on from and left in the past. Let this also be a lesson for others to check before firing their ammo at someone or something.

Misunderstandings are the stupidest reasons to start wars, after all. Don't fall for it, folks!
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