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TERA PC - General Discussion: Please can we have the old UI back
i had no extra spaces to speak of before maintenance, and now I seem to be missing spaces to put skills. My UI is messed up, skills unbound. If people didnt need the extra bar, they could hide it. I need it
You can still have the extra bar, just press the small "+" button you see at the bottom of both ends of the default keybind bars.
I myself personally hate that they took out the 'c' and 'tab' keys; its an extreme inconvenience.
TERA PC - General Discussion#3 Onoes10/16/2018, 07:22 PM
I've been using the new UI on EU and there needs to be better customization. This week EU patched in some improvements allowing to move items that you couldn't previously. Simple controls such as being able to extend the extra hotkey bar to a full row would be appreciated. Loss of the C key is manageable with a PC but not so for controller users.
Ya. Controller user here. No 'c' is gonna mess me up. Is there a way to recreate the 'c' skill bind to have it connected with my right trigger?
Anyone else got some big FPS drops with this new UI?
I was running 80 fps more or less all the time with max preset and all, now its maybe half of that.
Should improve fps apparently, sooo...
The new UI is garbage. Intolerable. Seriously.

Was easy before to use skills both normal and function keys with no trouble. NOW if you have scores of characters you have to adjust them ALL and the skills are crowded both on the keyboard and on the screen. It's awful. The hotkey bar NEEDS to be a FULL row and that's mandatory. Anything short of that is game breaking bad. Even what would be the function keys needs to allow for at LEAST 6 skills up top. and we do NOT need to have skills near the directional keys. It just muddles things up on a fast game.
Anyone else got some big FPS drops with this new UI?
I was running 80 fps more or less all the time with max preset and all, now its maybe half of that.
I'm seeing far less client FPS lag (this is with everything max like before). I just ran several Guardian Legion flight missions where I normally got these really annoying client FPS drops especially when there are a lot of others doing them (one of them, I joined late and started from around twenty something which normally caused me those 0 FPS "freezes"with the old UI). It was surprisingly smooth (so I'm a happy camper there).

With that said though, I'm not too fond of some of the decisions made with the UI design including the much smaller elements (increasing the UI scaling helps only a bit because some elements get too large compared to the ones that you want to increase on their own) which for folks like me who already have bad eyesight, is just going to cause more eyestrain. Also don't like that the extra shortcuts cannot be set to vertical (what I used before since I had them to the left side of the screen). The quest log can also be less legible depending on what is in the background.

With that said though, I'm not too fond of some of the decisions made with the UI design including the much smaller elements (increasing the UI scaling helps only a bit because some elements get too large compared to the ones that you want to increase on their own) which for folks like me who already have bad eyesight, is just going to cause more eyestrain. Also don't like that the extra shortcuts cannot be set to vertical (what I used before since I had them to the left side of the screen). The quest log can also be less legible depending on what is in the background.

You can increase or decrease the size of most of the stuff individually. that's right under the ui scaling option.
TERA PC - General Discussion#10 Nahev10/16/2018, 08:42 PM
Anyone else got some big FPS drops with this new UI?
I was running 80 fps more or less all the time with max preset and all, now its maybe half of that.

With the new UI I have lots more FPS...
feminzii wrote: »

With that said though, I'm not too fond of some of the decisions made with the UI design including the much smaller elements (increasing the UI scaling helps only a bit because some elements get too large compared to the ones that you want to increase on their own) which for folks like me who already have bad eyesight, is just going to cause more eyestrain. Also don't like that the extra shortcuts cannot be set to vertical (what I used before since I had them to the left side of the screen). The quest log can also be less legible depending on what is in the background.

You can increase or decrease the size of most of the stuff individually. that's right under the ui scaling option.
See what I mean by my already having bad eyesight; I probably never saw that in the old options before either xD

And that made a world of difference for my eyes as far as the stuff I needed to adjust. Thanks much!
TERA PC - General Discussion#12 feminzii10/16/2018, 09:18 PM
feminzii wrote: »

With that said though, I'm not too fond of some of the decisions made with the UI design including the much smaller elements (increasing the UI scaling helps only a bit because some elements get too large compared to the ones that you want to increase on their own) which for folks like me who already have bad eyesight, is just going to cause more eyestrain. Also don't like that the extra shortcuts cannot be set to vertical (what I used before since I had them to the left side of the screen). The quest log can also be less legible depending on what is in the background.

You can increase or decrease the size of most of the stuff individually. that's right under the ui scaling option.
See what I mean by my already having bad eyesight; I probably never saw that in the old options before either xD

And that made a world of difference for my eyes as far as the stuff I needed to adjust. Thanks much!

No problem, and my eyesight is completely fine and it took me a while before I realized that was a thing :p
No one listened when i talked about the new ui .. now this ?
TERA PC - General Discussion#14 ItzMirai10/16/2018, 09:38 PM
No one listened when i talked about the new ui .. now this ?

its the usual spam form people whose news go completly above their heads... This UI has been out in Ktera for ages.. has been in EU already, there's people talking about it everywhere and we will be getting a lot more of these topics here because people cant seem to read or research... smh
TERA PC - General Discussion#15 Cezzare10/16/2018, 09:44 PM
Well, it's confusing at first, the layout could've been planned better indeed, it's not very intuitive. Other than that, it feels more responsive than the old one, the one thing I really don't like is the new look of the HP/MP bars, its size is not very confortable, other than than I actually have better fps now, but as always, Tera's performance is very inconsistent even across machines with similar or identhical setups.
plz old UI back
Where is the pet menu on new UI?
The stream I watched, they said that our bindings were not going to be effected, but they are.
TERA PC - General Discussion#19 Dokibun10/16/2018, 11:49 PM
RLXMEJN34R wrote: »
The stream I watched, they said that our bindings were not going to be effected, but they are.

Can you honestly expect the CM to know what she's talking about?
actually my bindings stayed the same except for the missing c.
New Ui is terrible specially for warriors and healers you can’t determine when a person need heal or ress cause the exa mini small numbers ant size
TERA PC - General Discussion#22 vkobe10/17/2018, 02:00 AM
back 2014 UI B)
@Gatokatzen said:
New Ui is terrible specially for warriors and healers you can’t determine when a person need heal or ress cause the exa mini small numbers ant size


Lmao I’m scared to log on, I was already struggling visually with the previous one
@Gatokatzen said:
New Ui is terrible specially for warriors and healers you can’t determine when a person need heal or ress cause the exa mini small numbers ant size


Lmao I’m scared to log on, I was already struggling visually with the previous one

Wait also for party tab xd almost dissapear . You need to add manually.
Where funny seeing a lot of people writing in global chat or say chat.
Cause party and raid tab were removed. As default.

TERA PC - General Discussion#25 Ourlord10/17/2018, 05:05 AM
Im missing the left bar too... i need that sht ASP..
feminzii wrote: »

With that said though, I'm not too fond of some of the decisions made with the UI design including the much smaller elements (increasing the UI scaling helps only a bit because some elements get too large compared to the ones that you want to increase on their own) which for folks like me who already have bad eyesight, is just going to cause more eyestrain. Also don't like that the extra shortcuts cannot be set to vertical (what I used before since I had them to the left side of the screen). The quest log can also be less legible depending on what is in the background.

You can increase or decrease the size of most of the stuff individually. that's right under the ui scaling option.

For readability, I found scaling to 125 generally then shrinking individual elements and enlarging the font size of each tab of chat worked--and only had to be done once for all characters. Scale larger than 125% and I couldn't see the Guardian mission lines below the map and the broker wouldn't display.

They changed my resolution tho which means story windows have small print.
TERA PC - General Discussion#27 Ellexem10/17/2018, 06:55 AM
JHY5HJTDL4 wrote: »
Where is the pet menu on new UI?

As far as I have been able to find, It seems you need to click on the actual pet standing at your side now. Which is going to be a royal pain in the backside around any crowds. To say nothing about how it's now more annoying to see when you need to feed them.
Ourlord wrote: »
Im missing the left bar too... i need that sht ASP..

Left and Right bar are enabled individually. There is a small + button on the left and right side of the main bar, which will toggle the respective extra bar individually.


The Elite bar, for those who need to, can be toggled on and off with the long P button on the right side of the main bar. If you're having trouble clicking on things on the Elite bar, then the top left quadrant of each icon seems to work best in my experience.
TERA PC - General Discussion#28 kubitoid10/17/2018, 09:18 AM
new ui looks minimalistic and such ye its cool but misses C which means you loose 1 key from bar when rearrange C back. not gamebreaking tho. and still lags especially in flying missions when those fugly halfscreen sized messages appear :s :s :s
TERA PC - General Discussion#29 Rida10/17/2018, 09:49 AM
Is there a way to move the map? or is it stuck where it's at now :c?
Rida wrote: »
Is there a way to move the map? or is it stuck where it's at now :c?

Click and drag from top left corner
TERA PC - General Discussion#31 ItzMirai10/17/2018, 10:06 AM
> @KXRC9JMW74 said:
> Rida wrote: »
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> Click and drag from top left corner

If that doesnt work because you had it locked before the update, try this (taken from EU but seems to work)

Go to Options -> UI Settings
Click "Reset all" (!!!DONT CLICK APPLY OR OK!!!)
Drag Minimap where you want it
Close options window without clicking ok or apply
can you even lock the skillbar now ? this new Ui is trash. the gap in the middle is for show and sacrifices game efficiency
TERA PC - General Discussion#33 Rida10/17/2018, 04:08 PM
Thank you @ItzMirai that worked for me c:
TERA PC - General Discussion#34 Melyodis10/17/2018, 06:32 PM
why ask for something you know 1000000% will never be reverted?
Just logged in post update. Searched and read here. Middle mouse button (e.g., Main 3) binding is gone and there appears to be no way to re-bind it. WTF?

New UI indicates we have KTera talent system. Do we?
TERA PC - General Discussion#36 Ellexem10/18/2018, 01:44 AM
Just logged in post update. Searched and read here. Middle mouse button (e.g., Main 3) binding is gone and there appears to be no way to re-bind it. WTF?

Main 3 as a slot is gone, so, yes, that means there is one less slot to put a skill into. On a keyboard, you can assign the mouse button to another slot at your convenience. Please be aware that on a flying mount the Descend key will map to the default slot "7" (Lower 7 on the Shortcuts list).

On a controller things seem to be a bit more complicated.
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/29502/my-main-3-skillbox
New UI indicates we have KTera talent system. Do we?

Not yet, that is still in the future.
Ellexem wrote: »
Just logged in post update. Searched and read here. Middle mouse button (e.g., Main 3) binding is gone and there appears to be no way to re-bind it. WTF?

Main 3 as a slot is gone, so, yes, that means there is one less slot to put a skill into. On a keyboard, you can assign the mouse button to another slot at your convenience. Please be aware that on a flying mount the Descend key will map to the default slot "7" (Lower 7 on the Shortcuts list).

On a controller things seem to be a bit more complicated.
https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/29502/my-main-3-skillbox
New UI indicates we have KTera talent system. Do we?

Not yet, that is still in the future.

Thanks. How is the inability to map the middle mouse button (without additional third party software) to a skill advantageous to anyone? This seems like a regression to me.

I haven't even tried the flying mounts.

As a paying elite member I expect better. Of course, I don't expect better. This is inexcusable for them effectively dropping support for a middle mouse button without having to resort to third party software solutions.
TERA PC - General Discussion#38 Ellexem10/18/2018, 02:19 AM
I see no intuitive way to bind my middle mouse button back to the skill it was on any of my characters. In fact, we should not be having to rebind anything.

Options (O by default)
Shortcuts
Find the action you wish to remap.
Click into one of the two lines. (You can set two different keybinds per actions, if you so desire. No keybind can map to more than one action though.)
Press the new keybind you wish it to have. (You can add modifier keys to things, ie Shift+Mouse 3, Shift+Alt+C, ...)
Press enter to lock keybind in for that shortcut. (It will tell you if you had it bound to something else. Until you press enter, it will keep changing the keybind to your new inputs. You can cancel by pressing ESC.)
Press Apply to save all of your changes and have them reflected on your skill trays. (Closing the window without doing so will void any changes made since the last saving of the keybinds.)

I was able to bind Mouse 3 to any action of my choice with this approach, no need for any third-party software.

Not going to argue about how this should be unnecessary, I'm still in the process of getting all of my characters sorted out due to the mess they made. It's not conducive to having fun. I'm really starting to wish that there was a "Copy Keybinds" functionality so I could just fix one as a template and then apply that to all and then just tweak anything needed to be customized for the class in question, instead of needing to fix it completely everywhere.
Ellexem wrote: »
I see no intuitive way to bind my middle mouse button back to the skill it was on any of my characters. In fact, we should not be having to rebind anything.

Options (O by default)
Shortcuts
Find the action you wish to remap.
Click into one of the two lines. (You can set two different keybinds per actions, if you so desire. No keybind can map to more than one action though.)
Press the new keybind you wish it to have. (You can add modifier keys to things, ie Shift+Mouse 3, Shift+Alt+C, ...)
Press enter to lock keybind in for that shortcut. (It will tell you if you had it bound to something else. Until you press enter, it will keep changing the keybind to your new inputs. You can cancel by pressing ESC.)
Press Apply to save all of your changes and have them reflected on your skill trays. (Closing the window without doing so will void any changes made since the last saving of the keybinds.)

I was able to bind Mouse 3 to any action of my choice with this approach, no need for any third-party software.

Not going to argue about how this should be unnecessary, I'm still in the process of getting all of my characters sorted out due to the mess they made. It's not conducive to having fun. I'm really starting to wish that there was a "Copy Keybinds" functionality so I could just fix one as a template and then apply that to all and then just tweak anything needed to be customized for the class in question, instead of needing to fix it completely everywhere.

Much appreciated! I did manage to figure out how to get Mouse 3 bound to the action of my choice via the "Left shortcuts"; would be the same for "Right shortcuts" as well.

I agree on the template idea.

Again, many thanks.

And overall, I do like the new UI.
TERA PC - General Discussion#40 Mewtube10/18/2018, 05:18 AM
Party / Raid Notice is now moved to the lower part of the screen, make it much less noticeable. Is there any way to customize it and let me move it back to the original center top position? I'm ok with the new UI, just the Notice position is so hard to get used to. It clusters with my combat panels. I find it hard to work around that : (
TERA PC - General Discussion#41 Ourlord10/18/2018, 03:44 PM
Ellexem wrote: »
JHY5HJTDL4 wrote: »
Where is the pet menu on new UI?

As far as I have been able to find, It seems you need to click on the actual pet standing at your side now. Which is going to be a royal pain in the backside around any crowds. To say nothing about how it's now more annoying to see when you need to feed them.
Ourlord wrote: »
Im missing the left bar too... i need that sht ASP..

Left and Right bar are enabled individually. There is a small + button on the left and right side of the main bar, which will toggle the respective extra bar individually.


The Elite bar, for those who need to, can be toggled on and off with the long P button on the right side of the main bar. If you're having trouble clicking on things on the Elite bar, then the top left quadrant of each icon seems to work best in my experience.

ik there's a d + botton... I clicked that sht and nothing happends, im not a new player btw.
TERA PC - General Discussion#42 Kacky10/18/2018, 06:48 PM
Ellexem wrote: »
Just logged in post update. Searched and read here. Middle mouse button (e.g., Main 3) binding is gone and there appears to be no way to re-bind it. WTF?

Main 3 as a slot is gone, so, yes, that means there is one less slot to put a skill into. On a keyboard, you can assign the mouse button to another slot at your convenience. Please be aware that on a flying mount the Descend key will map to the default slot "7" (Lower 7 on the Shortcuts list).

Main 3 was incredibly useful to me. I bound that to one of the buttons on the side of my mouse, near my thumb. I utilized the s*** out of that Main 3. And now it's gone because [ insert excuse here ].
Kacky wrote: »
Ellexem wrote: »
Just logged in post update. Searched and read here. Middle mouse button (e.g., Main 3) binding is gone and there appears to be no way to re-bind it. WTF?

Main 3 as a slot is gone, so, yes, that means there is one less slot to put a skill into. On a keyboard, you can assign the mouse button to another slot at your convenience. Please be aware that on a flying mount the Descend key will map to the default slot "7" (Lower 7 on the Shortcuts list).

Main 3 was incredibly useful to me. I bound that to one of the buttons on the side of my mouse, near my thumb. I utilized the s*** out of that Main 3. And now it's gone because [ insert excuse here ].

A little confused about the problem here. I am currently using mouse 3, I just bound it to one of the shortcut tray slots using the directions mentioned before.

I also have shift-mouse 3 and control-mouse 3, all in my regular shortcut trays. Something I never thought to use before. The only thing that really changed was where the cooldown is displayed. Is that the problem?
Catservant wrote: »
Kacky wrote: »
Ellexem wrote: »
Just logged in post update. Searched and read here. Middle mouse button (e.g., Main 3) binding is gone and there appears to be no way to re-bind it. WTF?

Main 3 as a slot is gone, so, yes, that means there is one less slot to put a skill into. On a keyboard, you can assign the mouse button to another slot at your convenience. Please be aware that on a flying mount the Descend key will map to the default slot "7" (Lower 7 on the Shortcuts list).

Main 3 was incredibly useful to me. I bound that to one of the buttons on the side of my mouse, near my thumb. I utilized the s*** out of that Main 3. And now it's gone because [ insert excuse here ].

A little confused about the problem here. I am currently using mouse 3, I just bound it to one of the shortcut tray slots using the directions mentioned before.

I also have shift-mouse 3 and control-mouse 3, all in my regular shortcut trays. Something I never thought to use before. The only thing that really changed was where the cooldown is displayed. Is that the problem?

You can drag the cooldown icon string to where you want it. Cast a long cooldown and drag away.
TERA PC - General Discussion#45 Nry_Chan10/18/2018, 09:20 PM
So, a fairly old Tera player here,

I've been semi on/off lately because nothing much being added to Tera, same world, same content, nothing much interesting etc etc...

But I have to ask...
KitTeaCup wrote:
We’ve streamlined the game’s UI to be faster and more intuitive.

In what way?.... It looks objectively worse and more clunky compared to the old UI....
Nothing of value was added, hell, value was taken away by this change...

I'm not complaining because its "new" I'm complaining because its actually a bad change that never needed to happen in the first place....

To me, this change seems in a desperate attempt to look more like other MMO's yet fails in the UX department because it doesn't really work at all...
Why is there a big rectangle? what purpose does it server?...

Hell, put it at the top of the screen and it'll look like you're playing street fighter...

I mean, really... Was any of this needed?.... Or is this all in an effort to look more like other mmo's without any regards as to why a certain ui style works for them?...

Hell, its even bigger than the old health and mana bar, and for what?... Honestly I'm wondering who thought this looked good...
Let's go with: synchronicity with ktera
TERA PC - General Discussion#47 ItzMirai10/18/2018, 10:00 PM
Rida wrote: »
Thank you @ItzMirai that worked for me c:

you're welcome, im glad it did ^^
TERA PC - General Discussion#48 Kacky10/19/2018, 03:10 AM
Catservant wrote: »
A little confused about the problem here. I am currently using mouse 3, I just bound it to one of the shortcut tray slots using the directions mentioned before.

I also have shift-mouse 3 and control-mouse 3, all in my regular shortcut trays. Something I never thought to use before. The only thing that really changed was where the cooldown is displayed. Is that the problem?

You sound like you're fine, so don't worry about it.
TERA PC - General Discussion#49 Neilas10/19/2018, 03:16 AM
Just mod it back you donut
TERA PC - General Discussion#50 Kacky10/21/2018, 06:32 AM
Since there is a solution to (sort of) get the "Main 3" back, I have another issue.

I use the numbered trays in the main skillbar. Tray 1 for solo, Tray 2 for parties, and so on. Before this UI change, I would cycle through the trays, and the Main 1, Main 2, and Main 3 skills would also cycle. For instance, on my healer, my Main skills would be offensive-based on Tray 1 because that was my solo tray. On Tray 2, my Main skills would be mostly heal-based because that would be the tray I switched to when I am in a party.

How can I get the new "Main 3" to change to different skills like the Main 1 and Main 2 skills do?

Also, in the Shortcuts tab of the Options menu, it says that you can use "Alt + [number]" to cycle to the other trays, up to 10. That's not really working. I can cycle up to Tray 3 only. If I try to go to Tray 5, pressing "Alt + 5" doesn't work. Using the arrows on the main skill bar will cycle up to Tray 3.

Why are there shortcuts to go to Tray 4-10 if these trays do not exist?
TERA PC - General Discussion#51 Nopi10/21/2018, 11:43 AM
Kacky wrote: »
Since there is a solution to (sort of) get the "Main 3" back, I have another issue.

I use the numbered trays in the main skillbar. Tray 1 for solo, Tray 2 for parties, and so on. Before this UI change, I would cycle through the trays, and the Main 1, Main 2, and Main 3 skills would also cycle. For instance, on my healer, my Main skills would be offensive-based on Tray 1 because that was my solo tray. On Tray 2, my Main skills would be mostly heal-based because that would be the tray I switched to when I am in a party.

How can I get the new "Main 3" to change to different skills like the Main 1 and Main 2 skills do?

Also, in the Shortcuts tab of the Options menu, it says that you can use "Alt + [number]" to cycle to the other trays, up to 10. That's not really working. I can cycle up to Tray 3 only. If I try to go to Tray 5, pressing "Alt + 5" doesn't work. Using the arrows on the main skill bar will cycle up to Tray 3.

Why are there shortcuts to go to Tray 4-10 if these trays do not exist?

Probably remnants from the old builds. I mean, you can still buy tier 11 feedstock even if you can't do anything with it... not even dismantle it. Either that or the guy who did the trays isn't the same guy who did the options screen.
Ya. Controller user here. No 'main 3' is gonna mess me up. Is there a way to recreate the 'main 3' skill bind to have it connected with my right trigger?

I manged to do so with JoyToKey. Set any alternate bar slot to the C key. Place your old C skill there. Then in JoyToKey, set the button on the controller to act as C key. In tera, release the Main 3 Button in the controller window so it doesn't point anywhere else. Should be able to use your old C skill with the same controller button as before. Down side, is you loose the skill preview in the controller window, it goes to the alternate bar where you placed the skill.

Still boring. I wish they could make the Main 3 slot again.
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