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TERA PC - General Discussion: Petition for another i-frame (Priests)
Would be nice if Fiery Escape is an i-frame since we only have backstep as one and it has 1second i-frame. Making it hard to dodge other mechanics even when you know how to avoid it. An important class and one of the squishiest and only have 1 i-frame is dumb. Where's the love for healers? D:

P.S. pls gib iframe ;-;
Fiery Escape if used properly is a great "iframe"... i'm priest main and never had issues before.. its all about practice.
In a future update, using guardian sanctuary resets backstep cd or something like that. So soontm.
doesn't it already have a low cd though
Lynxzer wrote: »
Fiery Escape if used properly is a great "iframe"... i'm priest main and never had issues before.. its all about practice.

Fiery escape is not an i-frame, it's a movement skill. Backstep has invicibility frames in it, unlike fiery escape.
That said, all mechs should be doable with just backstep, we just need a lot of cdr and need to practice saving iframes instead of using them for dumb stuff I guess.
Priest doesn't really need an extra iframe. As a priest main I've found you can avoid 90% of boss mechanics with fiery escape and good positioning, it just takes practice.

Frankly priest with two iframes would be laughably broken and easy to play
I just thought of something: how come priests never got a teleport skill like mystics and sorcs?
Fiery escape if you use it right in time will remove need in iframe. One iframe is enough imo. Don't have any issues with this. Experience +knowledge of bosses.
TERA PC - General Discussion#9 voidy06/21/2018, 10:06 PM
Honestly if they're gonna keep coming out with [filtered] RNG dungeons that randomly target the healer with iframe-only off-targets multiple times in a row, I wouldn't mind at all if their fiery escape became an iframe. Saying this as a tank who's tired of watching priests backstep a laser at AA only to get killed by bad luck a second later when circles spawn near them, which they could've just iframed again had they been a mystic. If mystic gets 2 teleports and the ability to run around in combat, I really don't see what's """"broken"""" about making fiery escape an iframe.
voidy wrote: »
Honestly if they're gonna keep coming out with [filtered] RNG dungeons that randomly target the healer with iframe-only off-targets multiple times in a row, I wouldn't mind at all if their fiery escape became an iframe. Saying this as a tank who's tired of watching priests backstep a laser at AA only to get killed by bad luck a second later when circles spawn near them, which they could've just iframed again had they been a mystic. If mystic gets 2 teleports and the ability to run around in combat, I really don't see what's """"broken"""" about making fiery escape an iframe.

This is true, on my mystic I have an easier time escaping multiple mechs at once, which Antaroth loves to do.

Soon priests are getting the buff or w.e on guardian sanctuary, apparently it will reset iframe cd once it's used or something.

Priests are legit the only class in the game with just one iframe (archers who have the most similar movement skills had theirs turned into iframes as well) and while I personally think that with enough practice it becomes easier to maneuver around the boss and through the fight with just one iframe, there are definitely moments when I go "bulls hit".
Definitely had a few of those moments in AA. Sometimes the boss likes to target you with two secondary aggros when he clones himself, so if you're not super overgeared, au revoir! While every other class can get out of that fine...

While I do agree that the game needs to stay challenging, the problem with balancing iframes is that if you have 1 class with 1 iframe (priest) and 1 class with 5-6 iframes (warrior) one of these two is either going to have a really hard time or a really easy time. Oh well.
TERA PC - General Discussion#11 Lynxzer06/21/2018, 11:05 PM
CornishRex wrote: »
Lynxzer wrote: »
Fiery Escape if used properly is a great "iframe"... i'm priest main and never had issues before.. its all about practice.

Fiery escape is not an i-frame, it's a movement skill. Backstep has invicibility frames in it, unlike fiery escape.
That said, all mechs should be doable with just backstep, we just need a lot of cdr and need to practice saving iframes instead of using them for dumb stuff I guess.

i said "iframe" ... " " <-
TERA PC - General Discussion#12 Lynxzer06/21/2018, 11:06 PM
Priest doesn't really need an extra iframe. As a priest main I've found you can avoid 90% of boss mechanics with fiery escape and good positioning, it just takes practice.

Frankly priest with two iframes would be laughably broken and easy to play

This guy understands my point ^
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> Fiery escape is not an i-frame, it's a movement skill. Backstep has invicibility frames in it, unlike fiery escape.
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There's no "iframe" it's either a real iframe or a movement skill, no inbetweens. Theres no invincibility frames in fiery escape and thus you have to use it way early to get out of attacks and you need to outrange them too which is not how you would use backstep.
I kinda scrolled through this without reading it all so sorry if already brought up but priest will eventually be able to reset backstep cd after using gs. I was playing around with it on the Korean test server today. Not quite the same as having two iframes to use one after the other but yeah
TERA PC - General Discussion#15 voidy06/22/2018, 08:51 AM
Is the CD on GS still relatively long compared to the cooldown on backstep? Because if I recall correctly, just standing there casting GS in the first place probably takes half the time of just waiting for backstep to come off cd.

Not trying to sound like a whiny [filtered], just don't see why every other class in the game gets 2 iframes, including the other healer subtype, but priest is still stuck with one and has to jump through some dumb loop to 'reset' that one skill when there's already a version of fiery escape in the game that has the same animation and acts as an iframe that *archers* get for some reason.
TERA PC - General Discussion#16 Oreoooo06/22/2018, 07:28 PM
I haven't read about the Guardian Sanctuary thing but if it's true, I'll take it. Although giving Fiery Escape an iframe would be better and easier to do, reset on backstep is ok.

I still hope they'll have plans on doing it in the future.
Statement: You know, things like this make me glad that I decided to stack endurance instead of healing on my priest.
TERA PC - General Discussion#18 Mewtube06/22/2018, 10:50 PM
I think the only moment you need double iframe is Antaroth summons clones and does blue orb + slash attack. If you are unlucky to be targeted twice, or you are the remaining player alive, you have to iframe twice in quick succession. Other than that, all iframess should be manageable if you use it right. I think that's probably why kTera is giving priests the backstep reset in order to cope with situations like this.
TERA PC - General Discussion#19 Norafin06/22/2018, 10:59 PM
In AAN priests have to get hit by the full spin during the charged up sword mechanic.
If they iframe it, they run in danger of being laser'd right after before backstep if off cd.
In AAH the mechanic is longer and this no longer applies. Solid gameplay right there
voidy wrote: »
Because if I recall correctly, just standing there casting GS in the first place probably takes half the time of just waiting for backstep to come off cd naturally

This, exactly this.

I don't mind the 20 some off seconds cooldown on GS, because mass jaunt for a mystic is also like 30 seconds or something. But the fact that it requires you to cast another skill to reset backstep, that is just a joke.

That said, my priest doesn't need another iframe, backstep is honestly enough. I've made mistakes at Antaroth where the res bait laser targets you back to back to back to back, but all it really takes is to just get into the habit of waiting a little bit before you attempt to res again, which is great because now it gives you an excuse to top off your TN and or ES buff before ressing.
TERA PC - General Discussion#21 MForAll06/23/2018, 06:06 AM
Healers shouldn't need to wait to res someone in AAH. The fact that it targets them back to back, while Priest only have 1 iframe is literally punishing the healer for other people's mistake. Not only that, it limits Priest ability to carry below 50% because of timer. They have to wait to make sure the boss won't target them with laser, spawn puddle, or red magic, which delay their res time; hence, losing to timer. Healers should not be punished for other people's mistake. Period.
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