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TERA PC - General Discussion: Leaderboard Sniping, It's Allowed I Guess?
First off I'll start with this clip:
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof

After claiming that action will be taken against leaderboard sniping, I have some thoughts/observations:
• 5+ tickets were sent in and they all received the same cookiecutter response.
• Some players transferred with the intention of sniping ranks just to test if EME would do something about it
• 40+ Players transferred (mainly MT to elsewhere) to snipe ranks.
• Players who deserved titles, masks, and recognition did not get them
• The players who wrongfully got titles, masks, and recognition, will they even lose them if they get banned now? Will the proper players get their rewards?
• Opening free transfers without well defined rule on what is the gray area of "leaderboard sniping" is, was a misplay

I feel like a broken record, but one thing after another, failure after failure, when will the community feel good about this game again? What can be done?
ZingoPingo wrote: »
I feel like a broken record, but one thing after another, failure after failure, when will the community feel good about this game again? What can be done?

You already know the answers to both of those questions.
>be me
>play 200+ games of fwc in a season
>work hard to get to a good position
>finally satisfied with the rank on the ''final day''
>date showed on leaderboard is wrong
>ok lets wait a few more days without playing to not risk losing rating
>day 1: rank 1
>day 2: rank 3
>day 3: rank 8
>check who ''placed higher than me in the past 3 days''
>''nippleclam131543523'' ''retard4235346'' ''warri12312535'' ''name12412523'' ''othername1241235''
>send in tickets reporting the sniping like EME told me to do
>Greetings, Medicinewastaken.
Thank you for reporting this possible ill-mannered behavior in-game. We will investigate this matter and take appropriate action if necessary.
Thank you for your cooperation.
>This ticket is closed, you may reopen it.
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
>nothing happens
We've had 8 big failures from EME this month. We are only 2 weeks in lol...

I doubt they will do anything about it. I've sent in so many reports of people exploiting but EME never does anything. They are understaffed and don't know whats actually happening in the evidence you provide. Sent a video of someone quite clearly using proxy once and EME didn't even know what the person was doing wrong in the video.
I'm hoping Gameforge sues EME for defamation so they know how it feels to get [filtered].
TERA PC - General Discussion#6 Khernz09/14/2018, 03:50 PM
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

get off your complacent mediocre [filtered] and strive for a score on your own server instead of transferring to get a higher rank to inflate your [filtered] [filtered] ego how about that
Kirasaka wrote: »
We've had 8 big failures from EME this month. We are only 2 weeks in lol...

I doubt they will do anything about it. I've sent in so many reports of people exploiting but EME never does anything. They are understaffed and don't know whats actually happening in the evidence you provide. Sent a video of someone quite clearly using proxy once and EME didn't even know what the person was doing wrong in the video.

I'm not sure how many more failures we need to recognize the problem... the gameplay is great (minus the BHS optimization...,) but the EME implementation is terrible.

- FIHM blatant delays/lies during Starfall patch?
- Constantly told talents are too hard to implement for years and years and then suddenly they are coming?
- Dragons would be obtainable in game, then lied about it, then gave us the cash shop only (then removed basically any way to get them until flying missions were added?)
- Told that double vanguards couldn't be a permanent option but that the new double/triple would equal that, and we have them like once per 10 weeks?
- Constant route switching between Savvis and Zayo despite player concerns?
- Had the report player option totally gutted so that the in-game option doesn 't even work?
- They added 6 new customer support staff with GM @Araya , but within ~6 months stopped any and all transfer of soulbound items if you changed races/gender?
- We would get shop updates within 3 months (Federation Bills, Fashion Coupons, Ace Dungeon, Reward Points, VG Merchant...) and still don't have them? They even removed skins that were already there...
- They would stop gold bots, and a certain 3rd party program, yet they forced a rootkit on us that we don't want, and even when we accepted that premise... the rootkit doesn't even stop what it is supposed to stop?
- The removal of roadmap? ("We'll bring it back... we promise.") Not back.
- The removal of server status? ("We'll bring it back... we promise.") Not back, and a player made an alternative that we have to use.
- The inability to have a single platform that they respond on? ("We have official forums but the best way to get ahold of us on Discord or Twitter...

- This doesn't even count the issues that Console players have and continue to have... they are too numerous to list.

I'm not sure how many failures there can be. If I could give @counterpoint a giant hug for the sheer amount of supporting EME that he has done I would. And we all really appreciate it. He really thinks that they can make this work.

But it can't. It will never work. It's just lie after lie after lie. At some point you just have to realize it is an abusive relationship, (and yea I've been in one of those....) so yea.

I've said so many times over and over that we just want to PLAY THEIR GAME, AND GIVE THEM OUR MONEY, but they just don't want to let us do that.
TERA PC - General Discussion#9 Khernz09/14/2018, 04:25 PM
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

get off your complacent mediocre [filtered] and strive for a score on your own server instead of transferring to get a higher rank to inflate your [filtered] [filtered] ego how about that

I find it pitiful you think I'm one of the people transferring to get ranks when MT has the highest scores across the servers. Regardless, only one's ego that should be checked are the [filtered] players crying about their beaten scores. Don't let your insecurities show.
TERA PC - General Discussion#10 YUMEKA09/14/2018, 04:28 PM
Again, it is EME's fault, not the players. How can you justify these players transferring to a different server just for sniping? Do you have any proof? Leaderboard rating is just a by product of transferring. The point I am trying to make is that it is entirely EME's fault for opening free transfer and allowing things such as bg ratings to stay.
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

get off your complacent mediocre [filtered] and strive for a score on your own server instead of transferring to get a higher rank to inflate your [filtered] [filtered] ego how about that

I find it pitiful you think I'm one of the people transferring to get ranks when MT has the highest scores across the servers. Regardless, only one's ego that should be checked are the [filtered] players crying about their beaten scores. Don't let your insecurities show.

do you read what you type
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?
TERA PC - General Discussion#13 Khernz09/14/2018, 04:32 PM
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

get off your complacent mediocre [filtered] and strive for a score on your own server instead of transferring to get a higher rank to inflate your [filtered] [filtered] ego how about that

I find it pitiful you think I'm one of the people transferring to get ranks when MT has the highest scores across the servers. Regardless, only one's ego that should be checked are the [filtered] players crying about their beaten scores. Don't let your insecurities show.

do you read what you type

Do you think before you type. Go justify people getting their scores beat and how they deserve their ranks still. That's why you're here right.
TERA PC - General Discussion#14 YUMEKA09/14/2018, 04:36 PM
Again, why are you all fighting each other when it is clearly EME's fault
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

get off your complacent mediocre [filtered] and strive for a score on your own server instead of transferring to get a higher rank to inflate your [filtered] [filtered] ego how about that

I find it pitiful you think I'm one of the people transferring to get ranks when MT has the highest scores across the servers. Regardless, only one's ego that should be checked are the [filtered] players crying about their beaten scores. Don't let your insecurities show.

do you read what you type

Do you think before you type. Go justify people getting their scores beat and how they deserve their ranks still. That's why you're here right.

you're supporting rank sniping my guy, you're a total [filtered] [filtered]
TERA PC - General Discussion#16 Khernz09/14/2018, 04:38 PM
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.
TERA PC - General Discussion#17 Khernz09/14/2018, 04:40 PM
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

get off your complacent mediocre [filtered] and strive for a score on your own server instead of transferring to get a higher rank to inflate your [filtered] [filtered] ego how about that

I find it pitiful you think I'm one of the people transferring to get ranks when MT has the highest scores across the servers. Regardless, only one's ego that should be checked are the [filtered] players crying about their beaten scores. Don't let your insecurities show.

do you read what you type

Do you think before you type. Go justify people getting their scores beat and how they deserve their ranks still. That's why you're here right.

you're supporting rank sniping my guy, you're a total [filtered] [filtered]

You're starting your shallow argument as if rank sniping is objectively wrong to do. I've already provided enough explanation on why it's fair game. You on the otherhand, nothing.
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

you're the joke here
TERA PC - General Discussion#19 Khernz09/14/2018, 04:42 PM
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

you're the joke here

Did you get your rank "stolen" from you :(
TERA PC - General Discussion#20 Kirasaka09/14/2018, 04:44 PM
Just ignore him he is trying to derail the thread. Probably because he is one of the people that does this and doesn't want people to get what they earned.
TERA PC - General Discussion#21 Piltover09/14/2018, 04:45 PM
the sheer amount of people who xferred to save names or sort out other errands probably had a high rating as a biproduct. Unlucky but considering we cant prove the intent of these xfers with everything going on right now in terms of server merge prep i doubt any action is going to be taken.

p.s im sure there would be more community outrage from a player getting banned trying to save a name who just happened to have rank 1 then some dude who ended the season on 1150 rating losing a shiny title
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

get off your complacent mediocre [filtered] and strive for a score on your own server instead of transferring to get a higher rank to inflate your [filtered] [filtered] ego how about that

I find it pitiful you think I'm one of the people transferring to get ranks when MT has the highest scores across the servers. Regardless, only one's ego that should be checked are the [filtered] players crying about their beaten scores. Don't let your insecurities show.

do you read what you type

Do you think before you type. Go justify people getting their scores beat and how they deserve their ranks still. That's why you're here right.

you're supporting rank sniping my guy, you're a total [filtered] [filtered]

You're starting your shallow argument as if rank sniping is objectively wrong to do. I've already provided enough explanation on why it's fair game. You on the otherhand, nothing.

https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
have you even read Zings post? EME clearly said it is considered a reportable offense, you're acting like i need to argument against rank sniping when it is already officially not acceptable. you lost buddy. actually you werent even in the game to begin with. have a good day :)
TERA PC - General Discussion#23 Khernz09/14/2018, 04:48 PM
Kirasaka wrote: »
Just ignore him he is trying to derail the thread. Probably because he is one of the people that does this and doesn't want people to get what they earned.

Yea give them what they rightfully earned with their sub 1100 rating, 15min aahm and floor4 dreadspire.
TERA PC - General Discussion#24 Khernz09/14/2018, 04:52 PM
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

get off your complacent mediocre [filtered] and strive for a score on your own server instead of transferring to get a higher rank to inflate your [filtered] [filtered] ego how about that

I find it pitiful you think I'm one of the people transferring to get ranks when MT has the highest scores across the servers. Regardless, only one's ego that should be checked are the [filtered] players crying about their beaten scores. Don't let your insecurities show.

do you read what you type

Do you think before you type. Go justify people getting their scores beat and how they deserve their ranks still. That's why you're here right.

you're supporting rank sniping my guy, you're a total [filtered] [filtered]

You're starting your shallow argument as if rank sniping is objectively wrong to do. I've already provided enough explanation on why it's fair game. You on the otherhand, nothing.

https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
have you even read Zings post? EME clearly said it is considered a reportable offense, you're acting like i need to argument against rank sniping when it is already officially not acceptable. you lost buddy. actually you werent even in the game to begin with. have a good day :)

>no one is banned.
>[filtered] players got beaten and ranks stolen
>still trying to justify [filtered] players "deserving" anything.
Not sure if you really win here.
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.
The leaderboards are for each server, they got the highest rank on that server. Just because other servers have better times/scores does not mean that the players on AV, CH, FF etc should not be allowed to have rewards. They got the highest rank on their server, people deliberately trying to steal ranks by abusing the free transfers are going to get banned eventually, it takes EME a few days to actually investigate but they do get banned.

TERA PC - General Discussion#27 Berogi09/14/2018, 05:02 PM
This guy won't give up, I'll give him that.
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TERA PC - General Discussion#28 Khernz09/14/2018, 05:07 PM
AEA6F9T94T wrote: »
The leaderboards are for each server, they got the highest rank on that server. Just because other servers have better times/scores does not mean that the players on AV, CH, FF etc should not be allowed to have rewards. They got the highest rank on their server, people deliberately trying to steal ranks by abusing the free transfers are going to get banned eventually, it takes EME a few days to actually investigate but they do get banned.

Oh so your issue is that transfers are free? So you're okay with people who would have more than likely transferred regardless of free transfers to snipe the ranks.
You keep reiterating "highest rank on that server" but as far as I can see, people that beat the score clearly are highest rank on that server.
TERA PC - General Discussion#29 Khernz09/14/2018, 05:09 PM
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.
TERA PC - General Discussion#30 YUMEKA09/14/2018, 05:09 PM
Piltover wrote: »
the sheer amount of people who xferred to save names or sort out other errands probably had a high rating as a biproduct. Unlucky but considering we cant prove the intent of these xfers with everything going on right now in terms of server merge prep i doubt any action is going to be taken.

p.s im sure there would be more community outrage from a player getting banned trying to save a name who just happened to have rank 1 then some dude who ended the season on 1150 rating losing a shiny title

@Medicinewastaken @Khernz stop and read.
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YUMEKA wrote: »
Again, why are you all fighting each other when it is clearly EME's fault

Exactly, it is not players fault, it is a game desing that was implemented wrong or that doesnt have ways to prevent this from happening. That means it is a problem that BHS and EME should work to fix.

It is like feeder towers on CU getting ranked, even if that guild had 0 kills, 0 towers, even no deaths because they had 0 players doing CU but as those towers lived more time that towers from legit guilds trying to rank they end up stealing ranks.

I even remember someone saying on another person post about that with a reply like "survival of the fitest" or something like that, meaning that they are ok with the exploits because those exploits favors them in some way. I wonder if those people think a like in this matter.
TERA PC - General Discussion#32 Piltover09/14/2018, 05:22 PM
none of this would be an issue if indivudual rankkngs reset when you xfer server, just a thought
Just a side note, moving forward we only have two servers so there won't be any more leaderboard sniping.
TERA PC - General Discussion#34 Khernz09/14/2018, 05:28 PM
Piltover wrote: »
none of this would be an issue if indivudual rankkngs reset when you xfer server, just a thought

not really. people still do it for pve even when their times reset too. Not hard. would solve pvp scores only.
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.
TERA PC - General Discussion#36 voidy09/14/2018, 05:41 PM
Could've been fixed by simply barring transfers from participating until the next season.

It's bad enough that EME can't even end the season on the day they say it will end in game two seasons in a row now, but to have your rank sniped on an extended day that should never have been a thing in the first place, it's no wonder that other guy quit. By the own game's account, he had already won. The season was over. But nope, EME still can't end a season without a maintenance for some reason, so we get all kinds of nonsense like people who should have already lost figuring out that they have 3 more surprise days left and then transferring to another server to carry their pvp rank over at the last possible minute, when nobody's queuing BGs for fear of losing their rank. You can't compete with that. You literally can't, when there's no one queuing. It's almost as bad as people transferring to a dead server that can barely get an AAHM lfg going, and then cross queuing AAHM with their geared static from another server. By virtue of being on a living server, you get more runs, more gear, and more practice; now you want to use those resources to compete against people who were afforded none of those things. You're like a heavyweight fighting in a lower weight bracket. It's scummy. But it's also allowed because the people running the show don't play the game or follow through on leaderboard feedback, so there's no point wasting time complaining about it.
>work hard to get to a good position
>finally satisfied and happy with my rank on the ''final day''
>date showed on leaderboard is wrong [...]

You're not alone here at all. On the previous season, they extended it a whopping 5 days with no notice whatsoever. My PvE rank was passed on the final extended night before reset, when it was too late to even get a group together to pass it. I didn't bother with that buIIshit this season; if you guys can't even follow an in-game date, then why bother investing time and energy into it again? Felt stupid for even playing the game. I spent time doing other things while lurking around to see how they handled it this season and sure enough, here we are again, with another extended leaderboards season. I have less of a problem with sniping and more of an issue with having a winning score by the end-date, and getting it passed solely because the competition got extended due to incompetence.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
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YUMEKA wrote: »
Again, why are you all fighting each other when it is clearly EME's fault
It is like feeder towers on CU getting ranked, even if that guild had 0 kills, 0 towers, even no deaths because they had 0 players doing CU but as those towers lived more time that towers from legit guilds trying to rank they end up stealing ranks.

I even remember someone saying on another person post about that with a reply like "survival of the fitest" or something like that, meaning that they are ok with the exploits because those exploits favors them in some way. I wonder if those people think a like in this matter.
Only post I'm gonna say about this because you're obsessed with that "survival of the fittest" quote. (second or third time this year you've brought it up)

Comparing a fod tower winning CU because it got lucky versus someone actively exploiting server transfers against what the GM literally said on stream NOT TO DO, has no relation.

TERA PC - General Discussion#38 Khernz09/14/2018, 05:54 PM
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.
ZingoPingo wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
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YUMEKA wrote: »
Again, why are you all fighting each other when it is clearly EME's fault
It is like feeder towers on CU getting ranked, even if that guild had 0 kills, 0 towers, even no deaths because they had 0 players doing CU but as those towers lived more time that towers from legit guilds trying to rank they end up stealing ranks.

I even remember someone saying on another person post about that with a reply like "survival of the fitest" or something like that, meaning that they are ok with the exploits because those exploits favors them in some way. I wonder if those people think a like in this matter.
Only post I'm gonna say about this because you're obsessed with that "survival of the fittest" quote. (second or third time this year you've brought it up)

Comparing a fod tower winning CU because it got lucky versus someone actively exploiting server transfers against what the GM literally said on stream NOT TO DO, has no relation.

Erm, they're pointing out the hypocrisy of the statement, not agreeing with it.
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

this guy is a joke just ignore him
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.

ignoring the fact that even if you`re at 1500 with 300 games played you still can drop if you get [filtered] teams in a row. those ppl dont deserve it? they didnt put effort just cus they arent in a populated server? you're actually [filtered]
TERA PC - General Discussion#42 Khernz09/14/2018, 06:29 PM
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.

ignoring the fact that even if you`re at 1500 with 300 games played you still can drop if you get [filtered] teams in a row. those ppl dont deserve it? they didnt put effort just cus they arent in a populated server? you're actually [filtered]

Comparatively less effort than those that beat you, or if less effort, then more efficient work. They beat you, the end. You lost. Stop crying over something people beat you on. Leaderboards are not a charity. You don't get browny points for just trying. Beat it or get pushed down a rank.
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.

ignoring the fact that even if you`re at 1500 with 300 games played you still can drop if you get [filtered] teams in a row. those ppl dont deserve it? they didnt put effort just cus they arent in a populated server? you're actually [filtered]

Comparatively less effort than those that beat you, or if less effort, then more efficient work. They beat you, the end. You lost. Stop crying over something people beat you on. Leaderboards are not a charity. You don't get browny points for just trying. Beat it or get pushed down a rank.

and go against the rules :)
you're [filtered] and dumb
I mean... Sure it's kinda a [filtered] move, but I don't see any foul play here.

Someone came by and beat you, simple as that. I ended up losing some of my dungeon ranks, but I still held onto my first place pit time in AV.
TERA PC - General Discussion#45 xoBarb09/14/2018, 06:57 PM
ElinUsagi wrote: »
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YUMEKA wrote: »
Again, why are you all fighting each other when it is clearly EME's fault

Exactly, it is not players fault, it is a game desing that was implemented wrong or that doesnt have ways to prevent this from happening. That means it is a problem that BHS and EME should work to fix.

It is like feeder towers on CU getting ranked, even if that guild had 0 kills, 0 towers, even no deaths because they had 0 players doing CU but as those towers lived more time that towers from legit guilds trying to rank they end up stealing ranks.

I even remember someone saying on another person post about that with a reply like "survival of the fitest" or something like that, meaning that they are ok with the exploits because those exploits favors them in some way. I wonder if those people think a like in this matter.

You seem to of missed this,
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof

- 'Feeder Towers' ranking in CU is not an exploit
- EME has never spoken out about 'Feeder Towers'


- https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
- Sniping ranks is punishable
- EME urges community to submit reports
- Players snipe ranks just to see if EME would do anything
- Players report said players
- Nothing happens

Not seeing the connection you're trying to make @ElinUsagi




Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.

So if I abuse a feature that somehow allows me to "beat" whatever rank you have despite technically not working for it, you wouldn't have a problem with that?
they should just have removed infinity masks from bg leaderboards just like they did with petrax leaderboards last season.
@KitTeaCup and @CobaltDragon
Directed at you guys, you're the ones in the clip.

Any follow up? People that sniped ranks got rewards.
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
TERA PC - General Discussion#49 Khernz09/14/2018, 09:52 PM
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.

So if I abuse a feature that somehow allows me to "beat" whatever rank you have despite technically not working for it, you wouldn't have a problem with that?

Yea I'm sure you and the lot here would love to attribute your losses to illegitimate means and compare transferring then beating the score with an actual exploit.
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.

So if I abuse a feature that somehow allows me to "beat" whatever rank you have despite technically not working for it, you wouldn't have a problem with that?

Yea I'm sure you and the lot here would love to attribute your losses to illegitimate means and compare transferring then beating the score with an actual exploit.

Not work for it? Explain 1 example where the person in question got their ranks thanks to NOT getting the highest rating or fastest clear time.

...Huh?

You know what? Never mind. I'm done with this topic, and your latest string of words was so confusing I'm legit at a loss for words. Good luck, and may the Force be with you.
For everyone saying "lol but I'm higher when I transferred I deserve it", feel free to look back on what happened in Dreadspire 2, where the second place finishers transferred to other servers to get the title and achievement for "first clear" upon logging in, and an outrage was had and they were promptly stripped of their rewards.

Just because you're higher than them on your own server doesn't give you the right to invade another server and steal their hard earned work.
TERA PC - General Discussion#52 Khernz09/14/2018, 10:33 PM
P3GCT3K7EE wrote: »
For everyone saying "lol but I'm higher when I transferred I deserve it", feel free to look back on what happened in Dreadspire 2, where the second place finishers transferred to other servers to get the title and achievement for "first clear" upon logging in, and an outrage was had and they were promptly stripped of their rewards.

Just because you're higher than them on your own server doesn't give you the right to invade another server and steal their hard earned work.

Hard Earned. Clearly not hard at all
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.

ignoring the fact that even if you`re at 1500 with 300 games played you still can drop if you get [filtered] teams in a row. those ppl dont deserve it? they didnt put effort just cus they arent in a populated server? you're actually [filtered]

Comparatively less effort than those that beat you, or if less effort, then more efficient work. They beat you, the end. You lost. Stop crying over something people beat you on. Leaderboards are not a charity. You don't get browny points for just trying. Beat it or get pushed down a rank.

Actually I would say the people ranked high on their own servers comparitively put in more effort than the ones that are sniping. Most of the people being sniped are solo queue players and have to actually try, the ones sniping say "three two one queue" in voice chat and only have to really try about 1 in 10 games.
TERA PC - General Discussion#54 Khernz09/14/2018, 10:42 PM
P3GCT3K7EE wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
SageWindu wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
I find it hilarious you say they don't "deserve" ranks when they beat the previous mediocre score to get it. The only people that don't "deserve" anything are the horrible players getting placed in top ranks solely on the fact that they started on dead servers. Get off your complacent mediocre asses and strive for a score that can't be beaten on a whim, THEN maybe you deserve anything from the leaderboard. All I hear from people crying about leaderboard sniping are tears of complacent mediocre players.

So, wait a minute - it's my fault that someone else went out of their way to transfer servers and usurp a ranking I achieved through my own work and diligence, internal server population be damned? Like I think @voidy said in another thread, people were transferring over to underpopulated servers specifically because they didn't have the chops to compete in their own servers. But you have nothing to say about that? Really?

If your score is mediocre and can be beat by mediocre players from other servers that are objectively better in the context of the new server, then what is there to cry about. You lost. If your score is [filtered] and can be beat, then it's up for grabs by whoever decides to go through the effort to beat it. To say that only native mediocre players deserve the ranks is a joke. The players transferring that beat those scores deserve it just as much as the ones before and are open to getting beat by better players just the same.

So you're fine with people transferring over to other servers specifically for the purpose of sniping ranks - which, by the way, they obviously couldn't achieve on their own servers otherwise they wouldn't be doing it - but you take umbrage with the people who had their ranks sniped, again by the people who couldn't make the cut on their own servers?

That is madness, and I absolutely cannot wait to hear you justify this.

What's the difference between bad players on dead servers and slightly less bad players from competitive servers being on the dead server. Nothing. Both don't deserve any ranks objectively, but relatively speaking, the better player deserves the higher rank. And if both are on the same server regardless of their intent, better player wins.

Ask and I shall receive.

There is a difference, actually. It's that the player from the populated server went out of their way to abuse an account feature to make themselves look better.

The people who stayed on the underpopulated servers did nothing wrong except play the game at a slower pace, and you're saying they're trash because of something they couldn't control nor prevent? Again, you seem to have no problem with the players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains, but you're upset at the people calling out those players who are abusing system mechanics for their own wanton gains. Do you really not see the issue there?

I hate to say things like this on a public forum, but attitudes like yours are why the community is as fractured as it is.

They lost. Their score was [filtered] so it was beat. I have nothing against people being bad. But don't come crying for rewards when you didn't put in enough effort and got beaten by better players.

ignoring the fact that even if you`re at 1500 with 300 games played you still can drop if you get [filtered] teams in a row. those ppl dont deserve it? they didnt put effort just cus they arent in a populated server? you're actually [filtered]

Comparatively less effort than those that beat you, or if less effort, then more efficient work. They beat you, the end. You lost. Stop crying over something people beat you on. Leaderboards are not a charity. You don't get browny points for just trying. Beat it or get pushed down a rank.

Actually I would say the people ranked high on their own servers comparitively put in more effort than the ones that are sniping. Most of the people being sniped are solo queue players and have to actually try, the ones sniping say "three two one queue" in voice chat and only have to really try about 1 in 10 games.

the fact that you even apply that as a justification for it is already a waste of time. Unless you're implying every single person who gets above 1100 are sync qing and people on dead servers somehow can't hit higher than soloqueuers from mt and it's not their fault? LOL
TERA PC - General Discussion#55 Berogi09/14/2018, 10:56 PM
Food for thought, doesn't this sound awfully similar to when people were supporting low level pking as max lvl characters :thinking:
Much fun. Very logical. Wow.
Hmm...
Would that mean that this too could be.. *gasp!* Griefing?! WHAT? Unbelievable!
TERA PC - General Discussion#56 Khernz09/14/2018, 11:02 PM
Berogi wrote: »
Food for thought, doesn't this sound awfully similar to when people were supporting low level pking as max lvl characters :thinking:
Much fun. Very logical. Wow.
Hmm...
Would that mean that this too could be.. *gasp!* Griefing?! WHAT? Unbelievable!

Yea because clearly the players on dead servers have NOTHING they can do to stop this bullying and griefing. O wait, they can just get good and beat the time. LOL. Nice attempt at an analogy.
TERA PC - General Discussion#57 Berogi09/14/2018, 11:41 PM
Khernz wrote: »
Berogi wrote: »
Food for thought, doesn't this sound awfully similar to when people were supporting low level pking as max lvl characters :thinking:
Much fun. Very logical. Wow.
Hmm...
Would that mean that this too could be.. *gasp!* Griefing?! WHAT? Unbelievable!

Yea because clearly the players on dead servers have NOTHING they can do to stop this bullying and griefing. O wait, they can just get good and beat the time. LOL. Nice attempt at an analogy.

Just win 4Head
B7bCAoS.png
TERA PC - General Discussion#58 Khernz09/15/2018, 03:10 AM
Berogi wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Berogi wrote: »
Food for thought, doesn't this sound awfully similar to when people were supporting low level pking as max lvl characters :thinking:
Much fun. Very logical. Wow.
Hmm...
Would that mean that this too could be.. *gasp!* Griefing?! WHAT? Unbelievable!

Yea because clearly the players on dead servers have NOTHING they can do to stop this bullying and griefing. O wait, they can just get good and beat the time. LOL. Nice attempt at an analogy.

Just win 4Head
B7bCAoS.png

Imagine winning
It doesn't matter if their numbers are better because 1. Their wins/losses weren't earned in that server to begin with. 2. Their numbers were earned in another server where more people were available to participate and boost said numbers. 3. They weren't winning in their own server, so they transferred to a dead server. 4. They shouldn't have kept their numbers to begin with, but because it's poorly programmed, their results are injected and they get placed. It's an exploit, pure and simple. EME has gone on record saying doing so is a bannable offense. So they might win by technical foul for now, but they'll just end up banned and you'll just look like a troll and an idiot for supporting it.
TERA PC - General Discussion#60 voidy09/15/2018, 01:25 PM
LordXenon wrote: »
It doesn't matter if their numbers are better because 1. Their wins/losses weren't earned in that server to begin with. 2. Their numbers were earned in another server where more people were available to participate and boost said numbers. 3. They weren't winning in their own server, so they transferred to a dead server. 4. They shouldn't have kept their numbers to begin with, but because it's poorly programmed, their results are injected and they get placed. It's an exploit, pure and simple. EME has gone on record saying doing so is a bannable offense. So they might win by technical foul for now, but they'll just end up banned and you'll just look like a troll and an idiot for supporting it.

I like how this is actually turning into a debate when the people in charge of the game came out on Twitch and said to report people for doing it. I guess that's what happens when rules don't get enforced.
voidy wrote: »
LordXenon wrote: »
It doesn't matter if their numbers are better because 1. Their wins/losses weren't earned in that server to begin with. 2. Their numbers were earned in another server where more people were available to participate and boost said numbers. 3. They weren't winning in their own server, so they transferred to a dead server. 4. They shouldn't have kept their numbers to begin with, but because it's poorly programmed, their results are injected and they get placed. It's an exploit, pure and simple. EME has gone on record saying doing so is a bannable offense. So they might win by technical foul for now, but they'll just end up banned and you'll just look like a troll and an idiot for supporting it.

I like how this is actually turning into a debate when the people in charge of the game came out on Twitch and said to report people for doing it. I guess that's what happens when rules don't get enforced.

I've noticed that's become a common trend the last year or so.

> player breaks rule(s)
> other player calls out player who broke rule(s)
> other player calls out the player that was was calling out the player that broke rule(s)

Like, really? People are breaking the rules and making the game less fun for everyone and people are upset about other people getting reported for breaking the rules? How does that work?!
Why is a person not entitled to rewards on their own server when they worked hard the ENTIRE season to get those rewards in the first place? I lost a third place AAHM position (Not really anything stellar) to a guy from TR who transferred and intentionally sniped the first place position (Even took him 2 days to do it too) within the last 24 hours of the extended season.
Not gonna lie, I feel cheated. I had finally gotten into it, and 20 runs later I managed to climb to third with some sort of reward on the horizon only for it to get taken away by someone who was on the server for less than 3 days?
Even [filtered] players on far more populated servers have much more opportunity than those of us on less populated servers. Just because it takes us a little more time to make that level of progression doesn't mean we don't deserve something for our efforts. Chances are most of these guys were even carried themselves by the REAL players of their own servers who actually took the time to learn the dungeon from the start.
You can't say "Shut up and get good" in scenarios like this, we have less than these people and they just come in and take what they want because they had a greater opportunity before, WE still deserve what we managed to accomplish among our own people.
TERA PC - General Discussion#63 Khernz09/15/2018, 04:33 PM
4YEW3TFT3E wrote: »
Why is a person not entitled to rewards on their own server when they worked hard the ENTIRE season to get those rewards in the first place? I lost a third place AAHM position (Not really anything stellar) to a guy from TR who transferred and intentionally sniped the first place position (Even took him 2 days to do it too) within the last 24 hours of the extended season.
Not gonna lie, I feel cheated. I had finally gotten into it, and 20 runs later I managed to climb to third with some sort of reward on the horizon only for it to get taken away by someone who was on the server for less than 3 days?
Even [filtered] players on far more populated servers have much more opportunity than those of us on less populated servers. Just because it takes us a little more time to make that level of progression doesn't mean we don't deserve something for our efforts. Chances are most of these guys were even carried themselves by the REAL players of their own servers who actually took the time to learn the dungeon from the start.
You can't say "Shut up and get good" in scenarios like this, we have less than these people and they just come in and take what they want because they had a greater opportunity before, WE still deserve what we managed to accomplish among our own people.

Sorry You Lost.
Khernz wrote: »
Sorry You Lost.

Dude, we get it, they lost for being lower. BUT, all of you need stop derailing the main topic which is:
EME said they would ban people for it and they didn't.
Not here to argue the gray area of "is it really a bad thing".
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ZingoPingo wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Sorry You Lost.

Dude, we get it, they lost for being lower. BUT, all of you need stop derailing the main topic which is:
EME said they would ban people for it and they didn't.
Not here to argue the gray area of "is it really a bad thing".

The real question would be. Do you really prove it? Or did you complain because they beat you in ranks?

#survivalofthefittest
ElinUsagi wrote: »
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ZingoPingo wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Sorry You Lost.

Dude, we get it, they lost for being lower. BUT, all of you need stop derailing the main topic which is:
EME said they would ban people for it and they didn't.
Not here to argue the gray area of "is it really a bad thing".

The real question would be. Do you really prove it? Or did you complain because they beat you in ranks?

#survivalofthefittest

do you read what you type
TERA PC - General Discussion#67 xoBarb09/16/2018, 01:55 AM
ElinUsagi wrote: »
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ZingoPingo wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Sorry You Lost.

Dude, we get it, they lost for being lower. BUT, all of you need stop derailing the main topic which is:
EME said they would ban people for it and they didn't.
Not here to argue the gray area of "is it really a bad thing".

The real question would be. Do you really prove it? Or did you complain because they beat you in ranks?

#survivalofthefittest

I'm the one who said survival of the fittest in context of inactive guilds ranking high due to lasting longer than your 5man [filtered] guild that can't kill a tower.

If EME never reassured these players that their ranks would be safe because they would actively punish those caught transferring to snipe ranks I would be against this thread.

Butt.....
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Do you really prove it?
Pretty easy to check which people transferred and when they transferred with the rank they transferred with.
Not to mention names like the quote below started showing up with high ranks within the week of free transfers:
>''nippleclam#131543523'' ''[filtered]#4235346'' ''warri#12312535'' ''name#12412523'' ''othername#1241235''
I'm fighting for the community, stop trying to whiteknight EME like you always do. You need to realize EME claimed this:
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
And did not follow up on it. (after multiple tickets)
ZingoPingo wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Do you really prove it?
Pretty easy to check which people transferred and when they transferred with the rank they transferred with.
Not to mention names like the quote below started showing up with high ranks within the week of free transfers:
>''nippleclam#131543523'' ''[filtered]#4235346'' ''warri#12312535'' ''name#12412523'' ''othername#1241235''
I'm fighting for the community, stop trying to whiteknight EME like you always do.
You need to realize EME claimed this:
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
And did not follow up on it. (after multiple tickets)

I am not defending EME, I made a question.

Did you prove they transfered to steal ranks?

And if anything, EME is the one at fault here to even make it the perfect excuse for those people with the timing on the free server transfers and the date of the server merge.
TERA PC - General Discussion#70 xoBarb09/16/2018, 03:44 AM
ElinUsagi wrote: »
ZingoPingo wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Do you really prove it?
Pretty easy to check which people transferred and when they transferred with the rank they transferred with.
Not to mention names like the quote below started showing up with high ranks within the week of free transfers:
>''nippleclam#131543523'' ''[filtered]#4235346'' ''warri#12312535'' ''name#12412523'' ''othername#1241235''
I'm fighting for the community, stop trying to whiteknight EME like you always do.
You need to realize EME claimed this:
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
And did not follow up on it. (after multiple tickets)

I am not defending EME, I made a question.

Did you prove they transfered to steal ranks?

And if anything, EME is the one at fault here to even make it the perfect excuse for those people with the timing on the free server transfers and the date of the server merge.
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
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ZingoPingo wrote: »
Khernz wrote: »
Sorry You Lost.

Dude, we get it, they lost for being lower. BUT, all of you need stop derailing the main topic which is:
EME said they would ban people for it and they didn't.
Not here to argue the gray area of "is it really a bad thing".

The real question would be. Do you really prove it? Or did you complain because they beat you in ranks?

#survivalofthefittest

I'm the one who said survival of the fittest in context of inactive guilds ranking high due to lasting longer than your 5man E R P guild that can't kill a tower.

If EME never reassured these players that their ranks would be safe because they would actively punish those caught transferring to snipe ranks I would be against this thread.

But.....
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof

I was not the one complaining in that thread and not in this thread either but it is amuzing how some people that are ok with some way to abuse the system when it benefits them and the same people are not ok when with other kind of abuse of the system doesnt benefit them.

That is simple and a hipocrital way to act. "doing it for the comunity" nah you are doing this because you or your friends got owned by other people better than you.

#survivalofthefittest
xoBarb wrote: »
You seem to have missed this,
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof

- 'Feeder Towers' ranking in CU is not an exploit
- EME has never spoken out about 'Feeder Towers'


- https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
- Sniping ranks is punishable
- EME urges community to submit reports
- Players snipe ranks just to see if EME would do anything
- Players report said players
- Nothing happens

Not seeing the connection you're trying to make @ElinUsagi


If the straw you're trying to grasp to tie CU and rank sniping together is solely based off you thinking I got affected by this whole ordeal you're extremely misinformed.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Did you prove they transfered to steal ranks?
You're derailing my thread asking me questions as if I work for EME. Specific people were reported, if you wish to see the tickets feel free to DM me on discord: Zing#1752
I'm not sure why you're so up my [filtered] on this. It's not my job to check the reported players.
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
I was not the one complaining in that thread and not in this thread either but it is amuzing how some people that are ok with some way to abuse the system when it benefits them and the same people are not ok when with other kind of abuse of the system doesnt benefit them.

That is simple and a hipocrital way to act. "doing it for the comunity" nah you are doing this because you or your friends got owned by other people better than you.

#survivalofthefittest
xoBarb wrote: »
You seem to have missed this,
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof

- 'Feeder Towers' ranking in CU is not an exploit
- EME has never spoken out about 'Feeder Towers'


- https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof
- Sniping ranks is punishable
- EME urges community to submit reports
- Players snipe ranks just to see if EME would do anything
- Players report said players
- Nothing happens

Not seeing the connection you're trying to make @ElinUsagi

If the straw you're trying to grasp to tie CU and rank sniping together is solely based off you thinking I got affected by this whole ordeal you're extremely misinformed.

And you seem to be missing the huge mistake from EME in all this, the free transfer, the server merge, people losing characters if they dont transfer.

You already made the tickets and now its EME job to look at those character accounts and see if they dont have any justification to be transfered. However as EME didnt give a solution for those who had more characters than a server allows it would be unfair to get banned because something EME did wrong.

So I will repeat again, did you prove that they transfered to snipe tittles? or you are only salty because you are not that good?
TERA PC - General Discussion#73 xoBarb09/16/2018, 04:00 AM
ElinUsagi wrote: »

And you seem to be missing the huge mistake from EME in all this, the free transfer, the server merge, people losing characters if they dont transfer and even posible loss on cash shop items.

You already made the tickets and now its EME job to look at those character accounts and see if they dont have any justification to be transfered. However as EME didnt give a solution for those who had more characters than a server allows it would be unfair to get banned because something EME did wrong.

So I will repeat again, did you prove that they transfered to snipe tittles? or you are only salty because you are not that good?

I never made a ticket, My posts in this thread have been to openly debunk your obsession with my feats in CU.

I never made a ticket since I'm not active ingame - But yes those who submitted a ticket included SS's of in-game admittance from players who took advantage of server transferring to snipe ranks.

Also there were players who transferred to snipe ranks for the sole purpose of seeing if EME would do anything.
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »

And you seem to be missing the huge mistake from EME in all this, the free transfer, the server merge, people losing characters if they dont transfer and even posible loss on cash shop items.

You already made the tickets and now its EME job to look at those character accounts and see if they dont have any justification to be transfered. However as EME didnt give a solution for those who had more characters than a server allows it would be unfair to get banned because something EME did wrong.

So I will repeat again, did you prove that they transfered to snipe tittles? or you are only salty because you are not that good?

I never made a ticket, My posts in this thread have been to openly debunk your obsession with my feats in CU.

I never made a ticket since I'm not active ingame - But yes those who submitted a ticket included SS's of in-game admittance from players who took advantage of server transferring to snipe ranks.

Also there were players who transferred to snipe ranks for the sole purpose of seeing if EME would do anything.

Then we are talking of double offense here from those players but the issue at hand would be if it is truth and not screenshot edits.

Now, all this mess is because a really bad server merge and free transfers scheduled by EME.

If your proof is legit then yes, they should be banned as EME has stated but that will be for EME to decide, they should have the chat logs from those players and if what your friend claim is truth I don't see a reason EME should not ban them.
TERA PC - General Discussion#75 xoBarb09/16/2018, 04:43 AM
ElinUsagi wrote: »
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »

And you seem to be missing the huge mistake from EME in all this, the free transfer, the server merge, people losing characters if they dont transfer and even posible loss on cash shop items.

You already made the tickets and now its EME job to look at those character accounts and see if they dont have any justification to be transfered. However as EME didnt give a solution for those who had more characters than a server allows it would be unfair to get banned because something EME did wrong.

So I will repeat again, did you prove that they transfered to snipe tittles? or you are only salty because you are not that good?

I never made a ticket, My posts in this thread have been to openly debunk your obsession with my feats in CU.

I never made a ticket since I'm not active ingame - But yes those who submitted a ticket included SS's of in-game admittance from players who took advantage of server transferring to snipe ranks.

Also there were players who transferred to snipe ranks for the sole purpose of seeing if EME would do anything.

Then we are talking of double offense here from those players but the issue at hand would be if it is truth and not screenshot edits.

Now, all this mess is because a really bad server merge and free transfers scheduled by EME.

If your proof is legit then yes, they should be banned as EME has stated but that will be for EME to decide, they should have the chat logs from those players and if what your friend claim is truth I don't see a reason EME should not ban them.

EME can see the logs of ingame messages so this is entirely on them (as usual).

Players worked together and supplied ample evidence of themselves admitting they transferred solely to rank snipe and EME has done nothing.

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xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »

And you seem to be missing the huge mistake from EME in all this, the free transfer, the server merge, people losing characters if they dont transfer and even posible loss on cash shop items.

You already made the tickets and now its EME job to look at those character accounts and see if they dont have any justification to be transfered. However as EME didnt give a solution for those who had more characters than a server allows it would be unfair to get banned because something EME did wrong.

So I will repeat again, did you prove that they transfered to snipe tittles? or you are only salty because you are not that good?

I never made a ticket, My posts in this thread have been to openly debunk your obsession with my feats in CU.

I never made a ticket since I'm not active ingame - But yes those who submitted a ticket included SS's of in-game admittance from players who took advantage of server transferring to snipe ranks.

Also there were players who transferred to snipe ranks for the sole purpose of seeing if EME would do anything.

Then we are talking of double offense here from those players but the issue at hand would be if it is truth and not screenshot edits.

Now, all this mess is because a really bad server merge and free transfers scheduled by EME.

If your proof is legit then yes, they should be banned as EME has stated but that will be for EME to decide, they should have the chat logs from those players and if what your friend claim is truth I don't see a reason EME should not ban them.

EME can see the logs of ingame messages so this is entirely on them (as usual).

Players worked together and supplied ample evidence of themselves admitting they transferred solely to rank snipe and EME has done nothing.

Well, I know several players that were with you on MT and they like to spread lies about others. I would question if this is not another lie from them as they are used to be. I know your guild went from MT to another server many months ago and if these are the same people then I will higly doubt about their claims.
TERA PC - General Discussion#77 xoBarb09/16/2018, 05:51 AM
ElinUsagi wrote: »

Well, I know several players that were with you on MT and they like to spread lies about others. I would question if this is not another lie from them as they are used to be. I know your guild went from MT to another server many months ago and if these are the same people then I will higly doubt about their claims.

The only thing I'm claiming is EME can see message logs.

We created our own experiment which I'll explain very easily for you

Player X has 1400 on his home Server 1
Player Z has 1350 on his home Server 2

https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof

Player X transfers to Server 2 to snipe rank 1
Player Z is no longer rank 1
Player X is friend's with Player Z and informs him he's doing this to prove a point
Player X admits in-game that he transferred to snipe ranks
Player Z submits a report to EME
Nothing happens....
This thread is made.


This thread isn't made to slander the 6th string MT rejects who are taking full advantage of the only shot they'll have at getting a title from PVP.

It's made to highlight another case of EME's incompetence.


xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »

Well, I know several players that were with you on MT and they like to spread lies about others. I would question if this is not another lie from them as they are used to be. I know your guild went from MT to another server many months ago and if these are the same people then I will higly doubt about their claims.

The only thing I'm claiming is EME can see message logs.

We created our own experiment which I'll explain very easily for you

Player X has 1400 on his home Server 1
Player Z has 1350 on his home Server 2

https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof

Player X transfers to Server 2 to snipe rank 1
Player Z is no longer rank 1
Player X is friend's with Player Z and informs him he's doing this to prove a point
Player X admits in-game that he transferred to snipe ranks
Player Z submits a report to EME
Nothing happens....
This thread is made.


This thread isn't made to slander the 6th string MT rejects who are taking full advantage of their only shot at getting a title from PVP.

It's made to highlight another case of EME's incompetence.


As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.
TERA PC - General Discussion#79 xoBarb09/16/2018, 07:55 PM
ElinUsagi wrote: »

As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.

And now this is more interesting, you are saying that the same people that made the tickets to report people sniping ranks are in league with those and you actually are saying "We created our own experiment", so you are the culprit and the one reporting at the same time... So, are you asking for a ban to you, zingo and everyone involved in your experiment? Because here you are confesing on forums.

You're a brick.

I don't need to lie to make EME look incompetent.

I did not snipe any ranks so why would I be banned? Why would Zingo be banned?
ElinUsagi wrote: »

As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.

Countless time you've insisted on trying to narrate my guilds history on MT to myself or Zing so please post some relevant evidence of proof if this is the only thing you have to discredit the reports that have been submitted and this thread.
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »

As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.

And now this is more interesting, you are saying that the same people that made the tickets to report people sniping ranks are in league with those and you actually are saying "We created our own experiment", so you are the culprit and the one reporting at the same time... So, are you asking for a ban to you, zingo and everyone involved in your experiment? Because here you are confesing on forums.

You're a brick.

I don't need to lie to make EME look incompetent.

I did not snipe any ranks so why would I be banned? Why would Zingo be banned?
ElinUsagi wrote: »

As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.

Countless time you've insisted on trying to narrate my guilds history on MT to myself or Zing so please post some relevant evidence if this is the only thing you have to discredit the reports that have been submitted and this thread.

Hope your experiment gives you what you ask then and get you banned and all those involved as you already said you and your friends are the masterminds on that tittle sniping (not like is going to happen). You already said that a couple of posts above.

Ty for showing us that you didnt do that for the comunity but only as a way to amuse yourselves.
TERA PC - General Discussion#81 xoBarb09/16/2018, 10:15 PM
ElinUsagi wrote: »
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »

As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.

And now this is more interesting, you are saying that the same people that made the tickets to report people sniping ranks are in league with those and you actually are saying "We created our own experiment", so you are the culprit and the one reporting at the same time... So, are you asking for a ban to you, zingo and everyone involved in your experiment? Because here you are confesing on forums.

You're a brick.

I don't need to lie to make EME look incompetent.

I did not snipe any ranks so why would I be banned? Why would Zingo be banned?
ElinUsagi wrote: »

As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.

Countless time you've insisted on trying to narrate my guilds history on MT to myself or Zing so please post some relevant evidence if this is the only thing you have to discredit the reports that have been submitted and this thread.

Hope your experiment gives you what you ask then and get you banned and all those involved as you already said you and your friends are the masterminds on that tittle sniping (not like is going to happen). You already said that a couple of posts above.

Ty for showing us that you didnt do that for the comunity but only as a way to amuse yourselves.

You're a brick of a human and I feel sorry for your caregiver
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »

As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.

And now this is more interesting, you are saying that the same people that made the tickets to report people sniping ranks are in league with those and you actually are saying "We created our own experiment", so you are the culprit and the one reporting at the same time... So, are you asking for a ban to you, zingo and everyone involved in your experiment? Because here you are confesing on forums.

You're a brick.

I don't need to lie to make EME look incompetent.

I did not snipe any ranks so why would I be banned? Why would Zingo be banned?
ElinUsagi wrote: »

As I said before, I know people that were with you in MT spreading lies about others in Battlegrounds to convince others to kick them. How can we know you are not lying? I mean some acquantancies of you have this habit of spreading lies about others in game and on discord servers.

Countless time you've insisted on trying to narrate my guilds history on MT to myself or Zing so please post some relevant evidence if this is the only thing you have to discredit the reports that have been submitted and this thread.

Hope your experiment gives you what you ask then and get you banned and all those involved as you already said you and your friends are the masterminds on that tittle sniping (not like is going to happen). You already said that a couple of posts above.

Ty for showing us that you didnt do that for the comunity but only as a way to amuse yourselves.

You're a brick of a human and I feel sorry for your caregiver

Yeah, yeah... I am with you and your friends in this one, EME should give you what you are asking and ban you from the game, you already confesed here on forums. Good luck and hope EME hears you but I doubt that.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
EME should give you what you are asking and ban you from the game.
xoBarb wrote: »
I did not snipe any ranks so why would I be banned? Why would Zingo be banned?
He was saying we know a person who purposefully sniped leaderboards to test EME.

You'll probably say this is shopped but here's a conversation I had with a different player who purposefully xferred to test EME (and this player was reported with 0 action taken against them):
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Anyways, back to the matter at hand.
@KitTeaCup and @CobaltDragon
Any update on this?

People that sniped ranks got full rewards after multiple players reported them.
https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof


ZingoPingo wrote: »
He was saying we know a person who purposefully sniped leaderboards to test EME.
xoBarb wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »

Well, I know several players that were with you on MT and they like to spread lies about others. I would question if this is not another lie from them as they are used to be. I know your guild went from MT to another server many months ago and if these are the same people then I will higly doubt about their claims.

The only thing I'm claiming is EME can see message logs.

We created our own experiment which I'll explain very easily for you

Player X has 1400 on his home Server 1
Player Z has 1350 on his home Server 2

https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentVastBananaFloof

Player X transfers to Server 2 to snipe rank 1
Player Z is no longer rank 1
Player X is friend's with Player Z and informs him he's doing this to prove a point
Player X admits in-game that he transferred to snipe ranks
Player Z submits a report to EME
Nothing happens....
This thread is made.


This thread isn't made to slander the 6th string MT rejects who are taking full advantage of their only shot at getting a title from PVP.

It's made to highlight another case of EME's incompetence.


No he actually admited to be in league with people snipping ranks for their own amusement and to try to show if EME will ban or not that/those account(s), you can read his own post.

So I agree with you, I hope EME gives you what you ask and ban you and your friends from the game. Because you are not doing this for the comunity but rahter to make fun from EME and in the way you are stealing ranks from people at other servers only for the sake of proving your point.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
I hope EME gives you what you ask and ban you and your friends from the game.
You're thick for thinking I'll get banned for being in the same discord as people who orchestrated something to showcase EME's incompetence.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Because you are not doing this for the comunity
Then you're missing the entire point of my initial post.

Done replying to you since you seem to have some vendetta against us. Stop moving the goalposts and let's focus on the main topic at hand. Only interested in what EME has to say in response to this!


ZingoPingo wrote: »
ElinUsagi wrote: »
I hope EME gives you what you ask and ban you and your friends from the game.
You're thick for thinking I'll get banned for being in the same discord as people who orchestrated something to showcase EME's incompetence.
ElinUsagi wrote: »
Because you are not doing this for the comunity
Then you're missing the entire point of my initial post.

Done replying to you since you seem to have some vendetta against us. Stop moving the goalposts and let's focus on the main topic at hand. Only interested in what EME has to say in response to this!


Yeah, yeah... I hope "your little experiment" get you what you want.
xoBarb wrote: »
We created our own experiment which I'll explain very easily for you

This is made to highlight another case of EME's incompetence.

I wil resume all the bs with the truth words.

I hope your little experiment get the answers you are looking for and get you banned and also your friends as you are asking EME to do, something that I don't think it will happen.
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